Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty has the highest skill ceiling out of any game.

On any platform.

I was just watching some Starcraft 2 matches on a master PC, and it reminded me of how awesome a developer Blizzard is. Their artwork is so well done and unique, and I really think they have some of the best art design in the industry. The gameplay in their games is mainly what is so great, IMO. I would put Blizzard right up there with Valve, Bioware, Rockstar, Nintendo, Sony, Bungie, Naughty Dog, From Software, Rocksteady, Retro, and a few other developers in terms of top tier developers. I really think they are the better half of Activision Blizzard.

Anyways, I was watching some matches of 3's Diamond League, and the game is just so intense. The management of resources, the build order, building of units, micromanagement, it is all just overwhelming to me. I have never played the game before, only watched. The game intimidates me, and admittedly, I've never been that great at RTS games, so I respect it that much more. The battles that take place in the game are just so intense, and the teamwork / communication that takes place during the game is unreal. The matches remind me of MMA fights where you see blood, and just go for the kill. It's really hard to put into words, but the game is just very easy to admire and it is obvious that the skill ceiling is very high.

I know other games have high skill ceilings, but I'm just not sure if they are as high as Starcraft II. Fighting games were immediately the next genre in mind. I understand that games like Street Fighter IV, Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3, and quite a few others have very high skill ceilings, as do some first person shooting games like Counter-Strike, Quake, even Halo. I just think that all things considered, SC2 is the highest.

Cannot stand this game and anything made by Blizzard.silversix_

How come?

Topic: Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty has the highest skill ceiling out of any game.

I have never played the game before

arkephonic

Cool judgements, bro

That's cool, I guess. Starcraft, and RTS games in general still look very boring though.

Topic: Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty has the highest skill ceiling out of any game.

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I have never played the game before

SW__Troll

Cool judgements, bro

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Well one of easily. Though I'm not big on RTS, I have not yet seen an RTS that has more tactical nuance than SC2.

Some fighters are pretty intense

and Quake 3 is bloody science at high levels

First off

I have never played the game before, only watched.

arkephonic

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Actually SC:BW (Starcraft Broodwar) has a higher skill cap. I love SC2 (both playing and watching it) but SC:BW definitely deserves that title.

I played the campaign for a couple of hours. Games not for me :(

Actually SC:BW (Starcraft Broodwar) has a higher skill cap. I love SC2 (both playing and watching it) but SC:BW definitely deserves that title.

Priapus101

This.

Brood War's skill ceiling is ****ing insane.

Granted, some of it comes from clunky mechanics that were fixed in SC2, but the skill ceiling is higher nonetheless.

Cannot stand this game and anything made by Blizzard.silversix_

[QUOTE="silversix_"]Cannot stand this game and anything made by Blizzard.silversix_

That's cool. I feel like the biggest bonus PC gamers have is the luxury of playing games made by Blizzard.

Nah, Devil May Cry 3 and Vanquish do.

Starcraft: Brood War has a higher skill ceiling.

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I have never played the game before, only watched.

R3FURBISHED

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[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I have never played the game before, only watched.

AcidSoldner

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Why? Starcraft 2 is a great show even if you don't play the game.

[QUOTE="lordlors"][QUOTE="savebattery"]I laughed at UMVC3 having a high skill ceiling. I mean, there's a decent competitive scene but come on. Virtua Fighter has the highest ceiling. By far.Ace6301

I love SC2 but i can't devote myself to it enough to become good at the multiplayer.

Yeah, there are some games that can intimidate the hell out of us. I was like that when Ninja Gaiden came out. I kept reading reviews that said the game was brutal. I was put off initially but something made me cave in and buy the game. When I played it, yes, it was tough but no where near the game breaking difficulty touted by users or some reviewers. I absolutely loved the game and even finished MN mode.

Don't let the game intimidate you so much that it doesn't make you play it. Chances are, you'll miss out on a gem.

And yes, RTS matches are out of this world. But know one thing - these users use Hotkeys and make atleast 150 moves/actions per minute. If you can get the hang of the build priority and order, master hotkeys, and the speed then you can also play like these users. Starcraft shouldn't be that difficult in the Single Player. But for Multiplayer, you definitely need the skills mentioned previously.

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Actually SC:BW (Starcraft Broodwar) has a higher skill cap. I love SC2 (both playing and watching it) but SC:BW definitely deserves that title.

N30F3N1X

This.

Brood War's skill ceiling is ****ing insane.

Granted, some of it comes from clunky mechanics that were fixed in SC2, but the skill ceiling is higher nonetheless.

I agree. Starcraft 2 is one of the most intense, difficult and tactically brilliant games ever made. Hat off for Blizzard to make very unit count. The smallest unit can change the tide of battle easily.

Well since its a strategy game, I think you are confusing skill with strategy here.

In Starcraft its not about lightning quick reflexes and skill, its about being smart, managing your resources, and its less to do with skill and more to do with strategizing and planning.

Overall I agree, but FRITZ is even MORE SKILL DEMANDING.

I'm going to say Dawn of War's ceiling is higher

Well since its a strategy game, I think you are confusing skill with strategy here.

In Starcraft its not about lightning quick reflexes and skill, its about being smart, managing your resources, and its less to do with skill and more to do with strategizing and planning.

SPYDER0416

I'm going to say Dawn of War's ceiling is higher

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

Well since its a strategy game, I think you are confusing skill with strategy here.

In Starcraft its not about lightning quick reflexes and skill, its about being smart, managing your resources, and its less to do with skill and more to do with strategizing and planning.

rilpas

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I'm going to say Dawn of War's ceiling is higher

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

Well since its a strategy game, I think you are confusing skill with strategy here.

In Starcraft its not about lightning quick reflexes and skill, its about being smart, managing your resources, and its less to do with skill and more to do with strategizing and planning.

lordlors

I never played DoW 2 myself, only the first one

also, what's CoH? :P

EDIT: *facepalms* company of heroes, sorry, sorry :P

never played CoH either

No, Bw is

SC2 is not balanced

LO MARINES, I WIN

No, Bw is

SC2 is not balanced

LO MARINES, I WIN

HaloinventedFPS

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I'm going to say Dawn of War's ceiling is higher

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

Well since its a strategy game, I think you are confusing skill with strategy here.

In Starcraft its not about lightning quick reflexes and skill, its about being smart, managing your resources, and its less to do with skill and more to do with strategizing and planning.

lordlors

DoWII is actually very different prior to retribution anyway SP wise and mp wise DoWII has nothing in common with CoH. in fact CoH i argue is mroe clunky than DoWII and relies to havily on useless stuff. CoH may have been a better experience overall but it had alot more useless ---- in it

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[QUOTE="rilpas"]
isn't that a skill in itself?

ionusX

DoWII is actually very different prior to retribution anyway SP wise and mp wise DoWII has nothing in common with CoH. in fact CoH i argue is mroe clunky than DoWII and relies to havily on useless stuff. CoH may have been a better experience overall but it had alot more useless ---- in it

I played both and although I like DoW, I can't deny that CoH is way better. I loved that game. Was as addicted to it as I was to starcraft.

Anyway OP, I find it hilarious how you listed Blizzard as a "top developer" then proceed to put in place next to trash developers. Half the devs you put it next to are like a joke compared to Blizz. Well at least you didn't put Bioware on your list.

Well since its a strategy game, I think you are confusing skill with strategy here.

In Starcraft its not about lightning quick reflexes and skill, its about being smart, managing your resources, and its less to do with skill and more to do with strategizing and planning.

SPYDER0416

You never played it before...

You've never played it...? So...Badosh

He has watched live competitve gameplay (not trash journalist gameplay). WHy does he need to play it to determine a skill ceiling and be vrey impressed by a game?

babby's first strategy game

[QUOTE="Badosh"]You've never played it...? So...argetlam00

He has watched live competitve gameplay (not trash journalist gameplay). WHy does he need to play it to determine a skill ceiling and be vrey impressed by a game?

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[QUOTE="Badosh"]You've never played it...? So...freedomfreak

He has watched live competitve gameplay (not trash journalist gameplay). WHy does he need to play it to determine a skill ceiling and be vrey impressed by a game?

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

Well since its a strategy game, I think you are confusing skill with strategy here.

In Starcraft its not about lightning quick reflexes and skill, its about being smart, managing your resources, and its less to do with skill and more to do with strategizing and planning.

Inconsistancy

Yeah this is funny, because starcraft 2 is the one strategy game that IS about speed and skill, rather than careful planning and strategy.