Spore Wuh-oh

It's not looking good for Spore, early player previews are reporting the game is great as a creature creator, but shallow in the gameplay department and only takes about "8 hours!" to get from the cell stage to the space stage.

Can you smell a flop a cookin'?

It's not looking good for Spore, early player previews are reporting the game is great as a creature creator, but shallow in the gameplay department and only takes about "8 hours!" to get from the cell stage to the space stage.

Can you smell a flop a cookin'?

double-taketake

Yeah because ill take 5 player reviews over everyone else..

wait for the game to come out, and see the majority..if the majority flops it, its a flop

8 hours to get that far? thats impressive, considering the final stage is endless ( well theres a secret ending, for getting to the centre I think ).

Also considering you probably wont only make 1 creature in your full playtime?

Did anyone expect anything different? Of course the post-Creature Game gameplay isn't going to be on par with CoH or other RTS's, and the game needs to move quickly in order to create progression (who wants to wander around as a cell for 3 hours?).

8 hours to get that far? thats impressive, considering the final stage is endless ( well theres a secret ending, for getting to the centre I think ).

Also considering you probably wont only make 1 creature in your full playtime?

PC360Wii

How does knowing that there's a secret ending before the game is even released make it a secret!?:P

It's not looking good for Spore, early player previews are reporting the game is great as a creature creator, but shallow in the gameplay department and only takes about "8 hours!" to get from the cell stage to the space stage.

Can you smell a flop a cookin'?

double-taketake

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]

8 hours to get that far? thats impressive, considering the final stage is endless ( well theres a secret ending, for getting to the centre I think ).

Also considering you probably wont only make 1 creature in your full playtime?

Technoweirdo

How does knowing that there's a secret ending before the game is even released make it a secret!?:P

Not knowing how its triggered :P ( That was an assumption by the guys that announced it ) , it could be dominated the entire galaxy which just reaks of hardcore O_O as said by them "Only the very few of the most hardcore will see this ending". :D

[QUOTE="Technoweirdo"][QUOTE="PC360Wii"]

8 hours to get that far? thats impressive, considering the final stage is endless ( well theres a secret ending, for getting to the centre I think ).

Also considering you probably wont only make 1 creature in your full playtime?

PC360Wii

How does knowing that there's a secret ending before the game is even released make it a secret!?:P

Not knowing how its triggered :P ( That was an assumption by the guys that announced it ) , it could be dominated the entire galaxy which just reaks of hardcore O_O as said by them "Only the very few of the most hardcore will see this ending". :D

Untill its posted on you tube ofcourse. :P

[QUOTE="double-taketake"]

It's not looking good for Spore, early player previews are reporting the game is great as a creature creator, but shallow in the gameplay department and only takes about "8 hours!" to get from the cell stage to the space stage.

Can you smell a flop a cookin'?

hopesfall2own

I do hope it takes alot longer than 8 hrs but I'll wait and see for the game to come out before I make any judgements

Can you smell a flop a cookin'?

double-taketake

I can definitely smell something. A game with a _stage_ which is longer than 95% of all 360 and PS3 games out there.

[QUOTE="double-taketake"]

It's not looking good for Spore, early player previews are reporting the game is great as a creature creator, but shallow in the gameplay department and only takes about "8 hours!" to get from the cell stage to the space stage.

Can you smell a flop a cookin'?

hopesfall2own

[QUOTE="hopesfall2own"][QUOTE="double-taketake"]

It's not looking good for Spore, early player previews are reporting the game is great as a creature creator, but shallow in the gameplay department and only takes about "8 hours!" to get from the cell stage to the space stage.

Can you smell a flop a cookin'?

blue_hazy_basic

I do hope it takes alot longer than 8 hrs but I'll wait and see for the game to come out before I make any judgements

[QUOTE="hopesfall2own"][QUOTE="double-taketake"]

It's not looking good for Spore, early player previews are reporting the game is great as a creature creator, but shallow in the gameplay department and only takes about "8 hours!" to get from the cell stage to the space stage.

Can you smell a flop a cookin'?

ithilgore2006

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="hopesfall2own"][QUOTE="double-taketake"]

It's not looking good for Spore, early player previews are reporting the game is great as a creature creator, but shallow in the gameplay department and only takes about "8 hours!" to get from the cell stage to the space stage.

Can you smell a flop a cookin'?

hopesfall2own

I do hope it takes alot longer than 8 hrs but I'll wait and see for the game to come out before I make any judgements

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="hopesfall2own"][QUOTE="double-taketake"]

It's not looking good for Spore, early player previews are reporting the game is great as a creature creator, but shallow in the gameplay department and only takes about "8 hours!" to get from the cell stage to the space stage.

Can you smell a flop a cookin'?

hopesfall2own

I do hope it takes alot longer than 8 hrs but I'll wait and see for the game to come out before I make any judgements

I do smell a flop cooking to be honest, but that's just because a flop here is based on single GS review.

8 hours sounds perfect for me, I really don't want to dwell too long in the pacman stage and I wanna replay the game several times.

My main concern are the shallow comments, I didn't expect Civ4 kinda depth in the civilization stage or anything, but I did hope there would be some challenge and management involved, I'll be saddened if you only design stuff and the rest of the game just plays out on its own.

People calling the game shallow need to watch the very first introduction to Spore back in 2005; because they don't understand what the game is about.

The only thing shallow is their imaginations.

[QUOTE="Technoweirdo"][QUOTE="PC360Wii"]

8 hours to get that far? thats impressive, considering the final stage is endless ( well theres a secret ending, for getting to the centre I think ).

Also considering you probably wont only make 1 creature in your full playtime?

PC360Wii

How does knowing that there's a secret ending before the game is even released make it a secret!?:P

Not knowing how its triggered :P ( That was an assumption by the guys that announced it ) , it could be dominated the entire galaxy which just reaks of hardcore O_O as said by them "Only the very few of the most hardcore will see this ending". :D

they have said how it is triggered...

Get to the center of the galaxy and you get some "ending"

The secret is what happens in the "End"

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="Technoweirdo"][QUOTE="PC360Wii"]

8 hours to get that far? thats impressive, considering the final stage is endless ( well theres a secret ending, for getting to the centre I think ).

Also considering you probably wont only make 1 creature in your full playtime?

horrowhip

How does knowing that there's a secret ending before the game is even released make it a secret!?:P

Not knowing how its triggered :P ( That was an assumption by the guys that announced it ) , it could be dominated the entire galaxy which just reaks of hardcore O_O as said by them "Only the very few of the most hardcore will see this ending". :D

they have said how it is triggered...

Get to the center of the galaxy and you get some "ending"

The secret is what happens in the "End"

I guess I misread, "wuh-oh" :lol:

Soon, Will Wright's gonna release his Spore all over us! My mouth is wide open in anticipation!nervmeister

[QUOTE="nervmeister"]Soon, Will Wright's gonna release his Spore all over us! My mouth is wide open in anticipation!nervmeister

You dirty dirty person :P

People calling the game shallow need to watch the very first introduction to Spore back in 2005; because they don't understand what the game is about.

The only thing shallow is their imaginations.

AnnoyedDragon

Plus they jumped the civilization stage over pretty quickly in the demonstration. Are there any resources? Is there diplomacy? Is there any strategy involved in what I need to build? Is there any tactics involved in the combat etc. Or Will I just be designing buildings and vehicles at that point while the game just does its thing on the background?

I'm getting this horror image of a game where you only interact with the game through the editor, and that it's so simple and idiot proof that whatever you do, you won't loose.

People calling the game shallow need to watch the very first introduction to Spore back in 2005; because they don't understand what the game is about.

The only thing shallow is their imaginations.

AnnoyedDragon

It's not looking good for Spore, early player previews are reporting the game is great as a creature creator, but shallow in the gameplay department and only takes about "8 hours!" to get from the cell stage to the space stage.

Can you smell a flop a cookin'?

double-taketake

Look at the critic ratings

Rofl no, its not gonna be a flop

Yes, I've watched that myself few times and that's where my hype mainly comes from. But will the finished game really be like it or did something get left on the editing table?

mr_mozilla

My concern is people are going to treat Spore like any other game, almost like a TV. They are an audience egally waiting a show to entertain them, when the idea behind Spore is people take the tools and the sandbox given to them to find their own entertainment; tell their own stories.

People are talking about the game being shallow, well that is because they are only taking what the game has given them and contributed nothing back. Will Wright's "Mo" experience wasn't something that was hard coded, it wasn't something set up in advance for him to play though, he created that experience from what he was given.

If people mentally sit on their butt and say "Ok Spore, entertain me" they are going to have a boring experience. Spore has provided all the tools needed to personalize your experience, but in the end you are the one who has to determine that experience; not pre defined aspects of the game.

If many people don't have the imagination and creativity to find fun in Spore; perhaps Will Wright overestimated his audience.

[QUOTE="double-taketake"]

It's not looking good for Spore, early player previews are reporting the game is great as a creature creator, but shallow in the gameplay department and only takes about "8 hours!" to get from the cell stage to the space stage.

Can you smell a flop a cookin'?

Phenom316

Look at the critic ratings

Rofl no, its not gonna be a flop

Keep in mind I'm just discussing the possibility, but I still have my fears.

[QUOTE="mr_mozilla"]

Yes, I've watched that myself few times and that's where my hype mainly comes from. But will the finished game really be like it or did something get left on the editing table?

AnnoyedDragon

My concern is people are going to treat Spore like any other game, almost like a TV. They are an audience egally waiting a show to entertain them, when the idea behind Spore is people take the tools and the sandbox given to them to find their own entertainment; tell their own stories.

People are talking about the game being shallow, well that is because they are only taking what the game has given them and contributed nothing back. Will Wrights "Mo" experience wasn't something that was hard coded, it wasn't something set up in advance for him to play though, he created that experience from what he was given.

If people mentally sit on their butt and say "Ok Spore, entertain me" they are going to have a boring experience. Spore has provided all the tools needed to personalize your experience, but in the end you are the one who has to determine that experience; not pre defined aspects of the game.

If many people don't have the imagination and creativity to find fun in Spore; perhaps Will Wright overestimated his audience.

I understand where you're coming from, but well, I completely disagree. If I wanted to create a bunch of wacky characters and buildings I could draw them on a piece of paper. Unless I can do interesting things with the characters and creations, things that have some depth to them, what's the point?

And really was the insult to anyone who disagree's at the end of your post necessary? Not everyone enjoys just creating monsters, and it certainly doesn't make them any less intelligent.

[QUOTE="mr_mozilla"]

Yes, I've watched that myself few times and that's where my hype mainly comes from. But will the finished game really be like it or did something get left on the editing table?

AnnoyedDragon

My concern is people are going to treat Spore like any other game, almost like a TV. They are an audience egally waiting a show to entertain them, when the idea behind Spore is people take the tools and the sandbox given to them to find their own entertainment; tell their own stories.

People are talking about the game being shallow, well that is because they are only taking what the game has given them and contributed nothing back. Will Wright's "Mo" experience wasn't something that was hard coded, it wasn't something set up in advance for him to play though, he created that experience from what he was given.

If people mentally sit on their butt and say "Ok Spore, entertain me" they are going to have a boring experience. Spore has provided all the tools needed to personalize your experience, but in the end you are the one who has to determine that experience; not pre defined aspects of the game.

If many people don't have the imagination and creativity to find fun in Spore; perhaps Will Wright overestimated his audience.

I understand where you're coming from, but well, I completely disagree. If I wanted to create a bunch of wacky characters and buildings I could draw them on a piece of paper. Unless I can do interesting things with the characters and creations, things that have some depth to them, what's the point?

double-taketake

As I said all the "interesting things" e.g. tools, missions, customisation etc. has been provided for the player. It is then up to the player to utilise all these tools to create their own enjoyable experience, an experience made personal by the players personalization of game content and choices, that is the original goal for Spore.

And really was the insult to anyone who disagrees at the end of your post necessary? Not everyone enjoys just creating monsters, and it certainly doesn't make them any less intelligent.

double-taketake

It is like people saying Crysis has crappy game play because they played it like any other run and gun shooter, not utilising the variety of abilities and game mechanics that set the game apart. All the elements to make it the best shooter of that year are in there, if you didn't find them then people were not being "creative" or "imaginative" enough in their approach. They expected the game to do all the work for them to make the experience fun like most mindless shooters.

These games are providing all the tools players need to have fun, if they didn't have fun then they approached the games in the wrong way. I get the feeling that gamers today are just used to sitting back and having the developers pre determined experience unfold, they are not used to taking part and putting effort into that experience to get something out of it.

In Spore this is the story of your fantasy species, the game doesn't determine the personality or "lore" of your alien race; you do. If you only react to the game play, putting nothing from your own imagination into the experience, then the Will Wright "Moe" effect is lost and people will come out of the game with less than expected.

8 hours if you don't spend alot of time in subsequent stages. You can play in each stage as long as you want and since the space stage is endless I think time is irrelevant.meetroid8

Besides, a good Civ 4 game takes about 8 hours...

It's not looking good for Spore, early player previews are reporting the game is great as a creature creator, but shallow in the gameplay department and only takes about "8 hours!" to get from the cell stage to the space stage.

Can you smell a flop a cookin'?

double-taketake

[QUOTE="double-taketake"]

Can you smell a flop a cookin'?

IgGy621985

I can definitely smell something. A game with a _stage_ which is longer than 95% of all 360 and PS3 games out there.

Just because you hate consoles doesn't mean you can pull random statistics out of your butt and try to pass them off as fact. :?

I hope it flops. I'll have more fun hearing people whining about how GameSpot sucks for not giving it AAA than playing the actual game. But GameSpot will give it AAA, so it doesn't matter.

Anyone else getting the impression that console fanboys are salivating at the mouth at the idea Spore will be a flop? You would love that wouldn't you? For an extremely high profile PC exclusive that has been under development since before 2005 to flop.

Spore hasn't launched world wide yet, if you are declaring flop at this point (despite positive review) your fanboyism has hit idiotic status.

A couple of people on a forum may be enough to determine a games success by 'your' standards; but some of us would actually like to play the game before passing judgment. It is eventually going to work its way to all platforms so you would have to be an idiot to actually want this game to be bad.

It's not looking good for Spore, early player previews are reporting the game is great as a creature creator, but shallow in the gameplay department and only takes about "8 hours!" to get from the cell stage to the space stage.

Can you smell a flop a cookin'?

double-taketake

Anyone else getting the impression that console fanboys are salivating at the mouth at the idea Spore will be a flop? You would love that wouldn't you? For an extremely high profile PC exclusive that has been under development since before 2005 to flop.

Spore hasn't launched world wide yet, if you are declaring flop at this point (despite positive review) your fanboyism has hit idiotic status.

A couple of people on a forum may be enough to determine a games success by 'your' standards; but some of us would actually like to play the game before passing judgment. It is eventually going to work its way to all platforms so you would have to be an idiot to actually want this game to be bad.

AnnoyedDragon

Yes, that's why I said I hope Spore flops.

flop confirmed. have fun with your krappy jrpg.NaiKoN9293

Yes, that's why I said I hope Spore flops.

DeathScape666

What sort of self rightous prick wants a game to flop?

[QUOTE="DeathScape666"]

Yes, that's why I said I hope Spore flops.

AnnoyedDragon

What sort of self rightous prick wants a game to flop?

Because I don't want to play the game either way. The only entertainment I would get out of it would be if it scored below AAA, or even AA, and mayhem ensued in System Wars. Yeah, I have fun in System Wars when a big game flops, and this would just be too good. You would never hear the end of it if Spore flopped. The Haze hate was terrible. I can only imagine how much fun System Wars would be if this were to happen.

I guess it sucks for the people that actually plan on playing the game, but hell, I'll have fun. It won't flop, though. I know that.