SSF2 vs SSFIV

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] Its a opinion plain and simple.. Some will enjoy one over the other.. There is no right answer in this..Aljosa23

Darn Labtops.

For some odd reason everytime I press backspace it would bring the entire back instead of deleting a simple letter.

But I'm determined to make this post :)

It is obvious that this doesn't require an argument.

Your credibility comes into question when you believe that one fighting game is "better" than the other.

1) You believe that one fighting game is "better" or more superior than the other.

It common knowledge that a fighting can't be better than the other, only different.

You have said that you have "played" KOF, Guilty Gear, and several others but still make a immature statement that Street Fighter 4 is "teh best" and better than all.

My analysis will say that you either haven't played or spent a significant enough time on any of these games to make a valid enough statement.

2) You believe that Super Smash Bros is not a fighting game.

Again, more proof that your knowledge on the matter is limited. Super Smash Bros is a fighting game, a different kind of fighting game, but a fighting game none the less.

This game has national and international tournaments, and such cases as EVO2K is featured with other fighting games.

This common knowledge, but obviously not for you. Thus, I refute. You knowledge on the matter is limited and I find your statement rather laughable.

Synthetic_NinJI

Please, spare me this "analysis" BS. You are randomly assuming I haven't spent enough time with these games on what criteria? Is it because I have a FFXIII sig and avatar?

And here's the kicker...you say all fighters are equal amirite? Yet earlier in the thread you said SFIV doesn't live up to SFIII. Seriously? Hypocrisy FTW.

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="everquestlove"]Get SF2 Remix SF4 is garbageHaziqonfire

Are you kidding? SFIV is the best fighter in the last decade.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]:|

Are you kidding? SFIV is the best fighter in the last decade.

Aljosa23

lol him.

Are you serious....So you think ALL fighting games are equal

You are randomly assuming I haven't spent enough time with these games on what criteria?

Yet earlier in the thread you said SFIV doesn't live up to SFIII. Seriously? Hypocrisy FTW.

amirite

"I think the game lacks originality, where as SF3 was one of the most original games every made. Thus, SF4 doesn't live up to SF3, IMO"

:|

But they are equal according to you. Stop backpedaling.

So basically you're contradicting yourself and spouting personal opinions to rebuttal my "SFIV is the best fighting game of the last decade". Spare me please, this won't get anywhere.

What other SF game has focus attacks, a revenge meter and ultras? Please tell me, because it's the same game as SFI, like you said they are equal and what not. :roll:

You're using your own opinions yet you won't let me.

Remake? :|

Go for SFIV. It's the best fighting game this decade. And get SF2: HD Remix if you can.

Aljosa23

What the hell happened to this thread :lol:

From what I've seen and read, SFIV is the superior game but what the hell is up with your reasoning TC?

SF4 is definitely more than a remake of SSF2. Whether it's worth $60 is up to you though. Fighters are either games that lasts forever or games that you can totally beat in 2 hours depending on who you ask. If you're not a hardcore fighter fan, I don't think you'll be happy having spent $60 for SF4. $30-40 is where I think the game is a really good deal.

Personally, I wish I didn't own it. I paid $60 for it. I didn't know about it then, but the spiritual successor to Guilty Gear is coming out in the US in lovely high def 2D animation. Not just that, but in June i'll be able to buy the best fighting game ever made for only $15, Marvel vs Capcom 2. Had I known about those two games, I never would have paid $60 for SF4. I probably never would have bought it.

But they are equal according to you.

What other SF game has focus attacks, a revenge meter and ultras?

You're using your own opinions yet you won't let me.

I have never heard this argument before on there forums or anywhere in general. If a game is better than one game it's for a few reasons or say the fun factor and whatever, it is MY opinion.

Why are fighting games so special that they can't be better or worse than each other? That doesn't make sense. You can believe what you want and I'll believe what I want. Maybe I think your opinion is laughable because you think all fighting games the same. Heck, I do think that point of view is laughable.

You voice your opinion and I'm fine with that, but I voice mine and suddenly I'm thick headed and dense. You serious? :roll:

Just because you don't want focus attacks or revenge meter doesn't mean you anything as you said what does it do new from other SF's. Focus attacks and Ultras are new to SF's and just because you don't want them doesn't discount them as new additions

My original of "SFIV is the best fighting game of this decade" was implied that it was MY opinion. And I still haven't been proven wrong by anyone, not even you with your deep and philosophical views on fighting games.

Edit: Oh yeah, and I forgot to mention, Mark of The Wolves has just defend and simple button combinations, and SFIII doesn't have ultra's it has Supers. Multiple selections is just dumbing down from alpha which gave you access to more then one super.

But they are equal according to you. Synthetic_NinJI

Yes. One fighting game would have something that I'm looking for over the other. *Sigh* Would you say that Dead or Alive 4 is better than Virtua Fighter 5 Would you say that Soul Caliber 4 is better than Tekken 6 Would you say that Marvel vs Capcom 2 is better than Guilty Gear X2 Would you say that Street Fighter 4 is better than KOF XII Better yet would you that one sport is better than the other? Or one martial art is better than the other? No, you won't not unless you are an extremely dense or thick minded person. One of these games, sports, or martial arts has something that appeals to you, something that you prefer. Maybe you was playing one of these games and you like the characters, the ease of closing the distance, and overall pacing of the game. THAT DOESN'T MAKE ONE GAME BETTER THAN THE OTHER I honestly don't know any other way to explain that :|

What other SF game has focus attacks, a revenge meter and ultras?

What other game has parrying, simply button combination's, and multiple selection in ultra attacks per character? What if I don't want focus attacks or a revenge meter :| See where this is going?

You're using your own opinions yet you won't let me.

I have yet to see an IMO in any of your statements.

Are you serious :|

He can say SF4 is the best/better if he finds that he enjoys the mechanics/balance better. What you are tellingus is that we should not have favourites or opinions of what we consider the best. Sorry but here is an example: I consider Yoshi's Island better than any other platformer period. This is not a dense opinion, it is my own, you can call it dense but until you start refuting it with some real points instead of throwing around insults you around you are just blowing hot air. If I can suport my notion with solid points there is no reason why I can't use a statement with words like "best" or "better"Your sports and martial artsexamples are flawed by the way.

I'm sorry but there are indeed ways to make a point about what is better and what is not. You look at what they offer objectively and from there make a decision. This whole you can't crap is rather ridiculous, what ifs are useless as it was not Aljosa's point. He is comparing objectively, you are using personal preference as a come back.

Finally, it should be assumed that anything he says is in his opinion. Typing IMO after every statement is stupid and using that as a point against him is just nit picking.

10$>60$

hansolo14

I like SF4 more. It helps since a lot of high level SF players moved on to SF4 here and hold sessions.

You can believe what you want and I'll believe what I want. Maybe I think your opinion is laughable because you think all fighting games the same

And I still haven't been proven wrong by anyone,not even you with your deep and philosophical views on fighting games.

[QUOTE="Senor_Kami"][QUOTE="JPOBS"]lol MvC isnt held in the same pedestal as SF in the fighting game community lol wtf are you on. JPOBS

Whatever you say dude, there is no point in argueing anymore with you. With that said.

Street Fighter IV is the BEST fighting game of the last decade.

He can say SF4 is the best/better if he finds that he enjoys the mechanics/balance better.

what you are tellingus is that we should not have favourites or opinions of what we consider the best

He is comparing objectively, you are using personal preference as a come back.

Typing IMO after every statement is stupid and using that as a point against him is just nit picking.

Whatever you say dude, there is no point in argueing anymore with you. With that said.

Street Fighter IV is the BEST fighting game of the last decade.

Aljosa23

Whatever you say dude, there is no point in argueing anymore with you. With that said.

Street Fighter IV is the BEST fighting game of the last decade.

Aljosa23

:lol: the best way you could have possibly ended this argument, good stuff guys.

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="everquestlove"]Get SF2 Remix SF4 is garbageyoshi_64

Are you kidding? SFIV is the best fighter in the last decade.

DOA4 is clunky after playing SF4....and faster? LOL.

[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"]

Darn Labtops.

For some odd reason everytime I press backspace it would bring the entire back instead of deleting a simple letter.

But I'm determined to make this post :)

It is obvious that this doesn't require an argument.

Your credibility comes into question when you believe that one fighting game is "better" than the other.

1) You believe that one fighting game is "better" or more superior than the other.

It common knowledge that a fighting can't be better than the other, only different.

You have said that you have "played" KOF, Guilty Gear, and several others but still make a immature statement that Street Fighter 4 is "teh best" and better than all.

My analysis will say that you either haven't played or spent a significant enough time on any of these games to make a valid enough statement.

2) You believe that Super Smash Bros is not a fighting game.

Again, more proof that your knowledge on the matter is limited. Super Smash Bros is a fighting game, a different kind of fighting game, but a fighting game none the less.

This game has national and international tournaments, and such cases as EVO2K is featured with other fighting games.

This common knowledge, but obviously not for you. Thus, I refute. You knowledge on the matter is limited and I find your statement rather laughable.

Aljosa23

Please, spare me this "analysis" BS. You are randomly assuming I haven't spent enough time with these games on what criteria? Is it because I have a FFXIII sig and avatar?

And here's the kicker...you say all fighters are equal amirite? Yet earlier in the thread you said SFIV doesn't live up to SFIII. Seriously? Hypocrisy FTW.

[QUOTE="Stoner-Pimp"]Think of it like this. SF2 HD Remix if your really into technical fighting with proper hardcore SF2 players. SF4 if your into the more casual "soul calabre/DoA" fighters with dare i say it more noobish players. SF4 is good but SF2 is better.tok1879

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

Whatever you say dude, there is no point in argueing anymore with you. With that said.

Street Fighter IV is the BEST fighting game of the last decade.

tok1879

From what I've played, I think SFIV is much much better than HD Remix.

Definitely not best game of the decade though, maybe best this gen. The decade one would have to be MvC2:)

[QUOTE="hansolo14"]

10$>60$

nethernova

sf4 is the better game, but if your a hard core pro player, get the hd remix. if your not a hardcore player you will get your *** handed to you with a side of french fries in remix. thats not to say there are no hard core players playing sf4.

Hardcore fighter fans are by far the most elitest of gamers... you simply cannot talk to them. They think their word is the law.

I say rent SFIV and see if it's worth it. If not, The virtual console version plays as good as it has back in the day.

And don't have high hopes for online play... it is a concept that simply does not work for fighters... on any game or platform. Even with the best ping, it is not playable. The genre requires precise control/response.

From what I've played, I think SFIV is much much better than HD Remix.

Definitely not best game of the decade though, maybe best this gen. The decade one would have to be MvC2:)

kholdstare61

I lost interest in Street Figher games after SFA3 and SvC2, and wasn't looking forward to SF4. SF4 blew me away after playing it. Haven't had this much fun playing fighters in a long time.

Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo Remix is great but Street Fighter 4 has more value and good online play.

I don't know why some people would chose SFII HD Remix. Then again, I was spoiled by the New Challengers Edition for the SNES I suppose.

[QUOTE="hansolo14"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]:|

Are you kidding? SFIV is the best fighter in the last decade.

Aljosa23

Are you kidding? Smash is the best fighter in the last decade

Exactly what this guy said. Smash Bros has an awful fighting system. I'm not sure how any real fighting game fan likes it.

Smash Bros. is not a fighter. It's a party game with Nintendo characters.

Aljosa23

Al, must I pull your ear over a statement like that? :P Smash is a fighting game. It may not be all that great after Nintendo's screwup of Brawl, but its a fighting game nonetheless.

Also, between SSF2T and SF4, I cannot make a judgment since I have yet to play SF4. However, after years of SSF2T play, thats a tough act to follow especially since SSF2T is still being played nearly 2 decades later.

SFIV is much better to be quite honest. You can trust my knowledge in fighting games.A_zombie

Your ass hasn't been in GGPO for awhile! And don't give me that "I gotz maried lulz" excuse.

I expect you to be my SF4 PC partner as well, dammit.