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#51 Blackbond
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FF gameplay has been evolving over the past few years, with FF12 taking a HUGE departure from the series. Its not a stretch to say that this evolution would have continued onto the next set of games. Besides, FF13:Versus is a completely independant story that only takes place in the world of Crystallis. Theres nothing that denotes its a spin off. NOTHING.Vandalvideo

Yup you're 100% correct. Megaman Battle Network and Megaman Star Force aren't Megaman Spinoffs.

Infact neither is Final Fantasy Tactics, Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles, or Final Fantasy Fables Chocobo Dungeon.

They all have completely independent stories.

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] FF gameplay has been evolving over the past few years, with FF12 taking a HUGE departure from the series. Its not a stretch to say that this evolution would have continued onto the next set of games. Besides, FF13:Versus is a completely independant story that only takes place in the world of Crystallis. Theres nothing that denotes its a spin off. NOTHING.Blackbond

Yup you're 100% correct. Megaman Battle Network and Megaman Star Force aren't Megaman Spinoffs.

Infact neither is Final Fantasy Tactics, Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles, or Final Fantasy Fables Chocobo Dungeon.

They all have completely independent stories.

However, unlike Final Fantasy 13: Versus, some of those games do rely on their predcessors for the foundation of the game itself. Versus does not rely on FF13 in any way, shape or form. Thats the case, how can you begin to call it a spin off?
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#53 Blackbond
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However, unlike Final Fantasy 13: Versus, some of those games do rely on their predcessors for the foundation of the game itself. Versus does not rely on FF13 in any way, shape or form. Thats the case, how can you begin to call it a spin off?Vandalvideo

How does Megaman Battle Network and Star Force rely on its predessors? They are their own unique universes that have none of the same characters.

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#54 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]The rules of what a spinoff is just doesn't change because you want them to. All of a sudden things just don't change. This is how its always been.What are you going to tell me next that NFL Headcoach isn't a spinoff of Madden because they fall under the same Umbrella?Vandalvideo

Its funny that you say "the rules of what a spinoff is just doesn't change because you want them to". Shall we look at the epistemology of the word "spinoff"? In order for something to be a spinoff, you would have had to had a subsequent architecure for that something to have been built off of. Final Fantasy 13: Versus, as stated by the developers, is a completely INDEPENDANT storyline that takes place as a part of the Nova Crystallis. It is NOT dependant on FF13, which is only another sub section of Nova Crsyallis. If you wan't to be completely correct in your terminology, then both FF13 and Versus are both "spin offs", because its NOVA CRYSTALLIS that is providing the background for both games.

Yes because you were elected to have the power to change rules and definations that have been put in place for god knows how long now? And all of a sudden because you find it convientant to your own likings you want them to change. Yeah well change doesn't just happen because you want it too.

You're the guy that tried to tell use that all the Final Fantasy's take place in the same damn Universe :|

Um did you not read the dev note I posted earlier?

So by your logic Megaman Star Force and Battle Network aren't spinoffs because they have their own indepenant story lines. This is a Action RPG with TPS Elements in such regards as Dirge of Cerebrus and you're trying to not pass this off as a spinoff?

Heh you know what. If thats how you want it. Go right ahead and keep it lol. I'm going to work out. If it helps you sleep better then by all means.

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#55 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]However, unlike Final Fantasy 13: Versus, some of those games do rely on their predcessors for the foundation of the game itself. Versus does not rely on FF13 in any way, shape or form. Thats the case, how can you begin to call it a spin off?Blackbond

How does Megaman Battle Network and Star Force rely on its predessors? They are their own unique universes that have none of the same characters.

I had some* of those games, as in Tactics relies on the events of FF7 in order to explain the presence of Cloud in the game. (We had al ong conversation about that where I pointed out my theories for why Cloud was there). They point aside, if you want to call FF13: Versus a spinoff you need to answer one question: In what way does Versus rely on 13? Keep in mind that its Nova Crystallis that built the world that all three games take place in. Not to mention that the developer stated the stories are totally independant, and in no way do the events in Versus rely on 13. Answer that question and you can call it a spin off.
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#56 Vandalvideo
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Yes because you were elected to have the power to change rules and definations that have been put in place for god knows how long now? And all of a sudden because you find it convientant to your own likings you want them to change. Yeah well change doesn't just happen because you want it too.Blackbond
I'm not changing any definitions at all. I'm using the root of the word spin off, which is built upon a clear and concise definition which requires a sub structure for something to be built off of in order for it to be called a "spin off".
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#57 BatmanBegins24
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I bought a PS3 around December 2006 or January 2007. Just a couple of months after launch. And I only own 4 Boxed games for it: Resistance: Fall of Man, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Uncharted: Drakes Fortune, and Metal Gear Solid 4. I am glad that FF Versus XIII is going to be added to that list. While on the other hand, I own around 30-40 boxed non arcade games for the 360. And about 10 for the Wii (which I got at launch). The PS3 is great, it just needs more exclusives games. I always get multiplat games for the 360 because of achievement points and my Friends list.

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#58 Shafftehr
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So now the Cows are the ones stuck with the Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles equivalent, eh? Time for them to rejoice.
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#59 portej
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okay. Doesn't undo the damage caused. not in the slightest.Dreams-Visions

What damage?

Not everyone thinks that FFXIII going multi-platform is a bad thing, and this is coming from someone who only owns a Playstation 3. Stop making an ass of yourself by making stupid posts like this.

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]okay. Doesn't undo the damage caused. not in the slightest.portej

What damage?

Not everyone thinks that FFXIII going multi-platform is a bad thing, and this is coming from someone who only owns a Playstation 3. Stop making an ass of yourself by making stupid posts like this.

But in system wars tradition it is. lol.

In reality a game going multiplatform is only a good thing, but not here massive lulz

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  • Square Enix's grandiose plans for a Final Fantasy XIII three-way appear to be a bit stalled. The action oriented spin-off known as Final Fantasy Versus XIIImay be coming even later than expected
  • E3 08: Final Fantasy Versus XIII still a PS3 exclusive
    Square Enix exec confirms that FFXIII spin-off will not be joining fellow RPG in moving to Xbox 360
  • It seems the demands of the forthcoming Final Fantasy XIII are put a strain on resources at Square Enix as news reaches us that work on the action orientated spin off Final Fantasy Versus XIII has been paused in favour of its parent game.
  • Some CG magic from the forthcomingspin-off, courtesy of the creators of Kingdom Hearts.
  • After the shocking news from Microsoft's E3 press conference that Final Fantasy XIII will be arriving on both Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 when it makes it debut outside Japan. Many wondered what if the XIII spin-off "Versus XIII" would be getting the Multiplatform treatment?

I really have nothing else to say. If you want to keep going at it I won't stop you.

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#62 Toriko42
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FFXIII is the only one that ever mattered to me to be honest, thats the best one
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#63 Gamerman12362
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FFXIII is the only one that ever mattered to me to be honest, thats the best oneToriko42

FF13 is definately the game most people want, but that's not to say Versus will suck. But I would be suprised if 13 didn't get AAA and I'd would expect Versus to get AA.

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#64 -Jashan-
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yeye this looks better that 13 imo :D
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#65 -Jashan-
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u cant go wrong with a game that has a maybach exelero in it
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#66 hayato_
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So....um

How about that new game Normura is developing.

I really like the concept of Versus XIII "fantasy based on reality". Just means I'll get both. AAA for both.

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#67 -Jashan-
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So....um

How about that new game Normura is developing.

I really like the concept of Versus XIII "fantasy based on reality". Just means I'll get both. AAA for both.

hayato_

versus feels like ff8

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#68 Mamba_Negra
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that looks kinda emo, ME no likes

wheres the screenshots of the real FFXIII at?? please post from the 360 version.

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I doubt its going to stay that way, if Squeenix see success with FFXIII on 360, why not give their next game a boost?
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#70 hayato_
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[QUOTE="hayato_"]

So....um

How about that new game Normura is developing.

I really like the concept of Versus XIII "fantasy based on reality". Just means I'll get both. AAA for both.

-Jashan-

versus feels like ff8

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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"][QUOTE="ZenesisX"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

[QUOTE="thrones"]Also, Nomura is a massive Sony fanboy so that's probably part of the reason it's staying exclusive :PZenesisX

What does that mean for KH3 then?

Im sorry but your sig is too funny:lol: as for KH3, i dont know, im scared it might lose its exclusivity to the 360. it wont take much since like they say, Money talks and BS walks:?

I figured I could bash Nintendo in a thread and risk getting modded, or just make fun of them in my sig. I went the safer route. :P

My current thoughts on KH3 is it'll be a PS3/360 multiplat or Wii exclusive.

yeah its funny thats for sure:P but it probably would have been funnier if it wasnt true:?

and thats a shame on KH3, though its not official, i get the feeling Microsoft is going to want their hands on it.

What the hell is wrong with that? The more people that get to enjoy it, the better. I'll never understand you fanboys and your pathetic love for a piece of hardware...

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#72 ejstrup
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okay. Doesn't undo the damage caused. not in the slightest.Dreams-Visions

indeed.. a few days ago both games were exclusive

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Good, I'm very excited for Versus...
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#74 WilliamRLBaker
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wasn't ff13 supposed to be exclusive? and we see how that went?

If ff13 360 sells well you can be damn sure Vesus will come to 360 as well.

either way i wont be geting the games i hate final fantasy now.

P.S: why do all final fantasy characters now look like japanese punk rock yakuza gang members?

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ms has just hit sony where it hurts in it's AAA exclusives :cry:
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I get to play both of them :)

3rd party exlusives are becoming a thing of the past, obviously. The faster the better i say.

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#77 thrones
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that looks kinda emo, ME no likes

wheres the screenshots of the real FFXIII at?? please post from the 360 version.

Mamba_Negra

1) No gameplay out yet

2) The Xbox 360 version doesn't exist yet.

The Square Enix schedule is to port it to Xbox 360 and world wide localisation AFTER they finish the PS3 version for Japan.

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#78 flatline711
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I get to play both of them :)

3rd party exlusives are becoming a thing of the past, obviously. The faster the better i say.

Broman6015

Exactly. Those with both the 360 and PS3 are the real winners in this situation -high five- :D

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thats terrible it should be on 360
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  • Square Enix's grandiose plans for a Final Fantasy XIII three-way appear to be a bit stalled. The action oriented spin-off known as Final Fantasy Versus XIIImay be coming even later than expected
  • E3 08: Final Fantasy Versus XIII still a PS3 exclusive
    Square Enix exec confirms that FFXIII spin-off will not be joining fellow RPG in moving to Xbox 360
  • It seems the demands of the forthcoming Final Fantasy XIII are put a strain on resources at Square Enix as news reaches us that work on the action orientated spin off Final Fantasy Versus XIII has been paused in favour of its parent game.
  • Some CG magic from the forthcomingspin-off, courtesy of the creators of Kingdom Hearts.
  • After the shocking news from Microsoft's E3 press conference that Final Fantasy XIII will be arriving on both Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 when it makes it debut outside Japan. Many wondered what if the XIII spin-off "Versus XIII" would be getting the Multiplatform treatment?

I really have nothing else to say. If you want to keep going at it I won't stop you.

Blackbond

So what, who cares if its a spinoff its a new a diffrent game. If the game is fun what diffrence does it make if its a spinoff or not?

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[QUOTE="Mamba_Negra"]

that looks kinda emo, ME no likes

wheres the screenshots of the real FFXIII at?? please post from the 360 version.

thrones

1) No gameplay out yet

2) The Xbox 360 version doesn't exist yet.

The Square Enix schedule is to port it to Xbox 360 and world wide localisation AFTER they finish the PS3 version for Japan.

that is based on a small websites speculation.

All we know so far is that FF13 will have a worldwide release and will release simultaneously on the ps3 and xbox. So I doubt that. In Europe and NA at least.

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#82 OmegaTau
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okay. Doesn't undo the damage caused. not in the slightest.Dreams-Visions

there no damage done

guess what sku going to be offshelves becuase of ff13

the japanese ps3

xbox360 does not scream play ff13 and ff13 does not scream buy an xbox 360 trust me the fanboys of xbox dont fit the demagraphics of final fantasy and it most likely be 2011 when it comes out took ff12 forever to come out.

and we know xbox 360 will be killed because xbox720 will be introduced

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#83 CTUDude
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One Goal Spirit is code for One Winged Angel which is code for FFVII remake.
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#84 Shafftehr
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One Goal Spirit is code for One Winged Angel which is code for FFVII remake.CTUDude


Is this what Cows hope for? A remake of a game from years ago? Don't you want NEW games? And if you want to play that old game, why not just play it, and not waste tremendous resources from a big developer that could be working on bringing you new games?
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#85 finalfantasy94
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meh, u never know. -GhostMLD-

For once I agree with you. After FF13. I just dont know anymore.

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[QUOTE="CTUDude"]One Goal Spirit is code for One Winged Angel which is code for FFVII remake.Shafftehr


Is this what Cows hope for? A remake of a game from years ago? Don't you want NEW games? And if you want to play that old game, why not just play it, and not waste tremendous resources from a big developer that could be working on bringing you new games?

Because their new games of late have not been as great as their previous ones. They've been remaking all the others like I-IV so why not remake possibly the greatest seller of them all.

The jump to Xbox 360 was for profit, and what other game in their line up could bring more money than FFVII?

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#87 Shafftehr
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[QUOTE="Shafftehr"][QUOTE="CTUDude"]One Goal Spirit is code for One Winged Angel which is code for FFVII remake.CTUDude



Is this what Cows hope for? A remake of a game from years ago? Don't you want NEW games? And if you want to play that old game, why not just play it, and not waste tremendous resources from a big developer that could be working on bringing you new games?

Because their new games of late have not been as great as their previous ones. They've been remaking all the others like I-IV so why not remake possibly the greatest seller of them all.

The jump to Xbox 360 was for profit, and what other game in their line up could bring more money than FFVII?



So... Square sucks now, so you want them to just remake old games, huh? Though, I expected Cows to start saying this after the change.
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I just don't believe anything that Square Enix says now.
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[QUOTE="CTUDude"]

[QUOTE="Shafftehr"][QUOTE="CTUDude"]One Goal Spirit is code for One Winged Angel which is code for FFVII remake.Shafftehr



Is this what Cows hope for? A remake of a game from years ago? Don't you want NEW games? And if you want to play that old game, why not just play it, and not waste tremendous resources from a big developer that could be working on bringing you new games?

Because their new games of late have not been as great as their previous ones. They've been remaking all the others like I-IV so why not remake possibly the greatest seller of them all.

The jump to Xbox 360 was for profit, and what other game in their line up could bring more money than FFVII?



So... Square sucks now, so you want them to just remake old games, huh? Though, I expected Cows to start saying this after the change.

I never said Square sucks, I just said their newer games haven't been as good as the past. I found XII farless enjoyable than X. Change or no change I still found the most recent Square games not to the calibur as the previous ones.

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[QUOTE="Shafftehr"][QUOTE="CTUDude"]One Goal Spirit is code for One Winged Angel which is code for FFVII remake.CTUDude



Is this what Cows hope for? A remake of a game from years ago? Don't you want NEW games? And if you want to play that old game, why not just play it, and not waste tremendous resources from a big developer that could be working on bringing you new games?

Because their new games of late have not been as great as their previous ones. They've been remaking all the others like I-IV so why not remake possibly the greatest seller of them all.

The jump to Xbox 360 was for profit, and what other game in their line up could bring more money than FFVII?

FF13 > FF7. And that's coming from someone whose favorite game of all time is FF7. You know, it's newer and I haven't experienced it, I'd rather play that. And besides, FF13 is fanservice to FF7. The art **** the characters (don't you notice similarities between cloud and lighting? not just talking about names). Cancoon is is a reverse midgar.

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[QUOTE="CTUDude"]

[QUOTE="Shafftehr"][QUOTE="CTUDude"]One Goal Spirit is code for One Winged Angel which is code for FFVII remake.Gamerman12362



Is this what Cows hope for? A remake of a game from years ago? Don't you want NEW games? And if you want to play that old game, why not just play it, and not waste tremendous resources from a big developer that could be working on bringing you new games?

Because their new games of late have not been as great as their previous ones. They've been remaking all the others like I-IV so why not remake possibly the greatest seller of them all.

The jump to Xbox 360 was for profit, and what other game in their line up could bring more money than FFVII?

FF13 > FF7. And that's coming from someone whose favorite game of all time is FF7. You know, it's newer and I haven't experienced it, I'd rather play that. And besides, FF13 is fanservice to FF7. The art **** the characters (don't you notice similarities between cloud and lighting? not just talking about names). Cancoon is is a reverse midgar.

I was comparing the ones that Square has already released not XIII... I find XIII to be interesting because it has a futuristic flow to it, the one dislike about XII that I had was the whole European set up. Also in Versus one of the characters looks like Sasuke from Naruto =/

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#92 sakura_Ex
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SE is the new EA,so I wouldn't trust them when it comes to something being exclusive.

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#93 leadernator
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Let me guess this game can not run on the 360 like FF13 :lol:

If anyone thinks this game will not go to the 360 if FF13 sells well is crazy.

rybe1025

that's the sad part about it. It wouldn't have been possible on 360 if it remained PS3 exclusive. Ever wonder why we STILL hardly

know anything about the game? or why we are getting ANOTHER recycled trailer this year?

360 will obviously hinder FFXIII's development... just like it did with GTAIV and DMC4 :P

I also wouldn't write off FFvXIII yet... THE WORLD ENDS WITH YOU for the DS ended up AAA, remember? oh, and so did CRISIS CORE, which is another one of Nomura's games. Kingdom Hearts is also basically a Nomura series.

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#95 blazinpuertoroc
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OH MY GOD THE MAIN GUY LOOKS SO BADASS!!! Tetsuya nomura is the man. FFXIII is still exclusive on ps3 in japan where it will sell most soo ps3 will still make huge gains
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OH MY GOD THE MAIN GUY LOOKS SO BADASS!!! Tetsuya nomura is the man. FFXIII is still exclusive on ps3 in japan where it will sell most soo ps3 will still make huge gainsblazinpuertoroc

umm if you can play the game on another console its not exclusive

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#97 thrones
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[QUOTE="blazinpuertoroc"]OH MY GOD THE MAIN GUY LOOKS SO BADASS!!! Tetsuya nomura is the man. FFXIII is still exclusive on ps3 in japan where it will sell most soo ps3 will still make huge gainsParadiddleFill

umm if you can play the game on another console its not exclusive

He said exclusive in Japan, which is true.
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[QUOTE="blazinpuertoroc"]OH MY GOD THE MAIN GUY LOOKS SO BADASS!!! Tetsuya nomura is the man. FFXIII is still exclusive on ps3 in japan where it will sell most soo ps3 will still make huge gainsParadiddleFill

umm if you can play the game on another console its not exclusive

notice i said in japan...ffxiii will push millions of units in japan alone and once it releases square realizes sony got it in them, then theyll start pushing more RPGS on the console exclusively...
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#99 blazinpuertoroc
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Let me guess this game can not run on the 360 like FF13 :lol:

If anyone thinks this game will not go to the 360 if FF13 sells well is crazy.

leadernator

that's the sad part about it. It wouldn't have been possible on 360 if it remained PS3 exclusive. Ever wonder why we STILL hardly

know anything about the game? or why we are getting ANOTHER recycled trailer this year?

360 will obviously hinder FFXIII's development... just like it did with GTAIV and DMC4 :P

I also wouldn't write off FFvXIII yet... THE WORLD ENDS WITH YOU for the DS ended up AAA, remember? oh, and so did CRISIS CORE, which is another one of Nomura's games. Kingdom Hearts is also basically a Nomura series.

Crisis core was NOT made by nomuras team...He just worked on the character designs because there all his characters.
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[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]thrones

PS3 first, WITH THE 360 IN MIND. Because of that, they obviously will not be pushing the PS3 to its limits. Look at the trailers, we've got nothing new besides a few CGI clips... SINCE 2006 :| that gameplay segment in the tailer has always been there all these years.

When developers say they want both versions exactly the same... you know we'll get less quality than its initial potential.