Star Wars The Old republic GS review

I was right, it would get AA

Dreman = pwned :3

Slashless

In before Mass Effect 3 gets a 8.:P

Still a great score for this game through.

[QUOTE="Johnny_Rock"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Sesame Street gets an 8 on GS
SWTOR gets an 8 on GS.

Left side = Right side
8=8

I need to link common SW knowledge?

Ncsoftlover

So they're the same genre? An 8 for a childrens game equals an 8 for an MMO in your mind? Wow..... (don't look her in the eyes...)

Even if they are both MMO you wouldn't compare the scores directly, Age of Conan got 8.5 here, but the general view would suggest SWTOR being a much better MMO.

Great score. I was too scared to buy it since its an MMO and i have a phobia of getting addicted to them.

xOMGITSJASONx

I agree with this. WoW caught me for like a year. RPG + "Keeping up with the Jones" mentality is a dangerous thing.

Damn, where's the kissy-face emoticons when you need them! :x

Bigboi500

No one got the reference :(

Great score....horribly tempted by it but I don't think I can run it haha.Ravensmash

Check this out.

http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/intro.aspx

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Slashless"]

I like the cut of your jib.

Kevin-V

I like that I can troll the editors of this website with little effort :P

I don't expect the editors to be up to date with the latest SW trolls and stealth trolls :P

I should save that quote though, the amount of times I have tried to make that point to no avail is amazing.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Damn, where's the kissy-face emoticons when you need them! :x

Slashless

No one got the reference :(

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Great score....horribly tempted by it but I don't think I can run it haha.Maroxad

Check this out.

http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/intro.aspx

[QUOTE="Slashless"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Damn, where's the kissy-face emoticons when you need them! :x

Bigboi500

No one got the reference :(

Does the review staff have a competition on the number of people they piss off with their reviews (more specifically the score)?

Because it must be atleast somewhat entertaining to watch people get mad at your reviews.

Does the review staff have a competition on the number of people they piss off with their reviews (more specifically the score)?

Because it must be atleast somewhat entertaining to watch people get mad at your reviews.

Vesica_Prime

No way, U3 would have gotten an 8.5 if that were true :P

[QUOTE="Ncsoftlover"]

[QUOTE="Johnny_Rock"]

So they're the same genre? An 8 for a childrens game equals an 8 for an MMO in your mind? Wow..... (don't look her in the eyes...)

Kevin-V

Even if they are both MMO you wouldn't compare the scores directly, Age of Conan got 8.5 here, but the general view would suggest SWTOR being a much better MMO.

Age of Conan certainly felt quite fresh compared to most Themepark MMOs. I keep intending to visit it again, to see how it evolved, but I never made the final step.

How is the game nowdays?

[QUOTE="Ncsoftlover"]

[QUOTE="Johnny_Rock"]

So they're the same genre? An 8 for a childrens game equals an 8 for an MMO in your mind? Wow..... (don't look her in the eyes...)

Kevin-V

Even if they are both MMO you wouldn't compare the scores directly, Age of Conan got 8.5 here, but the general view would suggest SWTOR being a much better MMO.

yeah, from what I've heard AOC's problem was the lack of end game content at the time of release, but some reviewers did not even get to end levels, so they didn't actually point that out. Great for them if it did evolve into a better game over time.

Too bad if a MMO evolve into a better product, reviewers wouldn't normally bother to go back to re review it, so a MMO review kind of gets outdated after a year or so.

Also, comparing a great game for kids with a great online RPG is like comparing, oh I dunno. An awesome Pixar movie with an awesome Tarantino movie. Oh, go create your own dumb analogy since I am so bad at them. You get the gist. Great game got score that says "great." OMG CRAZY. But feel free to generate controversy. It entertains me :)

Kevin-V

Definitely diggin the editors activity in SW.

Read the review. Seems about what I was expecting, actually a little higher(score wise). Trying to convince my current friends who play WoW to convert to TOR. Looks fun. Keep fighting Kevin.

[QUOTE="Kevin-V"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I like that I can troll the editors of this website with little effort :P

ActicEdge

I don't expect the editors to be up to date with the latest SW trolls and stealth trolls :P

I should save that quote though, the amount of times I have tried to make that point to no avail is amazing.

[QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

Great score. I was too scared to buy it since its an MMO and i have a phobia of getting addicted to them.

DireOwl

I agree with this. WoW caught me for like a year. RPG + "Keeping up with the Jones" mentality is a dangerous thing.

Does the review staff have a competition on the number of people they piss off with their reviews (more specifically the score)?

Because it must be atleast somewhat entertaining to watch people get mad at your reviews.

Vesica_Prime

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Kevin-V"] Granted, I am extremely easy to troll. Bigboi500

I don't expect the editors to be up to date with the latest SW trolls and stealth trolls :P

I should save that quote though, the amount of times I have tried to make that point to no avail is amazing.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I don't expect the editors to be up to date with the latest SW trolls and stealth trolls :P

I should save that quote though, the amount of times I have tried to make that point to no avail is amazing.

Slashless

[QUOTE="DireOwl"]

[QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

Great score. I was too scared to buy it since its an MMO and i have a phobia of getting addicted to them.

dreman999

I agree with this. WoW caught me for like a year. RPG + "Keeping up with the Jones" mentality is a dangerous thing.

I can't control it. It's from photobucket. :(

so basically, WoW wins again?

I wonder now where is this guy , CarlitosWay something , to debate with me again about SW:TOR , how awesome it is and how better than anything else is. Damn , i even predicted the score. 8!! Anyways. I think its well deserved. Not thatgame is bad , its just offers one of the same. The true next-gen mmo that will shake MMORPG community will be GW2. And only that . IF not then the only game i see capable of doin this is TITAN.AzatiS

Blizzard is not that revolutionary, so Titan will shake the community by winning popularity contest, which it probably will, Blizzard has the largest fanbase worldwide. Or maybe they'll surprise this time and have a groundbreaking product, who knows.

Can it even be called an MMO? It's so theme-parky, that kinda misses the whole 'Massively Multiplayer' part, or so I understand with it's focus on instanced PvE and story and the emptiness on the open areas.

But most modern MMOs tend to do that anyway, and any game that tries to be a little different people either hate it or call it a grind.

But I'm sure, casuals will get bored eventually and we will return to the time of non-instanced PvE and open world PvP.

...Who's mad? It's a good score.dreman999

Also, reading your review makes me kind of think you are just another person missing Star Wars Galaxies and therefore criticizing this game for being something Bioware never claimed it was every going to be.

There are certainly things to criticize the game about, some of which you touch on in your last paragraph, like the fact that the gameplay isn't particularly original(to say the least), it is perhaps to single-player focused(I disagree personally, but I can see where that argument comes from), they need to work on keeping enemy mobs consistent throughout, and a variety of bugs(none gamebreaking, but like any MMO there are things to be ironed out), but the three you choose to highlight I would honestly call quibbles and question why those three are enough to drop the score down to an 8.0, which again, I would consider perfectly fair if you had highlighted some of the other things I just mentioned.

So, basically, your problems with the game are:

1)Too much instancing, which I suppose is fair in terms of making the game feel a bit empty at times, but a)instancing is virtually necessary to ensure good immersion into their story, b)helps make sure you don't have to wait around for the thing you need to kill to respawn, and c)is necessary to run a game of this size and visual/auditory complexity on a lot of computers.

2)Too many corridor levels, which is something that happens in all games of any great size, is a common part of the Star Wars Universe in general(go back and watch the movies, long corridors are a popular design choice and a lot of scenes and action seem to take place in them, and ignores the VAST worlds they have created.

3)Space Combat, which they never promised was ever going to be anything save a mini-game at launch, is not diverse enough.

And those three things, which having played the game since Early Access would call quibbles compared to some of the bugs and gameplay problems(none major really) which they need to iron out and that was enough to drop your score of the game down to an 8.0? Really?

And another game gets McShea-ed. :Pnervmeister

Called it. Looks alright, but Guild Wars 2 will pwn it

OOHHH **** Its about to hit the fan! ....well not really.

[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="DireOwl"]

I agree with this. WoW caught me for like a year. RPG + "Keeping up with the Jones" mentality is a dangerous thing.

DireOwl

I can't control it. It's from photobucket. :(

But it was so creepy....Now it's less creepy.:cry:

[QUOTE="dreman999"]...Who's mad? It's a good score.Vesica_Prime

Also, reading your review makes me kind of think you are just another person missing Star Wars Galaxies and therefore criticizing this game for being something Bioware never claimed it was every going to be.

There are certainly things to criticize the game about, some of which you touch on in your last paragraph, like the fact that the gameplay isn't particularly original(to say the least), it is perhaps to single-player focused(I disagree personally, but I can see where that argument comes from), they need to work on keeping enemy mobs consistent throughout, and a variety of bugs(none gamebreaking, but like any MMO there are things to be ironed out), but the three you choose to highlight I would honestly call quibbles and question why those three are enough to drop the score down to an 8.0, which again, I would consider perfectly fair if you had highlighted some of the other things I just mentioned.

So, basically, your problems with the game are:

1)Too much instancing, which I suppose is fair in terms of making the game feel a bit empty at times, but a)instancing is virtually necessary to ensure good immersion into their story, b)helps make sure you don't have to wait around for the thing you need to kill to respawn, and c)is necessary to run a game of this size and visual/auditory complexity on a lot of computers.

2)Too many corridor levels, which is something that happens in all games of any great size, is a common part of the Star Wars Universe in general(go back and watch the movies, long corridors are a popular design choice and a lot of scenes and action seem to take place in them, and ignores the VAST worlds they have created.

3)Space Combat, which they never promised was ever going to be anything save a mini-game at launch, is not diverse enough.

And those three things, which having played the game since Early Access would call quibbles compared to some of the bugs and gameplay problems(none major really) which they need to iron out and that was enough to drop your score of the game down to an 8.0? Really?

[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

[QUOTE="dreman999"]...Who's mad? It's a good score.dreman999

Also, reading your review makes me kind of think you are just another person missing Star Wars Galaxies and therefore criticizing this game for being something Bioware never claimed it was every going to be.

There are certainly things to criticize the game about, some of which you touch on in your last paragraph, like the fact that the gameplay isn't particularly original(to say the least), it is perhaps to single-player focused(I disagree personally, but I can see where that argument comes from), they need to work on keeping enemy mobs consistent throughout, and a variety of bugs(none gamebreaking, but like any MMO there are things to be ironed out), but the three you choose to highlight I would honestly call quibbles and question why those three are enough to drop the score down to an 8.0, which again, I would consider perfectly fair if you had highlighted some of the other things I just mentioned.

So, basically, your problems with the game are:

1)Too much instancing, which I suppose is fair in terms of making the game feel a bit empty at times, but a)instancing is virtually necessary to ensure good immersion into their story, b)helps make sure you don't have to wait around for the thing you need to kill to respawn, and c)is necessary to run a game of this size and visual/auditory complexity on a lot of computers.

2)Too many corridor levels, which is something that happens in all games of any great size, is a common part of the Star Wars Universe in general(go back and watch the movies, long corridors are a popular design choice and a lot of scenes and action seem to take place in them, and ignores the VAST worlds they have created.

3)Space Combat, which they never promised was ever going to be anything save a mini-game at launch, is not diverse enough.

And those three things, which having played the game since Early Access would call quibbles compared to some of the bugs and gameplay problems(none major really) which they need to iron out and that was enough to drop your score of the game down to an 8.0? Really?

...Ummm...I think your quoting the wrong guy.

dreman999

Because when I show you people are upset/mad about the review, I have to be quoting the wrong guy.

http://au.gamespot.com/star-wars-the-old-republic/reviews/star-wars-the-old-republic-review-6348266?page=2

MrOmega2

So, basically, your problems with the game are:

1)Too much instancing, which I suppose is fair in terms of making the game feel a bit empty at times, but a)instancing is virtually necessary to ensure good immersion into their story, b)helps make sure you don't have to wait around for the thing you need to kill to respawn, and c)is necessary to run a game of this size and visual/auditory complexity on a lot of computers.

2)Too many corridor levels, which is something that happens in all games of any great size, is a common part of the Star Wars Universe in general(go back and watch the movies, long corridors are a popular design choice and a lot of scenes and action seem to take place in them, and ignores the VAST worlds they have created.

3)Space Combat, which they never promised was ever going to be anything save a mini-game at launch, is not diverse enough.

And those three things, which having played the game since Early Access would call quibbles compared to some of the bugs and gameplay problems(none major really) which they need to iron out and that was enough to drop your score of the game down to an 8.0? Really?

Also, reading your review makes me kind of think you are just another person missing Star Wars Galaxies and therefore criticizing this game for being something Bioware never claimed it was every going to be.

There are certainly things to criticize the game about, some of which you touch on in your last paragraph, like the fact that the gameplay isn't particularly original(to say the least), it is perhaps to single-player focused(I disagree personally, but I can see where that argument comes from), they need to work on keeping enemy mobs consistent throughout, and a variety of bugs(none gamebreaking, but like any MMO there are things to be ironed out), but the three you choose to highlight I would honestly call quibbles and question why those three are enough to drop the score down to an 8.0, which again, I would consider perfectly fair if you had highlighted some of the other things I just mentioned.

Hell I wasn't even targetting Bioware or its fans in my initial post, seems like you have a persecution complex and interpret everything I post as anti-Bioware propaganda.

[QUOTE="dreman999"]

...Ummm...I think your quoting the wrong guy.

Vesica_Prime

Because when I show you people are upset/mad about the review, I have to be quoting the wrong guy.

http://au.gamespot.com/star-wars-the-old-republic/reviews/star-wars-the-old-republic-review-6348266?page=2

MrOmega2

So, basically, your problems with the game are:

1)Too much instancing, which I suppose is fair in terms of making the game feel a bit empty at times, but a)instancing is virtually necessary to ensure good immersion into their story, b)helps make sure you don't have to wait around for the thing you need to kill to respawn, and c)is necessary to run a game of this size and visual/auditory complexity on a lot of computers.

2)Too many corridor levels, which is something that happens in all games of any great size, is a common part of the Star Wars Universe in general(go back and watch the movies, long corridors are a popular design choice and a lot of scenes and action seem to take place in them, and ignores the VAST worlds they have created.

3)Space Combat, which they never promised was ever going to be anything save a mini-game at launch, is not diverse enough.

And those three things, which having played the game since Early Access would call quibbles compared to some of the bugs and gameplay problems(none major really) which they need to iron out and that was enough to drop your score of the game down to an 8.0? Really?

Also, reading your review makes me kind of think you are just another person missing Star Wars Galaxies and therefore criticizing this game for being something Bioware never claimed it was every going to be.

There are certainly things to criticize the game about, some of which you touch on in your last paragraph, like the fact that the gameplay isn't particularly original(to say the least), it is perhaps to single-player focused(I disagree personally, but I can see where that argument comes from), they need to work on keeping enemy mobs consistent throughout, and a variety of bugs(none gamebreaking, but like any MMO there are things to be ironed out), but the three you choose to highlight I would honestly call quibbles and question why those three are enough to drop the score down to an 8.0, which again, I would consider perfectly fair if you had highlighted some of the other things I just mentioned.

Hell I wasn't even targetting Bioware or its fans in that post, seems like you have a persecution complex and interpret everything I post as anti-Bioware propaganda.

Why are you quoting me and stating this issue with me?

Why are you quoting me and stating this issue with me?

dreman999

[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

Does the review staff have a competition on the number of people they piss off with their reviews (more specifically the score)?

Because it must be atleast somewhat entertaining to watch people get mad at your reviews.

dreman999

Thus I gave you an example of someone who was mad about the review to answer your question of 'who's mad?'

It got a great score and it was given a pretty good, honest review. In my eyes, it succeeded.

[QUOTE="dreman999"]

[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

Does the review staff have a competition on the number of people they piss off with their reviews (more specifically the score)?

Because it must be atleast somewhat entertaining to watch people get mad at your reviews.

Vesica_Prime

Thus I gave you an example of someone who was mad about the review to answer your question of 'who's mad?'

Oh....An "I'm mad" whould been much simplier.The way the comment were stated made sound you though I wrote the review.dreman999

Sigh... If you actually bothered reading, you would have seen that I was quoting someone else.

Putting words in my mouth ftw.

[QUOTE="polFdrawykS"]gotta love these 8.0 is bad game mentality .. system war nvr fail to deliver :lol:Johnny_Rock

You want logic? Go elsewhere! :)

This is the most expensive game ever produced with a budget over 130 million dollars. Getting an equivalent score to DAII is quite a disappointment.

This is the most expensive game ever produced with a budget over 130 million dollars. Getting an equivalent score to DAII is quite a disappointment.

runbleduck

now i shall go back to not caring about the game, good score though

[QUOTE="Johnny_Rock"]

[QUOTE="polFdrawykS"]gotta love these 8.0 is bad game mentality .. system war nvr fail to deliver :lol:polFdrawykS

You want logic? Go elsewhere! :)

System wars does not equal logic. You want my true feelings.... go to PC forums.

I'd love a Darth Vader burger right about now.