SSBB will use WiiMOTE + NUNCHUCK - Picture included

[QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BSNOIUNCzeI

Here you go. A good example why a Wiimote setup is not good for Brawl if it's anything like Melee.

Hir0_N

Haven't seen that series in awhile. I should dig it up. 

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"]

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"]At high level play, Smash is the fastest fighting game everRedmoonxl2

I have seen MvC2 at high level and I still say that consistant speedwise, Smash is still faster. MvC2 is just a matter of chaining super moves one after the other.

In your opinion since you merely said that to lash out at me.

Personally I see that MvC2 is basically chain moves together to keep a constant flow which keeps the super meter full so you can do super moves. Granted there is plenty of depth in MvC2, I still see it as a super move fest.

I still say that Smash is a faster paced game while you think that MvC2 is faster. Whatever, I'm not depriving you of your views so don't try that with me. 

Most bystanders just looking in mostly just see flashes of light/huge explosions and have no idea how much activity is going into controlling the pyrotechnics of the game. It's faster than Smash BECAUSE it's a super-move fest.

Smash may look faster, but bottom line is, it doesn't take nearly as many inputs from the player per second.

People bought a Gamecube to play the last SSB, so I'm pretty sure they'll spend $20 to play this one if they have to.

Is it? Every move done in MvC2 takes at *least* double the inputs from the controller relative to Smash... Add this to the "arena" being a hotbox, and you have a small area that is almost totally player controlled - the navigation/control of which takes mind boggling inputs per second from the player.

Most bystanders just looking in mostly just see flashes of light/huge explosions and have no idea how much activity is going into controlling the pyrotechnics of the game. It's faster than Smash BECAUSE it's a super-move fest.

Smash may look faster, but bottom line is, it doesn't take nearly as many inputs from the player per second.AfterShafter

Look, again, I don't want to get into this with you. Granted, the small arena setting leaves the player of MvC2 in a position to act quickly but I still find that being able to actively perform in Smash as well as the very small error window that Smash's allows you makes for a faster paced game. I find SHFFLing more difficult than comboing in MvC2 and this is coming from someone who has MvC2 on the Xbox.

Whatever, I'm done discussing this with you. I'm not going to go through 20 pages of back and forth.

[QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="Hir0_N"][QUOTE="Potemkin2005"]Just because you made a cut little diagram in photoshop doesn't mean that SSBM will use the Wii-mote. It just shows that they could. You should change the title of your topic so it's not so misleading.Hir0_N

the main reason for using the c-stick in high end play is to aerial attack in one direction while DI'ing in another, something that cant be done if you use the control stick to smash. its a little thing, but some players will definitely miss it.

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Look, again, I don't want to get into this with you. Granted, the small arena setting leaves the player of MvC2 in a position to act quickly but I still find that being able to actively perform in Smash as well as the very small error window that Smash's allows you makes for a faster paced game. I find SHFFLing more difficult than comboing in MvC2 and this is coming from someone who has MvC2 on the Xbox.

Whatever, I'm done discussing this with you. I'm not going to go through 20 pages of back and forth.

Redmoonxl2

Im pretty sure Nintendy already said SSBB will require the GameCUbe Controller or a Classic Controller to play itUptown

[QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"]p>

Look, again, I don't want to get into this with you. Granted, the small arena setting leaves the player of MvC2 in a position to act quickly but I still find that being able to actively perform in Smash as well as the very small error window that Smash's allows you makes for a faster paced game. I find SHFFLing more difficult than comboing in MvC2 and this is coming from someone who has MvC2 on the Xbox.

Whatever, I'm done discussing this with you. I'm not going to go through 20 pages of back and forth.

AfterShafter

However you need a combination of speed and precision to remain competitive in Smash, not just one. In order to compete and not get overwhelmed, you need to be able to react quickly, attack and follow up. The opponent then needs to know how to counterattack, outmaneuver you and you need to react accordingly. 

again, I'm not counting out the fact that MvC2 is a fast game but I still feel that the elements in Smash makes for a game that requires more from you in a minute than MvC2, thus making for a faster game. 

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"]p>

Look, again, I don't want to get into this with you. Granted, the small arena setting leaves the player of MvC2 in a position to act quickly but I still find that being able to actively perform in Smash as well as the very small error window that Smash's allows you makes for a faster paced game. I find SHFFLing more difficult than comboing in MvC2 and this is coming from someone who has MvC2 on the Xbox.

Whatever, I'm done discussing this with you. I'm not going to go through 20 pages of back and forth.

Redmoonxl2

However you need a combination of speed and precision to remain competitive in Smash, not just one. In order to compete and not get overwhelmed, you need to be able to react quickly, attack and follow up. The opponent then needs to know how to counterattack, outmaneuver you and you need to react accordingly. 

again, I'm not counting out the fact that MvC2 is a fast game but I still feel that the elements in Smash makes for a game that requires more from you in a minute than MvC2, thus making for a faster game. 

Whatever you "feel," MvC2 simply requires more controller inputs from the player. Exactly how can Smash "require more from you in a minute" when second by second MvC2 requires more activity, pretty much unabated until the round is over?AfterShafter

Fine, whatever, you "win". End of conversation. I'm not dragging this on further than it has.

I will never buy 4 classic controllers just to play one game. SSBB is also one of the biggest Nintendo franchise so they would contradict themselves if they used another controller.

Hir0_N

But you would buy 3 more nunchucks and wiimotes? GC-controllers comes quite cheap now. 

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"]

Whatever you "feel," MvC2 simply requires more controller inputs from the player. Exactly how can Smash "require more from you in a minute" when second by second MvC2 requires more activity, pretty much unabated until the round is over?Redmoonxl2

Fine, whatever, you "win". End of conversation. I'm not dragging this on further than it has.

Tough to continue to argue when your points are supported more by how you "feel" than how things are...AfterShafter

I can argue but choose not to otherwise it'll keep on dragging. I simply don't have the patience for going on a 20+ page debate today. Sorry to disappoint you.

[QUOTE="Hir0_N"]

I will never buy 4 classic controllers just to play one game. SSBB is also one of the biggest Nintendo franchise so they would contradict themselves if they used another controller.

Cyberfairy

But you would buy 3 more nunchucks and wiimotes? GC-controllers comes quite cheap now. 

Didn't they already say that SSBB will use only the Wiimote like in Excite Truck?Supafly1