Star Citizen, Wing Commander creator says PC held back by consoles

Some guy who made a game thinks something. Of all the guys who made games that think something, this was apparantly notable.

Cool.

SPYDER0416

Sure better topic for a thread than the garbage that fills 90% of SW nowadays.

[QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]

Graphics, ugh huh. Yet, the gameplay remains the same. And the average gamers don't have to shell in $1000 for a PC just for it to be outdated within a couple of years.

AdrianWerner

which is a really minor portion of the market, if thats his aim then consoles arent holding him back and he's just spouting silly nonsense to jump on the little bandwagon.

which is a really minor portion of the market, if thats his aim then consoles arent holding him back and he's just spouting silly nonsense to jump on the little bandwagon.

razgriz_101

It is a minot portion of the market, but it's more than enough to support big budgeted game like this. At least that's what Chris believes and he intends to prove it.

And most big budgeted games these days are multiplat, so consoles do end up holding devs back. So I don't see where did you find the nonsense part.

He wants to make it PC only because he doesn't want to be held back by consoles. If he went for multiplat route his vision would end up severly compromised.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] I was more thinking the web site... the whole "they said PC was dead" rhetoric.lowe0

you mean this?:P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DqIC2B9UVPM#!

i wont deny that he comes off as a fanboy,but he's on a mission to promote and fund a game to PC gamers.

Its all about the hype :D

Plus he is speaking the truth.

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

which is a really minor portion of the market, if thats his aim then consoles arent holding him back and he's just spouting silly nonsense to jump on the little bandwagon.

AdrianWerner

It is a minot portion of the market, but it's more than enough to support big budgeted game like this. At least that's what Chris believes and he intends to prove it.

And most big budgeted games these days are multiplat, so consoles do end up holding devs back. So I don't see where did you find the nonsense part.

He wants to make it PC only because he doesn't want to be held back by consoles. If he went for multiplat route his vision would end up severly compromised.

his game in the end wouldnt do well on consoles, it doesnt really appeal to that target demographic so it would have been an uneccesary budget expense for them at the same time.

Console developers only really hold themselves back in their mentality of not really pushing, Forza horizon pushed the 360 pretty far its a looker and its got some nifty little quirks in it.

In a lot of cases in my book the genre's and the market trends themselves are more what hold back gaming sure budget plays a role but i feel devlopers realy should try more nearly in every media industry nowadays the same arguement of budgets and trends are holding back artists and studios from really trying.

If people as a whole were more open (inb4 PC gamers are more open minded is a silly statement sicne they feed from the same troughs as console gamers most of the time) we might see more people trying new things within the limits we already have at the same time we're hitting a point of stagnation where we cant really come up with new things in certain genre's and only improve and has been a recurring trend the past decade.

his game in the end wouldnt do well on consoles, it doesnt really appeal to that target demographic so it would have been an uneccesary budget expense for them at the same time.razgriz_101

That's kind of the problem though, isn't it? Publishers avoid funding big budgeted games that do not appeal to console demographics. Most of the time when PC devs wants to do it, they need to secure funding from other sources. This has become possible only recently, which is why Chris could return to the industry.

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

his game in the end wouldnt do well on consoles, it doesnt really appeal to that target demographic so it would have been an uneccesary budget expense for them at the same time.AdrianWerner

That's kind of the problem though, isn't it? Publishers avoid funding big budgeted games that do not appeal to console demographics. Most of the time when PC devs wants to do it, they need to secure funding from other sources. This has become possible only recently, which is why Chris could return to the industry.

So it's actually publishers who are holding back PC gaming by forcing console-centric development?

Make up your minds already...

As far as I remember, the Wing Commander series were always very expensive to make (due to cutting-edge tech and many high-quality FMVs) and appealing to a select audience.

So basically we're talking about a niche title with high budget.

It's actually the console companies like Sony and MS that could back up such projects rather than PC publishers.

Consoles shouldn't exist, full stop. Everything should be on PC.

I can't wait for Star Citizen. It looks awesome!

GamerwillzPS

lol wow, you've become so bitter

Huh?

I just boot my PC up and give the game a double click, and off I go!

But I can understand why people buy consoles though, they're for computer illiterates who haven't got a clue how computers works and how to upgrade the parts inside computers.

If you are techy and knows all of this stuff, you should game on PC otherwise it just doesn't make sense.

GamerwillzPS

Looks like what's holding back Star Citizen more than anything is the terrible art design. Ships look like old plastic models put together by kids with ADHD.JamDev

Oh well. They still look better than anything on console land. It's not like starships in console games have good design either.

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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

So which is better, according to you?

(you're not allowed to go back in the Ultima/Wizardry/Baldur's Gate times since we're talking about "modern" RPGs btw)

nameless12345

Witcher 2.

That's debatable.

Visually and story-wise it is, but gameplay-wise - I do not agree.

PCs are more powerful than consoles. They are also more powerful than other PCs, and they are less powerful than other PCs. They are more compatible than some PCs, and they are lesss compatible than some.

The fact is, if a developer really wants to make a game that pushes tech they are free to do so. The reason they don't is that they want to sell more than 600 copies of the game.

Take consoles out of the equation, and you still have the same problem, as the enthusiast PC gamer is a small group among PC gamers, and if a game company wants to sell a lot they need to make sure their game can run on realtively modest hardware.

Pug-Nasty

Dark Souls have clunky controls . Outdated UI and other stuff . The Witcher 2 is best RPG of this generation , gameplay is fun not broken which is known as difficulty in DS.Cloud_imperium

lol consoles

Please, I am begging you make another Wing CommanderHarlockJC