Square-Enix picks Nintendo, and Japanese Sales Figures

Ok, yesterday I was temporarily banned, and saw a couple of things I wanted to comment on, but couldn't.

First, this week in Japan's sales figures, that joeychew posted, a poster that I actually like, even if he is a bit of a cow in the handheld department.

joey posted the official MC numbers this week, making it seem as though the PSP outsold the Wii. It didn't necessarily, as these are the numbers from Famitsu, the other source, showing the Wii out in front by a lot:(excuse the format)

Famitsu http://www.vgchartz.com/news/news.php?id=766

Wii 243000

DSL 312000

PS3 70000

PS2 35000

PSP 189000

360 13000

Not to mention that 41 of the top 50 games are on Nintendo platforms, and 7 of the top 10 games are actually developed by Nintendo.

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Next, is Wada Yoichis, of Square Enix saying the following:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=226627

Square Enix in 2008

About Microsoft
- If there is a merrit cooperating with Microsoft we will do this. We might give some projects to separate studios and make games for the X360.

- The Main Platforms for Square Enix are the Nintendo Platforms and PS3. The Lionshare of the Developers and our infrastructure as well as our capital is for NDS, Wii and PS3 and this is not going to change.

- We are astonished by Wiis success and the nintendo dominance. We thought that the PS3 and the Wii will coexist due to the difference between both strategies, but in the end the users will decide which platform we develop on. The SCE Platforms at this point are a bit of a challenge.

- We think we can do much on the Wii. I talked to Iwata to exploit many possibilities and cheer on him.

Which basically makes sense, seeing as how the vast majority of upcoming titles from Squeenix are on the DS and Wii. In fact, I think there are 3 or 4 upcoming titles on the Wii compared to 1 or 2 on the PS3, maybe 0 on the PSP, and 4 or so rumored on the DS, not to mention the recent release of Final Fantasy XII: Reverant Wings, the first step in the Ivalice chronicles.

What I think it this:

According to that, I believe Square Enix will give a bigger franchise, Kingdom Hearts, Dragonquest, or Star Ocean, Wii exclusivity in the next 2 years. I believe that only games being developed by Squeenix on Nintendo systems are turning a significant enough profit for the company to take notice, and they certainly have, as we've seen, Square tends to be a very business based company when it comes to who they develop for, with loyalty not being a consideration.

To Cows: It is a misconception that Square still chooses Sony as its main platform. The Nintendo DS and then the Wii are the main format choices of the company, wheather you believe the games being released for them are relevant or not, Square-Enix certainly believes so. I believe the PS3's last chance with Squeenix this gen is Final Fantasy XIII, if they dip in the red on that one due to poor PS3 sales, it will be the end of Final Fantasy numerical exclusivity on the Playstation for the immediate future.

That interview basically says they recognize the difficult development in design and cost for the Sony platform, compared to the Nintendo systems.

This is shown in practice, considering Square Enix's biggest Japanese brand is having its direct sequel on the biggest selling hardware in Japan, the DS, in the form of the next Dragonquest number, which was previously a Playstation 2 franchise, as well as in the increased quality and production dollars invested in recent DS and Wii titles, such as the new CC game, and Reverant Wings, which, like it or not, is obviously quite revolutionary for the DS in terms of graphics, and production values, sporting some increadible cutscenes.

So, Square Enix is now a Nintendo company, primarily, which also dabbles in the PS3, not so much the PSP anymore, and probably never on the 360.

Pretty much.

Pretty much.

Marth6781

LoL I heart Marth.

- The Main Platforms for Square Enix are the Nintendo Platforms and PS3. The Lionshare of the Developers and our infrastructure as well as our capital is for NDS, Wii and PS3 and this is not going to change.

...

To Cows: It is a misconception that Square still chooses Sony as its main platform. The Nintendo DS and then the Wii are the main format choices of the company, wheather you believe the games being released for them are relevant or not, Square-Enix certainly believes so. I believe the PS3's last chance with Squeenix this gen is Final Fantasy XIII, if they dip in the red on that one due to poor PS3 sales, it will be the end of Final Fantasy numerical exclusivity on the Playstation for the immediate future.

Zenfoldor

Fanboys really should proof read what they write. They would end up with less contradictions.

[QUOTE="Zenfoldor"]

- The Main Platforms for Square Enix are the Nintendo Platforms and PS3. The Lionshare of the Developers and our infrastructure as well as our capital is for NDS, Wii and PS3 and this is not going to change.

...

To Cows: It is a misconception that Square still chooses Sony as its main platform. The Nintendo DS and then the Wii are the main format choices of the company, wheather you believe the games being released for them are relevant or not, Square-Enix certainly believes so. I believe the PS3's last chance with Squeenix this gen is Final Fantasy XIII, if they dip in the red on that one due to poor PS3 sales, it will be the end of Final Fantasy numerical exclusivity on the Playstation for the immediate future.

RurouniSaiyajin

Fanboys really should proof read what they write. They would end up with less contradictions.

I know huh, you should maybe read his full post .. where he says they would still develop for the PS3 too..

You can never have enough RAM in your computer or enough money in your wallet. Same applies to developers developing for a console. The more, the merrier.

[QUOTE="Zenfoldor"]

- The Main Platforms for Square Enix are the Nintendo Platforms and PS3. The Lionshare of the Developers and our infrastructure as well as our capital is for NDS, Wii and PS3 and this is not going to change.

...

To Cows: It is a misconception that Square still chooses Sony as its main platform. The Nintendo DS and then the Wii are the main format choices of the company, wheather you believe the games being released for them are relevant or not, Square-Enix certainly believes so. I believe the PS3's last chance with Squeenix this gen is Final Fantasy XIII, if they dip in the red on that one due to poor PS3 sales, it will be the end of Final Fantasy numerical exclusivity on the Playstation for the immediate future.

RurouniSaiyajin

Fanboys really should proof read what they write. They would end up with less contradictions.

Umm, a dbz avatar. j/k

Anyways I im pretty sure he means that SE is saying sony isnt their one and only focus anymore.

[QUOTE="Zenfoldor"]

- The Main Platforms for Square Enix are the Nintendo Platforms and PS3. The Lionshare of the Developers and our infrastructure as well as our capital is for NDS, Wii and PS3 and this is not going to change.

Which basically makes sense, seeing as how the vast majority of upcoming titles from Squeenix are on the DS and Wii. In fact, I think there are 3 or 4 upcoming titles on the Wii compared to 1 or 2 on the PS3, maybe 0 on the PSP, and 4 or so rumored on the DS, not to mention the recent release of Final Fantasy XII: Reverant Wings, the first step in the Ivalice chronicles.

What I think it this:

According to that, I believe Square Enix will give a bigger franchise, Kingdom Hearts, Dragonquest, or Star Ocean, Wii exclusivity in the next 2 years. I believe that only games being developed by Squeenix on Nintendo systems are turning a significant enough profit for the company to take notice, and they certainly have, as we've seen, Square tends to be a very business based company when it comes to who they develop for, with loyalty not being a consideration.

To Cows: It is a misconception that Square still chooses Sony as its main platform. The Nintendo DS and then the Wii are the main format choices of the company, wheather you believe the games being released for them are relevant or not, Square-Enix certainly believes so. I believe the PS3's last chance with Squeenix this gen is Final Fantasy XIII, if they dip in the red on that one due to poor PS3 sales, it will be the end of Final Fantasy numerical exclusivity on the Playstation for the immediate future.

Slashkice

The PlayStation 3 is still a main platform for Squenix; they're just expanding to the Wii. Not true, Crisis Core had an excellent turnout, and that was just in Japan.

I really doubt Final Fantasy XIII will tank in sales. Games like these are system-sellers, as seen with Crisis Core.

Crisis core hasnt even broken a million in japan yet, for FF that seems sad.

no solid source = fail.

besides if ff13 comes out it will move at least 1 million units... if resistance moved 1mil

imagine how much ff13 will move.

people buy good games, but sadly 90% of ps3 games are either ports or average.

Not true, Crisis Core had an excellent turnout, and that was just in Japan.

Slashkice

One game woo now look at the list of the games on the DS .. and compare sales.

edit: Crisis core has not broke 1million yet? :lol:

and even if square develops on wii, its gona look like crap and play like crap.

95% of wiis third party games sucks.

its the first party thats even keeping them alive. but not for long.

ff13 on wii? ewww

[QUOTE="Zenfoldor"]

- The Main Platforms for Square Enix are the Nintendo Platforms and PS3. The Lionshare of the Developers and our infrastructure as well as our capital is for NDS, Wii and PS3 and this is not going to change.

...

To Cows: It is a misconception that Square still chooses Sony as its main platform. The Nintendo DS and then the Wii are the main format choices of the company, wheather you believe the games being released for them are relevant or not, Square-Enix certainly believes so. I believe the PS3's last chance with Squeenix this gen is Final Fantasy XIII, if they dip in the red on that one due to poor PS3 sales, it will be the end of Final Fantasy numerical exclusivity on the Playstation for the immediate future.

RurouniSaiyajin

Fanboys really should proof read what they write. They would end up with less contradictions.

What should I prove to you? That what I think is what I think?

How bout the number of titles upcoming for the systems? Is that proof enough?

What about Squeenix company head saying that SCE is difficult to develop for, leaving out PSP alltogether, and touting Wii, and DS first, along with meeting with Nintendos president?

What about the increased support of Nintendo systems, compared to the lack of support for Sony ones.

In fact, you can't even dispute anything I said. That's why no one has posted. That's why you only trolled. It makes you mad, but there is just nothing you can say. All the facts are against you.

If you disagree, go ahead, and dispute my opinion. Feel free. Just be ready to prove your claims youself. You can't though, because there is no way to prove something that isn't true, especially when Square Enix disagrees with you out of the gate.

[QUOTE="RurouniSaiyajin"]

[QUOTE="Zenfoldor"]

- The Main Platforms for Square Enix are the Nintendo Platforms and PS3. The Lionshare of the Developers and our infrastructure as well as our capital is for NDS, Wii and PS3 and this is not going to change.

...

To Cows: It is a misconception that Square still chooses Sony as its main platform. The Nintendo DS and then the Wii are the main format choices of the company, wheather you believe the games being released for them are relevant or not, Square-Enix certainly believes so. I believe the PS3's last chance with Squeenix this gen is Final Fantasy XIII, if they dip in the red on that one due to poor PS3 sales, it will be the end of Final Fantasy numerical exclusivity on the Playstation for the immediate future.

X_Evo

Fanboys really should proof read what they write. They would end up with less contradictions.

I know huh, you should maybe read his full post .. where he says they would still develop for the PS3 too..

Yes but it is also a main platform, which contradicts the TC's presumption that the Wii and DS are the sole main platforms. And you misunderstand the article.Just because a system isn't listed among the main platforms they are working on doesn't mean that they aren't developing anything for it

and even if square develops on wii, its gona look like crap and play like crap.

95% of wiis third party games sucks.

its the first party thats even keeping them alive. but not for long.

ff13 on wii? ewww

thenycest1_b_basic

Check out screens for the new FF crystal chronicle games on the Wii .. I am sure SE can make great games on the Wii considering they made great games on the PS2 and that system was below the GC and X-Box graphically.

no solid source = fail.

besides if ff13 comes out it will move at least 1 million units... if resistance moved 1mil

imagine how much ff13 will move.

people buy good games, but sadly 90% of ps3 games are either ports or average.

thenycest1_b_basic

No solid source? So your saying if this is true, then its devastating for Sony?

Well, my friend, click on the link in the bottom of the english translation I presented, to the japanese story. I got this story from Kotaku, should be credible.

[QUOTE="X_Evo"][QUOTE="RurouniSaiyajin"]

[QUOTE="Zenfoldor"]

- The Main Platforms for Square Enix are the Nintendo Platforms and PS3. The Lionshare of the Developers and our infrastructure as well as our capital is for NDS, Wii and PS3 and this is not going to change.

...

To Cows: It is a misconception that Square still chooses Sony as its main platform. The Nintendo DS and then the Wii are the main format choices of the company, wheather you believe the games being released for them are relevant or not, Square-Enix certainly believes so. I believe the PS3's last chance with Squeenix this gen is Final Fantasy XIII, if they dip in the red on that one due to poor PS3 sales, it will be the end of Final Fantasy numerical exclusivity on the Playstation for the immediate future.

RurouniSaiyajin

Fanboys really should proof read what they write. They would end up with less contradictions.

I know huh, you should maybe read his full post .. where he says they would still develop for the PS3 too..

Yes but it is also a main platform, which contradicts the TC's presumption that the Wii and DS are the sole main platforms. And you misunderstand the article.Just because a system isn't listed among the main platforms they are working on doesn't mean that they aren't developing anything for it

I made that assumption based on the huge number of titles coming out for Nintendo consoles, and the relative lack of titles coming out for Sony consoles.

[QUOTE="Marth6781"]

Crisis core hasnt even broken a million in japan yet, for FF that seems sad.

Slashkice

Niether has Revenant Wings. Still, it was Square's best-selling game this year.

For FF that seems sad, its sad either way you look at it. IT might be understandable since all they released were spin-offs.

and even if square develops on wii, its gona look like crap and play like crap.

95% of wiis third party games sucks.

its the first party thats even keeping them alive. but not for long.

ff13 on wii? ewww

thenycest1_b_basic

I don't care if all Squeenix's games are mobile phone ports, on the Wii. Just the fact that the Wii has Square solidly in its corner again makes me happy. Your generalized opinions about the Wii and its software and noted and logged.

[QUOTE="Marth6781"]

Crisis core hasnt even broken a million in japan yet, for FF that seems sad.

Slashkice

[QUOTE="Slashkice"][QUOTE="Marth6781"]

Crisis core hasnt even broken a million in japan yet, for FF that seems sad.

X_Evo

RW was niche' CC was a system seller, we saw this in japan.

Release CC on the DS and RW on the PSP and the sales difference would be hugely in favor of CC.

That said, I don't think we'll be seeing many more big dollar SE games hitting the PSP for a while.

[QUOTE="Slashkice"][QUOTE="Marth6781"]

Crisis core hasnt even broken a million in japan yet, for FF that seems sad.

Slashkice

Niether has Revenant Wings. Still, it was Square's best-selling game this year.

Oh, and furthemore, Final Fantasy III (in Japan) is only a few thousand over the 1 mill mark, and it was released in 2006. For a game that's been out for some two months and has already sold 710k (according to Squenix's November report), that could hardly be called "sad", Final Fantasy or not.

Its still sad. Though spin offs and remakes dont sell alot.

[QUOTE="RurouniSaiyajin"]

[QUOTE="Zenfoldor"]

- The Main Platforms for Square Enix are the Nintendo Platforms and PS3. The Lionshare of the Developers and our infrastructure as well as our capital is for NDS, Wii and PS3 and this is not going to change.

...

To Cows: It is a misconception that Square still chooses Sony as its main platform. The Nintendo DS and then the Wii are the main format choices of the company, wheather you believe the games being released for them are relevant or not, Square-Enix certainly believes so. I believe the PS3's last chance with Squeenix this gen is Final Fantasy XIII, if they dip in the red on that one due to poor PS3 sales, it will be the end of Final Fantasy numerical exclusivity on the Playstation for the immediate future.

Zenfoldor

Fanboys really should proof read what they write. They would end up with less contradictions.

What should I prove to you? That what I think is what I think?

How bout the number of titles upcoming for the systems? Is that proof enough?

What about Squeenix company head saying that SCE is difficult to develop for, leaving out PSP alltogether, and touting Wii, and DS first, along with meeting with Nintendos president?

What about the increased support of Nintendo systems, compared to the lack of support for Sony ones.

In fact, you can't even dispute anything I said. That's why no one has posted. That's why you only trolled. It makes you mad, but there is just nothing you can say. All the facts are against you.

If you disagree, go ahead, and dispute my opinion. Feel free. Just be ready to prove your claims youself. You can't though, because there is no way to prove something that isn't true, especially when Square Enix disagrees with you out of the gate.

Actually yes there is.a way.

- The Main Platforms for Square Enix are the Nintendo Platforms and PS3. The Lionshare of the Developers and our infrastructure as well as our capital is for NDS, Wii and PS3 and this is not going to change. article

You can live off in your fanboy world all you want. You can go right ahead and think that Nintendo platforms are the only main platforms that they are working on. I'm not going to bother you. It isn't like the misconception is going to change anything really. But Square Enix says it themselves that the NDS and Wii aren't the sole main platforms. The main format choices for them are DS, Wii and PS3. Simple as that.

[QUOTE="Zenfoldor"][QUOTE="RurouniSaiyajin"]

[QUOTE="Zenfoldor"]

- The Main Platforms for Square Enix are the Nintendo Platforms and PS3. The Lionshare of the Developers and our infrastructure as well as our capital is for NDS, Wii and PS3 and this is not going to change.

...

To Cows: It is a misconception that Square still chooses Sony as its main platform. The Nintendo DS and then the Wii are the main format choices of the company, wheather you believe the games being released for them are relevant or not, Square-Enix certainly believes so. I believe the PS3's last chance with Squeenix this gen is Final Fantasy XIII, if they dip in the red on that one due to poor PS3 sales, it will be the end of Final Fantasy numerical exclusivity on the Playstation for the immediate future.

RurouniSaiyajin

Fanboys really should proof read what they write. They would end up with less contradictions.

What should I prove to you? That what I think is what I think?

How bout the number of titles upcoming for the systems? Is that proof enough?

What about Squeenix company head saying that SCE is difficult to develop for, leaving out PSP alltogether, and touting Wii, and DS first, along with meeting with Nintendos president?

What about the increased support of Nintendo systems, compared to the lack of support for Sony ones.

In fact, you can't even dispute anything I said. That's why no one has posted. That's why you only trolled. It makes you mad, but there is just nothing you can say. All the facts are against you.

If you disagree, go ahead, and dispute my opinion. Feel free. Just be ready to prove your claims youself. You can't though, because there is no way to prove something that isn't true, especially when Square Enix disagrees with you out of the gate.

Actually yes there is.a way.

- The Main Platforms for Square Enix are the Nintendo Platforms and PS3. The Lionshare of the Developers and our infrastructure as well as our capital is for NDS, Wii and PS3 and this is not going to change. article

You can live off in your fanboy world all you want. You can go right ahead and think that Nintendo platforms are the only main platforms that they are working on. I'm not going to bother you. It isn't like the misconception is going to change anything really. But Square Enix says it themselves that the NDS and Wii aren't the sole main platforms. The main format choices for them are DS, Wii and PS3. Simple as that.

He never said nintendo was the SOLE platform, he said that SE is giving more support to the "Nintendo family" than the "Playstation family".

You can live off in your fanboy world all you want. You can go right ahead and think that Nintendo platforms are the only main platforms that they are working on. I'm not going to bother you. It isn't like the misconception is going to change anything really. But Square Enix says it themselves that the NDS and Wii aren't the sole main platforms. The main format choices for them are DS, Wii and PS3. Simple as that.

RurouniSaiyajin

Maybe you could list for me the current titles slated for PS3 release.

Also, consider the PS3 title has been in development since before launch. They were going by the PS2 assumption as was the rest of the gaming industry.

He never said nintendo was the SOLE platform, he said that SE is giving more support to the "Nintendo family" than the "Playstation family".

Marth6781

I don't think anyone can disagree with that.

hey ime just happy i bought a pc instead of ps3 last week haha :)

pc + wii = win

He never said nintendo was the SOLE platform, he said that SE is giving more support to the "Nintendo family" than the "Playstation family".

Marth6781

....The Nintendo DS and then the Wii are the main format choices of the company, wheather you believe the games being released for them are relevant or not, Square-Enix certainly believes so... TC

Kind of hard to misunderstand that. It's analmost a carbon copy of what was said in the sum up that Square Enix gave, minus a platform and change "platform" for "focus" and I am not talking about the rest of the OP. I'm just talking about this one contradiction. And yes it is a clean cut affair of either you area main focus/platform or not and the PS3 is. Whether you all want to speculate that it isn't one based on the quantity of games that it is getting is none of my business.

And no, I'm not going to comment on the rest of the OP because I wouldn't even know where to begin to work on the other contradictions since I'm having so much trouble proving the simplest contradiction that you'd think would have been simple to establish. I say you are contradicting yourself here, show the two quotes which are pretty much the same sentence minus one thing and change one word, you say whoops, I say it happens and we go on with our lives.

Also, this one is a littleoff topic but Star Ocean has already been confirmed to be not aWii game. No real news from Tri-Ace other than that. It's eitherPS3,360 or both.Just thought that was worth mentioning in terms of which main series they could get.

[QUOTE="Marth6781"]

Crisis core hasnt even broken a million in japan yet, for FF that seems sad.

Slashkice

Niether has Revenant Wings. Still, it was Square's best-selling game this year.

Square Enix best selling game was Dragon Quest 4 on the DS not Crisis Core. Crisis core had been in development for over 3 years. It had an AAA team on it, they created an engine for it, had writers draw up the story, and the game stalled out in Japan in the 700k area after like 4 months in retail.

Dragone Quest 4 came out originally in like 1995, they just ported it to the DS did make a new engine for it or anything, and its at 1.2 million in HALF the time. FF4 DS is ANOTHER remake, wasnt in dev anywhere NEAR as long as FF:Crisis Core and is at 550+k after just 1 month, its going to pass Crisis Core like its standing still.

Thats why when you scroll up and READ what the guy from SE said, he says:

"The SCE Platforms at this point are a bit of a challenge."

Yeah, they are a challenge alright. Remakes on DS sell 1.2 million and more, the FF remakes for the PSP? Did like 200 - 300k and died. They will finish every project they have in store for the PS3, theres no doubt there. Every game that has ALREADY been started will STAY PS3 exclusive. But dont expect much after that. They ditched the PSP, and they will ditch the PS3 just as quick. Wii userbase is like 3+ million more than the PS3 in Japan. It will be ahead by like 6-7+ million by the time FF13 hits the PS3. They know that even their precious FF13 isnt going to save the PS3 in Japan. It is over.

[QUOTE="Marth6781"]

He never said nintendo was the SOLE platform, he said that SE is giving more support to the "Nintendo family" than the "Playstation family".

RurouniSaiyajin

....The Nintendo DS and then the Wii are the main format choices of the company, wheather you believe the games being released for them are relevant or not, Square-Enix certainly believes so... TC

Kind of hard to misunderstand that. It's analmost a carbon copy of what was said in the sum up that Square Enix gave, minus a platform and change "platform" for "focus" and I am not talking about the rest of the OP. I'm just talking about this one contradiction. And yes it is a clean cut affair of either you area main focus/platform or not and the PS3 is. Whether you all want to speculate that it isn't one based on the quantity of games that it is getting is none of my business.

And no, I'm not going to comment on the rest of the OP because I wouldn't even know where to begin to work on the other contradictions since I'm having so much trouble proving the simplest contradiction that you'd think would have been simple to establish. I say you are contradicting yourself here, show the two quotes which are pretty much the same sentence minus one thing and change one word, you say whoops, I say it happens and we go on with our lives.

Also, this one is a littleoff topic but Star Ocean has already been confirmed to be not aWii game. No real news from Tri-Ace other than that. It's eitherPS3,360 or both.Just thought that was worth mentioning in terms of which main series they could get.

Did you know that "main" and "sole" mean two different things?

The title of this thread is false.X_CAPCOM_X

Not according to Square-Enix.

[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"]The title of this thread is false.Zenfoldor

Not according to Square-Enix.

You mean "not according to what I concluded from reading the article." They will make games for the Wii, but they will still make more PS3 games.

[QUOTE="Zenfoldor"]

[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"]The title of this thread is false.X_CAPCOM_X

Not according to Square-Enix.

You mean "not according to what I concluded from reading the article." They will make games for the Wii, but they will still make more PS3 games.

Of course. As Admiral DuGalle said "Once started, there's no going back." But you cannot deny that there is a possibility that SE will focus on the wii while still continuing support for the PS3.

[QUOTE="RurouniSaiyajin"]

[QUOTE="Marth6781"]

He never said nintendo was the SOLE platform, he said that SE is giving more support to the "Nintendo family" than the "Playstation family".

Zenfoldor

....The Nintendo DS and then the Wii are the main format choices of the company, wheather you believe the games being released for them are relevant or not, Square-Enix certainly believes so... TC

Kind of hard to misunderstand that. It's analmost a carbon copy of what was said in the sum up that Square Enix gave, minus a platform and change "platform" for "focus" and I am not talking about the rest of the OP. I'm just talking about this one contradiction. And yes it is a clean cut affair of either you area main focus/platform or not and the PS3 is. Whether you all want to speculate that it isn't one based on the quantity of games that it is getting is none of my business.

And no, I'm not going to comment on the rest of the OP because I wouldn't even know where to begin to work on the other contradictions since I'm having so much trouble proving the simplest contradiction that you'd think would have been simple to establish. I say you are contradicting yourself here, show the two quotes which are pretty much the same sentence minus one thing and change one word, you say whoops, I say it happens and we go on with our lives.

Also, this one is a littleoff topic but Star Ocean has already been confirmed to be not aWii game. No real news from Tri-Ace other than that. It's eitherPS3,360 or both.Just thought that was worth mentioning in terms of which main series they could get.

Did you know that "main" and "sole" mean two different things?

Did you know that by excludingsomething from the "main" when referring to a groupyou put it in the"Non-main" by defaultbecause you are categorizing everything in the group by default by categorizing part of it? Otherwise, there would be no point in categorizing them as the main focus because what's the point in saying they are the main focus if the other potential options could indeed be apart of the main focus.

It could be possible that you are trying to say that they are the main focus of the main focus but that's a pretty slippery slope to put yourself on.

[QUOTE="Zenfoldor"]

[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"]The title of this thread is false.X_CAPCOM_X

Not according to Square-Enix.

You mean "not according to what I concluded from reading the article." They will make games for the Wii, but they will still make more PS3 games.

No they won't. Name the PS3 games coming by Square Enix that are confirmed.

[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"][QUOTE="Zenfoldor"]

[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"]The title of this thread is false.lordlors

Not according to Square-Enix.

You mean "not according to what I concluded from reading the article." They will make games for the Wii, but they will still make more PS3 games.

Of course. As Admiral DuGalle said "Once started, there's no going back." But you cannot deny that there is a possibility that SE will focus on the wii while still continuing support for the PS3.

Yeah, I never denied that. The TC said that they chose Wii over PS3, which is entirely false.

[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"][QUOTE="Zenfoldor"]

[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"]The title of this thread is false.Zenfoldor

Not according to Square-Enix.

You mean "not according to what I concluded from reading the article." They will make games for the Wii, but they will still make more PS3 games.

No they won't. Name the PS3 games coming by Square Enix that are confirmed.

DS Titles

Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo TalesDS Role-Playing

Anata Dake no Private Lesson - DS de Hajimeru - Tipness no Yoga DS Entertainment

Chikyuu no Arukikata DS - Italia-HenDS Edutainment

Chikyuu no Arukikata DS - Thai-HenDS Edutainment

DS de ****c Kiite Mimasenka?DS Miscellaneous

Hana Saku DS Gardening LifeDS Miscellaneous J

Chikyuu no Arukikata DS - France-HenDS Edutainment

Egg Monster HeroDS Action TBA

Final Fantasy IIIDS Role-Playing

Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Ring of FatesDS Action Role-Playing Mar 11, 2008

Mario Hoops 3 on 3DS Basketball

Dragon Quest Monsters: JokerDS Role-Playing

Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket SlimeDS Fantasy Action Adventure

Heroes of ManaDS Real-Time Strategy

Final Fantasy XII: Revenant WingsDS Action Role-Playing 8.5 Nov 20, 2007

The World Ends With YouDS Action Role-Playing Q2 2008

Front MissionDS Sci-Fi Turn-Based Strategy Oct 23, 2007

Itadaki Street DSDS Board Game Jun 21, 2007 (JP)

Dragon Quest IX: Guard of the Starry Night (working title)DS Role-Playing TBA 2008 (JP)

Final Fantasy Tactics A2: The Sealed GrimoireDS Fantasy Turn-Based Strategy TBA

Chikyuu no Arukikata DS - New York-HenDS Edutainment Oct 04, 2007 (JP)

Chikyuu no Arukikata DS - Hawaii-HenDS Edutainment Oct 04, 2007 (JP)

Chikyuu no Arukikata DS - Taiwan-HenDS Edutainment Oct 04, 2007 (JP)

Final Fantasy IVDS Role-Playing Dec 20, 2007 (JP)

Dragon Quest IVDS Role-Playing Nov 22, 2007 (JP)

Dragon Quest VDS Role-Playing Q1 2008 (JP)

Dragon Quest VIDS Role-Playing TBA (JP)

Front Mission 2089: Border of MadnessDS Strategy TBA (JP)

Yosumin. DSDS Puzzle Nov 08, 2007 (JP)

Kingdom Hearts 358/2 DaysDS Action Role-Playing TBA (JP)

Wine no Hajimekata DSDS Edutainment Nov 15, 2007 (JP)

Jinsei 8-Man-7000-Kai no Shokuji wo Tanoshiku suruDS Edutainment Dec 13, 2007 (JP)

Chikyuu no Arukikata: ShanghaiDS Miscellaneous Dec 13, 2007 (JP)

Chikyuu no Arukikata: Hong KongDS Miscellaneous Dec 13, 2007 (JP)

Chikyuu no Arukikata: Seoul - BusanDS Miscellaneous Dec 13, 2007 (JP)

Chikyuu no Arukikata: IgirisuDS Miscellaneous Dec 13, 2007 (JP)

Maji de Manabu: LEC de Ukaru - DS Hishou Boki 3-KyuuDS Miscellaneous Q1 2008 (JP)

Wii Titles

Treasure Hunter GWII Role-Playing Dec 25, 2007 (JP)

Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal BearersWII Action Role-Playing News TBA 2008

Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of MirrorsWII Role-Playing Feb 26, 2008

ActRaiserWII Action 8.0 May 28, 2007

Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon: The Labyrinth of Lost TimeWII Action Role-Playing TBA

Hanjuku HeroWII Strategy Oct 30, 2007 (JP)

Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Young King and the Promised LandWII Action Role-Playing TBA

King's KnightWII Shoot-'Em-Up Nov 27, 2007 (JP)

PS3 Titles

Final Fantasy XIIIPS3 Role-Playing News TBA

Final Fantasy Versus XIIIPS3 Action Role-Playing TBA

Star Ocean 4PS3 Role-Playing TBA

The Last RemnantPS3 Role-Playing TBA

Looks like the DS, aka, Nintendo is the biggest platform for Squeenix, not to mention the fact that all of those PS3 games are TBA. I wonder when the TBA and besides the first two, at least unconfirmed as exclusive.

[QUOTE="lordlors"][QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"][QUOTE="Zenfoldor"]

[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"]The title of this thread is false.X_CAPCOM_X

Not according to Square-Enix.

You mean "not according to what I concluded from reading the article." They will make games for the Wii, but they will still make more PS3 games.

Of course. As Admiral DuGalle said "Once started, there's no going back." But you cannot deny that there is a possibility that SE will focus on the wii while still continuing support for the PS3.

Yeah, I never denied that. The TC said that they chose Wii over PS3, which is entirely false.

I said Nintendo was their main platform choice with the DS and Wii. It is, obviously. I never said it was the sole platform choice.

I do not care what SE does as long as i get FFXIII and VERSUSXIII by 2009 EPaul

I hear ya, but if it takes em extra time to get it right, I can live with that as well.

If you want to list every nintendo console that is still alive, why don't you list PS2, and PSP titlesfor Sony. Just because you think theywill support the wii more (you didn't exclusively list the wii either, you also listed the DS) does not mean they will.

Additionally, most of those games based on big franchises are spinoffs. If you like the series, youshould buy the actual games from the series.

DS Titles

Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo TalesDS Role-Playing

Anata Dake no Private Lesson - DS de Hajimeru - Tipness no Yoga DS Entertainment

Chikyuu no Arukikata DS - Italia-HenDS Edutainment

Chikyuu no Arukikata DS - Thai-HenDS Edutainment

DS de ****c Kiite Mimasenka?DS Miscellaneous

Hana Saku DS Gardening LifeDS Miscellaneous J

Chikyuu no Arukikata DS - France-HenDS Edutainment

Egg Monster HeroDS Action TBA

Final Fantasy IIIDS Role-Playing

Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Ring of FatesDS Action Role-Playing Mar 11, 2008

Mario Hoops 3 on 3DS Basketball

Dragon Quest Monsters: JokerDS Role-Playing

Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket SlimeDS Fantasy Action Adventure

Heroes of ManaDS Real-Time Strategy

Final Fantasy XII: Revenant WingsDS Action Role-Playing 8.5 Nov 20, 2007

The World Ends With YouDS Action Role-Playing Q2 2008

Front MissionDS Sci-Fi Turn-Based Strategy Oct 23, 2007

Itadaki Street DSDS Board Game Jun 21, 2007 (JP)

Dragon Quest IX: Guard of the Starry Night (working title)DS Role-Playing TBA 2008 (JP)

Final Fantasy Tactics A2: The Sealed GrimoireDS Fantasy Turn-Based Strategy TBA

Chikyuu no Arukikata DS - New York-HenDS Edutainment Oct 04, 2007 (JP)

Chikyuu no Arukikata DS - Hawaii-HenDS Edutainment Oct 04, 2007 (JP)

Chikyuu no Arukikata DS - Taiwan-HenDS Edutainment Oct 04, 2007 (JP)

Final Fantasy IVDS Role-Playing Dec 20, 2007 (JP)

Dragon Quest IVDS Role-Playing Nov 22, 2007 (JP)

Dragon Quest VDS Role-Playing Q1 2008 (JP)

Dragon Quest VIDS Role-Playing TBA (JP)

Front Mission 2089: Border of MadnessDS Strategy TBA (JP)

Yosumin. DSDS Puzzle Nov 08, 2007 (JP)

Kingdom Hearts 358/2 DaysDS Action Role-Playing TBA (JP)

Wine no Hajimekata DSDS Edutainment Nov 15, 2007 (JP)

Jinsei 8-Man-7000-Kai no Shokuji wo Tanoshiku suruDS Edutainment Dec 13, 2007 (JP)

Chikyuu no Arukikata: ShanghaiDS Miscellaneous Dec 13, 2007 (JP)

Chikyuu no Arukikata: Hong KongDS Miscellaneous Dec 13, 2007 (JP)

Chikyuu no Arukikata: Seoul - BusanDS Miscellaneous Dec 13, 2007 (JP)

Chikyuu no Arukikata: IgirisuDS Miscellaneous Dec 13, 2007 (JP)

Maji de Manabu: LEC de Ukaru - DS Hishou Boki 3-KyuuDS Miscellaneous Q1 2008 (JP)

Wii Titles

Treasure Hunter GWII Role-Playing Dec 25, 2007 (JP)

Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal BearersWII Action Role-Playing News TBA 2008

Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of MirrorsWII Role-Playing Feb 26, 2008

ActRaiserWII Action 8.0 May 28, 2007

Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon: The Labyrinth of Lost TimeWII Action Role-Playing TBA

Hanjuku HeroWII Strategy Oct 30, 2007 (JP)

Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Young King and the Promised LandWII Action Role-Playing TBA

King's KnightWII Shoot-'Em-Up Nov 27, 2007 (JP)

PS3 Titles

Final Fantasy XIIIPS3 Role-Playing News TBA

Final Fantasy Versus XIIIPS3 Action Role-Playing TBA

Star Ocean 4PS3 Role-Playing TBA

The Last RemnantPS3 Role-Playing TBA

Looks like the DS, aka, Nintendo is the biggest platform for Squeenix, not to mention the fact that all of those PS3 games are TBA. I wonder when the TBA and besides the first two, at least unconfirmed as exclusive.

Zenfoldor

Are all of those really published/developed by Square Enix? They're a bigger company than I thought.

If you want to list every nintendo console that is still alive, why don't you list PS2, and PSP titlesfor Sony. Just because you think theywill support the wii more (you didn't exclusively list the wii either, you also listed the DS) does not mean they will.

Additionally, most of those games based on big franchises are spinoffs. If you like the series, youshould buy the actual games from the series.

X_CAPCOM_X

There are more games for Nintendo systems than for Sony systems. That means that they are supporting Nintedno more than Sony. Thats just how it works.