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#51 calvinsora
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I seem to remember that DA: Origins was brilliant even if it was released on consoles as well. So was the original Knights of the Old Republic, actually.

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#52 mattuk69
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I seem to remember that DA: Origins was brilliant even if it was released on consoles as well. So was the original Knights of the Old Republic, actually.

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yeah and what's your point?
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#53 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

I seem to remember that DA: Origins was brilliant even if it was released on consoles as well. So was the original Knights of the Old Republic, actually.

mattuk69
yeah and what's your point?

You insinuated that consoles are to blame for bad games, you're wrong.
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#54 calvinsora
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[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

I seem to remember that DA: Origins was brilliant even if it was released on consoles as well. So was the original Knights of the Old Republic, actually.

mattuk69

yeah and what's your point?

Pretty obvious since you insinuated that a game not being on consoles equated a good game. A very, very false statement. I could mention more games, but I chose to use two games from the same dev as Star Wars: The Old Republic.

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#56 Mograine
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Hermits will be hermits... I thought everyone knew this by now

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Is that why everyone including hermits is disagreeing with him, right?

Meh, system wars logic.

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#57 mattuk69
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[QUOTE="mattuk69"][QUOTE="calvinsora"]

I seem to remember that DA: Origins was brilliant even if it was released on consoles as well. So was the original Knights of the Old Republic, actually.

calvinsora

yeah and what's your point?

Pretty obvious since you insinuated that a game not being on consoles equated a good game. A very, very false statement. I could mention more games, but I chose to use two games from the same dev as Star Wars: The Old Republic.

"Stars wars one of many series ruined this gen from current consoles." Since when was DA: Origins a series with its first game? And when did Knights of the Old Republic release this Gen?
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#58 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

[QUOTE="mattuk69"] yeah and what's your point?mattuk69

Pretty obvious since you insinuated that a game not being on consoles equated a good game. A very, very false statement. I could mention more games, but I chose to use two games from the same dev as Star Wars: The Old Republic.

"Stars wars one of many series ruined this gen from current consoles." Since when was DA: Origins a series with its first game? And when did Knights of the Old Republic release this Gen?

How are consoles to blame for Star Wars games going downhill this gen and not last gen? You made a blanket statement about consoles that they're to blame for bad games. Be it a series or not, you are wrong.
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#59 WarTornRuston
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SSBB and Gears 3 not on PC = A great time! So that's how it feels to make a pointless thread.
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#60 mattuk69
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[QUOTE="mattuk69"][QUOTE="calvinsora"]

Pretty obvious since you insinuated that a game not being on consoles equated a good game. A very, very false statement. I could mention more games, but I chose to use two games from the same dev as Star Wars: The Old Republic.

tomarlyn

"Stars wars one of many series ruined this gen from current consoles." Since when was DA: Origins a series with its first game? And when did Knights of the Old Republic release this Gen?

How are consoles to blame for Star Wars games going downhill this gen and not last gen? You made a blanket statement about consoles that they're to blame for bad games. Be it a series or not, you are wrong.

Because gameplay was always the focus. Games worked great for all platforms. Now its always console focus and a crappy ports for PC. A generation of call of duty is the greatestt thing ever since slice bread. As soon as 360/PS3 hit it was all about graphics, coolness and gimmick trash. Nothing is ever simple anymore for the devs with consoles. Star wars was great on consoles and PC. Consoles have changed great games from the past got worse. PC is still that same platform from the past todays consoles are not.

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#61 lordreaven
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As I've said before, Lucas Arts does not like money, because if they did we would have:

Tie Fighter 2

Battlefront 3

Jedi Knight: Old Republic (I would love that, and it would make use of the Old Republic era outside of MMO's, and RPG's)

Jedi Knight: Jedi Acadamy 2

Star Wars: Republic at War

Republic Commando 2

Bounty Hunter 2

Rouge Squadrin 4

So....................Lucasarts does not like money.

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#62 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="mattuk69"] "Stars wars one of many series ruined this gen from current consoles." Since when was DA: Origins a series with its first game? And when did Knights of the Old Republic release this Gen?mattuk69

How are consoles to blame for Star Wars games going downhill this gen and not last gen? You made a blanket statement about consoles that they're to blame for bad games. Be it a series or not, you are wrong.

Because gameplay was always the focus. Games worked great for all platforms. Now its always console focus and a crappy ports for PC. A generation of call of duty is the greatestt thing ever since slice bread. As soon as 360/PS3 hit it was all about graphics, coolness and gimmick trash. Nothing is ever simple anymore for the devs with consoles. Star wars was great on consoles and PC. Consoles have changed great games from the past got worse. PC is still that same platform from the past todays consoles are not.

I still don't see what consoles specifically have to do with some designers deciding to focus on better tech for multiple platforms. I agree Star Wars games have got worse but you're pointing the stick in the wrong direction. Bioware is an amazing developer that can get the best out of any story based sci fi franchise, I'm sure they could make an amazing Star Wars exclusive for a console too. In fact I'd love them to work on a Star Trek game.
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#63 WilliamRLBaker
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*laughs* that your trying to make out that Consoles are the source of starwars games problems... and not George lucas...

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#64 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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The gameplay looks boring. I think we'll see far better combinations of action and RPGs this year.

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#66 ehussein1379
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The gameplay looks boring. I think we'll see far better combinations of action and RPGs this year.

IronBass

That video is more than 1.5 years old. Due to the size and scope of an MMO the animations/combat 'feel' are the last things they finish.

Especially in this game, where so much time is dedicated to creating the Star Wars world and adding content, figuring out ****s, pvp systems etc.

Watch E3 videos from this year, like this: youtube

anti-subscription / anti-pc gamers don't know what they are going to miss. Legendary game approaching, beyond AAAA, a new ranking system.

You won't see any game like this for years to come, and it will be PC only as well. Just like WoW in 2004 before it..

Finally a blending of ME2 and an MMO. Playing with 10k people on a server is an uncomparable experience. No cross server dungeons either, so this will get interesting.

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Trollbaitan Otherwise, no it won't be good because it's only on PC, hell it being MMO means there's a million more things that could go wrong. From what I've heard from a friend in the beta it's quite good, and nails the singleplayer side of things. I'm still highly sceptical.
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#68 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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That video is more than 1.5 years old. Due to the size and scope of an MMO the animations/combat 'feel' are the last things they finish.

Especially in this game, where so much time is dedicated to creating the Star Wars world and adding content, figuring out ****s, pvp systems etc.

Watch E3 videos from this year, like this: youtube

anti-subscription / anti-pc gamers don't know what they are going to miss. Legendary game approaching, beyond AAAA, a new ranking system.

ehussein1379

That didn't look much better, gameplay-wise.

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#69 ehussein1379
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Another newer video.

Showing an MMO is a bit like showing Skryim, hard to capture exactly what this is going to be.

But ... picture ME2, now add a massive open world ala Skyrim X 20, ok ... a dash of real life friends, what do you get?

Well, something kind of like that sith leaping at 1:10, pwn.

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[QUOTE="ehussein1379"]That video is more than 1.5 years old. Due to the size and scope of an MMO the animations/combat 'feel' are the last things they finish.

Especially in this game, where so much time is dedicated to creating the Star Wars world and adding content, figuring out ****s, pvp systems etc.

Watch E3 videos from this year, like this: youtube

anti-subscription / anti-pc gamers don't know what they are going to miss. Legendary game approaching, beyond AAAA, a new ranking system.

IronBass

That didn't look much better, gameplay-wise.

You like ME1?

Its going to be more interactive than that, by far.

Again, hard to show.

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#71 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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You like ME1?

Its going to be more interactive than that, by far.

Again, hard to show.

ehussein1379

ME1 is almost unplayable now. It was good when it came out, but it has aged horribly.

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[QUOTE="ehussein1379"]You like ME1?

Its going to be more interactive than that, by far.

Again, hard to show.

IronBass

ME1 is almost unplayable now. It was good when it came out, but it has aged horribly.

I just beat ME1 a few weeks ago and it blew me away, again.

However that was on PC, I hear the game is painful on console (mako and elevators right?)

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#73 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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I just beat ME1 a few weeks ago and it blew me away, again.

However that was on PC, I hear the game is painful on console (mako and elevators right?)

ehussein1379

The Makko is one of the few good things. I don't have an issue with the elevators. The combat is simply outdated.

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[QUOTE="ehussein1379"]I just beat ME1 a few weeks ago and it blew me away, again.

However that was on PC, I hear the game is painful on console (mako and elevators right?)

IronBass

The Makko is one of the few good things. I don't have an issue with the elevators. The combat is simply outdated.

Combat is only a facet of the game.

The original Star Wars movies are 'outdated' technically, but their newer counter-parts made with new technology are dramatically worse.

I'm not saying old Star Wars + new tech is a bad thing. But combat is merely a facet, just like the 'flash' of good CGI.

ME1 is still an amazing game, for its world/music/story/characters, and the combat isn't awful and unplayable ... just not as visceral as ME2.

TOR will be an amped up version of WoW combat, which feels great in my opinion. Precise like counter strike in a way, doing arenas and pvp.

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Combat is only a facet of the game.

The original Star Wars movies are 'outdated' technically, but their newer counter-parts made with new technology are dramatically worse.

I'm not saying old Star Wars + new tech is a bad thing. But combat is merely a facet, just like the 'flash' of good CGI.

ME1 is still an amazing game, for its world/music/story/characters, and the combat isn't awful and unplayable ... just not as visceral as ME2.

TOR will be an amped up version of WoW combat, which feels great in my opinion. Precise like counter strike in a way, doing arenas and pvp.

ehussein1379

The gameplay is the most important part of a game, and in an action RPG, the combat is the most important part of the gameplay. ME1's combat is horribly outdated now, and if that's the best comparison we can find to describe ToR, then that game won't do very well.

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[QUOTE="ehussein1379"]Combat is only a facet of the game.

The original Star Wars movies are 'outdated' technically, but their newer counter-parts made with new technology are dramatically worse.

I'm not saying old Star Wars + new tech is a bad thing. But combat is merely a facet, just like the 'flash' of good CGI.

ME1 is still an amazing game, for its world/music/story/characters, and the combat isn't awful and unplayable ... just not as visceral as ME2.

TOR will be an amped up version of WoW combat, which feels great in my opinion. Precise like counter strike in a way, doing arenas and pvp.

IronBass

The gameplay is the most important part of a game, and in an action RPG, the combat is the most important part of the gameplay. ME1's combat is horribly outdated now, and if that's the best comparison we can find to describe ToR, then that game won't do very well.

ME1 is my example, since you like Bioware and ME (according to your sig at least).

TOR will have much better combat than ME1. Like I said, WoW precision amped up. Add 10 other people to the mix battling their way into some moon base, and the combat takes on a whole new perspective.

Fluid, fast, furious.

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#77 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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ME1 is my example, since you like Bioware and ME (according to your sig at least).

TOR will have much better combat than ME1. Like I said, WoW precision amped up. Add 10 other people to the mix battling their way into some moon base, and the combat takes on a whole new perspective.

Fluid, fast, furious.

ehussein1379

That's not what I got from the videos (it looked very boring, and the WoW comparison doesn't help). It looked slow, bland and clunky. And very poorly animated.

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[QUOTE="ehussein1379"]

ME1 is my example, since you like Bioware and ME (according to your sig at least).

TOR will have much better combat than ME1. Like I said, WoW precision amped up. Add 10 other people to the mix battling their way into some moon base, and the combat takes on a whole new perspective.

Fluid, fast, furious.

IronBass

That's not what I got from the videos (it looked very boring, and the WoW comparison doesn't help). It looked slow, bland and clunky. And very poorly animated.

MMOs just aren't for you then.

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MMOs just aren't for you then.ehussein1379
Indeed, they aren't.
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#80 guildclaws
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So because the Old Republic (the new one) is a PC-exclusive it's automatically great??? i don't understand

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#81 ehussein1379
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So because the Old Republic (the new one) is a PC-exclusive it's automatically great??? i don't understand

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Well .. not automatically.

It's a bit like putting a flower out in the sun, it can grow, but only if tended. Weeds still can damage the plant.

Developing for console is a bit like trying to grow a flower with a flourescent light.