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#51 Ilived
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yeah, Final Fantasy XIII being exclusive to X360 show how much they love.....wait a sec :shock:-Serpahim-

A rehashed title from them doesn't need to be released on the 360 to show how much they love it.

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#52 chicken008
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They love the DS more..
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but Japaneses games makes more money on japanese consolesTnasty11

A blanket statement easily shot down by the existance of Dead Rising and Lost Planet.

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[QUOTE="Tnasty11"]but Japaneses games makes more money on japanese consolesYellow_Rose

A blanket statement easily shot down by the existance of Dead Rising and Lost Planet.

So where's Dead Rising 2 or Lost Planet 2?

Isn't it funny that Capcom is reporting record profits not from Dead Rising or Lost Planet, but actually from RE 4 Wii? Seems like Tnasty11 was pretty accurate with that statement.

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[QUOTE="-Serpahim-"]yeah, Final Fantasy XIII being exclusive to X360 show how much they love.....wait a sec :shock:Ilived

A rehashed title from them doesn't need to be released on the 360 to show how much they love it.

I hope you are on crack, because as we all know FFXIII is the premiere title for Squeenix. Thats like saying "Rockstar is showing the Wii sum luv!!! So what if PS3/X360 get GTAIV? Wii gets Table Tennis!!! No on needs rehashed series like GTA!!!!" :|

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[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]burn, but yeah where did stony brook come from and im sure you can all guess im from long island nowdarkIink

I am sure there is nothing wrong with the school. I was just laughing at a post from someone that wants to advertise he is a college student and puts posts like that.

why the h*** is everyone flipping out? isn't this thread just for trolling? I don't actually believe the s*** that I say, I am just a balencer to all the lemmings on SW (they outnumber all other fanboys). lol touchy people here.

I'll let you 3.45 GPA figure out what's wrong here ;)

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[QUOTE="Tnasty11"]but Japaneses games makes more money on japanese consolesYellow_Rose

A blanket statement easily shot down by the existance of Dead Rising and Lost Planet.

deadrising andlost planet do not appeal to Japanese gamers

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#58 Ilived
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[QUOTE="Ilived"]

[QUOTE="-Serpahim-"]yeah, Final Fantasy XIII being exclusive to X360 show how much they love.....wait a sec :shock:-Serpahim-

A rehashed title from them doesn't need to be released on the 360 to show how much they love it.

I hope you are on crack, because as we all know FFXIII is the premiere title for Squeenix. Thats like saying "Rockstar is showing the Wii sum luv!!! So what if PS3/X360 get GTAIV? Wii gets Table Tennis!!! No on needs rehashed series like GTA!!!!" :|

Well I can tell you that I don't give a rats ass about Japanese games...especially lame ones like FF to be honest.

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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"]but Japaneses games makes more money on japanese consolesZhengi

A blanket statement easily shot down by the existance of Dead Rising and Lost Planet.

So where's Dead Rising 2 or Lost Planet 2?

Isn't it funny that Capcom is reporting record profits not from Dead Rising or Lost Planet, but actually from RE 4 Wii? Seems like Tnasty11 was pretty accurate with that statement.

RE4 Wii has sold a total of 1.02 million

DR 360, 1.48 million

LP 360, 1.33 million

so yeah, Dead Rising and LP has made more money confirmed

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#60 BambooBanger
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This is from a interview for Cnet in Japan from Square Enix CEO

"The Wii is the antithesis of the Xbox 360. The 360 is strictly for hardcore gamers. The attachment rate for the Xbox 360 is much higher than for the Wii.

"People who buy the 360 really like games. I think the current trend is that most people aren't buying the Wii as a game machine, but as a toy.

"It seems that Sony isn't sure what it wants to do. Is it making high-end electronics or a game console for gamers? I want them to clearly define their console."

http://www.destructoid.com/square-ceo-says-everyone-except-microsoft-is-doing-it-wrong-57698.phtml

Funny what they said about PS3. Square Enix has already been puttingfar more games on the 360 then on Xbox.

Eltroz

So SE's accountant's pretty much got together and said "we need to develop more for the 360". or thats the vibe I'm getting from this out-of-the-blue comment anyway.

Every developer/publisher is well aware of the 360's software success and potential, SE could probably move 2/3 million units of FF13 on the 360 alone.

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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"]but Japaneses games makes more money on japanese consolesZhengi

A blanket statement easily shot down by the existance of Dead Rising and Lost Planet.

So where's Dead Rising 2 or Lost Planet 2?

Isn't it funny that Capcom is reporting record profits not from Dead Rising or Lost Planet, but actually from RE 4 Wii? Seems like Tnasty11 was pretty accurate with that statement.

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/deadrising/news.html?sid=6171126

Despite worries of a transitional slump between console generations, 2006 was a good year for much of the gaming industry. Capcom was no exception, as the publisher today released its financial results for the year ended March 31, 2007, and comfortably beat its own expectations for revenues and profits......."One of the significant accomplishments is that both Dead Rising and Lost Planet for Xbox 360 achieved sales of one million copies due to their great popularity in the US and Europe," the publisher explained in its report. "They have now joined our team of brand-name titles. ... "

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[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"]but Japaneses games makes more money on japanese consolesTheOwnerOner

A blanket statement easily shot down by the existance of Dead Rising and Lost Planet.

So where's Dead Rising 2 or Lost Planet 2?

Isn't it funny that Capcom is reporting record profits not from Dead Rising or Lost Planet, but actually from RE 4 Wii? Seems like Tnasty11 was pretty accurate with that statement.

RE4 Wii has sold a total of 1.02 million

DR 360, 1.48 million

LP 360, 1.33 million

so yeah, Dead Rising and LP has made more money confirmed

link? and do not use vgchatz
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[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"]but Japaneses games makes more money on japanese consolesYellow_Rose

A blanket statement easily shot down by the existance of Dead Rising and Lost Planet.

So where's Dead Rising 2 or Lost Planet 2?

Isn't it funny that Capcom is reporting record profits not from Dead Rising or Lost Planet, but actually from RE 4 Wii? Seems like Tnasty11 was pretty accurate with that statement.

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/deadrising/news.html?sid=6171126

Despite worries of a transitional slump between console generations, 2006 was a good year for much of the gaming industry. Capcom was no exception, as the publisher today released its financial results for the year ended March 31, 2007, and comfortably beat its own expectations for revenues and profits......."One of the significant accomplishments is that both Dead Rising and Lost Planet for Xbox 360 achieved sales of one million copies due to their great popularity in the US and Europe," the publisher explained in its report. "They have now joined our team of brand-name titles. ... "

zhengi Said Profits

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#64 Yellow_Rose
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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"]but Japaneses games makes more money on japanese consolesTnasty11

A blanket statement easily shot down by the existance of Dead Rising and Lost Planet.

deadrising andlost planet do not appeal to Japanese gamers

Then I guess Genji and Folklore don't appeal to Japanese gamers either since they've both sold less than Dead Rising and Lost Planet in Japan.

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lol loser I have a 3.45 GPA so far, and I'll get it higher with the finals. Stony Brook invented the MRI machine jerk, it is a very highly ranked science school. what the h*** are you two, college dropouts or grade school kids? get out of your parents basements.

darkIink

3.45GPA at a **** school says about as much as winning a spelling bee against kids with autism. Not that it makes a difference, you have no proof of anything, so all we can go by are your idiotic posts.

FYI, I'm in Highschool. No, I live in my house; not restricted to a specific floor like you, apparently, were. Yes, with my mom.

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[QUOTE="-Serpahim-"][QUOTE="Ilived"]

[QUOTE="-Serpahim-"]yeah, Final Fantasy XIII being exclusive to X360 show how much they love.....wait a sec :shock:Ilived

A rehashed title from them doesn't need to be released on the 360 to show how much they love it.

I hope you are on crack, because as we all know FFXIII is the premiere title for Squeenix. Thats like saying "Rockstar is showing the Wii sum luv!!! So what if PS3/X360 get GTAIV? Wii gets Table Tennis!!! No on needs rehashed series like GTA!!!!" :|

Well I can tell you that I don't give a rats ass about Japanese games...especially lame ones like FF to be honest.

you may not care about it, but it would be very ignorant to discount it. I mean i dont like Bioware games, but even i realized how big Mass Effect was for the X360. Regardless of what you think, you cannot deny that FF is square main franchise, and what better way is there to show support for a system than to give it exclusivity rights to their main franchise?

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#67 TheOwnerOner
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[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"]but Japaneses games makes more money on japanese consolesTnasty11

A blanket statement easily shot down by the existance of Dead Rising and Lost Planet.

So where's Dead Rising 2 or Lost Planet 2?

Isn't it funny that Capcom is reporting record profits not from Dead Rising or Lost Planet, but actually from RE 4 Wii? Seems like Tnasty11 was pretty accurate with that statement.

RE4 Wii has sold a total of 1.02 million

DR 360, 1.48 million

LP 360, 1.33 million

so yeah, Dead Rising and LP has made more money confirmed

link? and do not use vgchatz

Thier project stats are off,

but updated ones from the past are right on,

you got a better source?

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#68 Yellow_Rose
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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"]but Japaneses games makes more money on japanese consolesTnasty11

A blanket statement easily shot down by the existance of Dead Rising and Lost Planet.

So where's Dead Rising 2 or Lost Planet 2?

Isn't it funny that Capcom is reporting record profits not from Dead Rising or Lost Planet, but actually from RE 4 Wii? Seems like Tnasty11 was pretty accurate with that statement.

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/deadrising/news.html?sid=6171126

Despite worries of a transitional slump between console generations, 2006 was a good year for much of the gaming industry. Capcom was no exception, as the publisher today released its financial results for the year ended March 31, 2007, and comfortably beat its own expectations for revenues and profits......."One of the significant accomplishments is that both Dead Rising and Lost Planet for Xbox 360 achieved sales of one million copies due to their great popularity in the US and Europe," the publisher explained in its report. "They have now joined our team of brand-name titles. ... "

zhengi Said Profits

Did you miss this?

"Capcom was no exception, as the publisher today released its financial results for the year ended March 31, 2007, and comfortably beat its own expectations for revenues and profits"

It's the second sentence. :|

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#69 Zhengi
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[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"]but Japaneses games makes more money on japanese consolesTheOwnerOner

A blanket statement easily shot down by the existance of Dead Rising and Lost Planet.

So where's Dead Rising 2 or Lost Planet 2?

Isn't it funny that Capcom is reporting record profits not from Dead Rising or Lost Planet, but actually from RE 4 Wii? Seems like Tnasty11 was pretty accurate with that statement.

RE4 Wii has sold a total of 1.02 million

DR 360, 1.48 million

LP 360, 1.33 million

so yeah, Dead Rising and LP has made more money confirmed

Right, Capcom was expecting to sell only 400k copies of Resident Evil. They have sold 1.02 million. That means about 700k copies of it = profit. You figure out the math there.

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#70 Tnasty11
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[QUOTE="Tnasty11"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"]but Japaneses games makes more money on japanese consolesTheOwnerOner

A blanket statement easily shot down by the existance of Dead Rising and Lost Planet.

So where's Dead Rising 2 or Lost Planet 2?

Isn't it funny that Capcom is reporting record profits not from Dead Rising or Lost Planet, but actually from RE 4 Wii? Seems like Tnasty11 was pretty accurate with that statement.

RE4 Wii has sold a total of 1.02 million

DR 360, 1.48 million

LP 360, 1.33 million

so yeah, Dead Rising and LP has made more money confirmed

link? and do not use vgchatz

Thier project stats are off,

but updated ones from the past are right on,

you got a better source?

nope
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[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"]but Japaneses games makes more money on japanese consolesTnasty11

A blanket statement easily shot down by the existance of Dead Rising and Lost Planet.

So where's Dead Rising 2 or Lost Planet 2?

Isn't it funny that Capcom is reporting record profits not from Dead Rising or Lost Planet, but actually from RE 4 Wii? Seems like Tnasty11 was pretty accurate with that statement.

RE4 Wii has sold a total of 1.02 million

DR 360, 1.48 million

LP 360, 1.33 million

so yeah, Dead Rising and LP has made more money confirmed

link? and do not use vgchatz

Thier project stats are off,

but updated ones from the past are right on,

you got a better source?

nope

Weren't you the one the started with the Japan buys more of this and that, makes more of this and that?

Where are you getting your numbers?

if you dont knowthen please, take your buy this and that outta here.

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#72 Apathetic-Irony
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[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="Zhengi"]

So where's Dead Rising 2 or Lost Planet 2?

Isn't it funny that Capcom is reporting record profits not from Dead Rising or Lost Planet, but actually from RE 4 Wii? Seems like Tnasty11 was pretty accurate with that statement.

Zhengi

RE4 Wii has sold a total of 1.02 million

DR 360, 1.48 million

LP 360, 1.33 million

so yeah, Dead Rising and LP has made more money confirmed

Right, Capcom was expecting to sell only 400k copies of Resident Evil. They have sold 1.02 million. That means about 700k copies of it = profit. You figure out the math there.

I don't see how this gets around the fact that Dead Rising and Lost Planet both outsold anything on the PS3, being Japanese games on an American system and all.

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""The Wii is the antithesis of the Xbox 360. The 360 is strictly for hardcore gamers. The attachment rate for the Xbox 360 is much higher than for the Wii."

The funny thing about this statement is the 360 has been out twice as long as the Wii. So it's attachment rate SHOULD be twice as high, since the average 360 owner has had their console for 2 years vs. just 1 year for the Wii. Yet the 360's attach rate is LESS than twice as high as the Wii's.

So much for the "great" software sales of the 360 :lol:

Number_1_Gamer

attachment rates are nice in all...But the number of systems that are in the customers hands many more than attachment rate ever will....Look at the PS2 maybe the worse attachment rate but still had some of the best selling games. Because of the number of systems.

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#74 Yellow_Rose
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[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"]but Japaneses games makes more money on japanese consolesTnasty11

A blanket statement easily shot down by the existance of Dead Rising and Lost Planet.

So where's Dead Rising 2 or Lost Planet 2?

Isn't it funny that Capcom is reporting record profits not from Dead Rising or Lost Planet, but actually from RE 4 Wii? Seems like Tnasty11 was pretty accurate with that statement.

RE4 Wii has sold a total of 1.02 million

DR 360, 1.48 million

LP 360, 1.33 million

so yeah, Dead Rising and LP has made more money confirmed

link? and do not use vgchatz

Why not? Those numbers come from NPD and Media Create. VGchartz just have it in a simple package.

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[QUOTE="Tnasty11"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"]but Japaneses games makes more money on japanese consolesTheOwnerOner

A blanket statement easily shot down by the existance of Dead Rising and Lost Planet.

So where's Dead Rising 2 or Lost Planet 2?

Isn't it funny that Capcom is reporting record profits not from Dead Rising or Lost Planet, but actually from RE 4 Wii? Seems like Tnasty11 was pretty accurate with that statement.

RE4 Wii has sold a total of 1.02 million

DR 360, 1.48 million

LP 360, 1.33 million

so yeah, Dead Rising and LP has made more money confirmed

link? and do not use vgchatz

Thier project stats are off,

but updated ones from the past are right on,

you got a better source?

nope

Weren't you the one the started with the Japan buys more of this and that, makes more of this and that?

Where are you getting your numbers?

if you dont knowthen please, take your buy this and that outta here.

here is my example

Final Fantasy XII sold more than 1,764,000 copies in its first week in Japan, almost equaling the sales of Final Fantasy X in its first week.[98] The total number of copies sold stood at 2,150,671 after five weeks of release.[99] A Square-Enix conference report stated that Final Fantasy XII has sold more than 2.38 million copies in Japan as of May 24, 2006.[5] By November 6, 2006-one week after its release-Final Fantasy XII had shipped approximately 1.5 million copies in North America.[100] On the 7th anniversary of the Playstation 2 in the U.S. (October2007), Final Fantasy XII was listed as the tenth best selling game for the PS2.[101]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XII

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#77 Zhengi
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[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"]but Japaneses games makes more money on japanese consolesYellow_Rose

A blanket statement easily shot down by the existance of Dead Rising and Lost Planet.

So where's Dead Rising 2 or Lost Planet 2?

Isn't it funny that Capcom is reporting record profits not from Dead Rising or Lost Planet, but actually from RE 4 Wii? Seems like Tnasty11 was pretty accurate with that statement.

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/deadrising/news.html?sid=6171126

Despite worries of a transitional slump between console generations, 2006 was a good year for much of the gaming industry. Capcom was no exception, as the publisher today released its financial results for the year ended March 31, 2007, and comfortably beat its own expectations for revenues and profits......."One of the significant accomplishments is that both Dead Rising and Lost Planet for Xbox 360 achieved sales of one million copies due to their great popularity in the US and Europe," the publisher explained in its report. "They have now joined our team of brand-name titles. ... "

And then the Financial report after that:

Capcom powers up revenues, profits

Japanese publisher reports a solid set of first-quarter financials, with operating income up 57 percent and net sales up 35 percent.

Posted Aug 3, 2007 11:26 am PT

Phoenix Wright 4 for the DS, Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition, and Monster Hunter Freedom 2 have all helped Osaka-based Capcom to overachieve against last year's first financial quarter, the company announced in its quarterly sales report.

The company's first fiscal quarter--which ended on June 30--saw net sales increase to 14.3 billion yen (approx $120 million), up 35 percent from the same period last year. Operating income increased to 2 billion yen ($17 million), up 57 percent, and net income was 1.1 billion yen ($8 million), up 40 percent.

The company amended its consolidated earnings forecast for the first six months of its financial 2007 after the good news. Net sales are now expected to be 30.4 billion yen ($256 million), up 3.6 percent on the original forecast; operating income is set for 2.4 billion yen ($20 million), up 60 percent; and net income is set for 1.4 billion yen ($11.8 million), up 80 percent.

GameSpot Link

Lost Planet and Dead Rising sold more than a million copies, and they gained profit. But titles on Japanese platforms actually earned them more profits with titles like Phoenix Wright 4, RE4 Wii, and Monster Hunter Freedom 2 earning them more profits due to the high costs of developing Lost Planet and Dead Rising.

Net income up 80%. Capcom am happy about that.

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#78 Xolver
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Destructoid? Isn't that a joke site or something?

Either way, their support goes in order of DS>PSP>360>=PS3>>>Wii.

Eponique

Actually, making the next major FF exclusive to the PS3 puts it before the 360, even if it already has a handful of 360 games. It makes it their lead home platform. I mean, for the last 10 years, I can't remember any big SE game not being a FF.

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[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="Zhengi"]

So where's Dead Rising 2 or Lost Planet 2?

Isn't it funny that Capcom is reporting record profits not from Dead Rising or Lost Planet, but actually from RE 4 Wii? Seems like Tnasty11 was pretty accurate with that statement.

Apathetic-Irony

RE4 Wii has sold a total of 1.02 million

DR 360, 1.48 million

LP 360, 1.33 million

so yeah, Dead Rising and LP has made more money confirmed

Right, Capcom was expecting to sell only 400k copies of Resident Evil. They have sold 1.02 million. That means about 700k copies of it = profit. You figure out the math there.

I don't see how this gets around the fact that Dead Rising and Lost Planet both outsold anything on the PS3, being Japanese games on an American system and all.

PS3? I thought we were talking about Japanese platforms. I didn't realize that the PS3 was the only Japanese platform.

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#80 LosDaddie
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[QUOTE="Apathetic-Irony"][QUOTE="darkIink"][QUOTE="-Serpahim-"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]

360, hardcore gamers who like games

Wii, hardcore kiddies who like toys,

PS3, hardcore fanboys who loves Sony.

Eltroz

funny how you happen to be proof that your statements are false :?

I know let me fix his post:

360: for losers who are on Live 24/7 and have a game library of 99% shooters

Wii: gamers who want something different and admit the graphics aren't up to par, but love the awesome games out.

PS3: for gamers who have $50 more to burn on top of the 360's cost (350 +50 = $400, 40GB) and are fine with having a much smaller library tochoose from because the 360's tired shooters library would be ignored anyway.

Is that a joke post or is Stony Brook University a bottom of the barrel college that accepts people with a GPA of 1.0?

Lmao I did not even notice the Stony Brook student part till you said that. I was thinking he was just some 12 year old kid till I saw you point that out. I am sure everyone of his professors would cry if they saw that.

:lol: So true.

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360, hardcore gamers who likes games

Wii, hardcore kiddies who likes toys,

PS3, hardcore fanboys who loves Sony.

TheOwnerOner

Excellent summary.

It's good to see Square recognize this truth.

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[QUOTE="Apathetic-Irony"][QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="Zhengi"]

So where's Dead Rising 2 or Lost Planet 2?

Isn't it funny that Capcom is reporting record profits not from Dead Rising or Lost Planet, but actually from RE 4 Wii? Seems like Tnasty11 was pretty accurate with that statement.

Zhengi

RE4 Wii has sold a total of 1.02 million

DR 360, 1.48 million

LP 360, 1.33 million

so yeah, Dead Rising and LP has made more money confirmed

Right, Capcom was expecting to sell only 400k copies of Resident Evil. They have sold 1.02 million. That means about 700k copies of it = profit. You figure out the math there.

I don't see how this gets around the fact that Dead Rising and Lost Planet both outsold anything on the PS3, being Japanese games on an American system and all.

PS3? I thought we were talking about Japanese platforms. I didn't realize that the PS3 was the only Japanese platform.

agreed
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[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]

360, hardcore gamers who likes games

Wii, hardcore kiddies who likes toys,

PS3, hardcore fanboys who loves Sony.

JiveT

Excellent summary.

It's good to see Square recognize this truth.

Exactly, Square and their accountant's to be more precise.

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This is from a interview for Cnet in Japan from Square Enix CEO

"The Wii is the antithesis of the Xbox 360. The 360 is strictly for hardcore gamers. The attachment rate for the Xbox 360 is much higher than for the Wii.

"People who buy the 360 really like games. I think the current trend is that most people aren't buying the Wii as a game machine, but as a toy.

"It seems that Sony isn't sure what it wants to do. Is it making high-end electronics or a game console for gamers? I want them to clearly define their console."

http://www.destructoid.com/square-ceo-says-everyone-except-microsoft-is-doing-it-wrong-57698.phtml

Funny what they said about PS3. Square Enix has already been puttingfar more games on the 360 then on Xbox.

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Right, Capcom was expecting to sell only 400k copies of Resident Evil. They have sold 1.02 million. That means about 700k copies of it = profit. You figure out the math there.

Zhengi

Alright, let's do some math shall we:

1,020,000x 29.99 = $30,589,800 (RE4 Wii - *assuming it didn't cost Capcom one dime to port to Wii)

1,330,000 x 59.99 = $79,786,700 - 20,000,000 (cost of production) = $59,786,700 PROFIT (Lost Planet)

1,480,000 x 59.99 =$88,785,200 - 20,000,000 (cost of production) = $68,785,200 PROFIT (Dead Rising)

Which of those numbers are bigger?

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[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="Zhengi"]

So where's Dead Rising 2 or Lost Planet 2?

Isn't it funny that Capcom is reporting record profits not from Dead Rising or Lost Planet, but actually from RE 4 Wii? Seems like Tnasty11 was pretty accurate with that statement.

Apathetic-Irony

RE4 Wii has sold a total of 1.02 million

DR 360, 1.48 million

LP 360, 1.33 million

so yeah, Dead Rising and LP has made more money confirmed

Right, Capcom was expecting to sell only 400k copies of Resident Evil. They have sold 1.02 million. That means about 700k copies of it = profit. You figure out the math there.

I don't see how this gets around the fact that Dead Rising and Lost Planet both outsold anything on the PS3, being Japanese games on an American system and all.

capcom had to made a game thatappeals to NA and europe to make it sell it on the 360

answer this if capcom made a game thatappeals to japan like Breath of fire would itsold over a million copies on the 360?

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Makes sense. These game developers makes games and want these games to sell. And the 360 and its owners buys these games like hot cakes so game developers loves the console where the money is at, the 360. Thats why all multiplats are better on the 360 and thats why it sells more on the 360. Jump in.

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Final Fantasy XIII and White Knight Story are both PS3 exclusives. I'm not sure how much love Square-Enix is showing the 360, but from where I am sitting I don't see a lot of it.....thinicer
White night story isn't from SE, its from level 5.
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[QUOTE="Apathetic-Irony"][QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="Zhengi"]

So where's Dead Rising 2 or Lost Planet 2?

Isn't it funny that Capcom is reporting record profits not from Dead Rising or Lost Planet, but actually from RE 4 Wii? Seems like Tnasty11 was pretty accurate with that statement.

Tnasty11

RE4 Wii has sold a total of 1.02 million

DR 360, 1.48 million

LP 360, 1.33 million

so yeah, Dead Rising and LP has made more money confirmed

Right, Capcom was expecting to sell only 400k copies of Resident Evil. They have sold 1.02 million. That means about 700k copies of it = profit. You figure out the math there.

I don't see how this gets around the fact that Dead Rising and Lost Planet both outsold anything on the PS3, being Japanese games on an American system and all.

capcom had to made a game thatappeals to NA and europe to make it sell it on the 360

answer this if capcom made a game thatappeals to japan like Breath of fire would itsold over a million copies on the 360?

Possibly, Breath of Fire is a proven franchise with a large fan base.

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[QUOTE="Eltroz"]

This is from a interview for Cnet in Japan from Square Enix CEO

"The Wii is the antithesis of the Xbox 360. The 360 is strictly for hardcore gamers. The attachment rate for the Xbox 360 is much higher than for the Wii.

"People who buy the 360 really like games. I think the current trend is that most people aren't buying the Wii as a game machine, but as a toy.

"It seems that Sony isn't sure what it wants to do. Is it making high-end electronics or a game console for gamers? I want them to clearly define their console."

http://www.destructoid.com/square-ceo-says-everyone-except-microsoft-is-doing-it-wrong-57698.phtml

Funny what they said about PS3. Square Enix has already been puttingfar more games on the 360 then on Xbox.

Tnasty11

where does it say SE love the 360?

exactly

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[QUOTE="thinicer"]Final Fantasy XIII and White Knight Story are both PS3 exclusives. I'm not sure how much love Square-Enix is showing the 360, but from where I am sitting I don't see a lot of it.....TheDarkDisciple

Infinite Undiscovery?

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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"]but Japaneses games makes more money on japanese consolesZhengi

A blanket statement easily shot down by the existance of Dead Rising and Lost Planet.

So where's Dead Rising 2 or Lost Planet 2?

Isn't it funny that Capcom is reporting record profits not from Dead Rising or Lost Planet, but actually from RE 4 Wii? Seems like Tnasty11 was pretty accurate with that statement.

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/deadrising/news.html?sid=6171126

Despite worries of a transitional slump between console generations, 2006 was a good year for much of the gaming industry. Capcom was no exception, as the publisher today released its financial results for the year ended March 31, 2007, and comfortably beat its own expectations for revenues and profits......."One of the significant accomplishments is that both Dead Rising and Lost Planet for Xbox 360 achieved sales of one million copies due to their great popularity in the US and Europe," the publisher explained in its report. "They have now joined our team of brand-name titles. ... "

And then the Financial report after that:

Capcom powers up revenues, profits

Japanese publisher reports a solid set of first-quarter financials, with operating income up 57 percent and net sales up 35 percent.

Posted Aug 3, 2007 11:26 am PT

Phoenix Wright 4 for the DS, Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition, and Monster Hunter Freedom 2 have all helped Osaka-based Capcom to overachieve against last year's first financial quarter, the company announced in its quarterly sales report.

The company's first fiscal quarter--which ended on June 30--saw net sales increase to 14.3 billion yen (approx $120 million), up 35 percent from the same period last year. Operating income increased to 2 billion yen ($17 million), up 57 percent, and net income was 1.1 billion yen ($8 million), up 40 percent.

The company amended its consolidated earnings forecast for the first six months of its financial 2007 after the good news. Net sales are now expected to be 30.4 billion yen ($256 million), up 3.6 percent on the original forecast; operating income is set for 2.4 billion yen ($20 million), up 60 percent; and net income is set for 1.4 billion yen ($11.8 million), up 80 percent.

GameSpot Link

Lost Planet and Dead Rising sold more than a million copies, and they gained profit. But titles on Japanese platforms actually earned them more profits with titles like Phoenix Wright 4, RE4 Wii, and Monster Hunter Freedom 2 earning them more profits due to the high costs of developing Lost Planet and Dead Rising.

Net income up 80%. Capcom am happy about that.

Your article is from AUGUST of this year, mine is from MAY

Those are 2 different fiscal quarters.

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[QUOTE="Zhengi"]

Right, Capcom was expecting to sell only 400k copies of Resident Evil. They have sold 1.02 million. That means about 700k copies of it = profit. You figure out the math there.

Yellow_Rose

Alright, let's do some math shall we:

1,020,000x 29.99 = $30,589,800 (RE4 Wii - *assuming it didn't cost Capcom one dime to port to Wii)

1,330,000 x 59.99 = $79,786,700 - 20,000,000 (cost of production) = $59,786,700 PROFIT (Lost Planet)

1,480,000 x 59.99 =$88,785,200 - 20,000,000 (cost of production) = $68,785,200 PROFIT (Dead Rising)

Which of those numbers are bigger?

Those numbers are so horribly wrong it's not even funny.

There are several execs who have said it takes about 1m sold to turn a profit on a next gen game.

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Well, I wouldn't call it love... But Square is starting to put in a steady flow of games in on the 360. It already has Final Fantasy XI and Project Sylpheed(not a whole lot, but more than the Wii and the PS3 right now anyway).

And with The Last Remnant and Infinite Undiscovery on the way it looks like the 360 is really starting to build a relationship with Square. Most likely due to the 360's prominance in the west and it's popularity in every other region other than Japan. It may not be so hot in Japan, but Square knows that it's still beneficial to publish a develop games that will sell else where.

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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Zhengi"]

Right, Capcom was expecting to sell only 400k copies of Resident Evil. They have sold 1.02 million. That means about 700k copies of it = profit. You figure out the math there.

Firelore29

Alright, let's do some math shall we:

1,020,000x 29.99 = $30,589,800 (RE4 Wii - *assuming it didn't cost Capcom one dime to port to Wii)

1,330,000 x 59.99 = $79,786,700 - 20,000,000 (cost of production) = $59,786,700 PROFIT (Lost Planet)

1,480,000 x 59.99 =$88,785,200 - 20,000,000 (cost of production) = $68,785,200 PROFIT (Dead Rising)

Which of those numbers are bigger?

Those numbers are so horribly wrong it's not even funny.

There are several execs who have said it takes about 1m sold to turn a profit on a next gen game.

Namco says 500k. And they're talking about PS3. 360 is cheaper to make games for than PS3.

And I added for cost of production in my figures.

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[QUOTE="Firelore29"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Zhengi"]

Right, Capcom was expecting to sell only 400k copies of Resident Evil. They have sold 1.02 million. That means about 700k copies of it = profit. You figure out the math there.

Yellow_Rose

Alright, let's do some math shall we:

1,020,000x 29.99 = $30,589,800 (RE4 Wii - *assuming it didn't cost Capcom one dime to port to Wii)

1,330,000 x 59.99 = $79,786,700 - 20,000,000 (cost of production) = $59,786,700 PROFIT (Lost Planet)

1,480,000 x 59.99 =$88,785,200 - 20,000,000 (cost of production) = $68,785,200 PROFIT (Dead Rising)

Which of those numbers are bigger?

Those numbers are so horribly wrong it's not even funny.

There are several execs who have said it takes about 1m sold to turn a profit on a next gen game.

Namco says 500k. And they're talking about PS3. 360 is cheaper to make games for than PS3.

And I added for cost of production in my figures.

I don't have a link for you mostly because I'm simply to lazy to go look it up but I have seen 1m as the number to turn a profit.

For the sake of arguement lets assume that's right. 500,000x59.99 = 30m not 20.

The real problem is the risk involved. You make a Wii game and it's a flop hey you lost 1m drat. You make a 360 or PS3 game and it'sa flop you just lost 20 million and that hurts the old pocket book.

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We need a new KH for the 360!
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[QUOTE="Zhengi"]

Right, Capcom was expecting to sell only 400k copies of Resident Evil. They have sold 1.02 million. That means about 700k copies of it = profit. You figure out the math there.

Yellow_Rose

Alright, let's do some math shall we:

1,020,000x 29.99 = $30,589,800 (RE4 Wii - *assuming it didn't cost Capcom one dime to port to Wii)

1,330,000 x 59.99 = $79,786,700 - 20,000,000 (cost of production) = $59,786,700 PROFIT (Lost Planet)

1,480,000 x 59.99 =$88,785,200 - 20,000,000 (cost of production) = $68,785,200 PROFIT (Dead Rising)

Which of those numbers are bigger?

You would be correct if Capcom received all 100% of the money of the price that is sold to the consumer. You still haven't included the share that the retailer takes, cost of production (making the game at 20 million is only one aspect of making the game), liscensing fees to MS, advertising, and other factors. So the final numbers that you listed are not profits.

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We need a new KH for the 360!Heil68

Your avatar annoys me =[

While I want it to be on the 360, I'd prefer a PS3 version a million times more than a Wii version. And I own a Wii.

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[QUOTE="Zhengi"] [QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Zhengi"]

So where's Dead Rising 2 or Lost Planet 2?

Isn't it funny that Capcom is reporting record profits not from Dead Rising or Lost Planet, but actually from RE 4 Wii? Seems like Tnasty11 was pretty accurate with that statement.

Yellow_Rose

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/deadrising/news.html?sid=6171126

Despite worries of a transitional slump between console generations, 2006 was a good year for much of the gaming industry. Capcom was no exception, as the publisher today released its financial results for the year ended March 31, 2007, and comfortably beat its own expectations for revenues and profits......."One of the significant accomplishments is that both Dead Rising and Lost Planet for Xbox 360 achieved sales of one million copies due to their great popularity in the US and Europe," the publisher explained in its report. "They have now joined our team of brand-name titles. ... "

And then the Financial report after that:

Capcom powers up revenues, profits

Japanese publisher reports a solid set of first-quarter financials, with operating income up 57 percent and net sales up 35 percent.

Posted Aug 3, 2007 11:26 am PT

Phoenix Wright 4 for the DS, Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition, and Monster Hunter Freedom 2 have all helped Osaka-based Capcom to overachieve against last year's first financial quarter, the company announced in its quarterly sales report.

The company's first fiscal quarter--which ended on June 30--saw net sales increase to 14.3 billion yen (approx $120 million), up 35 percent from the same period last year. Operating income increased to 2 billion yen ($17 million), up 57 percent, and net income was 1.1 billion yen ($8 million), up 40 percent.

The company amended its consolidated earnings forecast for the first six months of its financial 2007 after the good news. Net sales are now expected to be 30.4 billion yen ($256 million), up 3.6 percent on the original forecast; operating income is set for 2.4 billion yen ($20 million), up 60 percent; and net income is set for 1.4 billion yen ($11.8 million), up 80 percent.

GameSpot Link

Lost Planet and Dead Rising sold more than a million copies, and they gained profit. But titles on Japanese platforms actually earned them more profits with titles like Phoenix Wright 4, RE4 Wii, and Monster Hunter Freedom 2 earning them more profits due to the high costs of developing Lost Planet and Dead Rising.

Net income up 80%. Capcom am happy about that.

Your article is from AUGUST of this year, mine is from MAY

Those are 2 different fiscal quarters.

So how does that negate my original argument? I said that Capcom isn't reporting record profits from sales of Dead Rising and Lost Planet, but are reporting them due to RE4 Wii. I backed it up. Capcom was expecting a rise of 6% net income in the following quarter from your link. Capcom shattered that forecast when the rise of net income was actually 40% and they predict they'll reach 80% net income by the time they reach their next financial report. Seems like Capcom is profiting more from Japanese platforms.