Square Enix favours PS3's high-end performance!!!

[QUOTE="makingmusic476"]

And yet you dismissed every other game besides FF thati mentioned?

It doesn't matter how many ps2s sold, or what the attachment rate was. Most ps2 owners were casuals who have probably never played a FF game in their lives. FF has a very large fanbase. Every iteration of the series since FFVII has sold at least 5 mil., some of them getting up to 8-9 mil., and the series has gained quite a following. I know many people who have said they won't buy a ps3 until FFXIII comes out or unless FFXIII stays exclusive.

The same goes with MGS4, except the MGS series averages 4-6 mil. salesper iteration.

Illumination77

THat's actually not true. None of the ff's after 7 sold over 5 million copies.

i think you just owned yourself

[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]FF will sell in Japan like Halo in the States. I don't see any point in to question the PS3 install base over a game like FF. Top 5 franchises of gaming history. I wouldn't be worry about Square-ebix not making a profit off a FF game.Vandalvideo

Earth to this poster the game is to be release in 2008 not tomorrow.

But when games start coming out (especially games like MGS), sales numbers will go up. When the price drops, sales will go up. When the holiday season hits, sales will go up. The ps3 will not sell at this rate forever.It's safe to say the ps3 is selling at thelowest rate it will probably until the end of it's life.

Also, none of this takes into account the sales of ps3s that will happen just from the game coming out. Look what Gears, a brand new IP, did for the 360, and that was just a combination of good marketing and the holiday season. The 360 sold more during the 06 holiday season than it did through out it's entirefirst year on the market.

This game is going to be AMAZING! The first game of a beloved franchise on a new system is always amazing, GT3, MGS2, Final 10, this game is going to rock so much.Eddie-Vedder

dont bother. There is no set date for it.IbukiNinja

Well now i guess we can see who will outsell each other

Halo 3 and Gears of War v.s. Final Fantasy

hmmmm

Well now i guess we can see who will outsell each other

Halo 3 and Gears of War v.s. Final Fantasy

hmmmm

icedfacekilla57

And GT3 outsold Halo 1&2 combined.

[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]dont bother. There is no set date for it.Vandalvideo

lol 2 years and only 6 million PS3? lmao!!!!

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]dont bother. There is no set date for it.IbukiNinja

lol 2 years and only 6 million PS3? lmao!!!!

[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]dont bother. There is no set date for it.Vandalvideo

lol 2 years and only 6 million PS3? lmao!!!!

But once again, that doesn' take into account the holiday season. Like i said earlier:

"Look what Gears, a brand new IP, did for the 360, and that was just a combination of good marketing and the holiday season. The 360 sold more during the 06 holiday season than it did through out it's entire first year on the market."

So that's at least 6 mil. just by the end of this year, assuming the ps3 only sells 3 mil. all the way from now until the end of December.

Look what Gears, a brand new IP, did for the 360, and that was just a combination of good marketing and the holiday season. The 360 sold more during the 06 holiday season than it did through out it's entire first year on the market."So that's at least 6 mil. just by the end of this year, assuming the ps3 only sells 3 mil. all the way from now until the end of December.makingmusic476

Hey, if they want to spent millions of dollars developing games for a system with a small installed userbase that probably won't warrant them much of a return on their investment thats their sauce.Vandalvideo

i really dont think u will care more than them for their games

[QUOTE="Illumination77"][QUOTE="makingmusic476"]

And yet you dismissed every other game besides FF thati mentioned?

It doesn't matter how many ps2s sold, or what the attachment rate was. Most ps2 owners were casuals who have probably never played a FF game in their lives. FF has a very large fanbase. Every iteration of the series since FFVII has sold at least 5 mil., some of them getting up to 8-9 mil., and the series has gained quite a following. I know many people who have said they won't buy a ps3 until FFXIII comes out or unless FFXIII stays exclusive.

The same goes with MGS4, except the MGS series averages 4-6 mil. salesper iteration.

makingmusic476

THat's actually not true. None of the ff's after 7 sold over 5 million copies.

Well, according to VGChartz (if you trust them), every FF since FFVII has sold over 5 mil., with the exception of FFXII, which stopped just short at 4.94 mil. That number hasn't been updated in a long while, so i assumed it had passed the 5 mil. mark by now.

Edited: And strangely, FFXI is not on that list, but i wouldn't even count that, being an MMO and all.

VGcharts.com is not ar eliable source and FF12 topepdo ut at 1.5 mil. FFX did NOT sell over 5 mil and neither did ffX-2.

Umm, Lemmings, why're you bringing up attachement rates for single games. If an attachement rate is too high, that means there isn't many other system sellers on that console. Thats why Halo always had such a high attachment rate on the xbox, because the xbox brand doesn't have any other system sellers besides Halo. Playstation has always had a diverse game lineup so 1 game won't get that high an attachment rate. FF isn't the only popular series on playstation, so stop using the attachment rate thing as ownage when Playstation always sold 100+ million consoles. When you think about it, Playstation always sold that many units because it had such a large variety of great games. In other words, Playstation wouldn't have been a successful brand if 1 game had such high attachment rate, cause they wouldn't be appealing to everyone if that was the case. gogeta242

He's just pointing out most all playstation owners don't care baout final fantasy, or metal gear or Devil May Cry etc. There are 40 million ps2's in north america and ff12 could ONLY sell 1.5 million copies.

[QUOTE="Tnasty11"] so you saying the installment base of the ps3 won't grow at allVandalvideo

[QUOTE="makingmusic476"][QUOTE="Illumination77"][QUOTE="makingmusic476"]

And yet you dismissed every other game besides FF thati mentioned?

It doesn't matter how many ps2s sold, or what the attachment rate was. Most ps2 owners were casuals who have probably never played a FF game in their lives. FF has a very large fanbase. Every iteration of the series since FFVII has sold at least 5 mil., some of them getting up to 8-9 mil., and the series has gained quite a following. I know many people who have said they won't buy a ps3 until FFXIII comes out or unless FFXIII stays exclusive.

The same goes with MGS4, except the MGS series averages 4-6 mil. salesper iteration.

Illumination77

THat's actually not true. None of the ff's after 7 sold over 5 million copies.

Well, according to VGChartz (if you trust them), every FF since FFVII has sold over 5 mil., with the exception of FFXII, which stopped just short at 4.94 mil. That number hasn't been updated in a long while, so i assumed it had passed the 5 mil. mark by now.

Edited: And strangely, FFXI is not on that list, but i wouldn't even count that, being an MMO and all.

VGcharts.com is not ar eliable source and FF12 topepdo ut at 1.5 mil. FFX did NOT sell over 5 mil and neither did ffX-2.

a Japanese company praising another Japanese company.....nothing new there..

i think us with our heads screwed on know already the ps3 isnt what sony or anyone else says it is..

i like how he covered his back by saying its not only about graphics!!! lol

a Japanese company praising another Japanese company.....nothing new there..

i think us with our heads screwed on know already the ps3 isnt what sony or anyone else says it is..

i like how he covered his back by saying its not only about graphics!!! lol

daveg1

[QUOTE="daveg1"]

a Japanese company praising another Japanese company.....nothing new there..

i think us with our heads screwed on know already the ps3 isnt what sony or anyone else says it is..

i like how he covered his back by saying its not only about graphics!!! lol

Mandingo101

[QUOTE="Mandingo101"][QUOTE="daveg1"]

a Japanese company praising another Japanese company.....nothing new there..

i think us with our heads screwed on know already the ps3 isnt what sony or anyone else says it is..

i like how he covered his back by saying its not only about graphics!!! lol

daveg1

and the guy who invented Final Fantasy favors the 360. So that argument is void.akuma303x

He "favors" the 360 out of spite. He was the one who made that crappy 'FF the Spirits Within' movie that almost caused Square to go bankrupt. They let him go and he's had a vendetta with Square and Sony ever since.

Your comment is VOID.

[QUOTE="daveg1"][QUOTE="Mandingo101"][QUOTE="daveg1"]

a Japanese company praising another Japanese company.....nothing new there..

i think us with our heads screwed on know already the ps3 isnt what sony or anyone else says it is..

i like how he covered his back by saying its not only about graphics!!! lol

Mandingo101

who said anything about that being lies?? not i .

fanboy reality? you want to read your post a little more careful and ask your self who is living in that reality....

japanese company's always praise each other its called good relations..if my game is on your system and i make cash from you i will say good things about it.plus this is a new generation with new things being possible on any platform he's just talking about some of them possibilities...nothing new there either they come out of the wood work every time a new game or something is getting talked about...its for people like you to lap up before you buy a ps3 or the game...

take a look at my profile and you will see i have a ps3....

weak sauce indeed....hehe

and the guy who invented Final Fantasy favors the 360. So that argument is void.akuma303x

wow...

things change over time buddy, and i'm kinda glad thatman wont have any input on FFXIII.

the stuff he's coming out with on 360 pales in comparison to XIII in terms of vision andscope. I agree that the concept of LO is interesting but the gameplay (please dont bother saying ohh bbu bu he said its only an early build use common sense it's gonna be turn based) is very very very very very dated. Blue dragon? i've seen enough of that game to see how weak it is. Have you seen the trailer to Final fantasy dissidia, expect the gameplay of FFXIII versus to be just as fast as that. Just think about how kingdom hearts moves and you can get a picture of Versus, that's moving in a progressive direction unlike the father of final fantasy's tedious looking games on 360. He needs to retire.

[QUOTE="akuma303x"]and the guy who invented Final Fantasy favors the 360. So that argument is void.mztazmz

He "favors" the 360 out of spite. He was the one who made that crappy 'FF the Spirits Within' movie that almost caused Square to go bankrupt. They let him go and he's had a vendetta with Square and Sony ever since.

Your comment is VOID.

thats what i was trying to remember. :)

Sakaguchi isa crybaby who needs to retire. :-P

[QUOTE="Klash47"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Hey, if they want to spent millions of dollars developing games for a system with a small installed user base that probably won't warrant them much of a return on their investment thats their sauce.Vandalvideo

its small now because it hasn't been on the market that long, think think

If every developer took that approach then no games would ever be developed seeing as how all systems start at zero.

[QUOTE="akuma303x"]and the guy who invented Final Fantasy favors the 360. So that argument is void.Filonus

wow...

things change over time buddy, and i'm kinda glad thatman wont have any input on FFXIII.

the stuff he's coming out with on 360 pales in comparison to XIII in terms of vision andscope. I agree that the concept of LO is interesting but the gameplay (please dont bother saying ohh bbu bu he said its only an early build use common sense it's gonna be turn based) is very very very very very dated. Blue dragon? i've seen enough of that game to see how weak it is. Have you seen the trailer to Final fantasy dissidia, expect the gameplay of FFXIII versus to be just as fast as that. Just think about how kingdom hearts moves and you can get a picture of Versus, that's moving in a progressive direction unlike the father of final fantasy's tedious looking games on 360. He needs to retire.

This is really funny cause you know NOTHING about ANYTHING in ff 13 right now lmao