Square unveils next Generation graphics engine

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i know its only a tech demo but if someone told me it was a game i would have to look twice. they also claim they can reduce next gen dev costs by 30%. they are calling it Luminous and it's running on high spec windows DX11 kit. Cryengine3, ID tech 5, UE3.9 who?

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I definitely dont buy that a game will look this good running in a full blown environment with AI at 60 (or even 30) FPS, BUT it is a nice tech demo, and at least it shows something. It would be crazy if they could make a game for PC that looked this good.

I definitely dont buy that a game will look this good running in a full blown environment with AI at 60 (or even 30) FPS, BUT it is a nice tech demo, and at least it shows something. It would be crazy if they could make a game for PC that looked this good.

NaveedLife

there's a change in the winds says i, just think of what a top of the line pc can do in about 3-4 years, even the next gen consoles will pull some of this stuff. interesting times ahead and square seems to be the only japanese company out there trying to push the graphics boundaries for which too long the west has dominated.

Too bad it won't be used in any good games.

Also it hardly matters what kind of detail they can get out of it when all it's rendering is a tiny corridor with nothing in it.

I think they are using some of this engine in FFV13, I recall something along those linesDiviniuz

i thought that they were only using the White engine with the crystal tools

Also it hardly matters what kind of detail they can get out of it when all it's rendering is a tiny corridor with nothing in it.

theuncharted34

What a way to show off a new engine rendering in real time, an empty corridor.xxmatt125xx

That's the point of a tech demo. Show off the engine in a way that makes it look way better than it will ever look in game.

Too bad it won't be used in any good games.

Also it hardly matters what kind of detail they can get out of it when all it's rendering is a tiny corridor with nothing in it.

theuncharted34

yea not the best choice of local, it looks like some run down apartment complex, maybe a new FEAR game can use this

anybody got anymore footage from the presentation besides the corridor. i want to see some colors, it doesn't seem like square's style at all.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

Also it hardly matters what kind of detail they can get out of it when all it's rendering is a tiny corridor with nothing in it.

Phoenix534

What a way to show off a new engine rendering in real time, an empty corridor.xxmatt125xx

That's the point of a tech demo. Show off the engine in a way that makes it look way better than it will ever look in game.

This is the only tech demo i've seen that is literally just one tiny corridor with no effects, no enemies, ect.

Usually tech demo's are much longer and have decent content. Samaritan demo?

What a way to show off a new engine rendering in real time, an empty corridor.xxmatt125xx

sure it was bland....but it showed off actual real time lighting when he went into the dark

Looks like an advanced source engine. I'd like to see how it does ground (bumpy) textures and complex objects like characters and vegetation.

Looks about as exciting as aSquare Enix game.

Boy they sure can make a good looking empty hallway, with nothing going on.... and it only took a High End PC to run it. Good Work SE!

Unreal Engine tech demois literally 100 times more impressive

By the way, Luminous Studio will be compatible with any hardware that can handle programmable shaders. It will work, apparently, on PS3 and Xbox 360. (http://andriasang.com/comxrx/)

the next generation of games will be awesome in the graphics department.

news.teamxbox.com/xbox/24918/Squares-Next-Generation-Engine-Demod/

i know its only a tech demo but if someone told me it was a game i would have to look twice. they also claim they can reduce next gen dev costs by 30%. they are calling it Luminous and it's running on high spec windows DX11 kit. Cryengine3, ID tech 5, UE3.9 who?

discuss

GotNugz

Also, I like the stle of UE still, it give games a... gamelike finish :D, instead of being perfectly realistic.

Are you honestly telling me that's just not just some guy walking down a corridor and filming?MushroomWig

great, now the backgrounds can look awesome as j-dev puts those horrid stiff toons roboting their way around them.

Lol! The tech demo is runnign on a PC with DX 11.

So Nvidia was right, after all. It's purely consoles holding back what could be a next engine NOW, on PC.

Lol! The tech demo is runnign on a PC with DX 11.

So Nvidia was right, after all. It's purely consoles holding back what could be a next engine NOW, on PC.

Kinthalis

Why is everyone wowed by a empty corridor?

I'm really sorry, but this looks nothing like UE3.

news.teamxbox.com/xbox/24918/Squares-Next-Generation-Engine-Demod/

i know its only a tech demo but if someone told me it was a game i would have to look twice. they also claim they can reduce next gen dev costs by 30%. they are calling it Luminous and it's running on high spec windows DX11 kit. Cryengine3, ID tech 5, UE3.9 who?

discuss

GotNugz

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

Lol! The tech demo is runnign on a PC with DX 11.

So Nvidia was right, after all. It's purely consoles holding back what could be a next engine NOW, on PC.

Inconsistancy

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

Lol! The tech demo is runnign on a PC with DX 11.

So Nvidia was right, after all. It's purely consoles holding back what could be a next engine NOW, on PC.

AzatiS

"If I take a picture and after this I create the same objects in a game with the right materials, I can achieve a rendering that is very close to the picture because I'm using the physical parameters of the real world." - Square Enix technology officer Jullien Merceon.

tldr, I took refrence from real world objects and made them. I still dont get the big deal xD.

tech demo's by console devs/publishers always turn out a load of bull

it seems only PC devs actually show what can be done

Lol! The tech demo is runnign on a PC with DX 11.

So Nvidia was right, after all. It's purely consoles holding back what could be a next engine NOW, on PC.

Kinthalis

yeah because every PC gamer has a high end rig right?

all Blizzard games sell millions because they are exclusive to DX11

looks like real-life... though the crappy quality helps with that lol...

That was really nothing at all. I will be impressed when they actually put it in a game. If they can make an open world as big as Skyrim and still look that good then I will be impressed.

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

Lol! The tech demo is runnign on a PC with DX 11.

So Nvidia was right, after all. It's purely consoles holding back what could be a next engine NOW, on PC.

AzatiS

He does have a point. There are millions of PC gamers who buy a decent amoutn of games, and support their platform, but there are also several million more than do WOW and won't even give any other games a shot, or worse, pirate their games.

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

Lol! The tech demo is runnign on a PC with DX 11.

So Nvidia was right, after all. It's purely consoles holding back what could be a next engine NOW, on PC.

HaloinventedFPS

yeah because every PC gamer has a high end rig right?

all Blizzard games sell millions because they are exclusive to DX11

Well, you're right, only about 5% of the market would have the rig to play somehting liek the tech demo.

But it's early yet. I'm sure they haven't had time to properly tune performance. And we don't relaly know the specs of the system either. It might be runnign on a workstation, or a GTX 460. Who knows!

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

Lol! The tech demo is runnign on a PC with DX 11.

So Nvidia was right, after all. It's purely consoles holding back what could be a next engine NOW, on PC.

Kinthalis

yeah because every PC gamer has a high end rig right?

all Blizzard games sell millions because they are exclusive to DX11

Well, you're right, only about 5% of the market would have the rig to play somehting liek the tech demo.

But it's early yet. I'm sure they haven't had time to properly tune performance. And we don't relaly know the specs of the system either. It might be runnign on a workstation, or a GTX 460. Who knows!

next gen wont look much better than the unreal tech demo we saw this year

and Crysis 2 DX11 allready looks close to that, if not better

what SE showed was bull

What a way to show off a new engine rendering in real time, an empty corridor.xxmatt125xx

Actually that is quite brilliant. At first glance, and even after examining, it looked so real it was hard to tell. It was all about the lighting. The lighting was so damn realistic it was scary.

Also it is something that you would find in real life. An empty, kind of dirty hallway leading to an undground area. In real life, there aren't boxes and bushes everywhere like there are in video games.

I dont get it.