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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]The thing is VI didn't really work as 2D. It had to resort to entering battles to display some scenes, still images flying around the screen unanimated, etc. If they're going to put it in 2D they should at least put it on PSP so they can add fmv for the scenes that needed it so badly from the get go.IronBass
Fmv? Oh no, please. FFVI is perfect as it is. Putting the commands on the second screen like CT did would be more than enough.

I'd be pissed if they did that.

Anyways, I'm still saying it needs FMV. Go back and watch the SPOILERS scene where they open the door to the esper world and you'll know what I'm talking about. Or maybe you won't. END SPOILERS

I don't see why VI fans are so afraid of improvement. VI is not perfect. It screams "FMV."

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[QUOTE="110million"]Have you seen Dissidia on an actual PSP? It actually looks very nice... IronBass
Not as good as traditional 16 bit 2D graphics.

Dissisia doesn't look that nice to be honest. I have seen it on the psp too, its decent but not mind blowing.

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[QUOTE="110million"]Have you seen Dissidia on an actual PSP? It actually looks very nice... IronBass
Not as good as traditional 16 bit 2D graphics.

Here we go again...:P

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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="110million"]Have you seen Dissidia on an actual PSP? It actually looks very nice... ActicEdge

Not as good as traditional 16 bit 2D graphics.

Dissisia doesn't look that nice to be honest. I have seen it on the psp too, its decent but not mind blowing.

Sad thing is, I know a buddy who will still buy it just because it has the characters. He thinks any game with movie/game characters he likes will be good.
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Anyways, I'm still saying it needs FMV. Go back and watch the [spoiler] scene where they open the door to the esper world and you'll know what I'm talking about. Or maybe you won't. [/spoiler] hakanakumono
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hat scene is awesome. Just a FMV would not go along well with it.

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#56 110million
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="110million"]Have you seen Dissidia on an actual PSP? It actually looks very nice... ActicEdge

Not as good as traditional 16 bit 2D graphics.

Dissisia doesn't look that nice to be honest. I have seen it on the psp too, its decent but not mind blowing.

Compared to what? It looks infinitly nicer then anything the DS can do in terms of 3D, and around a early to mid-life PS2 game.
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#57 -Oath
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] Not as good as traditional 16 bit 2D graphics.110million

Dissisia doesn't look that nice to be honest. I have seen it on the psp too, its decent but not mind blowing.

Compared to what? It looks infinitly nicer then anything the DS can do in terms of 3D, and around a early to mid-life PS2 game.

It looks pretty grainy, that my only gripe with it. Its an good game, and looks great but I wouldnt say it looks like a mid life PS2 game :P

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As long as one is KH3 I will be happy:)

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Compared to what? It looks infinitly nicer then anything the DS can do in terms of 3D, and around a early to mid-life PS2 game. 110million

Exactly.

And 2D > 3D anytime, anywhere and practically any genre.

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[QUOTE="110million"]Have you seen Dissidia on an actual PSP? It actually looks very nice... IronBass
Not as good as traditional 16 bit 2D graphics.

Yeah totally.

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[QUOTE="110million"]Compared to what? It looks infinitly nicer then anything the DS can do in terms of 3D, and around a early to mid-life PS2 game. IronBass

Exactly.

And 2D > 3D anytime, anywhere and practically any genre.

Oohhhhhhhh woooooow. Oh, okay. I see. :roll:

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#62 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Yeah totallyhakanakumono
Yup, totally. 2D sprites FTW.
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Okay, so anyways. VI. FMV. Square, please.

I didn't realize how badly it needed it till I started playing it again. :(

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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]Yeah totallyIronBass
Yup, totally. 2D sprites FTW.

While I will agree, 2D owns 3D everyday of the week, Dissidia just wouldnt be what it is if it was in 2D.

A 3D free move action RPG, that couldnt happen with 2D... it would be street fighter.

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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]Yeah totallyIronBass
Yup, totally. 2D sprites FTW.

While I can agree that most of the time, 2D does look nice, and in many cases looks better then 3D, but if all games were still 2D, I don't think gaming would be as good any more, theirs quite a few genres that only work because 3D exists, not to say they can't be done in 2D, but the majority of the gameplay elements benefit from it. Dissidia for example, is crazy amounts of fun, and if it was just a normal 2D fighter with the same characters, it would not be remotely the same.
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] Not as good as traditional 16 bit 2D graphics.110million

Dissisia doesn't look that nice to be honest. I have seen it on the psp too, its decent but not mind blowing.

Compared to what? It looks infinitly nicer then anything the DS can do in terms of 3D, and around a early to mid-life PS2 game.

Its kind of washed out and the environments and obstacles don't really blow me away frankly. Its obviously better than the DS (have no clue how that's relevant to anything I was talking about) but I wouldn't really say mid life PS2 game. Its rather simple in geometry. I'm not saying it looks bad or average. It looks good, just not mind blowing or exceptional.

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While I can agree that most of the time, 2D does look nice, and in many cases looks better then 3D, but if all games were still 2D, I don't think gaming would be as good any more, theirs quite a few genres that only work because 3D exists, not to say they can't be done in 2D, but the majority of the gameplay elements benefit from it. Dissidia for example, is crazy amounts of fun, and if it was just a normal 2D fighter with the same characters, it would not be remotely the same.110million
Oh, but I didn't say every game should be 2D, nor that 3D gaming is not awesome (it is). There are also A LOT of games that wouldn't work 2D, as they are some that would not work 3D. I just stated which is my favorite from the two. I can"t wait until Wednesday when my copy of Contra 4 arrives ^_^
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Would include games that they are publishing? If so one of them may be Supreme Commander 2

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[QUOTE="110million"]Compared to what? It looks infinitly nicer then anything the DS can do in terms of 3D, and around a early to mid-life PS2 game. IronBass

Exactly.

And 2D > 3D anytime, anywhere and practically any genre.

I disagree. I love 2D but its limited in many sense just like 3D. A nice balance is awesome. (we don't get that but its great when it happens) Dissidia would be so bleh in 2D, I much prefer it in 3D to be honest, same with action adventure games.

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They're all going to have the words "Final Fantasy" in it.
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[QUOTE="110million"]While I can agree that most of the time, 2D does look nice, and in many cases looks better then 3D, but if all games were still 2D, I don't think gaming would be as good any more, theirs quite a few genres that only work because 3D exists, not to say they can't be done in 2D, but the majority of the gameplay elements benefit from it. Dissidia for example, is crazy amounts of fun, and if it was just a normal 2D fighter with the same characters, it would not be remotely the same.IronBass
Oh, but I didn't say every game should be 2D, nor that 3D gaming is not awesome (it is). There are also A LOT of games that wouldn't work 2D, as they are some that would not work 3D. I just stated which is my favorite from the two. I can"t wait until Wednesday when my copy of Contra 4 arrives ^_^

Well when you said 2D is better anytime and anywhere, it sounds like you'd just prefer it if everything was 2D, I mean, if its better, why make anything 3D? :?
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I disagree. I love 2D but its limited in many sense just like 3D. A nice balance is awesome. (we don't get that but its great when it happens) Dissidia would be so bleh in 2D, I much prefer it in 3D to be honest, same with action adventure games.ActicEdge
Of course, a 3D fighter would not work 2D :P
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How about Crisis Core 2? :P

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Well when you said 2D is better anytime and anywhere, it sounds like you'd just prefer it if everything was 2D110million
It was an hyperbole.
I mean, if its better, why make anything 3D? :?110million
Because, as I already said, not every game would work 2D, as not every game would work 3D.
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]I disagree. I love 2D but its limited in many sense just like 3D. A nice balance is awesome. (we don't get that but its great when it happens) Dissidia would be so bleh in 2D, I much prefer it in 3D to be honest, same with action adventure games.IronBass
Of course, a 3D fighter would not work 2D :P

I guess that much was obvious :P
I really wish dissidia was a console game though, I really think it would have been better that way.

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we know 2 of these already front mission 360/pc and the ps3 action game
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[QUOTE="110million"]Well when you said 2D is better anytime and anywhere, it sounds like you'd just prefer it if everything was 2DIronBass
It was an hyperbole.
I mean, if its better, why make anything 3D? :?110million
Because, as I already said, not every game would work 2D, as not every game would work 3D.

Alright, fair enough, I love me plenty of 2D games as well, I just think many of them could transfer to 3D, and it might not be better then the original, but it would still be cool to see what it would look like in a new way.

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I really wish dissidia was a console game though, I really think it would have been better that way.ActicEdge
I got that feeling from most PSP games :P (j/k)
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]I really wish dissidia was a console game though, I really think it would have been better that way.IronBass
I got that feeling from most PSP games :P (j/k)

Sometimes I think they would be better as console games too. Not always though, some are just awesome the way they are (War of the Lions anybody?)

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Alright, fair enough, I love me plenty of 2D games as well, I just think many of them could transfer to 3D, and it might not be better then the original, but it would still be cool to see what it would look like in a new way.110million
Well, talking from my personal experiences (Megaman, Castlevania, Contra, Sonic), 2D some games are meant to always stay 2D. I must admit I could have not been more surprised with what Retro Studios did with Meroid, though. I consider MP superior to any 2D Metroid.
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[QUOTE="110million"]Alright, fair enough, I love me plenty of 2D games as well, I just think many of them could transfer to 3D, and it might not be better then the original, but it would still be cool to see what it would look like in a new way.IronBass
Well, talking from my personal experiences (Megaman, Castlevania, Contra, Sonic), 2D some games are meant to always stay 2D. I must admit I could have not been more surprised with what Retro Studios did with Meroid, though. I consider MP superior to any 2D Metroid.

Well for me, I enjoy Super Metroid the most out of any Metroid game, though I guess I skipped MP2, wasn't too fond with 1, and got 3 for the new controls. The best Megaman, Sonic, Castlevania, Contra, etc games are still 2D, but Megaman and Sonic did each have at least a couple great 3D games, just not recently...
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Sometimes I think they would be better as console games too. Not always though, some are just awesome the way they are (War of the Lions anybody?)ActicEdge
Patapon, Castlevania X Dracula Chronicles, Megaman Maverick Hunter X, Jeanne D' Arc and Disgaea make an awesome job as handheld games, too. The PSP could do with more side scrollers, though.
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]Sometimes I think they would be better as console games too. Not always though, some are just awesome the way they are (War of the Lions anybody?)IronBass
Patapon, Castlevania X Dracula Chronicles, Megaman Maverick Hunter X, Jeanne D' Arc and Disgaea make an awesome job as handheld games, too. The PSP could do with more side scrollers, though.

So true. I may have to get one eventually. I just miich off my friends :P

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we know 2 of these already front mission 360/pc and the ps3 action gamehy4k

Front Mission was also announced in a PS3 magazine, I believe.

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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="110million"]Have you seen Dissidia on an actual PSP? It actually looks very nice... hakanakumono

Not as good as traditional 16 bit 2D graphics.

Yeah totally.

eeww... he looks like a girl

If squeenix is set to destroy my childhood then i want the game in 2D

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It said that fans of SE two biggest series would be happy, I am guessing that would be Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest.

So maybe another Final Fantasy port on the DS, and a new Dragon Quest game. With the 3rd announcement possible being Supreme Commander 2 (since they are publishing it)

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Kingdom Hearts for PS3 or 360, FFVI remake for the DS or for Wii!!!!!!!!, FFVII remake for the PS3 or X360 would be amazing.
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]FFVI remake on the DS. Another FF for mobile phones. A new JRPG.Aljosa23

Fixed. :P

My (wild) guess is
- Vagrant Story 2
- New Chrono game
- Final Fantasy XIV (online MMORPG)

Someone's being a bit too optimistic. :P

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It said that fans of SE two biggest series would be happy, I am guessing that would be Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest.

So maybe another Final Fantasy port on the DS, and a new Dragon Quest game. With the 3rd announcement possible being Supreme Commander 2 (since they are publishing it)

Chaos_HL21

Well we alreay know about Dragon Quest 10 so a new FF/port and like, Valkyrie profile maybe?

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[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

It said that fans of SE two biggest series would be happy, I am guessing that would be Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest.

So maybe another Final Fantasy port on the DS, and a new Dragon Quest game. With the 3rd announcement possible being Supreme Commander 2 (since they are publishing it)

ActicEdge

Well we alreay know about Dragon Quest 10 so a new FF/port and like, Valkyrie profile maybe?

Maybe, or Front Missions is another possiblity. It would be weird if Supreme Commander is one of them. There was an interview with Chris Taylor in the newest PC Gamer that talked about it alittle bit. But I could see them showing off more of it at E3.

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im just waiting for ff13 and ffvs13 since those are the 2 biggest games they have that are actually on their way too
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

It said that fans of SE two biggest series would be happy, I am guessing that would be Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest.

So maybe another Final Fantasy port on the DS, and a new Dragon Quest game. With the 3rd announcement possible being Supreme Commander 2 (since they are publishing it)

Chaos_HL21

Well we alreay know about Dragon Quest 10 so a new FF/port and like, Valkyrie profile maybe?

Maybe, or Front Missions is another possiblity. It would be weird if Supreme Commander is one of them. There was an interview with Chris Taylor in the newest PC Gamer that talked about it alittle bit. But I could see them showing off more of it at E3.

You guys are forgeting Kingdom Hearts 3... it's bound to get announced one day... Anyways they are at the stage that anything they announce can be good. Since they can't remake/port FF1 and 2 anymore...
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I bet unless its a spinoff or a remake it will be crap just like everything else they released this gen (consoles only). The quality of their games has become pathetic. I wouldn't even put Square in the top 3 jrpg companies anymore.
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[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Well we alreay know about Dragon Quest 10 so a new FF/port and like, Valkyrie profile maybe?

haris12121212

Maybe, or Front Missions is another possiblity. It would be weird if Supreme Commander is one of them. There was an interview with Chris Taylor in the newest PC Gamer that talked about it alittle bit. But I could see them showing off more of it at E3.

You guys are forgeting Kingdom Hearts 3... it's bound to get announced one day... Anyways they are at the stage that anything they announce can be good. Since they can't remake/port FF1 and 2 anymore...

You didn't hear? Square is going to pause production on XIII to work on a PS3/360 Final Fantasy II remake.

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I bet unless its a spinoff or a remake it will be crap just like everything else they released this gen (consoles only). The quality of their games has become pathetic. I wouldn't even put Square in the top 3 jrpg companies anymore.kage_53
Just for curiosity, which are your top three JRPG devs?
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[QUOTE="kage_53"]I bet unless its a spinoff or a remake it will be crap just like everything else they released this gen (consoles only). The quality of their games has become pathetic. I wouldn't even put Square in the top 3 jrpg companies anymore.IronBass
Just for curiosity, which are your top three JRPG devs?

This is what I was wondering.

Imo, the whole genre has taken a major blow.

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#98 Vandalvideo
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Just for curiosity, which are your top three JRPG devs?IronBass
Nippon Ichi, Atlus, and Konami ftw.
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#99 kage_53
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[QUOTE="kage_53"]I bet unless its a spinoff or a remake it will be crap just like everything else they released this gen (consoles only). The quality of their games has become pathetic. I wouldn't even put Square in the top 3 jrpg companies anymore.IronBass
Just for curiosity, which are your top three JRPG devs?

Atlus, Nippon Ichi and those devs that made Shadow Hearts. Vanillaware is good too.

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#100 -Oath
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[[QUOTE="IronBass"] Just for curiosity, which are your top three JRPG devs?Vandalvideo
Nihon Falcom, Tri-Ace and Level 5 ftw.

Fixd ;)