Starcraft II will feature no LAN support to combat piracy.

I checked the first six pages, and I saw no thread on this. Sorry if there is one already.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6212765.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=topstory&tag=topstory;title

Discuss.

FLOP confirmed :twisted:

The honest gamers suffer because of the pirates actions, GG Blizzard.

That is a huge failure, Starcraft among a few others are the only decent lan games left, games like Quake, Battlefield are the only great ones left.

We have lost a brave soldier today men *Cues trumpet's as we lower coffin*

http://www.petitiononline.com/LANSC2/petition.html AND so it begins.

Well I've never even been to a LAN party nor do I ever want to go to one, so cool with me :P.Lethalhazard

A bnet service is replacing lan. I am sure they are going to just implenet lan but you have to connect to bnet. And there's a topic on this already. About 3 i think.

[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"]Well I've never even been to a LAN party nor do I ever want to go to one, so cool with me :P.EmperorSupreme

I'm not PC game savy but I was under the impression that Starcraft got popular BECAUSE of lan. Why would they remove such an important feature for people who had no intention of buying it to begin with?

I'm not PC game savy but I was under the impression that Starcraft got popular BECAUSE of lan. Why would they remove such an important feature for people who had no intention of buying it to begin with?

ActicEdge

Im not really seeing the issue. Whats the differene between LAN and a bunch of people in a room all joining the same game on Bnet hosted by someone else in that room? Its certainly not lag since ping is based off of distance and they'd only be several/dozens of feet apart.

Im not really seeing the issue. Whats the differene between LAN and a bunch of people in a room all joining the same game on Bnet hosted by someone else in that room? Its certainly not lag since ping is based off of distance and they'd only be several/dozens of feet apart.

XaosII

it's a huge problem for internet cafes. They only buy 1 copy of a game and install them on all the computers, they don't buy multiple copies of the game.

Im not really seeing the issue. Whats the differene between LAN and a bunch of people in a room all joining the same game on Bnet hosted by someone else in that room? Its certainly not lag since ping is based off of distance and they'd only be several/dozens of feet apart.

XaosII

If SC2 doesn't have lan the game will fail

If SC2 doesn't have lan the game will fail

Trinners

Im not really seeing the issue. Whats the differene between LAN and a bunch of people in a room all joining the same game on Bnet hosted by someone else in that room? Its certainly not lag since ping is based off of distance and they'd only be several/dozens of feet apart.

XaosII

it's a huge problem for internet cafes. They only buy 1 copy of a game and install them on all the computers, they don't buy multiple copies of the game.

Trinners

So....all those whining people just happen to be Internet cafe owners?

Besides the fact that you have to have a internet connection running nothing really, but its kind of stupid to not have offline LAN capabilities. this is the year 2009, get with it. Same problem with Steam, if you dont update it will sometimes hang up on you if you want to go offline.Pinkyimp

Isnt it strange that every single person on this site for, against, or neutral to this change has an Internet connection? I can certainly see a legitimate issue for Mr No Internet guy, but then, he wouldn't be able to post anything about it.

[QUOTE="XaosII"]

Im not really seeing the issue. Whats the differene between LAN and a bunch of people in a room all joining the same game on Bnet hosted by someone else in that room? Its certainly not lag since ping is based off of distance and they'd only be several/dozens of feet apart.

Vandalvideo

Thats a nonissue. I regularly game with my brother whos on the same network as me, about 15 feet away, through one IP, and we have about a 15 - 30 ms ping relative to each other.

Not even Koreans with their superhuman reflexes would feel that delay.

[QUOTE="XaosII"]

Im not really seeing the issue. Whats the differene between LAN and a bunch of people in a room all joining the same game on Bnet hosted by someone else in that room? Its certainly not lag since ping is based off of distance and they'd only be several/dozens of feet apart.

Trinners

it's a huge problem for internet cafes. They only buy 1 copy of a game and install them on all the computers, they don't buy multiple copies of the game.

Thats a nonissue. I regularly game with my brother whos on the same network as me, about 15 feet away, through one IP, and we have about a 15 - 30 ms ping relative to each other.Not even Koreans with their superhuman reflexes would feel that delay.XaosII

They already said there is going too be something in Battle.net that will more than make up for this.

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="Lethalhazard"]Well I've never even been to a LAN party nor do I ever want to go to one, so cool with me :P.Lethalhazard

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="XaosII"]

Im not really seeing the issue. Whats the differene between LAN and a bunch of people in a room all joining the same game on Bnet hosted by someone else in that room? Its certainly not lag since ping is based off of distance and they'd only be several/dozens of feet apart.

XaosII

Thats a nonissue. I regularly game with my brother whos on the same network as me, about 15 feet away, through one IP, and we have about a 15 - 30 ms ping relative to each other.

Not even Koreans with their superhuman reflexes would feel that delay.

They already said there is going too be something in Battle.net that will more than make up for this.

-PuLse

And if you have to communicate with B.Net servers at the same time most people can kiss the 15-30 ms goodbye as it becomes 80-150ms or more.

Marka1700

No, that 15 - 30 ms delay is what i get in L4D, Demigod, DoW2, and most other games. All 3 games talk to a master service for keeping stats. For games that dont have any tracking, i usually get around 5 - 15 ms.

[QUOTE="XaosII"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] The difference is the internet, and many people don't want the internet in their background processes causing latency.Marka1700

Thats a nonissue. I regularly game with my brother whos on the same network as me, about 15 feet away, through one IP, and we have about a 15 - 30 ms ping relative to each other.

Not even Koreans with their superhuman reflexes would feel that delay.

Custom games do not communicate with the bnet server.. I've said this before.

[QUOTE="Trinners"]

[QUOTE="XaosII"]

Im not really seeing the issue. Whats the differene between LAN and a bunch of people in a room all joining the same game on Bnet hosted by someone else in that room? Its certainly not lag since ping is based off of distance and they'd only be several/dozens of feet apart.

Zero5000X

it's a huge problem for internet cafes. They only buy 1 copy of a game and install them on all the computers, they don't buy multiple copies of the game.

the main reason people game in internet cafes is for lan not for internet play. all internet cafes use the same copy of the game that's how it works. what you expect them to buy a unique copy of SC, WC3, CS plus a myriad of other games to support 200 computers? yeah right.

[QUOTE="XaosII"]

The difference is the internet, and many people don't want the internet in their background processes causing latency.Vandalvideo

Thats a nonissue. I regularly game with my brother whos on the same network as me, about 15 feet away, through one IP, and we have about a 15 - 30 ms ping relative to each other.

Not even Koreans with their superhuman reflexes would feel that delay.

[QUOTE="Trinners"]

it's a huge problem for internet cafes. They only buy 1 copy of a game and install them on all the computers, they don't buy multiple copies of the game.

XaosII

So....all those whining people just happen to be Internet cafe owners?

Since when did I say that all the whiners are internet cafe owners? :|

Anyways Starcraft's success and longevity is based on it's LAN not on b.net.

I love LAN in Starcraft ;__; Fine! I'll stick with Company of Heroes :evil: Juggernaut140

Ummm, there is no LAN option in Company of Heroes as well. What was the point in saying that?

[QUOTE="Marka1700"]

[QUOTE="XaosII"]

Thats a nonissue. I regularly game with my brother whos on the same network as me, about 15 feet away, through one IP, and we have about a 15 - 30 ms ping relative to each other.

Not even Koreans with their superhuman reflexes would feel that delay.

sSubZerOo

150 ms is a second of delay. that's negligible? :roll:

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"]I love LAN in Starcraft ;__; Fine! I'll stick with Company of Heroes :evil: Redmoonxl2

Ummm, there is no LAN option in Company of Heroes as well. What was the point in saying that?

Im not really seeing the issue. Whats the differene between LAN and a bunch of people in a room all joining the same game on Bnet hosted by someone else in that room? Its certainly not lag since ping is based off of distance and they'd only be several/dozens of feet apart.

[QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"]

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"]I love LAN in Starcraft ;__; Fine! I'll stick with Company of Heroes :evil: Juggernaut140

Ummm, there is no LAN option in Company of Heroes as well. What was the point in saying that?

You're not getting what I'm saying. If your RTS of choice lacks LAN to begin with, why would SC2's lack of LAN be a major issue?

Meh... good idea from a buisness perspective. Why should a lan center be able to milk unlimited computers off one 1 game purchase? How many lan parties today have a setup so crappy, that there isn't enough internet bandwidth to spread around?

The people effected, versus the hype behind this game renders this news rather insignificant.

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"]

Ummm, there is no LAN option in Company of Heroes as well. What was the point in saying that?

Redmoonxl2

You're not getting what I'm saying. If your RTS of choice lacks LAN to begin with, why would SC2's lack of LAN be a major issue?

Meh... good idea from a buisness perspective. Why should a lan center be able to milk unlimited computers off one 1 game purchase? How many lan parties today have a setup so crappy, that there isn't enough internet bandwidth to spread around?

The people effected, versus the hype behind this game renders this news rather insignificant.

SquatsAreAwesom

since lan is the most popular way of playing SC this news is insignificant ok :roll:

This won't help combat piracy, not even the slightest bit. How sad. What devs don't realize is that CUSTOMERS have the power, not them. They can raise the prices, reduce features, whatever, but in the end, all customers have to do is NOT BUY THE GAME. Their stubborn attitude will only contribute to piracy, seeing as many will not want to waste their money on the game anymore...