Square Enix Wants Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII to 'Beat Skyrim'

Lightning gonna take an arrow to the knee.

It's not hard to beat Skyrim. I dislike this kind of mentality though. :l

Jiggly boobs and cat ears > Skyrim

yokofox33

[QUOTE="famicommander"]Skyrim blows so they're not setting the bar very high, but then again every mainline FF game since (and including) X has sucked ass too.Aidenfury19

X had good atmosphere and great music at points, but it was pretty clear they were already well on their way to losing the plot entirely.

[QUOTE="LustForSoul"]All they have to do is make a big world with shallow quests and shallow combat mechanics. Maybe he meant to beat Skyrim sales.Crossel777

Oh so they want to beat a last gen open world rpg from 2011 designed to run on 2005 tech? Really setting the bar high there SE...Magescrew

You think Lightning returns is next gen?

[QUOTE="Magescrew"]Oh so they want to beat a last gen open world rpg from 2011 designed to run on 2005 tech? Really setting the bar high there SE...SexyJazzCat

You think Lightning returns is next gen?

Lightning Returns just looks like another rush job like FFXIII-2, they're probably still recycling all the content they cut out the first FFXIII.   It hasn't had nearly as much man power, time and money thrown at it as Final Fantasy XV.  As much as I found Skyrim to be boring as hell, it probably did take a lot of time to make.   If the quests in FFXIII-2 are anything to go by, this game is going to make Skyrim look like the best RPG ever in comparisons.   FFXIII-2 had the shittiest, most uninteresting, poorly voice acted sidequests ever along with a boring convoluted time travel story to boot.

Lightning Returns just looks like another rush job like FFXIII-2, they're probably still recycling all the content they cut out the first FFXIII.   It hasn't had nearly as much man power, time and money thrown at it as Final Fantasy XV.  As much as I found Skyrim to be boring as hell, it probably did take a lot of time to make.

Crossel777

hating on what's popular. :(

[QUOTE="Aidenfury19"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"]Skyrim blows so they're not setting the bar very high, but then again every mainline FF game since (and including) X has sucked ass too.Joedgabe

X had good atmosphere and great music at points, but it was pretty clear they were already well on their way to losing the plot entirely.

I thought the atmosphere was horrible too... too much teenage drama. FF used to be adult characters going out of their way to save the world, not childish kids in their puberty. Thought in FF9 they was teenagers too, it seemed like that was just an age because their characters and the responsibility they all had seemed to match that of a more mature figure.

Lightning Returns just looks like another rush job like FFXIII-2, they're probably still recycling all the content they cut out the first FFXIII.   It hasn't had nearly as much man power, time and money thrown at it as Final Fantasy XV.  As much as I found Skyrim to be boring as hell, it probably did take a lot of time to make.   If the quests in FFXIII-2 are anything to go by, this game is going to make Skyrim look like the best RPG ever in comparisons.   FFXIII-2 had the shittiest, most uninteresting, poorly voice acted sidequests ever along with a boring convoluted time travel story to boot.

Crossel777

You think Skyrim doesnt recycle content? Why do you think we saw so many sequels this gen? So developers wouldnt have to rebuild an entire game from the ground up with these bloated development costs. I dont care if Lightning Returns lacks a 50 million dollar development budget,  I've seen plenty of expensive AAA games turn out to be crap and ive seen dirt cheap indie games winning tons of awards, a big development budget doesnt mean anything.

All i care about is how fun the game is, everything i've seen about the game looks fun, they completely rebuilt the combat system and made it more action based, they are making it more open, they are putting new and interesting gameplay mechanics into the game, its not going to sell 5 million copies, its not going to have a 90 metacritic score, but its going to fun to play and thats all i care about.

Square Enix stupdity comes entirely from the top , where the CEO and his crew are, they have no idea how to run this company and they are still around because of the sheer talent of their developers and strong IPs.

Lightning Returns just looks like another rush job like FFXIII-2, they're probably still recycling all the content they cut out the first FFXIII.   It hasn't had nearly as much man power, time and money thrown at it as Final Fantasy XV.  As much as I found Skyrim to be boring as hell, it probably did take a lot of time to make.   If the quests in FFXIII-2 are anything to go by, this game is going to make Skyrim look like the best RPG ever in comparisons.   FFXIII-2 had the shittiest, most uninteresting, poorly voice acted sidequests ever along with a boring convoluted time travel story to boot.

Crossel777

It's not that hard to beat Skyrim.  That game is total crap.  Objectively speaking of course, I'd never tell anyone THEY HAVE TO THINK that Skyrim is bad.  I'm simply telling them that it is a filthy piece of shit.

ff is pretty much dead to me now , its a shame i used to love the series, im excited for more tales games now along with the shin megami tensai series :)

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="rjdofu"]

http://gamingbolt.com/square-enix-wants-lightning-returns-final-fantasy-xiii-to-beat-skyrim

[quote=""]Umeda stated that, The wilderness is designed with a natural open world style of play in mind. Toriyamas first instruction was beat Skyrim! That may be a tall order with the resources on hand, but as this is FF we decided it might be best to approach it by letting you run about on a chocobo. Also, although there is lots of freedom in the wilderness, there is only one goal but with many paths to accomplishing it.Capitan_Kid

lol

You think Skyrim doesnt recycle content? 

crimsonman1245

Skyrim had a completely different game engine to that of Oblivion.  It didn't recycle anything in terms of content.   It was made from the ground up.  

ff is pretty much dead to me now , its a shame i used to love the series, im excited for more tales games now along with the shin megami tensai series :)

Yrkoon99

Lol FFXIII sold off brand loyalty alone.  Then FFXIII-2 came out and didn't sell nearly as much.   It's pretty obvious about 4 million people didn't want to be apart of this shitfest of a series to even bother buying the sequel.   Wont surprise me if Lightning Returns sells even less than FFXIII-2.   Unless it some how turns out to be a good game.  Highly unlikely. 

I must be a vile piece of shit with no taste for liking Skyrim. All I ever hear is how shitty it is. :?Xaero_Gravity

I really enjoyed FF13. It's the only game that I've bothered to get every achievement on thus far. FF13-2 is another story though. The game never enticed me enough to even finish it. Does anyone know if to follow Lightning Returns' story that I would need to know FF13-2's story? That would have some influence if I buy this game or not.

I must be a vile piece of shit with no taste for liking Skyrim. All I ever hear is how shitty it is. :?Xaero_Gravity

It's true. It's best for you to just stop gaming entirely. Sell all your stuff and invest in another hobby, you casual.

[QUOTE="Amvis"]

I really enjoyed FF13. It's the only game that I've bothered to get every achievement on thus far. FF13-2 is another story though. The game never enticed me enough to even finish it. Does anyone know if to follow Lightning Returns' story that I would need to know FF13-2's story? That would have some influence if I buy this game or not.

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No.

[QUOTE="Aidenfury19"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"]Skyrim blows so they're not setting the bar very high, but then again every mainline FF game since (and including) X has sucked ass too.Joedgabe

X had good atmosphere and great music at points, but it was pretty clear they were already well on their way to losing the plot entirely.

I thought the atmosphere was horrible too... too much teenage drama. FF used to be adult characters going out of their way to save the world, not childish kids in their puberty. Thought in FF9 they was teenagers too, it seemed like that was just an age because their characters and the responsibility they all had seemed to match that of a more mature figure.

What teenage drama? Tidus disliking his father? 

Anyway, there's only one true teenager in the party and that is Rikku. Tidus and Yuna are young adults while Auron, Lulu, Wakka, and Kimhari are completely adults. 

I mean, go ahead and dislike the game, but "childish kids in their puberty" is a ridiculously dumb criticism. 

FF 15 won't even be turn based anymore.

Devs REEAALLLY need to stop this whole Skyrim comparison thing

[QUOTE="Aidenfury19"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"]Skyrim blows so they're not setting the bar very high, but then again every mainline FF game since (and including) X has sucked ass too.famicommander

X had good atmosphere and great music at points, but it was pretty clear they were already well on their way to losing the plot entirely.

When he says atmosphere, I think he's talking about the environments, which are undeniably atmospheric. Thunder Plains, Zanarkand Ruins, Maccalania Forest, Besaid, etc.

[QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

You think Skyrim doesnt recycle content? 

Crossel777

Skyrim had a completely different game engine to that of Oblivion.  It didn't recycle anything in terms of content.   It was made from the ground up.  

The only thing they can beat skyrim in is graphics and possibly a better battle system, less glitches and gamecrashes. Still won't make it a good game.

Everything else, Skyrim wins.

[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="Aidenfury19"]

X had good atmosphere and great music at points, but it was pretty clear they were already well on their way to losing the plot entirely.

GreySeal9

When he says atmosphere, I think he's talking about the environments, which are undeniably atmospheric. Thunder Plains, Zanarkand Ruins, Maccalania Forest, Besaid, etc.

Yeah, I liked the setting and world in FFX as well. It did have some great looking areas.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"] The music is fine, but the atmosphere is terrible. The character design, voicework, dialog, and story are borderline insufferable. The battle system is watered down and the world is almost completely linear with few sidequests. It's just not a Final Fantasy game.DJ-Lafleur

When he says atmosphere, I think he's talking about the environments, which are undeniably atmospheric. Thunder Plains, Zanarkand Ruins, Maccalania Forest, Besaid, etc.

Yeah, I liked the setting and world in FFX as well. It did have some great looking areas.

Tidus destroyed everything great about FFX, seriously he's probably the most whiny ***** in gaming history. Sucks cause the battle system was good, Auron and Lulu were amazing characters (Lulu and her...assets nom nom).

Devs REEAALLLY need to stop this whole Skyrim comparison thing

seanmcloughlin

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Devs REEAALLLY need to stop this whole Skyrim comparison thing

Crossel777

FF 15 won't even be turn based anymore.

parkurtommo

Thank god, right?

[QUOTE="Crossel777"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Devs REEAALLLY need to stop this whole Skyrim comparison thing

princeofshapeir

They said that TW3 is 20% bigger than Skyrim as some sort of wow factor. 

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="Crossel777"] Get used to it, both The Witcher 3 devs and Dragon Age 3 devs are using Skyrim as inspiration in some form.seanmcloughlin

They said that TW3 is 20% bigger than Skyrim as some sort of wow factor. 

[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

When he says atmosphere, I think he's talking about the environments, which are undeniably atmospheric. Thunder Plains, Zanarkand Ruins, Maccalania Forest, Besaid, etc.

Ballroompirate

Yeah, I liked the setting and world in FFX as well. It did have some great looking areas.

Tidus destroyed everything great about FFX, seriously he's probably the most whiny ***** in gaming history. Sucks cause the battle system was good, Auron and Lulu were amazing characters (Lulu and her...assets nom nom).

I wouldn't say Tidus ruined everything else in FFX, but I do wish Square could have handled how Tidus coped with his daddy issues better. That is really my only complaint with him...well, that and his silly character design.

[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

Yeah, I liked the setting and world in FFX as well. It did have some great looking areas.

DJ-Lafleur

Tidus destroyed everything great about FFX, seriously he's probably the most whiny ***** in gaming history. Sucks cause the battle system was good, Auron and Lulu were amazing characters (Lulu and her...assets nom nom).

I wouldn't say Tidus ruined everything else in FFX, but I do wish Square could have handled how Tidus coped with his daddy issues better. That is really my only complaint with him...well, that and his silly character design.

His character design was pretty bad, same with his issues on dealing with his dad seriously made me hate the game.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="Crossel777"] Get used to it, both The Witcher 3 devs and Dragon Age 3 devs are using Skyrim as inspiration in some form.seanmcloughlin

They said that TW3 is 20% bigger than Skyrim as some sort of wow factor. 

Well, considering every individual piece of content from either of the Witcher games is better than any individual piece of content than any of the Elder Scrolls games, saying that you now have a game in that series that's got 20% more to see and do than the crappy Skyrim is like saying, "Best.  Game.  Ever."

Not hard to do.bbkkristian

[QUOTE="Xaero_Gravity"]I must be a vile piece of shit with no taste for liking Skyrim. All I ever hear is how shitty it is. :?ChubbyGuy40

It's true. It's best for you to just stop gaming entirely. Sell all your stuff and invest in another hobby, you casual.

[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

FF 15 won't even be turn based anymore.

SexyJazzCat

Thank god, right?

This game will smash skyrim to pieces

This game will smash skyrim to pieces

Sweenix

It'll be incredibly difficult, because A: It's an excellent RPG on its own, and B: Bethesda put a LOT of effort on the game's moddability.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="Xaero_Gravity"]I must be a vile piece of shit with no taste for liking Skyrim. All I ever hear is how shitty it is. :?parkurtommo

It's true. It's best for you to just stop gaming entirely. Sell all your stuff and invest in another hobby, you casual.

I'm working on converting them to Dota 2. They just don't know it yet. It's all of the master plan you see...