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#1 Danthegamingman

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Mass Effect http://www.joystiq.com/2007/02/27/mass-effect-to-fit-snugly-onto-one-disc/ and Oblivion are massive games with beautiful graphics and they fit just fine on one DVD.

Saints Row and Crackdown have huge open-end sandbox worlds and fit just fine on one DVD.

Proponents for Blu-ray can argue until your BLUE in the face, but Blu-ray is not needed.............another marketing point for PS3 down the drain.

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Blue Dragon is on 3 dvds. If Final Fantasy 13 hit the 360 it would probably be on 5-7 dvds.

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Blue Dragon is on 3 dvds. If Final Fantasy 13 hit the 360 it would probably be on 5-7 dvds. Carmilla31

Thats fine.

As long as I dont have to wait 30 mins for each load.

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#4 amcallister902

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[QUOTE="Carmilla31"]Blue Dragon is on 3 dvds. If Final Fantasy 13 hit the 360 it would probably be on 5-7 dvds. billing

Thats fine.

As long as I dont have to wait 30 mins for each load.

dont be stupid! that is not fine. thats a disgrace. and if mass effect just fits on one disc, then that is the biggest, possibly best game 360 will see. ps3 can handle much larger games as can blu ray.

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Blue Dragon is on 3 dvds. If Final Fantasy 13 hit the 360 it would probably be on 5-7 dvds. Carmilla31

So FF13 is a 50 gig game now? Well then in a year PS3 owners are going to be swapping discs because games will exceed that, which inturn exceeds a blu-ray disc. for the record, i was being sarcastic...

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Blue Dragon is on 3 dvds. If Final Fantasy 13 hit the 360 it would probably be on 5-7 dvds. Carmilla31

From what I understood, the game Blue Dragon itself isn't on three DVD's. The game itself was on 1/2 DVD's due to cutscenes and whatnot and the remaining 1/2 DVD's were extra content. Not sure about this though.

But I can't seem to believe DVD9 holds too little capicity for this generation. At least, not for Microsoft in any way. They were suppose to announce their new machine in 2010 or so. I don't think we'll see huge amounts of games on multiple discs by that time. Infact, I think rarely any.

And if we do, really, what's the trouble of changing a disc? I never quite understood that. You are changing discs all the time because you play different games. So what's the trouble in changing a disc after 30 hours into a game? It's a weak arguement to justify Blu Ray games by saying: 'Yeah... well... we don't have to change a disc!' because you are changing discs when you want to play a different game anyway. I don't see the 'ownage' in having to change a disc somewhere in a long single player.

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Blue Dragon is on 3 dvds. If Final Fantasy 13 hit the 360 it would probably be on 5-7 dvds. Carmilla31

5-7 LMAO, don't believe it for a second

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[QUOTE="Carmilla31"]Blue Dragon is on 3 dvds. If Final Fantasy 13 hit the 360 it would probably be on 5-7 dvds. amcallister902

Thats fine.

As long as I dont have to wait 30 mins for each load.

dont be stupid! that is not fine. thats a disgrace. and if mass effect just fits on one disc, then that is the biggest, possibly best game 360 will see. ps3 can handle much larger games as can blu ray.

How is it a disgrace? Swapping discs isnt new. People did it with the PS1, PS2 and even some PC games. I dont see what the problem is unless your are lazy.

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[QUOTE="Carmilla31"]Blue Dragon is on 3 dvds. If Final Fantasy 13 hit the 360 it would probably be on 5-7 dvds. TheTrueEdge

From what I understood, the game Blue Dragon itself isn't on three DVD's. The game itself was on 1/2 DVD's due to cutscenes and whatnot and the remaining 1/2 DVD's were extra content. Not sure about this though.

But I can't seem to believe DVD9 holds too little capicity for this generation. At least, not for Microsoft in any way. They were suppose to announce their new machine in 2010 or so. I don't think we'll see huge amounts of games on multiple discs by that time. Infact, I think rarely any.

And if we do, really, what's the trouble of changing a disc? I never quite understood that. You are changing discs all the time because you play different games. So what's the trouble in changing a disc after 30 hours into a game? It's a weak arguement to justify Blu Ray games by saying: 'Yeah... well... we don't have to change a disc!' because you are changing discs when you want to play a different game anyway. I don't see the 'ownage' in having to change a disc somewhere in a long single player.

Blue Dragon is on 3 dvds because of its huge amount of cgi which takes up a lot of disc space. Final Fantasy is the king of cgi and would take much more then 3 discs. And sure changing discs isnt a big deal. But having it on one disc is just a little perk that most would rather have.

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[QUOTE="Carmilla31"]Blue Dragon is on 3 dvds. If Final Fantasy 13 hit the 360 it would probably be on 5-7 dvds. amcallister902

Thats fine.

As long as I dont have to wait 30 mins for each load.

dont be stupid! that is not fine. thats a disgrace. and if mass effect just fits on one disc, then that is the biggest, possibly best game 360 will see. ps3 can handle much larger games as can blu ray.

It is fine. We've already had plenty of multi-disk games before on the PS1, PS2, GC, etc. and it wasn't at all troublesome to just pop in a second disk... Blu-Ray does solve this but that's just a small benefit. Blu-Ray caused part of the PS3's high price and is going to have some load time issues... DVD's for gaming this generation are fine, so far with Oblivion and Mass Effect we've seen how much they can fit in a DVD and even if they go over to two DVD's, who cares? It's just popping in a second disk, if you can't do that how do you even bother putting the first disk in the machine in the first place? Really you people are just lazy and looking for an excuse to demote DVD's because you've got Blu-Ray...

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Mass Effect http://www.joystiq.com/2007/02/27/mass-effect-to-fit-snugly-onto-one-disc/ and Oblivion are massive games with beautiful graphics and they fit just fine on one DVD.
Saints Row and Crackdown have huge open-end sandbox worlds and fit just fine on one DVD.
Proponents for Blu-ray can argue until your BLUE in the face, but Blu-ray is not needed.............another marketing point for PS3 down the drain.
Danthegamingman

Not needed buy you because your system on choice doesn't have, so need to discuss something you don't have!!

If MS had it on the 360 then you would have thought it was a great idea!

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#13 SuperVegeta518

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Blue Dragon has CGI. We just won't see CGI anymore, and everything will fit on one DVD. If cows really think that there will be games that cost $100million this generation, just let them keep thinking that because it will cost that much money to make a game so huge that Blu-Ray is needed.

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What is wrong with changing a disc, it takes like 5 seconds. I don't even think we will really need larger disc space until next-gen. Only RPG's really need more than one right now because of their CGI cutscenes, voice-overs, ect. But even then it's no big deal.

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It technology allows one disc then why not use it? How many of you would like if your next music cd had a 'A' side and a "B' side like casettes did. So after half the songs you have to flip the disc? Why use older technology if the new one is available?

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#16 mjarantilla

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Blue Dragon is on 3 dvds. If Final Fantasy 13 hit the 360 it would probably be on 5-7 dvds. Carmilla31

What a coincidence. All JRPGs.

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#17 TheTrueEdge

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[QUOTE="Carmilla31"]Blue Dragon is on 3 dvds because of its huge amount of cgi which takes up a lot of disc space. Final Fantasy is the king of cgi and would take much more then 3 discs. And sure changing discs isnt a big deal. But having it on one disc is just a little perk that most would rather have.

Offcourse you rather have it on one disc, but it isn't really a system selling feature. Nor needed. It's like sleeping in the bathroom so you can immediately take a shower when you wake up instead of walking to it. :P

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[QUOTE="TheTrueEdge"][QUOTE="Carmilla31"]Blue Dragon is on 3 dvds. If Final Fantasy 13 hit the 360 it would probably be on 5-7 dvds. Carmilla31

From what I understood, the game Blue Dragon itself isn't on three DVD's. The game itself was on 1/2 DVD's due to cutscenes and whatnot and the remaining 1/2 DVD's were extra content. Not sure about this though.

But I can't seem to believe DVD9 holds too little capicity for this generation. At least, not for Microsoft in any way. They were suppose to announce their new machine in 2010 or so. I don't think we'll see huge amounts of games on multiple discs by that time. Infact, I think rarely any.

And if we do, really, what's the trouble of changing a disc? I never quite understood that. You are changing discs all the time because you play different games. So what's the trouble in changing a disc after 30 hours into a game? It's a weak arguement to justify Blu Ray games by saying: 'Yeah... well... we don't have to change a disc!' because you are changing discs when you want to play a different game anyway. I don't see the 'ownage' in having to change a disc somewhere in a long single player.

Blue Dragon is on 3 dvds because of its huge amount of cgi which takes up a lot of disc space. Final Fantasy is the king of cgi and would take much more then 3 discs. And sure changing discs isnt a big deal. But having it on one disc is just a little perk that most would rather have.

Acutally,

The Dev of Blue Dragon just got lazy to compress their data correctly.

I'm pretty sure they could of shoved all the information in one DVD if they took their time.

Mass Effect proves me correct.

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#19 purplemidgets

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Hmm, this sounds familiar. I seem to remember hearing people complaing that "CDS R GUD 4 GAMES DVDS RNT NEEDED!!"
Look how times have changes.

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[QUOTE="Carmilla31"][QUOTE="TheTrueEdge"][QUOTE="Carmilla31"]Blue Dragon is on 3 dvds. If Final Fantasy 13 hit the 360 it would probably be on 5-7 dvds. billing

From what I understood, the game Blue Dragon itself isn't on three DVD's. The game itself was on 1/2 DVD's due to cutscenes and whatnot and the remaining 1/2 DVD's were extra content. Not sure about this though.

But I can't seem to believe DVD9 holds too little capicity for this generation. At least, not for Microsoft in any way. They were suppose to announce their new machine in 2010 or so. I don't think we'll see huge amounts of games on multiple discs by that time. Infact, I think rarely any.

And if we do, really, what's the trouble of changing a disc? I never quite understood that. You are changing discs all the time because you play different games. So what's the trouble in changing a disc after 30 hours into a game? It's a weak arguement to justify Blu Ray games by saying: 'Yeah... well... we don't have to change a disc!' because you are changing discs when you want to play a different game anyway. I don't see the 'ownage' in having to change a disc somewhere in a long single player.

Blue Dragon is on 3 dvds because of its huge amount of cgi which takes up a lot of disc space. Final Fantasy is the king of cgi and would take much more then 3 discs. And sure changing discs isnt a big deal. But having it on one disc is just a little perk that most would rather have.

Acutally,

The Dev of Blue Dragon just got lazy to compress their data correctly.

I'm pretty sure they could of shoved all the information in one DVD if they took their time.

Mass Effect proves me correct.

It isn't on 360 so why even worry about it, you don't have to purchase it, or deal with so why even bother complaining about something you don't have or don't plan on getting!

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#21 TheTrueEdge

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Hmm, this sounds familiar. I seem to remember hearing people complaing that "CDS R GUD 4 GAMES DVDS RNT NEEDED!!"
Look how times have changes.
purplemidgets

No one denies bigger capicity is needed at some point. Me, and allot of other people just don't think that it's needed at this point. And so far we have been right.

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#22 mjarantilla

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[QUOTE="Carmilla31"][QUOTE="TheTrueEdge"][QUOTE="Carmilla31"]Blue Dragon is on 3 dvds. If Final Fantasy 13 hit the 360 it would probably be on 5-7 dvds. Ericvon71

From what I understood, the game Blue Dragon itself isn't on three DVD's. The game itself was on 1/2 DVD's due to cutscenes and whatnot and the remaining 1/2 DVD's were extra content. Not sure about this though.

But I can't seem to believe DVD9 holds too little capicity for this generation. At least, not for Microsoft in any way. They were suppose to announce their new machine in 2010 or so. I don't think we'll see huge amounts of games on multiple discs by that time. Infact, I think rarely any.

And if we do, really, what's the trouble of changing a disc? I never quite understood that. You are changing discs all the time because you play different games. So what's the trouble in changing a disc after 30 hours into a game? It's a weak arguement to justify Blu Ray games by saying: 'Yeah... well... we don't have to change a disc!' because you are changing discs when you want to play a different game anyway. I don't see the 'ownage' in having to change a disc somewhere in a long single player.

Blue Dragon is on 3 dvds because of its huge amount of cgi which takes up a lot of disc space. Final Fantasy is the king of cgi and would take much more then 3 discs. And sure changing discs isnt a big deal. But having it on one disc is just a little perk that most would rather have.

Acutally,

The Dev of Blue Dragon just got lazy to compress their data correctly.

I'm pretty sure they could of shoved all the information in one DVD if they took their time.

Mass Effect proves me correct.

It isn't on 360 so why even worry about it, you don't have to purchase it, or deal with so why even bother complaining about something you don't have or don't plan on getting!

Uh, Blue Dragon is a 360 exclusive.

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#23 TheTrueEdge

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It isn't on 360 so why even worry about it, you don't have to purchase it, or deal with so why even bother complaining about something you don't have or don't plan on getting!
Ericvon71

Did you just state Blue Dragon isn't on the X360 or did I just understood wrong?

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#24 purplemidgets

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No one denies bigger capicity is needed at some point. Me, and allot of other people just don't think that it's needed at this point. And so far we have been right.
TheTrueEdge

With Mass Effect "just barely" fitting on one, wouldn't you think it's about the time to move on? I would think it's better to move on now before we fill the thing up.

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[QUOTE="Carmilla31"][QUOTE="TheTrueEdge"][QUOTE="Carmilla31"]Blue Dragon is on 3 dvds. If Final Fantasy 13 hit the 360 it would probably be on 5-7 dvds. billing

From what I understood, the game Blue Dragon itself isn't on three DVD's. The game itself was on 1/2 DVD's due to cutscenes and whatnot and the remaining 1/2 DVD's were extra content. Not sure about this though.

But I can't seem to believe DVD9 holds too little capicity for this generation. At least, not for Microsoft in any way. They were suppose to announce their new machine in 2010 or so. I don't think we'll see huge amounts of games on multiple discs by that time. Infact, I think rarely any.

And if we do, really, what's the trouble of changing a disc? I never quite understood that. You are changing discs all the time because you play different games. So what's the trouble in changing a disc after 30 hours into a game? It's a weak arguement to justify Blu Ray games by saying: 'Yeah... well... we don't have to change a disc!' because you are changing discs when you want to play a different game anyway. I don't see the 'ownage' in having to change a disc somewhere in a long single player.

Blue Dragon is on 3 dvds because of its huge amount of cgi which takes up a lot of disc space. Final Fantasy is the king of cgi and would take much more then 3 discs. And sure changing discs isnt a big deal. But having it on one disc is just a little perk that most would rather have.

Acutally,

The Dev of Blue Dragon just got lazy to compress their data correctly.

I'm pretty sure they could of shoved all the information in one DVD if they took their time.

Mass Effect proves me correct.

So every time a 360 game goes onto multiple discs you can chalk it up to lazy developers. Makes sense...

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[QUOTE="TheTrueEdge"]

No one denies bigger capicity is needed at some point. Me, and allot of other people just don't think that it's needed at this point. And so far we have been right.
purplemidgets

With Mass Effect "just barely" fitting on one, wouldn't you think it's about the time to move on? I would think it's better to move on now before we fill the thing up.

Actually Mass Effect proves that data compression technology is still improving.

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Only thing them guys are short on is sense.

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[QUOTE="Carmilla31"][QUOTE="TheTrueEdge"][QUOTE="Carmilla31"]Blue Dragon is on 3 dvds. If Final Fantasy 13 hit the 360 it would probably be on 5-7 dvds. Carmilla31

From what I understood, the game Blue Dragon itself isn't on three DVD's. The game itself was on 1/2 DVD's due to cutscenes and whatnot and the remaining 1/2 DVD's were extra content. Not sure about this though.

But I can't seem to believe DVD9 holds too little capicity for this generation. At least, not for Microsoft in any way. They were suppose to announce their new machine in 2010 or so. I don't think we'll see huge amounts of games on multiple discs by that time. Infact, I think rarely any.

And if we do, really, what's the trouble of changing a disc? I never quite understood that. You are changing discs all the time because you play different games. So what's the trouble in changing a disc after 30 hours into a game? It's a weak arguement to justify Blu Ray games by saying: 'Yeah... well... we don't have to change a disc!' because you are changing discs when you want to play a different game anyway. I don't see the 'ownage' in having to change a disc somewhere in a long single player.

Blue Dragon is on 3 dvds because of its huge amount of cgi which takes up a lot of disc space. Final Fantasy is the king of cgi and would take much more then 3 discs. And sure changing discs isnt a big deal. But having it on one disc is just a little perk that most would rather have.

Acutally,

The Dev of Blue Dragon just got lazy to compress their data correctly.

I'm pretty sure they could of shoved all the information in one DVD if they took their time.

Mass Effect proves me correct.

So every time a 360 game goes onto multiple discs you can chalk it up to lazy developers. Makes sense...

How would you explain the reasons for an enormous game like Mass Effect fitting in one DVD

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[QUOTE="Carmilla31"][QUOTE="billing"]
[QUOTE="Carmilla31"][QUOTE="TheTrueEdge"][QUOTE="Carmilla31"]Blue Dragon is on 3 dvds. If Final Fantasy 13 hit the 360 it would probably be on 5-7 dvds. billing

From what I understood, the game Blue Dragon itself isn't on three DVD's. The game itself was on 1/2 DVD's due to cutscenes and whatnot and the remaining 1/2 DVD's were extra content. Not sure about this though.

But I can't seem to believe DVD9 holds too little capicity for this generation. At least, not for Microsoft in any way. They were suppose to announce their new machine in 2010 or so. I don't think we'll see huge amounts of games on multiple discs by that time. Infact, I think rarely any.

And if we do, really, what's the trouble of changing a disc? I never quite understood that. You are changing discs all the time because you play different games. So what's the trouble in changing a disc after 30 hours into a game? It's a weak arguement to justify Blu Ray games by saying: 'Yeah... well... we don't have to change a disc!' because you are changing discs when you want to play a different game anyway. I don't see the 'ownage' in having to change a disc somewhere in a long single player.

Blue Dragon is on 3 dvds because of its huge amount of cgi which takes up a lot of disc space. Final Fantasy is the king of cgi and would take much more then 3 discs. And sure changing discs isnt a big deal. But having it on one disc is just a little perk that most would rather have.

Acutally,

The Dev of Blue Dragon just got lazy to compress their data correctly.

I'm pretty sure they could of shoved all the information in one DVD if they took their time.

Mass Effect proves me correct.

So every time a 360 game goes onto multiple discs you can chalk it up to lazy developers. Makes sense...

How would you explain the reasons for an enormous game like Mass Effect fitting in one DVD

Not as mush cgi as Blue Dragon or Final Fantasy?

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#30 musicalmac Moderator

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I'm not quite sure why mutliple dvd's is disgraceful. I didn't hear anyone complaining when they played games like FFVII... How does this really change the game? It doesn't. Don't be silly.

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#31 Blinblingthing

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Mass Effect http://www.joystiq.com/2007/02/27/mass-effect-to-fit-snugly-onto-one-disc/ and Oblivion are massive games with beautiful graphics and they fit just fine on one DVD.
Saints Row and Crackdown have huge open-end sandbox worlds and fit just fine on one DVD.
Proponents for Blu-ray can argue until your BLUE in the face, but Blu-ray is not needed.............another marketing point for PS3 down the drain.
Danthegamingman

GT 4 was more than 7 Gb. Are you telling me that GT5 won't need Blue-ray?

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#32 purplemidgets

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Actually Mass Effect proves that data compression technology is still improving.
billing

You can only compress data so much. And you can't continue compressing the data to extremes on old dvd drives, because the more you compress the longer the read times are. You need a coupling of compressing and new drives/disc formats.

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[QUOTE="billing"][QUOTE="Carmilla31"][QUOTE="billing"]
[QUOTE="Carmilla31"][QUOTE="TheTrueEdge"][QUOTE="Carmilla31"]Blue Dragon is on 3 dvds. If Final Fantasy 13 hit the 360 it would probably be on 5-7 dvds. Carmilla31

From what I understood, the game Blue Dragon itself isn't on three DVD's. The game itself was on 1/2 DVD's due to cutscenes and whatnot and the remaining 1/2 DVD's were extra content. Not sure about this though.

But I can't seem to believe DVD9 holds too little capicity for this generation. At least, not for Microsoft in any way. They were suppose to announce their new machine in 2010 or so. I don't think we'll see huge amounts of games on multiple discs by that time. Infact, I think rarely any.

And if we do, really, what's the trouble of changing a disc? I never quite understood that. You are changing discs all the time because you play different games. So what's the trouble in changing a disc after 30 hours into a game? It's a weak arguement to justify Blu Ray games by saying: 'Yeah... well... we don't have to change a disc!' because you are changing discs when you want to play a different game anyway. I don't see the 'ownage' in having to change a disc somewhere in a long single player.

Blue Dragon is on 3 dvds because of its huge amount of cgi which takes up a lot of disc space. Final Fantasy is the king of cgi and would take much more then 3 discs. And sure changing discs isnt a big deal. But having it on one disc is just a little perk that most would rather have.

Acutally,

The Dev of Blue Dragon just got lazy to compress their data correctly.

I'm pretty sure they could of shoved all the information in one DVD if they took their time.

Mass Effect proves me correct.

So every time a 360 game goes onto multiple discs you can chalk it up to lazy developers. Makes sense...

How would you explain the reasons for an enormous game like Mass Effect fitting in one DVD

Not as mush cgi as Blue Dragon or Final Fantasy?

From what I've seen the game has plenty of cgi cut-scenes.

Final verdict May 22, 2007

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#34 Blinblingthing

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I'm not quite sure why mutliple dvd's is disgraceful. I didn't hear anyone complaining when they played games like FFVII... How does this really change the game? It doesn't. Don't be silly.musicalmac

So because you do something years ago, means its ok now????

E.G I never minded wired controllers last or many gens before that, But this gen I believe wireless controller should be standard, How about you?

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#35 purplemidgets

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I'm not quite sure why mutliple dvd's is disgraceful. I didn't hear anyone complaining when they played games like FFVII... How does this really change the game? It doesn't. Don't be silly.musicalmac

A game like GTA or any other open world game (Which a lot of games are moving towards). Cannot be played on multiple disks.

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I'm not quite sure why mutliple dvd's is disgraceful. I didn't hear anyone complaining when they played games like FFVII... How does this really change the game? It doesn't. Don't be silly.musicalmac

If FF7 had PS2 graphics it would take 7 cds. If FF7 had PS3 graphics it would take 10+ cds. But with dvds, and now Blu-ray, it would all fit on one disc. You need to move forward with technology.

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Mass Effect barely fits onto one disk..and they have to squeeze everythin together..lol..talkin about over doin it..lets see if it still looks good and not like cra*..

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[QUOTE="Carmilla31"]Blue Dragon is on 3 dvds. If Final Fantasy 13 hit the 360 it would probably be on 5-7 dvds. amcallister902

Thats fine.

As long as I dont have to wait 30 mins for each load.

dont be stupid! that is not fine. thats a disgrace. and if mass effect just fits on one disc, then that is the biggest, possibly best game 360 will see. ps3 can handle much larger games as can blu ray.

too bad 1/2 the time you spend playing a PS3 game that size will be spent waiting and waiting for the loading screen to pass by.....:lol:

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Mass Effect barely fits onto one disk..and they have to squeeze everythin together..lol..talkin about over doin it..lets see if it still looks good and not like cra*..ps3gen

judging by the latest screens that BioWare has released, Mass Effect destroys everything the PS3 has shown it's capable of at this time.....I'd take a new IP over MGS4, GT5, DMC4, Tekken 6, VF5, FF13 any day.....especially when it's from BioWare.

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#40 musicalmac Moderator

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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]I'm not quite sure why mutliple dvd's is disgraceful. I didn't hear anyone complaining when they played games like FFVII... How does this really change the game? It doesn't. Don't be silly.Carmilla31

If FF7 had PS2 graphics it would take 7 cds. If FF7 had PS3 graphics it would take 10+ cds. But with dvds, and now Blu-ray, it would all fit on one disc. You need to move forward with technology.

You did the math? Are those numbers exact? If not, don't give me numbers. Moving forward with technology is great, but I don't see why swapping a disc is a huge problem. I don't know why it's an issue. Sounds like bitter PS3 owners grabbing at air...

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#41 hyruledweller

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back in the day Baldurs Gate II was on 5 discs i think, never really had a problem then.

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#42 purplemidgets

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back in the day Baldurs Gate II was on 5 discs i think, never really had a problem then.hyruledweller

Because it was PC game that was installed on your computer. You never had to swap discs after installation. This is a completely different situation.

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#43 meischris39

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If it spills to 2 Dvds it is a problem. A cost problem anyway, 2 dvds costs much more than 1 blu ray disk FACT.

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#44 musicalmac Moderator

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If it spills to 2 Dvds it is a problem. A cost problem anyway, 2 dvds costs much more than 1 blu ray disk FACT.meischris39

Show me. I'll believe you if you show me. Because I honestly don't know, and when someone says, "FACT" in caps, I need proof.

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#45 purplemidgets

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If it spills to 2 Dvds it is a problem. A cost problem anyway, 2 dvds costs much more than 1 blu ray disk FACT.meischris39

Can you prove that?

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Blue Dragon being the only game on multiple discs pretty much proves that Bluray isn't necessary. Compression is only getting better as well. Bluray isn't necessary for movies either. The differences between Bluray and DVD are minimal. It's nice to have that extra storage space but it wasn't needed by any means.

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#47 hyruledweller

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[QUOTE="hyruledweller"]back in the day Baldurs Gate II was on 5 discs i think, never really had a problem then.purplemidgets

Because it was PC game that was installed on your computer. You never had to swap discs after installation. This is a completely different situation.

??? I did, at certain times in the game, it asked you to change to disc 2,3,4 or whatever.

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#48 purplemidgets

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Blue Dragon being the only game on multiple discs pretty much proves that Bluray isn't necessary. Compression is only getting better as well. Bluray isn't necessary for movies either. The differences between Bluray and DVD are minimal. It's nice to have that extra storage space but it wasn't needed by any means. Puckhog04

Maybe since it was on the last page, I'll restate this:

Games are near the limit of a DVD. It's a fact. Mass Effect "just barely" fitting on a disc proves that. The problem with constantly compressing the data on tha disc is that old DVD drives cannot read the information as fast. So as you continue compressing, load times go up, way up. You can't just rely on that one method alone. You need new drives/discs and compression.

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#49 mjarantilla

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Mass Effect http://www.joystiq.com/2007/02/27/mass-effect-to-fit-snugly-onto-one-disc/ and Oblivion are massive games with beautiful graphics and they fit just fine on one DVD.
Saints Row and Crackdown have huge open-end sandbox worlds and fit just fine on one DVD.
Proponents for Blu-ray can argue until your BLUE in the face, but Blu-ray is not needed.............another marketing point for PS3 down the drain.
Blinblingthing

GT 4 was more than 7 Gb. Are you telling me that GT5 won't need Blue-ray?

GT4 was not more than 7GB.

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#50 animation_imp

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The devs of Mass Effect said they had to be real inventive cramming everything on one disc... Surely if that is the case so early in a console's life span, then one can estimate the nescessary disc size still has to increase... I don't think disc-swapping is all that bad, but still, a larger storage medium would mean even larger possibilities... Imagine a game needing two or three blu-ray discs... So maybe, just maybe it is safe to say the dvd disc space will form (and already forms) a barier, resulting in precious dev time wasted in finding smart sollutions or editing the project by removing fmv's and other high demand content. I still think it isn't unimaginable that HD DVD games will be released for the 360 in the future.

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