Starcraft 2 should not come to consoles

The only console that would probrably work good with RTS games are the Wii and DS.

The RTS games for the 360 looks okay, but it doesn't play the same.

blizzvalve

It doesn't play the same, but it plays fine.  I played the original C&C, Red Alert, and Tiberian Sun on PC and I do just fine with the 360 controls.  Why, you may ask, do I play on a console rather than a PC?  Because I like console gaming more.  There's just something about sitting at a desk with a keyboard/mouse that takes away the fun for me.  To each his own, right?

And if you are listening God, please let this game come to consoles.  It would mean one less melodramatic individual on these forums. 

If it does, I will jump off a bridge. I would rather spend $500 upgrading my PC to play it there than have a watered down crapsickle catering to the console masses. I was raeding the Starcraft 2 breaking news story on Gamespot and saw on the comments "WAHHH WHEN IS IT COMING TO XBOX 360?" Or something to that effect. I just want those that feel that way to know this: I'm jumping off a friggin' bridge the day you get that game on your stupid box.Redfingers

[QUOTE="blizzvalve"]

The only console that would probrably work good with RTS games are the Wii and DS.

The RTS games for the 360 looks okay, but it doesn't play the same.

aliasfreak

It doesn't play the same, but it plays fine. I played the original C&C, Red Alert, and Tiberian Sun on PC and I do just fine with the 360 controls. Why, you may ask, do I play on a console rather than a PC? Because I like console gaming more. There's just something about sitting at a desk with a keyboard/mouse that takes away the fun for me. To each his own, right?

And if you are listening God, please let this game come to consoles. It would mean one less melodramatic individual on these forums.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"]Starcraft 2 should never come outDanm_999

It weakens the "PC gaming is dead" argument.

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If it does, I will jump off a bridge. I would rather spend $500 upgrading my PC to play it there than have a watered down crapsickle catering to the console masses. I was raeding the Starcraft 2 breaking news story on Gamespot and saw on the comments "WAHHH WHEN IS IT COMING TO XBOX 360?" Or something to that effect. I just want those that feel that way to know this: I'm jumping off a friggin' bridge the day you get that game on your stupid box.Redfingers

 Well it will probably come to consoles just as the first one did, but now that the ps3 can do keyboard and mouse I do not see it being a problem.  Nonetheless, I will by every version of SC2 because I have been playing SC since day 1 and it was fun on the N64 between battle.net sessions.

[QUOTE="Redfingers"]If it does, I will jump off a bridge. I would rather spend $500 upgrading my PC to play it there than have a watered down crapsickle catering to the console masses. I was raeding the Starcraft 2 breaking news story on Gamespot and saw on the comments "WAHHH WHEN IS IT COMING TO XBOX 360?" Or something to that effect. I just want those that feel that way to know this: I'm jumping off a friggin' bridge the day you get that game on your stupid box.Dr_DudeMan

Well it will probably come to consoles just as the first one did, but now that the ps3 can do keyboard and mouse I do not see it being a problem. Nonetheless, I will by every version of SC2 because I have been playing SC since day 1 and it was fun on the N64 between battle.net sessions.

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[QUOTE="Redfingers"]If it does, I will jump off a bridge. I would rather spend $500 upgrading my PC to play it there than have a watered down crapsickle catering to the console masses. I was raeding the Starcraft 2 breaking news story on Gamespot and saw on the comments "WAHHH WHEN IS IT COMING TO XBOX 360?" Or something to that effect. I just want those that feel that way to know this: I'm jumping off a friggin' bridge the day you get that game on your stupid box.peacebringer

Well it will probably come to consoles just as the first one did, but now that the ps3 can do keyboard and mouse I do not see it being a problem. Nonetheless, I will by every version of SC2 because I have been playing SC since day 1 and it was fun on the N64 between battle.net sessions.

Have they released anything about spec requirements?

i think that D3 could (and would) work on the Wii (hell even a [great] port of D2 would do me for the Wii), but no way would SC2 work on anything other than PC 

though saying that... D3 is the ONLY game i'll upgrade my pc for. though i am interested in SC2 (granted i'd have to get SC1 1st :?)

[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="Dr_DudeMan"]

[QUOTE="Redfingers"]If it does, I will jump off a bridge. I would rather spend $500 upgrading my PC to play it there than have a watered down crapsickle catering to the console masses. I was raeding the Starcraft 2 breaking news story on Gamespot and saw on the comments "WAHHH WHEN IS IT COMING TO XBOX 360?" Or something to that effect. I just want those that feel that way to know this: I'm jumping off a friggin' bridge the day you get that game on your stupid box.Dr_DudeMan

Well it will probably come to consoles just as the first one did, but now that the ps3 can do keyboard and mouse I do not see it being a problem. Nonetheless, I will by every version of SC2 because I have been playing SC since day 1 and it was fun on the N64 between battle.net sessions.

Have they released anything about spec requirements?

You're such a platform loyalist that you'd rather commit suicide than conceded that Starcraft 2 *gasp* might be possible on a console? Was Command & Conquer 3 simply *ruined* because it exists on the Xbox 360? Get out of here with that nonsense. Pikmin and Pikmin 2 worked fine on the Gamecube, C&C3 was solid on the 360, and Starcraft 2 would (yes, I know, terribly hard to accept) be *just fine* on the Xbox 360 or PS3.

What are you going to do? Complain about the graphics? We've all been playing Starcraft just fine and it's as dated as you can get graphically - or are you going to go the "kb&m only!" route - despite C&C3 proving a control pad works *fine* for RTS gaming? Maybe try a cheap bash at Xbox LIVE, in spite of it being a proven online gaming service?

Frankly, all I see here is a PC gamer afraid that their platform no longer has anything distinguishing it, outside of the ability to upgrade their graphics card.
subrosian

I think it's just that there is no console game that ever had the longevity of any Blizzard game. I grew up on the early Warcrafts, Starcraft, Diablo 1 and 2....and they are absolutely, without a doubt, the BEST games for replay value on the planet. There is such an inherent value in a game that is destroyed when it commits to be multiplatform....magnify that by 9 times when you say "it's going to be a console multiplatform! Share the love with urrybody!"

I'm not going to lie. A part of me wants to silence the Xbox 360 goonbot who thinks he can sit here and say "I WANT IT ON XBOX 360" and, lo, the Console God waves his hand, it it is done. But honestly, I feel that something is seriously compromised on every game that is a console multiplat out of the gate. God forbid it be a Blizzard game.

I still play Warcraft III today, I loaded up Diablo 2 this week for the first time in a few years, and I've been known to play Starcraft....thus, I want nothing compromising this superb title. I own a Playstation 3. I've considered a Wii, as well as an Xbox 360. I'm not saying they're bad platforms. I'm not saying C&C3 or BfME2 are bad games, but I seriously want another PC game that I can pick up 5 years after the fact and still find it thoroughly entertaining. That's why I'm not picking up this title for a PS3. Eventually I'll drop it and move on and never want to touch it again.

An RTS on a console compromises its focus, its longevity, its playability, and, in all likelyhood, it's visuals.

And I'm afraid that as a PC and PS3 gamer who owned a PS2, PS1, etc, it's always the Blizzard games that keep me firmly situated in my computer chair as opposed to the console, which has mostly throwaway titles. I don't think my brother, who recently upgraded his computer with an 8800, and a dual-core, with 2 gigs of RAM, feels very threatened by C&C3 on the Xbox 360, but at the same time, he doesn't regret having his PS3. They're totally different markets. Totally different. I'm going to buy Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Lair, Ratchet and Clank, and Warhawk and probably enjoy them thoroughly, but there is no doubt in my mind that Starcraft 2 will butt**** them.

Battle.net is free. That's all that really situates me there. But just because C&C3 and Pikmin are "fine" games doesn't actually make me entirely sold on the idea of ruining perhaps the most anticipated franchise on the planet by watering it down and soaking down the unwashed masses with its leftovers.

"WHEN'S IT COMING TO XBOX 360?" Christ, if you cannot spend a few hundred dollars making your PC optimal for playing a game like that, you don't really want to play it....so Ghost Recon til you drop, mate, but I'm not really that interested in that crap. 

[QUOTE="subrosian"]You're such a platform loyalist that you'd rather commit suicide than conceded that Starcraft 2 *gasp* might be possible on a console? Was Command & Conquer 3 simply *ruined* because it exists on the Xbox 360? Get out of here with that nonsense. Pikmin and Pikmin 2 worked fine on the Gamecube, C&C3 was solid on the 360, and Starcraft 2 would (yes, I know, terribly hard to accept) be *just fine* on the Xbox 360 or PS3.

What are you going to do? Complain about the graphics? We've all been playing Starcraft just fine and it's as dated as you can get graphically - or are you going to go the "kb&m only!" route - despite C&C3 proving a control pad works *fine* for RTS gaming? Maybe try a cheap bash at Xbox LIVE, in spite of it being a proven online gaming service?

Frankly, all I see here is a PC gamer afraid that their platform no longer has anything distinguishing it, outside of the ability to upgrade their graphics card.
Redfingers

I think it's just that there is no console game that ever had the longevity of any Blizzard game. I grew up on the early Warcrafts, Starcraft, Diablo 1 and 2....and they are absolutely, without a doubt, the BEST games for replay value on the planet. There is such an inherent value in a game that is destroyed when it commits to be multiplatform....magnify that by 9 times when you say "it's going to be a console multiplatform! Share the love with urrybody!"

I'm not going to lie. A part of me wants to silence the Xbox 360 goonbot who thinks he can sit here and say "I WANT IT ON XBOX 360" and, lo, the Console God waves his hand, it it is done. But honestly, I feel that something is seriously compromised on every game that is a console multiplat out of the gate. God forbid it be a Blizzard game.

I still play Warcraft III today, I loaded up Diablo 2 this week for the first time in a few years, and I've been known to play Starcraft....thus, I want nothing compromising this superb title. I own a Playstation 3. I've considered a Wii, as well as an Xbox 360. I'm not saying they're bad platforms. I'm not saying C&C3 or BfME2 are bad games, but I seriously want another PC game that I can pick up 5 years after the fact and still find it thoroughly entertaining. That's why I'm not picking up this title for a PS3. Eventually I'll drop it and move on and never want to touch it again.

An RTS on a console compromises its focus, its longevity, its playability, and, in all likelyhood, it's visuals.

And I'm afraid that as a PC and PS3 gamer who owned a PS2, PS1, etc, it's always the Blizzard games that keep me firmly situated in my computer chair as opposed to the console, which has mostly throwaway titles. I don't think my brother, who recently upgraded his computer with an 8800, and a dual-core, with 2 gigs of RAM, feels very threatened by C&C3 on the Xbox 360, but at the same time, he doesn't regret having his PS3. They're totally different markets. Totally different. I'm going to buy Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Lair, Ratchet and Clank, and Warhawk and probably enjoy them thoroughly, but there is no doubt in my mind that Starcraft 2 will butt**** them.

Battle.net is free. That's all that really situates me there. But just because C&C3 and Pikmin are "fine" games doesn't actually make me entirely sold on the idea of ruining perhaps the most anticipated franchise on the planet by watering it down and soaking down the unwashed masses with its leftovers.

"WHEN'S IT COMING TO XBOX 360?" Christ, if you cannot spend a few hundred dollars making your PC optimal for playing a game like that, you don't really want to play it....so Ghost Recon til you drop, mate, but I'm not really that interested in that crap.

[QUOTE="Dr_DudeMan"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="Dr_DudeMan"]

[QUOTE="Redfingers"]If it does, I will jump off a bridge. I would rather spend $500 upgrading my PC to play it there than have a watered down crapsickle catering to the console masses. I was raeding the Starcraft 2 breaking news story on Gamespot and saw on the comments "WAHHH WHEN IS IT COMING TO XBOX 360?" Or something to that effect. I just want those that feel that way to know this: I'm jumping off a friggin' bridge the day you get that game on your stupid box.peacebringer

Well it will probably come to consoles just as the first one did, but now that the ps3 can do keyboard and mouse I do not see it being a problem. Nonetheless, I will by every version of SC2 because I have been playing SC since day 1 and it was fun on the N64 between battle.net sessions.

Have they released anything about spec requirements?

well i have a dual core amd 1.6 with a gig of ram at 770 mhz (might upgrade to 2) and an nvidia 6700 or something along those lines, so its a little outdated, but I hope it will run.  I ran sc on lowest settings just to minimize the lag in the old days of dial-up, so i just want sc2 to run without framerate hitches and ill be happy. 

[QUOTE="subrosian"]You're such a platform loyalist that you'd rather commit suicide than conceded that Starcraft 2 *gasp* might be possible on a console? Was Command & Conquer 3 simply *ruined* because it exists on the Xbox 360? Get out of here with that nonsense. Pikmin and Pikmin 2 worked fine on the Gamecube, C&C3 was solid on the 360, and Starcraft 2 would (yes, I know, terribly hard to accept) be *just fine* on the Xbox 360 or PS3.

What are you going to do? Complain about the graphics? We've all been playing Starcraft just fine and it's as dated as you can get graphically - or are you going to go the "kb&m only!" route - despite C&C3 proving a control pad works *fine* for RTS gaming? Maybe try a cheap bash at Xbox LIVE, in spite of it being a proven online gaming service?

Frankly, all I see here is a PC gamer afraid that their platform no longer has anything distinguishing it, outside of the ability to upgrade their graphics card.
Redfingers

I think it's just that there is no console game that ever had the longevity of any Blizzard game. I grew up on the early Warcrafts, Starcraft, Diablo 1 and 2....and they are absolutely, without a doubt, the BEST games for replay value on the planet. There is such an inherent value in a game that is destroyed when it commits to be multiplatform....magnify that by 9 times when you say "it's going to be a console multiplatform! Share the love with urrybody!"

I'm not going to lie. A part of me wants to silence the Xbox 360 goonbot who thinks he can sit here and say "I WANT IT ON XBOX 360" and, lo, the Console God waves his hand, it it is done. But honestly, I feel that something is seriously compromised on every game that is a console multiplat out of the gate. God forbid it be a Blizzard game.

I still play Warcraft III today, I loaded up Diablo 2 this week for the first time in a few years, and I've been known to play Starcraft....thus, I want nothing compromising this superb title. I own a Playstation 3. I've considered a Wii, as well as an Xbox 360. I'm not saying they're bad platforms. I'm not saying C&C3 or BfME2 are bad games, but I seriously want another PC game that I can pick up 5 years after the fact and still find it thoroughly entertaining. That's why I'm not picking up this title for a PS3. Eventually I'll drop it and move on and never want to touch it again.

An RTS on a console compromises its focus, its longevity, its playability, and, in all likelyhood, it's visuals.

And I'm afraid that as a PC and PS3 gamer who owned a PS2, PS1, etc, it's always the Blizzard games that keep me firmly situated in my computer chair as opposed to the console, which has mostly throwaway titles. I don't think my brother, who recently upgraded his computer with an 8800, and a dual-core, with 2 gigs of RAM, feels very threatened by C&C3 on the Xbox 360, but at the same time, he doesn't regret having his PS3. They're totally different markets. Totally different. I'm going to buy Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Lair, Ratchet and Clank, and Warhawk and probably enjoy them thoroughly, but there is no doubt in my mind that Starcraft 2 will butt**** them.

Battle.net is free. That's all that really situates me there. But just because C&C3 and Pikmin are "fine" games doesn't actually make me entirely sold on the idea of ruining perhaps the most anticipated franchise on the planet by watering it down and soaking down the unwashed masses with its leftovers.

"WHEN'S IT COMING TO XBOX 360?" Christ, if you cannot spend a few hundred dollars making your PC optimal for playing a game like that, you don't really want to play it....so Ghost Recon til you drop, mate, but I'm not really that interested in that crap.

Good response, but lemmings wont listen, because the way I see it is...the true lemming population on system wars consists of early teens who live and die by their 360 and want ever game on the 360 regardless of whether or not they will play it.  Additionally, most lemmings are too young to even appreciate what sc and battle.net did for gaming.  It paved way for live and all of online gaming in general. 

You're such a platform loyalist that you'd rather commit suicide than conceded that Starcraft 2 *gasp* might be possible on a console? Was Command & Conquer 3 simply *ruined* because it exists on the Xbox 360? Get out of here with that nonsense. Pikmin and Pikmin 2 worked fine on the Gamecube, C&C3 was solid on the 360, and Starcraft 2 would (yes, I know, terribly hard to accept) be *just fine* on the Xbox 360 or PS3.

What are you going to do? Complain about the graphics? We've all been playing Starcraft just fine and it's as dated as you can get graphically - or are you going to go the "kb&m only!" route - despite C&C3 proving a control pad works *fine* for RTS gaming? Maybe try a cheap bash at Xbox LIVE, in spite of it being a proven online gaming service?

Frankly, all I see here is a PC gamer afraid that their platform no longer has anything distinguishing it, outside of the ability to upgrade their graphics card.
subrosian

if you've played starcraft on real maps other than turret D or cannon D you would know that starcraft would never work on a console. sure it would be playable but once you hop online you will get raped harder than a little boy in prison. sure it works with cnc3 and lotr but those game require no micro. all you do is send your army and hope you have more units than the other person thanks because pretty much every single unit in cnc3 is ranged and you fight on land that has no obstacles to move around u just need to send and you'll win. In SC you have to pump miners at all times, manage your army,tech,expo,scout,macro,defend your base all at the same time. im guessing with a control pad you'll get maybe 20-30 apm. noobs on bnet usually have atleast 60-70 apm. If you've played starcraft for more than 5 minutes you'd know what apm is and how important it is. I am not a fanboy, I own a wii and a 360 and a decent computer so dont call me a fanboy.

Well duh, anyone who says RTS are better on consoles is clearly a fanboy. I think the only example of a RTS being even remotely DECENT on a console was Starcraft 64, but even then, the PC version was leaps and bounds ahead.

Still, Blizzard does have some integrity, I doubt they'd ever give console gamers the satisfaction of playing Starcraft 2. I guess I'll have to upgrade eventually. :P