Starcraft 2; a game that would benefit from Blu-ray but hermits deny it....

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#1 rgame1
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So I was wondering the other day what RTS game I should get now that I have played CNC3 Tiberium Wars for ages. I was gonna get RA3 till I noticed how pathetically cheesy it is.

So just recently, I learned of Starcraft 2. Just what I have been looking for. Feels epic, great atmosphere etc. Then the bad news came. Three games will be released. And everyone accuses Blizzard (thats who makes them right) of trying cash in and abuse consumers.

But my take. No way. They wanted an epic game. Thirty Missions per faction. Of course, something like that cannot fit on 1 measly Dual layered DVD. So they are "forced" to release 3 versions.

You ARROGANT Hermits are such a joke. Especially the american ones. 1 blu-Ray Disk will let Blizzard achieve their dream with Starcraft without the need to release 3 disks and get accused of cashing in on consumers. They can have Extreme HD vidz, as much music and sound effects as they want and loads more.

Blizzard cannot release on Blu-ray of course because ALOT of hermits just find it insulting to own something SONY made. Comments such as "we don't need Blu-Ray" or "our EAX sound is better than fully uncompressed DolbyTrue HD" are just so wrong. Stop with the hate and plz move on with better tech. So devs like Blizzard are not "forced" to release3 DVDS when they don't have to.

Flame away....like I care.

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#2 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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If games like MGS4 and Resistance 2 are any indication of what blu ray can do then hermits should be happy its not being made on that format lol.
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You know the reason this argument fails? Because each campaign is being developed and released at a different time so they can get the game out faster. Oh silly cows.
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#4 loco145
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PCs have blueray players.
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#5 omgimba
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Cause it would be so hard packing in 3 DvD discs in one box....

Yeah, your thread smells of epic win That would be impossible.

Blizzard sells it as 3 games because of simple business tactics, not because of storage limitations. (Since nothing will actully be played right of the disc you can really compress the content too whatever size you want, there are alghoritms that allows for some 50 times compression without problems, just takes some processing power too unpack.)

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#6 kidcool189
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PC blu ray games wont be made until blu ray becomes a basic necessity on home computers, plain and simple

and how do u know they wouldnt still sell the 3 different sets of starcraft 2 if they were to use blu ray....
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So I was wondering the other day what RTS game I should get now that I have played CNC3 Tiberium Wars for ages. I was gonna get RA3 till I noticed how pathetically cheesy it is.

So just recently, I learned of Starcraft 2. Just what I have been looking for. Feels epic, great atmosphere etc. Then the bad news came. Three games will be released. And everyone accuses Blizzard (thats who makes them right) of trying cash in and abuse consumers.

But my take. No way. They wanted an epic game. Thirty Missions per faction. Of course, something like that cannot fit on 1 measly Dual layered DVD. So they are "forced" to release 3 versions.

You ARROGANT Hermits are such a joke. Especially the american ones. 1 blu-Ray Disk will let Blizzard achieve their dream with Starcraft without the need to release 3 disks and get accused of cashing in on consumers. They can have Extreme HD vidz, as much music and sound effects as they want and loads more.

Blizzard cannot release on Blu-ray of course because ALOT of hermits just find it insulting to own something SONY made. Comments such as "we don't need Blu-Ray" or "our EAX sound is better than fully uncompressed DolbyTrue HD" are just so wrong. Stop with the hate and plz move on with better tech. So devs like Blizzard are not "forced" to release3 DVDS when they don't have to.

Flame away....like I care.

rgame1

Disk space has absolutely nothing to do with it...

Time is the issue.

They want to release something to their fans before 2012.

So go away you fanboy.

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#8 aliasfreak
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Flame away....like I care.

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Like I care enough to flame you.

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So I was wondering the other day what RTS game I should get now that I have played CNC3 Tiberium Wars for ages. I was gonna get RA3 till I noticed how pathetically cheesy it is.

So just recently, I learned of Starcraft 2. Just what I have been looking for. Feels epic, great atmosphere etc. Then the bad news came. Three games will be released. And everyone accuses Blizzard (thats who makes them right) of trying cash in and abuse consumers.

But my take. No way. They wanted an epic game. Thirty Missions per faction. Of course, something like that cannot fit on 1 measly Dual layered DVD. So they are "forced" to release 3 versions.

You ARROGANT Hermits are such a joke. Especially the american ones. 1 blu-Ray Disk will let Blizzard achieve their dream with Starcraft without the need to release 3 disks and get accused of cashing in on consumers. They can have Extreme HD vidz, as much music and sound effects as they want and loads more.

Blizzard cannot release on Blu-ray of course because ALOT of hermits just find it insulting to own something SONY made. Comments such as "we don't need Blu-Ray" or "our EAX sound is better than fully uncompressed DolbyTrue HD" are just so wrong. Stop with the hate and plz move on with better tech. So devs like Blizzard are not "forced" to release3 DVDS when they don't have to.

Flame away....like I care.

rgame1

Dude.... Diablo 2 was released on FOUR DISCS. Do you really think Blizzard would have a problem now with releasing a game on multiple DVDs if they thought it necessary? The bottom-line is not that BluRay is necessary; it's that there is no motivation for PC developers to use it yet because even the smallest hard drive would have no problem installing a complete copy of the game.

Damage control denied. SC2 was designed to be told with three PARALLEL stories: one primary, and two optional.

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#10 IgGy621985
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Wait. You actually believe Blizzard is forced to release StarCraft 2 in three releases because not many PC gamers own Blu-ray drives? :?

It has nothing to do with... dunno... more profit?

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If games like MGS4 and Resistance 2 are any indication of what blu ray can do then hermits should be happy its not being made on that format lol.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

...what?

Please explain.

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#12 horrowhip
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Wait. You actually believe Blizzard is forced to release StarCraft 2 in three releases because not many PC gamers own Blu-ray drives? :?

It has nothing to do with... dunno... more profit?

IgGy621985

More than anything it has to do with the time it takes to develop 3 epic campaigns...

They are doing it this way so fans can play the game sooner, rather than later, without Blizzard having to compromise their vision.

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#13 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]If games like MGS4 and Resistance 2 are any indication of what blu ray can do then hermits should be happy its not being made on that format lol.ToScA-

...what?

Please explain.

I don't quite understand it, either. How good those two games look has absolutely nothing to do with BluRay.

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So I was wondering the other day what RTS game I should get now that I have played CNC3 Tiberium Wars for ages. I was gonna get RA3 till I noticed how pathetically cheesy it is.

So just recently, I learned of Starcraft 2. Just what I have been looking for. Feels epic, great atmosphere etc. Then the bad news came. Three games will be released. And everyone accuses Blizzard (thats who makes them right) of trying cash in and abuse consumers.

But my take. No way. They wanted an epic game. Thirty Missions per faction. Of course, something like that cannot fit on 1 measly Dual layered DVD. So they are "forced" to release 3 versions.

You ARROGANT Hermits are such a joke. Especially the american ones. 1 blu-Ray Disk will let Blizzard achieve their dream with Starcraft without the need to release 3 disks and get accused of cashing in on consumers. They can have Extreme HD vidz, as much music and sound effects as they want and loads more.

Blizzard cannot release on Blu-ray of course because ALOT of hermits just find it insulting to own something SONY made. Comments such as "we don't need Blu-Ray" or "our EAX sound is better than fully uncompressed DolbyTrue HD" are just so wrong. Stop with the hate and plz move on with better tech. So devs like Blizzard are not "forced" to release3 DVDS when they don't have to.

Flame away....like I care.

rgame1

When did Blizzard ever say that storage is what is limiting Starcraft? Thats just about the stupedist thing ive ever heard. PC games are installed on the HDD so storage is NEVER a problem. You just release on multible disks. Even up to 2005 games where being dual released on 5+ CD's or one DVD.

Blizzard CLEARLY stated that to achieve a 90+ mission campaign that was up to their quality standards it would take them years longer (they probably dont care about that but it also costs allot more money). Thats also three times the contend as any other game and you cant expect a developer to spend that much time and money on one game and only get 50$ for it. This way the fans get Starcraft earlier and Blizzard can make enough money to justify the size of the game.

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#15 diped
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One could easily fit 3 campaigns on 1 dual layered disc, not to mention on PC multiple disks are used often.
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#16 IgGy621985
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[QUOTE="IgGy621985"]

Wait. You actually believe Blizzard is forced to release StarCraft 2 in three releases because not many PC gamers own Blu-ray drives? :?

It has nothing to do with... dunno... more profit?

horrowhip

More than anything it has to do with the time it takes to develop 3 epic campaigns...

They are doing it this way so fans can play the game sooner, rather than later, without Blizzard having to compromise their vision.

Okay, whatever. I'll still gonna buy all three games. But, let's face it. The main reason behind this decision is pure and simple - more profit.

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#17 soiheardyoulike
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Fail troll is fail.

Why would i go out and blow money on a br drive for my PC. And like said its a bout time and not space.

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But my take. No way. They wanted an epic game. Thirty Missions per faction. Of course, something like that cannot fit on 1 measly Dual layered DVD. So they are "forced" to release 3 versions.

rgame1

Why not ? Starcraft isn't the kind of game that requires a lot of space, it's an RTS. All the campaign stuff are just reusing the same things over and over. The only thing that could take a lot of space would be the voice dialogues and CG cutscenes. But then again, a game with as much dialogue as Oblivion fitted in a DVD alright.

It's just milking, dude.

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#19 omgimba
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Blizzard cannot release on Blu-ray of course because ALOT of hermits just find it insulting to own something SONY made.

rgame1

That makes sence.. Sony and Philips where the primary devs of the original CD format.

They where also the primary devs of the DvD format..

As they are the primary devs of the Blu-Ray format..

Why Do I detect troll topic?.. I just hate trolls, such a waste of time...

Wish they could all just get banned.

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#20 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="horrowhip"][QUOTE="IgGy621985"]

Wait. You actually believe Blizzard is forced to release StarCraft 2 in three releases because not many PC gamers own Blu-ray drives? :?

It has nothing to do with... dunno... more profit?

IgGy621985

More than anything it has to do with the time it takes to develop 3 epic campaigns...

They are doing it this way so fans can play the game sooner, rather than later, without Blizzard having to compromise their vision.

Okay, whatever. I'll still gonna buy all three games. But, let's face it. The main reason behind this decision is pure and simple - more profit.

Um....duh? So what? The point of everything in this business is profit. But Blizzard is giving us more bang for our buck than pretty much any other developer. Who in his right mind can complain about that?

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#21 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="rgame1"]

But my take. No way. They wanted an epic game. Thirty Missions per faction. Of course, something like that cannot fit on 1 measly Dual layered DVD. So they are "forced" to release 3 versions.

Gamer4Iife

Why not ? Starcraft isn't the kind of game that requires a lot of space, it's an RTS. All the campaign stuff are just reusing the same things over and over. The only thing that could take a lot of space would be the voice dialogues and CG cutscenes. But then again, a game with as much dialogue as Oblivion fitted in a DVD alright.

It's just milking, dude.

Few other developers, if any at all, are giving us nearly as much content-per-dollar as Blizzard is with StarCraft 2, and you still call it "milking"? Gimme a break.

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they didnt seem to mind putting wow on 6 cd's
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#23 rgame1
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You know the reason this argument fails? Because each campaign is being developed and released at a different time so they can get the game out faster. Oh silly cows.Espada12

no not really. They have had 10 years to make it.

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#24 horrowhip
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[QUOTE="horrowhip"][QUOTE="IgGy621985"]

Wait. You actually believe Blizzard is forced to release StarCraft 2 in three releases because not many PC gamers own Blu-ray drives? :?

It has nothing to do with... dunno... more profit?

IgGy621985

More than anything it has to do with the time it takes to develop 3 epic campaigns...

They are doing it this way so fans can play the game sooner, rather than later, without Blizzard having to compromise their vision.

Okay, whatever. I'll still gonna buy all three games. But, let's face it. The main reason behind this decision is pure and simple - more profit.

I would bet money that the profits had very little to do with it.

Their fans have been waiting 10 years already. Something >>> Nothing. This style of release allows them the time they need to make a huge campaign, but also gets the game to their fans as fast as possible.

Everyone acts like Blizzard is pure greed now...

If Blizzard was only concerned with profits you would be seeing World of Starcraft and World of Diablo, not Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3. You also wouldn't see them saying that Starcraft 2's total campaign length with all 3 games is over 100 hours...

They aren't trying to screw their fans, they are just trying to make the best game possible and release it as soon as possible.

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#25 TOAO_Cyrus1
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[QUOTE="horrowhip"][QUOTE="IgGy621985"]

Wait. You actually believe Blizzard is forced to release StarCraft 2 in three releases because not many PC gamers own Blu-ray drives? :?

It has nothing to do with... dunno... more profit?

IgGy621985

More than anything it has to do with the time it takes to develop 3 epic campaigns...

They are doing it this way so fans can play the game sooner, rather than later, without Blizzard having to compromise their vision.

Okay, whatever. I'll still gonna buy all three games. But, let's face it. The main reason behind this decision is pure and simple - more profit.

True but you cant expect Blizzard to release a campaign 3x the normal size and not charge more for it.

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#26 rgame1
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PCs have blueray players.loco145

yes, but you hermits vehmently decide that its not needed, when actually, it would be good for devs and they would not be afraid to use it.

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#27 ace52387
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What makes you think of blizz as all benevolent, trying to acheive their "dream" of an epic SC? It's all about the $$, and if they believed one installment w/ 10 missions a faction like SC1 would have been the path to $$, that's what they would have done. Obviously, the fanbase is pretty rabid, and they figured they could hit up 3 seperate releases to milk the freak fans who are willing to spend 180, while still letting the regs play multiplayer with 1 installment. Blu-ray wouldn't have changed anything.

I think it's a pretty stupid idea, personally, because you know there will definitely be expansions that will just milk you even more. The pot is pretty sour too once you've gotten 1 of the installments, as you're paying 60 bucks for 30 RTS missions basically, since the rest of the functionality in the game is already there. That's not worth it. Might work for something like Guild Wars, but an RTS?! come on....

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[QUOTE="Espada12"]You know the reason this argument fails? Because each campaign is being developed and released at a different time so they can get the game out faster. Oh silly cows.rgame1

no not really. They have had 10 years to make it.

... This is Blizzard.

Also, when they install on the HDD anyway, why is disk space even matter?

They could just release with 3 disks to install.

And installing off DVD is actually faster than installing off Blu-Ray.

Your argument fails.

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#29 rgame1
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[QUOTE="rgame1"]

So I was wondering the other day what RTS game I should get now that I have played CNC3 Tiberium Wars for ages. I was gonna get RA3 till I noticed how pathetically cheesy it is.

So just recently, I learned of Starcraft 2. Just what I have been looking for. Feels epic, great atmosphere etc. Then the bad news came. Three games will be released. And everyone accuses Blizzard (thats who makes them right) of trying cash in and abuse consumers.

But my take. No way. They wanted an epic game. Thirty Missions per faction. Of course, something like that cannot fit on 1 measly Dual layered DVD. So they are "forced" to release 3 versions.

You ARROGANT Hermits are such a joke. Especially the american ones. 1 blu-Ray Disk will let Blizzard achieve their dream with Starcraft without the need to release 3 disks and get accused of cashing in on consumers. They can have Extreme HD vidz, as much music and sound effects as they want and loads more.

Blizzard cannot release on Blu-ray of course because ALOT of hermits just find it insulting to own something SONY made. Comments such as "we don't need Blu-Ray" or "our EAX sound is better than fully uncompressed DolbyTrue HD" are just so wrong. Stop with the hate and plz move on with better tech. So devs like Blizzard are not "forced" to release3 DVDS when they don't have to.

Flame away....like I care.

TOAO_Cyrus1

When did Blizzard ever say that storage is what is limiting Starcraft? Thats just about the stupedist thing ive ever heard. PC games are installed on the HDD so storage is NEVER a problem. You just release on multible disks. Even up to 2005 games where being dual released on 5+ CD's or one DVD.

Blizzard CLEARLY stated that to achieve a 90+ mission campaign that was up to their quality standards it would take them years longer (they probably dont care about that but it also costs allot more money). Thats also three times the contend as any other game and you cant expect a developer to spend that much time and money on one game and only get 50$ for it. This way the fans get Starcraft earlier and Blizzard can make enough money to justify the size of the game.

they won't say it. But it is. if they told you that, they can't sell it 3 times over.

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[QUOTE="loco145"]PCs have blueray players.rgame1

yes, but you hermits vehmently decide that its not needed, when actually, it would be good for devs and they would not be afraid to use it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=40000531&Description=blu-ray&name=Blu-Ray%20Players

Why the hell should I spend 250$ on a blu ray player when the only benifit would be to avoide switching out a couple of DVD's during a one time install? Developers didnt switch completely to DVD untill 2005 or 2006 because they could still release games on 5 or 6 CD's.

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#31 mjarantilla
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What makes you think of blizz as all benevolent, trying to acheive their "dream" of an epic SC? It's all about the $$, and if they believed one installment w/ 10 missions a faction like SC1 would have been the path to $$, that's what they would have done. Obviously, the fanbase is pretty rabid, and they figured they could hit up 3 seperate releases to milk the freak fans who are willing to spend 180, while still letting the regs play multiplayer with 1 installment. Blu-ray wouldn't have changed anything.

I think it's a pretty stupid idea, personally, because you know there will definitely be expansions that will just milk you even more. The pot is pretty sour too once you've gotten 1 of the installments, as you're paying 60 bucks for 30 RTS missions basically, since the rest of the functionality in the game is already there. That's not worth it. Might work for something like Guild Wars, but an RTS?! come on....ace52387

$50 bucks for a full game, most likely $30 for an expansion. You must be a console gamer if you think PC games, let alone expansions, cost $60.

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#32 horrowhip
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[QUOTE="loco145"]PCs have blueray players.rgame1

yes, but you hermits vehmently decide that its not needed, when actually, it would be good for devs and they would not be afraid to use it.

On PC, Blu-Ray is not needed...

We install every game on the HDD anyway. And Blu-Ray drives are currently significantly slower than DVD drives. Blu-Ray = longer installs for us. Disk space makes no difference since we install...

So, yes Blu-Ray is useless.

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PC doesn't need blu-ray.

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[QUOTE="Espada12"]You know the reason this argument fails? Because each campaign is being developed and released at a different time so they can get the game out faster. Oh silly cows.rgame1

no not really. They have had 10 years to make it.

Wrong... if you don't have facts please stop saying nonsense. They have only been developing the game for 5 years.

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#35 rgame1
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[QUOTE="rgame1"]

But my take. No way. They wanted an epic game. Thirty Missions per faction. Of course, something like that cannot fit on 1 measly Dual layered DVD. So they are "forced" to release 3 versions.

Gamer4Iife

Why not ? Starcraft isn't the kind of game that requires a lot of space, it's an RTS. All the campaign stuff are just reusing the same things over and over. The only thing that could take a lot of space would be the voice dialogues and CG cutscenes. But then again, a game with as much dialogue as Oblivion fitted in a DVD alright.

It's just milking, dude.

err...videos in Extreme HD? Lots and Lots of atmospheric music? Sound effects? voice work? High resolution textures that are not compressed and thus lose their quality?

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#36 Gamer4Iife
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Few other developers, if any at all, are giving us nearly as much content-per-dollar as Blizzard is with StarCraft 2, and you still call it "milking"? Gimme a break.

mjarantilla

Content-per-dollar ? :? They just split the 3 campaigns into 3 "full games", bro... Remember when Starcraft launched, you could get them all in one game ?

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#37 TOAO_Cyrus1
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[QUOTE="Gamer4Iife"][QUOTE="rgame1"]

But my take. No way. They wanted an epic game. Thirty Missions per faction. Of course, something like that cannot fit on 1 measly Dual layered DVD. So they are "forced" to release 3 versions.

rgame1

Why not ? Starcraft isn't the kind of game that requires a lot of space, it's an RTS. All the campaign stuff are just reusing the same things over and over. The only thing that could take a lot of space would be the voice dialogues and CG cutscenes. But then again, a game with as much dialogue as Oblivion fitted in a DVD alright.

It's just milking, dude.

err...videos in Extreme HD? Lots and Lots of atmospheric music? Sound effects? voice work? High resolution textures that are not compressed and thus lose their quality?

4-5 DVD's are not a problem for PC games as stated 5x over in this thread.

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#38 rgame1
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[QUOTE="rgame1"]

[QUOTE="Espada12"]You know the reason this argument fails? Because each campaign is being developed and released at a different time so they can get the game out faster. Oh silly cows.Espada12

no not really. They have had 10 years to make it.

Wrong... if you don't have facts please stop saying nonsense. They have only been developing the game for 5 years.

ok ok. I am new to Starcraft. But don't act like 5 years is a little time. thats still a helluva lot of time.

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#39 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="Gamer4Iife"][QUOTE="rgame1"]

But my take. No way. They wanted an epic game. Thirty Missions per faction. Of course, something like that cannot fit on 1 measly Dual layered DVD. So they are "forced" to release 3 versions.

rgame1

Why not ? Starcraft isn't the kind of game that requires a lot of space, it's an RTS. All the campaign stuff are just reusing the same things over and over. The only thing that could take a lot of space would be the voice dialogues and CG cutscenes. But then again, a game with as much dialogue as Oblivion fitted in a DVD alright.

It's just milking, dude.

err...videos in Extreme HD? Lots and Lots of atmospheric music? Sound effects? voice work? High resolution textures that are not compressed and thus lose their quality?

Are you talking about the latest JRPG, or are you talking about StarCraft II, a game from a developer who had only six 5-min CGI cutscenes in their last non-MMO and relied almost entirely on in-game cutscenes?

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#40 horrowhip
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[QUOTE="Gamer4Iife"][QUOTE="rgame1"]

But my take. No way. They wanted an epic game. Thirty Missions per faction. Of course, something like that cannot fit on 1 measly Dual layered DVD. So they are "forced" to release 3 versions.

rgame1

Why not ? Starcraft isn't the kind of game that requires a lot of space, it's an RTS. All the campaign stuff are just reusing the same things over and over. The only thing that could take a lot of space would be the voice dialogues and CG cutscenes. But then again, a game with as much dialogue as Oblivion fitted in a DVD alright.

It's just milking, dude.

err...videos in Extreme HD? Lots and Lots of atmospheric music? Sound effects? voice work? High resolution textures that are not compressed and thus lose their quality?

Multiple DVD's since we are installing on HDD anyway.

Also, ever heard of lossless compression? Fairly easy to do lossless compression in this era of games.

You fail.

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#41 Espada12
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Few other developers, if any at all, are giving us nearly as much content-per-dollar as Blizzard is with StarCraft 2, and you still call it "milking"? Gimme a break.

Gamer4Iife

Content-per-dollar ? :? They just split the 3 campaigns into 3 "full games", bro... Remember when Starcraft launched, you could get them all in one game ?

You do know the each campaign is 25-30 missions long and non linear right? The original SC only had 30 missions TOTAL meaning 10 per race. Each of these campaigns is longer than all of SC 1.

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#42 IgGy621985
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err...videos in Extreme HD? Lots and Lots of atmospheric music? Sound effects? voice work? High resolution textures that are not compressed and thus lose their quality?

rgame1

Yeah. It's funny how Crysis and Stalker completely owned every Blu-ray released game, including MGS 4 at those departments.

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#43 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Few other developers, if any at all, are giving us nearly as much content-per-dollar as Blizzard is with StarCraft 2, and you still call it "milking"? Gimme a break.

Gamer4Iife

Content-per-dollar ? :? They just split the 3 campaigns into 3 "full games", bro... Remember when Starcraft launched, you could get them all in one game ?

And any one of these campaigns is LONGER than the original StarCraft. So once again, yes, Blizzard is still offering more CONTENT PER DOLLAR than pretty much any game developer. And that's even if they price these campaigns at the full-price $50, which they are not likely to do. More likely, they will be pricing at $30 or $40 for the final two installments.

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#44 horrowhip
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[QUOTE="Espada12"][QUOTE="rgame1"]

[QUOTE="Espada12"]You know the reason this argument fails? Because each campaign is being developed and released at a different time so they can get the game out faster. Oh silly cows.rgame1

no not really. They have had 10 years to make it.

Wrong... if you don't have facts please stop saying nonsense. They have only been developing the game for 5 years.

ok ok. I am new to Starcraft. But don't act like 5 years is a little time. thats still a helluva lot of time.

and this is Blizzard...

Blizzard takes ages to make their games.

WoW was a 6 year development cycle.

Diablo 3 has been a 4.5 year dev cycle...

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#45 TOAO_Cyrus1
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Few other developers, if any at all, are giving us nearly as much content-per-dollar as Blizzard is with StarCraft 2, and you still call it "milking"? Gimme a break.

Gamer4Iife

Content-per-dollar ? :? They just split the 3 campaigns into 3 "full games", bro... Remember when Starcraft launched, you could get them all in one game ?

Yes but Starcraft had just 30 or so missions. This game will be the exact same length but only from one factions perspective. The second two games will include a new campaign and updated multiplayer, just like Brood Wars, and will be priced as expansions. Only difference is they are going to do two expansions instead of one.

And dont try to pass it off as them withholding content for the next two releases. They havent even started on the Zurg and Protoss campaigns.

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#46 cobrax75
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Few other developers, if any at all, are giving us nearly as much content-per-dollar as Blizzard is with StarCraft 2, and you still call it "milking"? Gimme a break.

Gamer4Iife

Content-per-dollar ? :? They just split the 3 campaigns into 3 "full games", bro... Remember when Starcraft launched, you could get them all in one game ?

uh...no, because each campaign is longer than the original Starcraft itself.

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#47 Hewkii
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I think when the Battlechest for this comes out someone should bump this post so we can laugh.
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#48 SSCyborg
Member since 2007 • 7625 Posts

I lol'd

OB is on 2 DVDs.

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#49 horrowhip
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[QUOTE="Gamer4Iife"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Few other developers, if any at all, are giving us nearly as much content-per-dollar as Blizzard is with StarCraft 2, and you still call it "milking"? Gimme a break.

Espada12

Content-per-dollar ? :? They just split the 3 campaigns into 3 "full games", bro... Remember when Starcraft launched, you could get them all in one game ?

You do know the each campaign is 25-30 missions long and non linear right? The original SC only had 30 missions TOTAL meaning 10 per race. Each of these campaigns is longer than all of SC 1.

And you are ignoring the confirmed 5 mission Zerg mini-Campaign / Protoss mini-campaign(they were unclear on one part of this... It may be two 5 mission mini-campaigns, a 5 mission mini-campaign with a bonus mission for the remaining race, or just one 5 mission mini-campaign that covers both races. We will have to wait and see which one it is. They were clear that every single race will have at least ONE campaign mission, so that everyone can get a taste of them).

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#50 ithilgore2006
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Eh, the problem is not space, otherwise they would just release a single package with three discs, the problem is actually development time. If they were to only release it when all three campaigns are finished, the game wouldn't be out for a long time yet, they're effectively spitting the development into three parts, one after the other. Nothing to do with space or blu ray.