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@worknow222 said:
@vfighter said:

@worknow222: How did they, coming from someone with such a horrible opinion I dont expect much of an answer. Prequels, lol, oh god that's rich.

Still not answering my question. but sure theirs a lot good with the prequels, Sure jar jar was way too childish but Ewoks were the same. Anakin was a bad ass especially in three his scene loosing his mother was damn powerful and really showed who he was becoming. And in three Anakin loosing everything just wanting a life with the one he loves being manipulated by everyone Bloody hell. I wish they could do a one off and have it they he kills sidious and everything's back to normal.

Mace windu was also amazing, yoda fighting Sidious/Dooku, battledroids .

The arena battle in two then full scale war with the jedi and clones. The clone wars. The bigger view of jedi. the fall of the Jedi. How it was there fault. How there isn't much difference to them and the sith if viewed by a different perspective. Mustafar. Sidious winning with not a weapon but politics. Interesting themes. great alien life and planets. Sure they weren't the original trilogy but they were a lot better than episode 7 I mean that episode 4 remake.

I can Understand the too much CGI effects but re watching all three prequels yesterday and I noticed a lot more practical effects than I did at an earlier age. But I get the prequels hell I grew up with them sure, but I also grew up with the original trilogy first then the prequels and I get it Each film is a part of Anakins life 1 his childhood 2 his teens/Early Adult life 3 being his turn to a full adult no longer a child. and His Final transformation into Vader

I could Go on but I am sure you'll say something disagreeing with this all so no need to waste more time.

You don't need to say anymore. This sums it up almost perfectly.

I would also add Qui-Gon to that list as well. It doesn't matter whether people agree with the actor or not, the character was fantastic and then there's Obi-Wan, simply sublime. The final fight was full of pure emotion and passion also. Easily the best fight in the whole saga.

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@che5ter666 said:
@worknow222 said:
@vfighter said:

@worknow222: How did they, coming from someone with such a horrible opinion I dont expect much of an answer. Prequels, lol, oh god that's rich.

Still not answering my question. but sure theirs a lot good with the prequels, Sure jar jar was way too childish but Ewoks were the same. Anakin was a bad ass especially in three his scene loosing his mother was damn powerful and really showed who he was becoming. And in three Anakin loosing everything just wanting a life with the one he loves being manipulated by everyone Bloody hell. I wish they could do a one off and have it they he kills sidious and everything's back to normal.

Mace windu was also amazing, yoda fighting Sidious/Dooku, battledroids .

The arena battle in two then full scale war with the jedi and clones. The clone wars. The bigger view of jedi. the fall of the Jedi. How it was there fault. How there isn't much difference to them and the sith if viewed by a different perspective. Mustafar. Sidious winning with not a weapon but politics. Interesting themes. great alien life and planets. Sure they weren't the original trilogy but they were a lot better than episode 7 I mean that episode 4 remake.

I can Understand the too much CGI effects but re watching all three prequels yesterday and I noticed a lot more practical effects than I did at an earlier age. But I get the prequels hell I grew up with them sure, but I also grew up with the original trilogy first then the prequels and I get it Each film is a part of Anakins life 1 his childhood 2 his teens/Early Adult life 3 being his turn to a full adult no longer a child. and His Final transformation into Vader

I could Go on but I am sure you'll say something disagreeing with this all so no need to waste more time.

You don't need to say anymore. This sums it up almost perfectly.

I would also add Qui-Gon to that list as well. It doesn't matter whether people agree with the actor or not, the character was fantastic and then there's Obi-Wan, simply sublime. The final fight was full of pure emotion and passion also. Easily the best fight in the whole saga.

I knew I forgot something qui-Gon was amazing really wish he had that planned cameo in episode 3. And yeah Obi and Anakins fight was the best damn light saber fight in the whole saga of star wars. just so good.

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@davillain- said:
@kuu2 said:

That Sony bundle deal is going to be a real kick in the nuts when the Scorpio version runs better on every front.

Man this year is going to be awesome.

You must be joking. The PC version will leave that Scorpio in the dust. Battlefront already looks awesome on PC and Battlefront 2 will be amazing on PC then Scorpio.

Left SW for a long time. Nice to see hermits still think console gamers give a crap about the PC...

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@StormyJoe said:

Left SW for a long time. Nice to see hermits still think console gamers give a crap about the PC...

Welcome back StormyJoe!

And no, we PC gamers don't care about console gamers, we just don't like being lied to about Scorpio promises. But me however, I do hope Scorpio lives everyone's expectations.

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Left SW for a long time. Nice to see hermits still think console gamers give a crap about the PC...

While you were gone: Steam userbase skyrocketed, gaming profits on PC skyrocketed.

I have little evidence to back this up but from my own personal experience: lots of people who used to game exclusively on consoles made the jump to PC this gen.

I think it was Sony who admitted that they made the PS4 Pro as a response to gamers moving over to PC.

Welcome back Stormy !

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So this game is going to have Female protagonist? i just heard from trailer and some articles.

the big companies are only cartering towards feminist.

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#58  Edited By cainetao11
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@che5ter666 said:
@worknow222 said:
@vfighter said:

@worknow222: How did they, coming from someone with such a horrible opinion I dont expect much of an answer. Prequels, lol, oh god that's rich.

Still not answering my question. but sure theirs a lot good with the prequels, Sure jar jar was way too childish but Ewoks were the same. Anakin was a bad ass especially in three his scene loosing his mother was damn powerful and really showed who he was becoming. And in three Anakin loosing everything just wanting a life with the one he loves being manipulated by everyone Bloody hell. I wish they could do a one off and have it they he kills sidious and everything's back to normal.

Mace windu was also amazing, yoda fighting Sidious/Dooku, battledroids .

The arena battle in two then full scale war with the jedi and clones. The clone wars. The bigger view of jedi. the fall of the Jedi. How it was there fault. How there isn't much difference to them and the sith if viewed by a different perspective. Mustafar. Sidious winning with not a weapon but politics. Interesting themes. great alien life and planets. Sure they weren't the original trilogy but they were a lot better than episode 7 I mean that episode 4 remake.

I can Understand the too much CGI effects but re watching all three prequels yesterday and I noticed a lot more practical effects than I did at an earlier age. But I get the prequels hell I grew up with them sure, but I also grew up with the original trilogy first then the prequels and I get it Each film is a part of Anakins life 1 his childhood 2 his teens/Early Adult life 3 being his turn to a full adult no longer a child. and His Final transformation into Vader

I could Go on but I am sure you'll say something disagreeing with this all so no need to waste more time.

You don't need to say anymore. This sums it up almost perfectly.

I would also add Qui-Gon to that list as well. It doesn't matter whether people agree with the actor or not, the character was fantastic and then there's Obi-Wan, simply sublime. The final fight was full of pure emotion and passion also. Easily the best fight in the whole saga.

The best thing about the prequels was the lightsaber fight choreography. The kid playing Anakin in Phantom couldn't act and Lucas stayed consistent with Hayden Christiansen because he sucks as an actor too. Absolutely terrible. Ever wonder why his career didn't blow up? Because he blows. Qui Gon was cool as was Darth Maul. But they kill both of these characters in the first and replace Maul with an ancient Christopher Lee? The count Dooku was so not needed. Darth Maul could've been the Sith Apprentice and had a great battle with Anakin in the third.

The writing is hokey and terrible to the point even an Oscar winning thespian like Natalie Portman is weak saying the dialogue. I am actually hopeful that after Lucas passes away Disney will remake the Anakin trilogy because they are weak sauce as they are now.

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@che5ter666 said:

I would also add Qui-Gon to that list as well. It doesn't matter whether people agree with the actor or not, the character was fantastic

How was he fantastic? He was just "generic old wise man", except instead of actually being wise he just does a bunch of stupid and/or contradictory bullshit. Gambling on a child podracing? Using the force to cheat the dice? Rescuing Anakin but leaving his mother as a slave? Claiming he can't intervene to help the Queen, but then just... does?

Liam Neeson is awesome but Qui Gon is terrible. At least young Obi Wan isn't crazy...

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Single player + more content = the game the first one should have been. I'll probably get this one.

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@davillain-: and the game Will be dead on pc like that last one.

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Skipped the first one but a proper SP campaign may get me to bite on this one.

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@kuu2 said:

That Sony bundle deal is going to be a real kick in the nuts when the Scorpio version runs better on every front.

Man this year is going to be awesome.

You don't care about performance else you would have buy your games on PS4..lol

@hrt_rulz01 said:

Meh... if the campaigns' good, I'll check it out. IN 4k ON SCORPIO BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You don't care about graphics..lol

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Not really a big Star Wars fan but I may look into this when it goes on sale, when time permits

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Yay, a shoehorned in campaign on top of a bare bones multiplayer mode that lacks any content and depth. can't wait

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@R4gn4r0k said:
@StormyJoe said:

Left SW for a long time. Nice to see hermits still think console gamers give a crap about the PC...

While you were gone: Steam userbase skyrocketed, gaming profits on PC skyrocketed.

I have little evidence to back this up but from my own personal experience: lots of people who used to game exclusively on consoles made the jump to PC this gen.

I think it was Sony who admitted that they made the PS4 Pro as a response to gamers moving over to PC.

Welcome back Stormy !

The fact is, if GS went back to having "Console Wars", no one would post in "System Wars".

And thank you :-)

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Can't wait to play it on my Scorpio in ultimate 4k Resolution!

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@StormyJoe said:

The fact is, if GS went back to having "Console Wars", no one would post in "System Wars".

And thank you :-)

Nintendo vs Sega wars ^^

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If the sp campaign is decent, I will probably pick it up!!

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@cainetao11 said:
@che5ter666 said:
@worknow222 said:
@vfighter said:

@worknow222: How did they, coming from someone with such a horrible opinion I dont expect much of an answer. Prequels, lol, oh god that's rich.

Still not answering my question. but sure theirs a lot good with the prequels, Sure jar jar was way too childish but Ewoks were the same. Anakin was a bad ass especially in three his scene loosing his mother was damn powerful and really showed who he was becoming. And in three Anakin loosing everything just wanting a life with the one he loves being manipulated by everyone Bloody hell. I wish they could do a one off and have it they he kills sidious and everything's back to normal.

Mace windu was also amazing, yoda fighting Sidious/Dooku, battledroids .

The arena battle in two then full scale war with the jedi and clones. The clone wars. The bigger view of jedi. the fall of the Jedi. How it was there fault. How there isn't much difference to them and the sith if viewed by a different perspective. Mustafar. Sidious winning with not a weapon but politics. Interesting themes. great alien life and planets. Sure they weren't the original trilogy but they were a lot better than episode 7 I mean that episode 4 remake.

I can Understand the too much CGI effects but re watching all three prequels yesterday and I noticed a lot more practical effects than I did at an earlier age. But I get the prequels hell I grew up with them sure, but I also grew up with the original trilogy first then the prequels and I get it Each film is a part of Anakins life 1 his childhood 2 his teens/Early Adult life 3 being his turn to a full adult no longer a child. and His Final transformation into Vader

I could Go on but I am sure you'll say something disagreeing with this all so no need to waste more time.

You don't need to say anymore. This sums it up almost perfectly.

I would also add Qui-Gon to that list as well. It doesn't matter whether people agree with the actor or not, the character was fantastic and then there's Obi-Wan, simply sublime. The final fight was full of pure emotion and passion also. Easily the best fight in the whole saga.

The best thing about the prequels was the lightsaber fight choreography. The kid playing Anakin in Phantom couldn't act and Lucas stayed consistent with Hayden Christiansen because he sucks as an actor too. Absolutely terrible. Ever wonder why his career didn't blow up? Because he blows. Qui Gon was cool as was Darth Maul. But they kill both of these characters in the first and replace Maul with an ancient Christopher Lee? The count Dooku was so not needed. Darth Maul could've been the Sith Apprentice and had a great battle with Anakin in the third.

The writing is hokey and terrible to the point even an Oscar winning thespian like Natalie Portman is weak saying the dialogue. I am actually hopeful that after Lucas passes away Disney will remake the Anakin trilogy because they are weak sauce as they are now.

Hayden is a great visual actor not vocal. original trilogy didnt have the best writing either. or acting for that matter. and while yes prequels have some iffy acting it's still doesn't outweigh the good. and no the prequels arent weak sauce they gave us the biggest step up in star wars lore ever. from characters to designs.

Dooku was great and harkened back to what inspired lucas the hammer horror films. Also if they had maul back he would of died in 3 meaning we never would of gotten his far better story in clone wars/rebels/comics

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@worknow222 said:
@cainetao11 said:
@che5ter666 said:
@worknow222 said:
@vfighter said:

@worknow222: How did they, coming from someone with such a horrible opinion I dont expect much of an answer. Prequels, lol, oh god that's rich.

Still not answering my question. but sure theirs a lot good with the prequels, Sure jar jar was way too childish but Ewoks were the same. Anakin was a bad ass especially in three his scene loosing his mother was damn powerful and really showed who he was becoming. And in three Anakin loosing everything just wanting a life with the one he loves being manipulated by everyone Bloody hell. I wish they could do a one off and have it they he kills sidious and everything's back to normal.

Mace windu was also amazing, yoda fighting Sidious/Dooku, battledroids .

The arena battle in two then full scale war with the jedi and clones. The clone wars. The bigger view of jedi. the fall of the Jedi. How it was there fault. How there isn't much difference to them and the sith if viewed by a different perspective. Mustafar. Sidious winning with not a weapon but politics. Interesting themes. great alien life and planets. Sure they weren't the original trilogy but they were a lot better than episode 7 I mean that episode 4 remake.

I can Understand the too much CGI effects but re watching all three prequels yesterday and I noticed a lot more practical effects than I did at an earlier age. But I get the prequels hell I grew up with them sure, but I also grew up with the original trilogy first then the prequels and I get it Each film is a part of Anakins life 1 his childhood 2 his teens/Early Adult life 3 being his turn to a full adult no longer a child. and His Final transformation into Vader

I could Go on but I am sure you'll say something disagreeing with this all so no need to waste more time.

You don't need to say anymore. This sums it up almost perfectly.

I would also add Qui-Gon to that list as well. It doesn't matter whether people agree with the actor or not, the character was fantastic and then there's Obi-Wan, simply sublime. The final fight was full of pure emotion and passion also. Easily the best fight in the whole saga.

The best thing about the prequels was the lightsaber fight choreography. The kid playing Anakin in Phantom couldn't act and Lucas stayed consistent with Hayden Christiansen because he sucks as an actor too. Absolutely terrible. Ever wonder why his career didn't blow up? Because he blows. Qui Gon was cool as was Darth Maul. But they kill both of these characters in the first and replace Maul with an ancient Christopher Lee? The count Dooku was so not needed. Darth Maul could've been the Sith Apprentice and had a great battle with Anakin in the third.

The writing is hokey and terrible to the point even an Oscar winning thespian like Natalie Portman is weak saying the dialogue. I am actually hopeful that after Lucas passes away Disney will remake the Anakin trilogy because they are weak sauce as they are now.

Hayden is a great visual actor not vocal. original trilogy didnt have the best writing either. or acting for that matter. and while yes prequels have some iffy acting it's still doesn't outweigh the good. and no the prequels arent weak sauce they gave us the biggest step up in star wars lore ever. from characters to designs.

Dooku was great and harkened back to what inspired lucas the hammer horror films. Also if they had maul back he would of died in 3 meaning we never would of gotten his far better story in clone wars/rebels/comics

WTF? I studied 3 years at the Lynette Sheldon Actor's studio here in NYC, won the 2004 John Garfield award for Best Actor at the Method Fest in LA. There is no such thing as separating visual from vocal on screen. The guy sucks. There is no inner life to his characterization and he's trying to play emotions.

Why would Maul dying in 3 have to negate any of that? That's absurd.

The Hidden Fortress is what inspired Star Wars for Lucas. Dooku wasn't needed when they had a very cool and liked villain in Maul.

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@cainetao11 said:
@worknow222 said:
@cainetao11 said:
@che5ter666 said:

You don't need to say anymore. This sums it up almost perfectly.

I would also add Qui-Gon to that list as well. It doesn't matter whether people agree with the actor or not, the character was fantastic and then there's Obi-Wan, simply sublime. The final fight was full of pure emotion and passion also. Easily the best fight in the whole saga.

The best thing about the prequels was the lightsaber fight choreography. The kid playing Anakin in Phantom couldn't act and Lucas stayed consistent with Hayden Christiansen because he sucks as an actor too. Absolutely terrible. Ever wonder why his career didn't blow up? Because he blows. Qui Gon was cool as was Darth Maul. But they kill both of these characters in the first and replace Maul with an ancient Christopher Lee? The count Dooku was so not needed. Darth Maul could've been the Sith Apprentice and had a great battle with Anakin in the third.

The writing is hokey and terrible to the point even an Oscar winning thespian like Natalie Portman is weak saying the dialogue. I am actually hopeful that after Lucas passes away Disney will remake the Anakin trilogy because they are weak sauce as they are now.

Hayden is a great visual actor not vocal. original trilogy didnt have the best writing either. or acting for that matter. and while yes prequels have some iffy acting it's still doesn't outweigh the good. and no the prequels arent weak sauce they gave us the biggest step up in star wars lore ever. from characters to designs.

Dooku was great and harkened back to what inspired lucas the hammer horror films. Also if they had maul back he would of died in 3 meaning we never would of gotten his far better story in clone wars/rebels/comics

WTF? I studied 3 years at the Lynette Sheldon Actor's studio here in NYC, won the 2004 John Garfield award for Best Actor at the Method Fest in LA. There is no such thing as separating visual from vocal on screen. The guy sucks. There is no inner life to his characterization and he's trying to play emotions.

Why would Maul dying in 3 have to negate any of that? That's absurd.

The Hidden Fortress is what inspired Star Wars for Lucas. Dooku wasn't needed when they had a very cool and liked villain in Maul.

There actually is. Hayden can bring emotions out within his facial features there's pain, sorrow that he brings out. it's the less is more approach why talk about your emotions but enhance them with your features/Body language. like when filming a close up that's when you want all the emotion to be.

Hayden was able to bring out more emotion with his actions more so than his vocal acting. since you should know being an actor that theirs a multitude of ways to act. some balance both emotion in the face and voice, some with there actions and body.

Lucas was Inspired by a multitude of media including the horror hammer films. But this is gonna be debate that wont end. Always is with Prequels and original trilogy talking.

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@worknow222 said:
@cainetao11 said:
@worknow222 said:
@cainetao11 said:
@che5ter666 said:

You don't need to say anymore. This sums it up almost perfectly.

I would also add Qui-Gon to that list as well. It doesn't matter whether people agree with the actor or not, the character was fantastic and then there's Obi-Wan, simply sublime. The final fight was full of pure emotion and passion also. Easily the best fight in the whole saga.

The best thing about the prequels was the lightsaber fight choreography. The kid playing Anakin in Phantom couldn't act and Lucas stayed consistent with Hayden Christiansen because he sucks as an actor too. Absolutely terrible. Ever wonder why his career didn't blow up? Because he blows. Qui Gon was cool as was Darth Maul. But they kill both of these characters in the first and replace Maul with an ancient Christopher Lee? The count Dooku was so not needed. Darth Maul could've been the Sith Apprentice and had a great battle with Anakin in the third.

The writing is hokey and terrible to the point even an Oscar winning thespian like Natalie Portman is weak saying the dialogue. I am actually hopeful that after Lucas passes away Disney will remake the Anakin trilogy because they are weak sauce as they are now.

Hayden is a great visual actor not vocal. original trilogy didnt have the best writing either. or acting for that matter. and while yes prequels have some iffy acting it's still doesn't outweigh the good. and no the prequels arent weak sauce they gave us the biggest step up in star wars lore ever. from characters to designs.

Dooku was great and harkened back to what inspired lucas the hammer horror films. Also if they had maul back he would of died in 3 meaning we never would of gotten his far better story in clone wars/rebels/comics

WTF? I studied 3 years at the Lynette Sheldon Actor's studio here in NYC, won the 2004 John Garfield award for Best Actor at the Method Fest in LA. There is no such thing as separating visual from vocal on screen. The guy sucks. There is no inner life to his characterization and he's trying to play emotions.

Why would Maul dying in 3 have to negate any of that? That's absurd.

The Hidden Fortress is what inspired Star Wars for Lucas. Dooku wasn't needed when they had a very cool and liked villain in Maul.

There actually is. Hayden can bring emotions out within his facial features there's pain, sorrow that he brings out. it's the less is more approach why talk about your emotions but enhance them with your features/Body language. like when filming a close up that's when you want all the emotion to be.

Hayden was able to bring out more emotion with his actions more so than his vocal acting. since you should know being an actor that theirs a multitude of ways to act. some balance both emotion in the face and voice, some with there actions and body.

Lucas was Inspired by a multitude of media including the horror hammer films. But this is gonna be debate that wont end. Always is with Prequels and original trilogy talking.

No. That is called "playing the emotion". That is not the art of acting. In the art of acting as Stanislavski taught all the members of the Group Theater and they then brought it to the US with students like Brando, Duvall, DeNiro, Hoffman, Pacino, Streep, an actor does the personalization homework necessary to make the circumstances of the scene personally important to himself. Then the actor identifies what exactly he is trying to get from another in the scene. Action is the key to acting. If this were a scene my chosen action would be "to educate". The actor then pursues the action to their fullest all while having made the given circumstances of the script personal for them. Emotions will come up of their own natural way as a result of proper homework and training in this craft. To make one's face emotional is playing an emotion not actually feeling an emotion. That's why he sucks. Anybody trained can tell when someone has an empty character life and is playing the emotion rather than pursuing the action with a real character life and therefore emotion will be natural.

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Hayden is a great visual actor not vocal. original trilogy didnt have the best writing either. or acting for that matter. and while yes prequels have some iffy acting it's still doesn't outweigh the good. and no the prequels arent weak sauce they gave us the biggest step up in star wars lore ever. from characters to designs.

Dooku was great and harkened back to what inspired lucas the hammer horror films. Also if they had maul back he would of died in 3 meaning we never would of gotten his far better story in clone wars/rebels/comics

WTF? I studied 3 years at the Lynette Sheldon Actor's studio here in NYC, won the 2004 John Garfield award for Best Actor at the Method Fest in LA. There is no such thing as separating visual from vocal on screen. The guy sucks. There is no inner life to his characterization and he's trying to play emotions.

Why would Maul dying in 3 have to negate any of that? That's absurd.

The Hidden Fortress is what inspired Star Wars for Lucas. Dooku wasn't needed when they had a very cool and liked villain in Maul.

There actually is. Hayden can bring emotions out within his facial features there's pain, sorrow that he brings out. it's the less is more approach why talk about your emotions but enhance them with your features/Body language. like when filming a close up that's when you want all the emotion to be.

Hayden was able to bring out more emotion with his actions more so than his vocal acting. since you should know being an actor that theirs a multitude of ways to act. some balance both emotion in the face and voice, some with there actions and body.

Lucas was Inspired by a multitude of media including the horror hammer films. But this is gonna be debate that wont end. Always is with Prequels and original trilogy talking.

No. That is called "playing the emotion". That is not the art of acting. In the art of acting as Stanislavski taught all the members of the Group Theater and they then brought it to the US with students like Brando, Duvall, DeNiro, Hoffman, Pacino, Streep, an actor does the personalization homework necessary to make the circumstances of the scene personally important to himself. Then the actor identifies what exactly he is trying to get from another in the scene. Action is the key to acting. If this were a scene my chosen action would be "to educate". The actor then pursues the action to their fullest all while having made the given circumstances of the script personal for them. Emotions will come up of their own natural way as a result of proper homework and training in this craft. To make one's face emotional is playing an emotion not actually feeling an emotion. That's why he sucks. Anybody trained can tell when someone has an empty character life and is playing the emotion rather than pursuing the action with a real character life and therefore emotion will be natural.

Thing is a lot of that changes when you're filming around the clock. But I also could bring up that anakin in two at least and a bit in 3 was a teen, who was in love, and somewhat Robotic because he had to be as a padawan.

Any way I feel like Deconstructing his Acting is void at least since in three he really stepped up his game, but hey he's the actor were fighting about not you. someone who thinks he knows all about acting when there a multiple ways to convey it and do it but hey how many star wars films you been in?

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@worknow222: Thing is a lot of that changes when you're filming around the clock. But I also could bring up that anakin in two at least and a bit in 3 was a teen, who was in love, and somewhat Robotic because he had to be as a padawan.

Any way I feel like Deconstructing his Acting is void at least since in three he really stepped up his game, but hey he's the actor were fighting about not you. someone who thinks he knows all about acting when there a multiple ways to convey it and do it but hey how many star wars films you been in?

I filmed for 13 weeks fall of 2001, being the lead in the film I was there all day every day. None of which gives a craftsman an excuse to not be ready with their prepared work. He got paid, its his job to be ready and truthful under imaginary circumstances. He wasn't, and his lack of notable work coming off of something as big as Star Wars speaks to it. Doesn't mean he cant work on his craft and grow and have a resurgence, just look at John Travolta. Although he was a stronger actor from the get go.

I don't need to deconstruct his acting since I never saw him construct any acting of note. You can have your own opinion. I never say a person cannot. I'm sticking with mine. I never said I know all about acting. I shared what a quick run down of what the craft of acting is. You don't like it? Not my problem pal. The proof is on film, the man isn't a good actor he was a pretty face.

I haven't been in any star wars films. How many acting awards has he won nominated against Ian McKellen, Giovani Ribisi and Kevin Pollack? I won one. Furthermore there are hundreds of thousands of Actors that have never been in a Star Wars film but work regularly is stage, TV, film. Where has Hayden been?

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@worknow222: Thing is a lot of that changes when you're filming around the clock. But I also could bring up that anakin in two at least and a bit in 3 was a teen, who was in love, and somewhat Robotic because he had to be as a padawan.

Any way I feel like Deconstructing his Acting is void at least since in three he really stepped up his game, but hey he's the actor were fighting about not you. someone who thinks he knows all about acting when there a multiple ways to convey it and do it but hey how many star wars films you been in?

I filmed for 13 weeks fall of 2001, being the lead in the film I was there all day every day. None of which gives a craftsman an excuse to not be ready with their prepared work. He got paid, its his job to be ready and truthful under imaginary circumstances. He wasn't, and his lack of notable work coming off of something as big as Star Wars speaks to it. Doesn't mean he cant work on his craft and grow and have a resurgence, just look at John Travolta. Although he was a stronger actor from the get go.

I don't need to deconstruct his acting since I never saw him construct any acting of note. You can have your own opinion. I never say a person cannot. I'm sticking with mine. I never said I know all about acting. I shared what a quick run down of what the craft of acting is. You don't like it? Not my problem pal. The proof is on film, the man isn't a good actor he was a pretty face.

I haven't been in any star wars films. How many acting awards has he won nominated against Ian McKellen, Giovani Ribisi and Kevin Pollack? I won one. Furthermore there are hundreds of thousands of Actors that have never been in a Star Wars film but work regularly is stage, TV, film. Where has Hayden been?

Fair enough. Now back on track battlefront 2 needs offline modes and good customization