Star Wars 1313: Looks like TLOU isn't the only game with Indirect Shadows.

As you all know since the release of in game footage for TLOU, Everyone was surprised and shocked to see it's doing Indirect Shadows for the first time in real time (Not just on SW, But on various sites like Beyond3D etc etc), Well i've got bad news for ya'.

Now look closely and observe how Star Wars 1313/Unreal Engine 3 does this.

This person walks slowly and causes a Indirect Shadow.



How this looks in Motion:



Did you see that? That lighting is completely based on the original light coming from outside, That is NOT Ambient Occlusion, Ambient Occlsion cannot cast a shadow that far.

Another example:


This here person that we control (Not in the final game, He is not the protagonist for this game)
Comes closer to the window and takes a look outside.
During this scene, His arm casts a shadow on his.........(Whatever he is wearing)



How this looks in Motion:



So yeah, That's all, Although there are many other places that i've spotted this kind of lighting being produced but the above examples are enough, Also we have really less in game footage, Untill now i really like the game, Would've been better if this was a Open World game so i could explore 1313 myself.

And yeah, Cows........TLOU may be doing this for the first time on console, But on PC? You saw this for yourself. Console Graphics will never be better than PC.

From Kotaku
The live PC demo was controlled by anXbox 360Logitech controller and Robilliard says that they're using a heavily modified Unreal 3 engine with lots of plug-ins and add-ons to make things pop the way they do.1313represents the first time that ILM, LucasFilm Animation, Skywalker Sound and LucasArts are all working full-time on a game project. The company knows they have to win back gamers' trustI'll have more on that later this weekafter the disappointing debacle of Star Wars: The Force Unleashed 2. For them, you could say that 1313 embodies a new hope.


EDIT: Does the OP fit the title?

LucasArts internal teams have always been able to do some pretty impressive things with tech, so it's not that surprising.

who the f*ck cares about shadows..............Nengo_Flow

LucasArts internal teams have always been able to do some pretty impressive things with tech, so it's not that surprising.

DarkLink77

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

LucasArts internal teams have always been able to do some pretty impressive things with tech, so it's not that surprising.

faizan_faizan

most won't even notice this in motion.Tessellation

who the f*ck cares about shadows..............Nengo_Flow

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

LucasArts internal teams have always been able to do some pretty impressive things with tech, so it's not that surprising.

DarkLink77

Forgive my ignorance, but what differentiates that from this kind of shadow?

Don't care about shadows, but this makes me wonder what some console devs could do on PC. Santa Monica, Naughty Dog, Guerilla, Turn 10, Nintendo's Galaxy devs, etc.

Forgive my ignorance, but what differentiates that from this kind of shadow?

Cherokee_Jack

This here chair is causing a Indirect Shadow.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

Forgive my ignorance, but what differentiates that from this kind of shadow?

faizan_faizan

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

Forgive my ignorance, but what differentiates that from this kind of shadow?

themajormayor

This. This is NOT Ambient Occlusion,
Pic on the right is doing everything in real time, Pic on the left is doing everything in real time without Indirect Shadows.
Now if there was no Lighting Baked in Crysis or If Crysis was doing EVERYTHING in real time then the result would be this.

Wow, is it really this serious?sora16perfect

Dat Shadow effect does look pretty nice. So this is how all next gen game shadows will like then.

Dat Shadow effect does look pretty nice. So this is how all next gen game shadows will like then.

HaloPimp978

I would be so happy if launch PS4 games look like 1313.

most won't even notice this in motion.Tessellation

[QUOTE="Tessellation"]most won't even notice this in motion.GhoX

Can't we all just forget about reality and just play and enjoy the games for fuvks sake.

Can't we all just forget about reality and just play and enjoy the games for fuvks sake.

Dark_man123

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

LucasArts internal teams have always been able to do some pretty impressive things with tech, so it's not that surprising.

faizan_faizan

But UE3 doesn't even support realtime GI or indirect shadows. :?

Don't care about shadows, but this makes me wonder what some console devs could do on PC. Santa Monica, Naughty Dog, Guerilla, Turn 10, Nintendo's Galaxy devs, etc.

cloudff7tm

Don't know about the rest but GG would be a FAIL, I think they did develop one game for PC and it was not something spectacular.

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

LucasArts internal teams have always been able to do some pretty impressive things with tech, so it's not that surprising.

zeeshanhaider

But UE3 doesn't even support realtime GI or indirect shadows. :?

Nice. Shadows are one of the most important aspects of great graphics. Just look around the room you are in and look at all them shadows...

Better shadows is always a good thing. End of story.

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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"] Yea, But this is on Unreal Engine 3.faizan_faizan

But UE3 doesn't even support realtime GI or indirect shadows. :?

I said realtime GI. Lightmass is prebaked/static solution. Only CE3 does realtime GI on consoles albeit a weaker one than from its PC counterpart.

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

LucasArts internal teams have always been able to do some pretty impressive things with tech, so it's not that surprising.

zeeshanhaider

But UE3 doesn't even support realtime GI or indirect shadows. :?

[QUOTE="zeeshanhaider"]

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"] Yea, But this is on Unreal Engine 3.ferret-gamer

But UE3 doesn't even support realtime GI or indirect shadows. :?

Yeah, that might explain that.

So instead of removing blood splatter when you are hit by a blaster, they add in some bullsh1t shadowing affect?

Dude, you're going to see whatever you want to see if you stare at those GIF's long enough.

It's probably just a shadow from one of the many lights they put in the scene to make the characters look good. I wouldn't be surprised if they put a few dozen lights in there.

[QUOTE="sora16perfect"]Wow, is it really this serious?faizan_faizan

I have often wondered where the snag in tools used to create CG films would make their way to our industry has been- Has this been primarily due to the high cost of the software until now?

Crysis 2 & Stalker COP did it im pretty sure

knowing PS3 limits & ND's little tricks, it's safe to say the indirect shadows will be limited, most likely just for the main characters

Many people on here claim they cant see a difference between 30FPS and 60FPS, they sure as hell arent going to care about shadows. clyde46

Many people dont even care about video games. Are you shocked?

What I dont get is why someone who doesnt care about shadows writes a post about how he doesnt care into a thread about shadows. That seems seriously retarded to me.

The game is the closest to CGI I've ever seen in real time. It walks all over TLOU visually and most other games for that matter.

Don't care about shadows, I'd rather care about if the game can deliver in gameplay and story.

Do you think light is more important or shadows?
I rilly dig the accurate shadows in teh pics btw.

Don't care about shadows, I'd rather care about if the game can deliver in gameplay and story.

Ballroompirate

Dont care about story, gameplay is what matters. This is a thread about shadows though in case you havent noticed :)

I fail to see how this visual effect is any different from regular dynamic lighting. Other than performance wise if it's using different methods of calculating the shadows.

Umm, multiple games already have multiple light sources casting shadow on a single object.

big. freakin. whoop

who the f*ck cares about shadows..............Nengo_Flow

Umm, multiple games already have multiple light sources casting shadow on a single object.

Wasdie