StarCraft HD Remaster Reportedly in Development at Blizzard (PCMR strikes again)

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#1  Edited By deactivated-60bf765068a74
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http://www.gamespot.com/articles/starcraft-hd-remaster-reportedly-in-development-at/1100-6442378/

It seems PC is now joining the remaster generation.

When are we getting new experiences and new stuff? Console gamers have called this the "remaster generation" and its not healthy or good.

PC was supposed to destroy remasters not join them.

Of course im gonna buy this day one and everything and eagerly await diablo 2 remaster but is this really healthy for the market?

I can't wait till i can just bootup diablo 1-2 and starcraft and warcraft 1-2 in the little blizzard launch pad ill have my whole collection thx to blizzard treating their classic games with some respect.

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#2 Kruiz_Bathory
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Hermits won't buy, **** Remasters aimrite?

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RIP consoles

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#4 TheShadowLord07
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Free update for existing owners of the first game, please.

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#5  Edited By oflow
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Wait til they realize it's being remastered to be released on consoles ???

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#6  Edited By jhonMalcovich
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@oflow said:

Wait til they realize it's being remastered to be released on consoles ???

Star Craft 1 was already released on consoles, Nintendo 64, and it sucked a lot. So it won't happen. Star Craft will never touch consoles again.

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#7  Edited By jhonMalcovich
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We don't need a god damn remaster. We need a remake, done on a SCII engine or better.

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#8  Edited By Kruiz_Bathory
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@jhonMalcovich: yes that's why XComm 2 is going to consoles. I think it will come out to consoles too.

There will be riots lol.

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I guess that's a good thing for the Koreans.

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#10  Edited By jhonMalcovich
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@Kruiz_Bathory said:

@jhonMalcovich: yes that's why XComm 2 is going to consoles. I think it will come out to consoles too.

There will be riots lol.

XCOM2 is coming to consoles because is turn-based. There will be no riots because the last RTS from PC released on consoles was 8 years ago, Red Alert 3, and it was a major flop. Unless console get a native M/K support, not a single RTS will touch consoles.

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#11 Cloud_imperium
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Now that's what I'm taking about motherfvckers. Starcraft is awesome but it's definitely showing its age when it comes to AI, path finding and grouping. Cutscenes also need to be redone. This is excellent news.

@Kruiz_Bathory said:

Hermits won't buy, **** Remasters aimrite?

1 year old game's full priced 1080p port disguised as "remaster" and recreation of over a decade old classic isn't the same thing.

@Kruiz_Bathory said:

@jhonMalcovich: yes that's why XComm 2 is going to consoles. I think it will come out to consoles too.

There will be riots lol.

XCom 2 is turn based, which is easier to bring on Consoles compared to RTS. Not to mention, even XCom 2 was an after thought on Consoles and the port is being outsourced, and we have yet to see how it'll perform. That said, it'll be a good thing if it comes to Consoles because more people will be able to play this masterpiece but I doubt it.

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#12 Kruiz_Bathory
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@jhonMalcovich: and because they can't handle the awesomeness.

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#13 Kruiz_Bathory
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@Cloud_imperium: so you think this will be a remake not a remaster?

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If it's cheap i'd get it just for widescreen support.

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@Kruiz_Bathory said:

@Cloud_imperium: so you think this will be a remake not a remaster?

I'm just saying that 1080p ports aren't exactly remasters (look at Homeworld remaster to see how it's done) and this will probably receive new assets from scratch (more of a remake than remaster,,, yes). But that's just my guess.

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#16  Edited By jhonMalcovich
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@Cloud_imperium said:
@Kruiz_Bathory said:

@Cloud_imperium: so you think this will be a remake not a remaster?

I'm just saying that 1080p ports aren't exactly remasters (look at Homeworld remaster to see how it's done) and this will probably receive new assets from scratch (more of a remake than remaster,,, yes). But that's just my guess.

Yeh, I hope it's a proper remaster, and not like Age of Empires 2 HD update.

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#17 Cloud_imperium
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@jhonMalcovich said:
@Cloud_imperium said:

I'm just saying that 1080p ports aren't exactly remasters (look at Homeworld remaster to see how it's done) and this will probably receive new assets from scratch (more of a remake than remaster,,, yes). But that's just my guess.

Yeh, I hope it's a proper remaster, and not like Age of Empires 2 HD update.

Agreed. But if they are using Starcraft 2 engine then it'll be a true remaster instead of being touched up version of the original. They'll have to fix issues with the first one like path finding and grouping system, that they can only achieve through new engine and scripts.

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#18  Edited By oflow
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@jhonMalcovich: lol hermits said the same thing about Diablo 3.???

I was really only joking anyway since I personally don't care about Starcraft in general. old game is old remastered or not.

There were a lot more RTS games released on 360 than Red Alert 3 and lots of people liked them. BFME2, Universe at War, Surpreme Commander, Mark of Chaos, RUSE, End War, Halo Wars. The Halo Wars 2 beta was pretty good too.

If Xbox 360 can run supreme commander with no problems (it actually plays pretty good and I put 100s of hours into the PC version to compare) I really don't see how current consoles couldn't run Starcraft. wouldnt be as pretty but it could be done.

As someone that plays a lot of RTS I find it funny how hermits don't understand consoles can easily run games like this. It really boils down to them making a good ui for it. Same with MMOs.

There's a market for it. Look at how many people wanted Halo Wars 2.

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@jhonMalcovich: all I hope it's that it doesn't end up like that Marvel game activision is trying to push for 60.

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#20  Edited By jhonMalcovich
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@oflow said:

@jhonMalcovich: lol hermits said the same thing about Diablo 3.???

I was really only joking anyway since I personally don't care about Starcraft in general. old game is old remastered or not.

There were a lot more RTS games released on 360 than Red Alert 3 and lots of people liked them. BFME2, Universe at War, Surpreme Commander, Mark of Chaos, RUSE, End War, Halo Wars. The Halo Wars 2 beta was pretty good too.

If Xbox 360 can run supreme commander with no problems (it actually plays pretty good and I put 100s of hours into the PC version to compare) I really don't see how current consoles couldn't run Starcraft. wouldnt be as pretty but it could be done.

As someone that plays a lot of RTS I find it funny how hermits don't understand consoles can easily run games like this. It really boils down to them making a good ui for it. Same with MMOs.

There's a market for it. Look at how many people wanted Halo Wars 2.

Almost all RTS you listed have been released in 2006-2008, so basically 8 years ago. Ruse is the only one that has been released in 2010, 6 years ago. That talks volumes on how popular RTS resulted to be on consoles. From 2008 to 2016 there were dozens of quality RTS released on PC. None was released on consoles. After RUSE, which was a major flop, developers stop trying to port RTS genre to consoles. The genre just doesn't work with a controller. It's like trying to play gitar hero with a flight stick. Halo Wars 2 is the only new attempt to make RTS genre work on consoles. Me personally I don't care about RTS being released on consoles as long as there are no sacrifices in a PC version to make it work with a controller.

Secondly, all RTS you listed were experimental. Star Craft is too hardcore for consoles. It won't sell enough and you can't play it properly with a controller. Game play in Star Craft is too fast and shortcut heavy to make it work on consoles. Otherwise they would port SC2 looooong time ago.

As I already said, the ONLY way for RTS to come to consoles, is getting native M/K support. Period.

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#21  Edited By oflow
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@jhonMalcovich: Like I said I don't really care but I find your 'too hardcore' comment kinda laughable. Not really buying anything you said since Supreme Commander is a much more complex RTS than Starcraft and they made it work shortcuts and all. I get it a console version wouldn't work in the SC competitive scene but it could easily be playable for a casual market which was the original audience anyway.

As far as the time period goes, it's not like RTS games are booming on PC either. Outside of TW, CoH, Grey Goo, SoaSE, DoW and the HW games not much has happened in the RTS main stream on PC either. stuff like Europa Universalis and Hearts of Iron aren't mainstream even on PC.

As far as other games Tropico 5 is on consoles right now and Cities Skylines is coming so you're kinda wrong on that front again.

Not to mention that MS already said they will probably be adding kb/m support to Xbox with Windows 10.

Blizzard like it or not is definitely moving into console space and I really wouldn't be surprised if the SC remaster popped up on consoles. That and Heroes of the Storm.

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@oflow said:

@jhonMalcovich: Like I said I don't really care but I find your 'too hardcore' comment kinda laughable. Not really buying anything you said since Supreme Commander is a much more complex RTS than Starcraft and they made it work shortcuts and all. I get it a console version wouldn't work in the SC competitive scene but it could easily be playable for a casual market which was the original audience anyway.

As far as the time period goes, it's not like RTS games are booming on PC either. Outside of TW, CoH, Grey Goo, SoaSE, DoW and the HW games not much has happened in the RTS main stream on PC either. stuff like Europa Universalis and Hearts of Iron aren't mainstream even on PC.

As far as other games Tropico 5 is on consoles right now and Cities Skylines is coming so you're kinda wrong on that front again.

Not to mention that MS already said they will probably be adding kb/m support to Xbox with Windows 10.

Blizzard like it or not is definitely moving into console space and I really wouldn't be surprised if the SC remaster popped up on consoles. That and Heroes of the Storm.

Well, I can hardly take your word for that Supreme Commander has been successfully ported to consoles as MC of the console version is abysmal compared to PC's. Trópico and Skylines are not in the same genre as Star Craft. Those are real time city builders with a pause button. They lack the tactical urgency of action of SC. No offense, but there is zero evidence or even rumours that Blizzard is planning to port it's RTS on consoles. I understand why they ported Diablo as it's an action rpg with a single character to control, but Diablo is not an RTS.

I know you want to see RTS ported to consoles for the lulz, but it won't happen as there is not single indication for that. The situation may change with Scorpio as MS has promised a native M/K support but until then it won't happen.

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#23 deactivated-5a8875b6c648f
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Remaster or Remake?

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@Kruiz_Bathory said:

Hermits won't buy, **** Remasters aimrite?

I won't, I think this is a boring idea... I wouldn't play Diablo 2 remastered either.

Why? because they are done to death and you already know the content....

So what joy is there?

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Eh.

Warcraft 4 plz.

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#26 coasterguy65
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Not a big fan of remasters, but I would buy a SC remaster day one if the price is right. Throw in a remastered Brood War and I'm so there.

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I think console gamers will be just fine.

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Didn't somebody already make a mod for StarCraft II with all the original's missions with dialogue?

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@ProtossRushX said:

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/starcraft-hd-remaster-reportedly-in-development-at/1100-6442378/

It seems PC is now joining the remaster generation.

When are we getting new experiences and new stuff? Console gamers have called this the "remaster generation" and its not healthy or good.

PC was supposed to destroy remasters not join them.

Of course im gonna buy this day one and everything and eagerly await diablo 2 remaster but is this really healthy for the market?

I can't wait till i can just bootup diablo 1-2 and starcraft and warcraft 1-2 in the little blizzard launch pad ill have my whole collection thx to blizzard treating their classic games with some respect.

Like Hollywood's comics to movie conversions, they are running out of ideas...

Star Trek 2009 is a reboot for the old Start Trek.

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I will probably get it. I wonder if you'll have to be online to play the campaign.

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#31  Edited By ominous_titan
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Whatever, when you're pcmr money is nothing Ill buy fiveand won't even play it.

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#32 Lucianu
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@SOedipus said:

I will probably get it. I wonder if you'll have to be online to play the campaign.

I hope not, and I hope they won't miss Brood War.

But this is 2016. Of course it'll require online, just like the rest of their recent games. And of course they wont include Brood War, that's going to be an add-on remaster a year after release, for the right price.

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@MBirdy88 said:
@Kruiz_Bathory said:

Hermits won't buy, **** Remasters aimrite?

I won't, I think this is a boring idea... I wouldn't play Diablo 2 remastered either.

Why? because they are done to death and you already know the content....

So what joy is there?

Despite knowing the content, I have more fun with the original Starcraft and Diablo 2 than the sequels. I'd much rather play an improved version of something I know I love versus buying something that I might not like.

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@foxhound_fox said:

Didn't somebody already make a mod for StarCraft II with all the original's missions with dialogue?

Yes they did. Hope it's better than mod. Otherwise it won't be impressive.

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I would totally buy this for around $30. One of my favorite games of all time.

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#36  Edited By MirkoS77
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Bring on remakes and remasters. I can't tell you how badly I'd love to see games such as Fallout 2, X Wing and Tie Fighter, the original X-Com, Freedom Fighters, Full Spectrum Warrior, Road Rash, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Masters of Orion 2, Populus, Descent, and many many more....all remastered or remade. There's many excellent games in the past that would tremendously benefit from current technology, and I say to tap the well.

It's not like we don't get new games. I've been gaming since the early eighties and've never felt so privileged in selection and frequency. Ever since Steam and DD came out, I've been happy as a clown as a gamer.

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Starcraft is overrated, the only thing interesting about the game is the story, that's basically it.

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#38 GarGx1
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@Kruiz_Bathory said:

Hermits won't buy, **** Remasters aimrite?

When PC gets a re-master, it's for a classic game such as Homeworld and now, it seems StarCraft. Consoles get re-masters of games that are a year or two old.

@MirkoS77 said:

Bring on remakes and remasters. I can't tell you how badly I'd love to see games such as Fallout 2, X Wing and Tie Fighter, the original X-Com, Freedom Fighters, Full Spectrum Warrior, Road Rash, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Masters of Orion 2, Populus, Descent, and many many more....all remastered or remade. There's many excellent games in the past that would tremendously benefit from current technology, and I say to tap the well.

It's not like we don't get new games. I've been gaming since the early eighties and've never felt so privileged in selection and frequency. Ever since Steam and DD came out, I've been happy as a clown as a gamer.

This I completely agree with, there are many classic games that could benefit from a re-make with modern tech.

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#39  Edited By Funk21312
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@GarGx1 said:
@Kruiz_Bathory said:

Hermits won't buy, **** Remasters aimrite?

When PC gets a re-master, it's for a classic game such as Homeworld and now, it seems StarCraft. Consoles get re-masters of games that are a year or two old.

This I completely agree with, there are many classic games that could benefit from a re-make with modern tech.

The Last of Us and Uncharted got remasters because of all the lems that jumped ship.

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@jhonMalcovich said:
@oflow said:

Wait til they realize it's being remastered to be released on consoles ???

Star Craft 1 was already released on consoles, Nintendo 64, and it sucked a lot. So it won't happen. Star Craft will never touch consoles again.

Lulz, I remember people saying that about Diablo. Or how people said Overwatch will never come to consoles, or how about XCOM 2? Lulz.

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#41  Edited By casharmy
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@Blabadon said:

RIP consoles

lol user your logic here, they are doing this remaster so they can also release it...on consoles! lol feel free to bookmark this so I can come back and laugh at your post later.

I remember how Hermits were fapping to xcom2 as an almighty PC exclusive that couldn't be handled by console...lol that didn't last long now did it?

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@casharmy: one day you'll learn what a joke is. That day can come faster if you buy a mirror.

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#43  Edited By casharmy
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@casharmy: one day you'll learn what a joke is. That day can come faster if you buy a mirror.

Cute, I touched your emotion with my post. Grow up little one.

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@Kruiz_Bathory said:

Hermits won't buy, **** Remasters aimrite?

Are you kidding? This is Blizzard. People will rush out to buy this on day 1. The amount of Blizz fanboys is staggering.

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@Kruiz_Bathory said:

Hermits won't buy, **** Remasters aimrite?

Typically we only laugh at remasters of recent games and/or with practically no gfx changes. So yes, most of console ones