Square's Livingstone talks next-gen; hints at always-on, used game-blocking Xbox

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#51 Obviously_Right
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I don't see the problem. In the not too distant future ALL games will come as digital downloads, physical mediums will be a thing of the past and trading used games won't be possible anyway. It's just Steam going viral in essence. Microsoft are paving the way as usual and everyone else will follow suit.

HaRmLeSS_RaGe

Nah, you just sound like an anti-consumer dumbass to me.

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#52 BuldozerX
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[QUOTE="TheDidact"][QUOTE="BuldozerX"][QUOTE="xhawk27"]

Yeah Sony don't blame use, blame the Devs. :D

 

The devs havent blocked any games on console yet. I dont know where you people get this idea from.

This. It's the publishers' fault. It looks like it'll be this way on PS4 as well, only for select games.

But devs can block used games now if they wants to. They dont. Why would this change?
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#53 shawn30
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I think he is saying this as more like wishful thinking on his part. Game devs want to crush used game sales and they would try anything to do it. Are they pushing this on MS who knows but I dont' think MS is going to do this. 

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Excellent point here and something I think cows don't want to look at. Game devs are dying for all used games to be blocked. That would greatly increase their revenue. And I think game devs are pushing this. But Sony has already eluded to the fact that they wont do it but their devs might. What I think could happen is that the devs end up doing it on their end while the console makers shrug and say "Its outta our hands."

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#54 HaRmLeSS_RaGe
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[QUOTE="HaRmLeSS_RaGe"]

I don't see the problem. In the not too distant future ALL games will come as digital downloads, physical mediums will be a thing of the past and trading used games won't be possible anyway. It's just Steam going viral in essence. Microsoft are paving the way as usual and everyone else will follow suit.

BuldozerX

The day I quit gaming. When I spend money I like to get something physycal in return. Its not like paying for a taxi.

 

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#55 HaRmLeSS_RaGe
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[QUOTE="HaRmLeSS_RaGe"]

I don't see the problem. In the not too distant future ALL games will come as digital downloads, physical mediums will be a thing of the past and trading used games won't be possible anyway. It's just Steam going viral in essence. Microsoft are paving the way as usual and everyone else will follow suit.

Obviously_Right

Nah, you just sound like an anti-consumer dumbass to me.

 

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#56 shawn30
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My rant only applies if the info is legit. But MS should not be acting arrogant at all. They allowed Sony to catch up with them in worldwide sales after they completely botched the PS3 launch. They allowed Nintendo to sell the most consoles. I can see why Sony was arrogant with the PS3 due to the fact that they made the highest selling console of all time with the PS2. And Nintendo's arrogance came from the massive success of the DS and Wii but what the Hell kind of reason does MS have to be arrogant?TheDidact
Seriously, you don't understand why? Look how Xbox one turned out versus the 360. Look at MS's first gen market share versus the second. And look where the great and powerful Sony were back then, and where they are now. Look at the books as the 360 has been operating in the black for the last couple of years and have been the highest selling console in the US for 25 straight months. Don't you think that would make any company confident? This is big business, not fanboys eating cheetos arguing over game systems.
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#57 TheWalkingGhost
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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"]PS4, WiiU and PC is the ONLY intelligent choice if this is true.NathanDrakeSwag

wii u is a terrible choice. ps4 is the best choice by far.

Eat it fanboy.
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#58 TheDidact
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[QUOTE="TheDidact"]My rant only applies if the info is legit. But MS should not be acting arrogant at all. They allowed Sony to catch up with them in worldwide sales after they completely botched the PS3 launch. They allowed Nintendo to sell the most consoles. I can see why Sony was arrogant with the PS3 due to the fact that they made the highest selling console of all time with the PS2. And Nintendo's arrogance came from the massive success of the DS and Wii but what the Hell kind of reason does MS have to be arrogant?shawn30
Seriously, you don't understand why? Look how Xbox one turned out versus the 360. Look at MS's first gen market share versus the second. And look where the great and powerful Sony were back then, and where they are now. Look at the books as the 360 has been operating in the black for the last couple of years and have been the highest selling console in the US for 25 straight months. Don't you think that would make any company confident? This is big business, not fanboys eating cheetos arguing over game systems.

It should give them a sense of confidence sure but if they think everybody would willingly buy an always online console that blocks used games and requires Kinect to be plugged in for the console to function they're out of their fvcking minds. Many of their customers also own PS3s and may just drop MS entirely and buy a PS4. But then again consumers are so fvcking stupid they won't know what hit them until after they try to set up the console. I guess it's good buisness taking advantage of idiots like this. It's cruel but its damn good buisness.
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#59 BuldozerX
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Why would the Kinect be plugged in? My room isnt even big enough for a Kinect. Not even close.
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#60 xhawk27
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Why would the Kinect be plugged in? My room isnt even big enough for a Kinect. Not even close.BuldozerX

The new kinect uses less room and can work around furniture. The PS4 is going to use PS4 eye that is like kinect. 

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#61 AmazonTreeBoa
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Plus all the games will just be on the PS4 with the same experience as PC.stayhigh1
Thanks for making me laugh.
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#62 timbers_WSU
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If they block used games I will go to PC only I guess.

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#63 BuldozerX
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If these rumours are true: 1. Gaming is getting to stupid 2. Gaming is getting to expensive Im out.
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#64 monkeytoes61
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I've always been an Xbox guy, but no used games + being online all the time x forcing Kinect upon us = me making the switch to Playstation

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#65 BuldozerX
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So if I buy 100 games for my Xbox 720 and they use some always online system, what happens the day in the future when they shut down the online servers like Dreamcast did? Do I own $5000 useless disc and plastic?

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#66 AmazonTreeBoa
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Well, since MS refuse to adress this rumours, start pre ordering the PS4.

BuldozerX
That's why I think it is true. I know if I ran a company and rulers were flying around that made my company look bad and wasn't true, I would have a small press conference to cpear things up. But they do nothing. Only reason I can think of with them doing nothing is that it is all true.
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#67 SPYDER0416
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I doubt Microsoft would have a no used games system, that would probably be the most effective marketing you could have for getting a Playstation 4 over an Xbox if they did that.

I wouldn't be surprised if they did do that, but I don't think they will.

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#68 kuraimen
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lol M$
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#69 xhawk27
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[QUOTE="BuldozerX"]

Well, since MS refuse to adress this rumours, start pre ordering the PS4.

AmazonTreeBoa

That's why I think it is true. I know if I ran a company and rulers were flying around that made my company look bad and wasn't true, I would have a small press conference to cpear things up. But they do nothing. Only reason I can think of with them doing nothing is that it is all true.

I think you guys should stop reading rumors and wait until next month at GDC.