Starcraft = Korea's National Sport

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#51 Gxgear
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Korean's are also quite adept at winter sports.

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#52 Lethalhazard
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[QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="Lethalhazard"][QUOTE="markop2003"] By the sound of it KESPA isn't going to pay any attention to Blizzard and may just start using it anyway without paying the royalties

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=121471 KeSPA will die if they do that.

Who is going to force them to pay up? KeSPA is friendly with the goverment so i'm sure they could get it classified as fair use as long as the copies they use are legal.

Perhaps. I don't think anyone can tell unless they're an international copyright lawyer.
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#53 rollermint
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[QUOTE="oajlu"]

if so, then korean has no life...this is pathetic if a country's national sport is a video game.

i think korea's national sport are like taekwondo, soccer, figure skating, or baseball

balfe1990

I agree with this lad..

If this video game is their national " sport " then they are one sad little country...

I'm suprised South Korea doesn't have some obesity epidemic happening right now

And before any of yous quote me for sayinga video game is not a sport, take into account this fact -- ITS NOT. Sport involves excercise, strategy and actually getting out into the fresh air..sitting at a computer screen shooting magic at polygons does not count ( or whatever u do in the game )

And by the way, South Korea are actually quite good at football...

Whats wrong with them making it one of their national sport? Its 2010, time to get up to speed with the fact that notions change over-time. Its considered an e-sport, btw, if it makes you happy. If sport has to include a rigorous physical activity, please go ahead and convince people that curling is a sport as defined by its exhaustive physical exertions. Oh they do sometimes play matches in open-aired areas so there you go, you have strategy, fresh-air, thousands of spectators and some finger exercise :P
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#54 MyopicCanadian
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The real question is.. are there any Starcraft k-pop songs? I'll have to investigate.

In the meantime, here are two soccer songs. Until such time as the popular k-pop bands start making songs about Starcraft, I'd have to say soccer is still their national sport..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUwZ2Y6eLko&fmt=22

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUmxZVtzTf8&fmt=22

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#55 Not-A-Stalker
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[QUOTE="gammon56"][QUOTE="sleepingzzz"]

Actually, American football is the most popular sport in the US. It past baseball some time ago.

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In Texas we worship football basically. Our practices are 5 hours long 6 days a week and this is high school

Wow...what do you want a cookie? Six hour practices 6 days a week. All year long and more of a body work out. I know cause I did it for 12 years and football along side it for 3.

And this is through elementary, middle, and then into High School.

Whop, hold on everyone, we got Captain Badass over here!
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#56 illegalimigrant
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[QUOTE="glez13"]

[QUOTE="illegalimigrant"]America is soccer US is American Football Infact most of the world's is soccer with a few exceptionsthom_maytees

No America isn't soccer. First America is a continent, thus it cannot have a national sport. Second its not soccer its FOOTBALL.

In the eyes of most people in the world, "America" is the United States, not a continent. There is no single American continent, but two -- North America and South America.

I have been in other parts of the world they call it the US not america.
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#57 mlbslugger86
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i've known this for years. i have a south korean friend who is addicted to starcraft. they even had a documentery on this on HBO

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#58 alberth123123
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[QUOTE="yellowsaber"]America is baseball Canada is hockey most of the World is football but I don't think people recognize that if Blizzard doesn't give Korea Starcraft II, that their economy would crash.

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#59 SgtKevali
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[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

[QUOTE="oajlu"]

if so, then korean has no life...this is pathetic if a country's national sport is a video game.

i think korea's national sport are like taekwondo, soccer, figure skating, or baseball

siLVURcross

I agree with this lad..

If this video game is their national " sport " then they are one sad little country...

I'm suprised South Korea doesn't have some obesity epidemic happening right now

And before any of yous quote me for sayinga video game is not a sport, take into account this fact -- ITS NOT. Sport involves excercise, strategy and actually getting out into the fresh air..sitting at a computer screen shooting magic at polygons does not count ( or whatever u do in the game )

And by the way, South Korea are actually quite good at football...

Starcraft IS strategy ;)

A sport, by definition, is physical. And don't tell me that you have to move the mouse, I've heard it. Using your "physical" abilities is not the main part at all.

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#60 skrat_01
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And before any of yous quote me for sayinga video game is not a sport, take into account this fact -- ITS NOT. Sport involves excercise, strategy and actually getting out into the fresh air..sitting at a computer screen shooting magic at polygons does not count ( or whatever u do in the game )

And by the way, South Korea are actually quite good at football...

balfe1990
So pistol shooting isn't a sport. Guess the Olympic committee are totally wrong then :|
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#61 omarguy01
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Yeah I woldn't call it a "sport" (likebaseballcough)... lets just call it a "game" or "passtime"... but "sport" I don't think so.

And to the guy who thinks that's pathetic that "omgee a video gaemz is the sportz lulz" try to think of it as their chess tournaments... yeah.... like chess on steroids with rockets, tanks, nukes, and blood..... lots of blood.

not so pathetic anymore is it? Unless you think chess is stupid in which case... go back to Halo. Leave the thinking games to us big boys.

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#62 Foxhound_spy
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Korea`s national sport is either soccer or baseball ............ ANyway American football is soo boring. Soccer is the no.1 sport on the planet.
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#63 balfe1990
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[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

And before any of yous quote me for sayinga video game is not a sport, take into account this fact -- ITS NOT. Sport involves excercise, strategy and actually getting out into the fresh air..sitting at a computer screen shooting magic at polygons does not count ( or whatever u do in the game )

And by the way, South Korea are actually quite good at football...

skrat_01

So pistol shooting isn't a sport. Guess the Olympic committee are totally wrong then :|

Well I don't think anyone actually considers it a proper sport...Its an Olympic sport yeah, but thats about the full extent of it...

I don't understand how everyone is goin mad at me for saying video games aren't a sport, how blind are you lot??

should I go over to some football/rugby/baseball forum and declare that video games are a sport??? How do you think they would react?

Yeah, they'd laugh and have every right to...Video games are an entertainment medium and nothing else...Considering it a sport is just comical...

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#64 Mograine
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I don't understand how everyone is goin mad at me for saying video games aren't a sport, how blind are you lot??

balfe1990

Hypocrite.

should I go over to some football/rugby/baseball forum and declare that video games are a sport??? How do you think they would react?balfe1990

They would not give a damn.

Yeah, they'd laugh and have every right to...Video games are an entertainment medium and nothing else...Considering it a sport is just comical...

balfe1990

Sports started as entertainment medium and nothing else too.

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#65 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="balfe1990"]

And before any of yous quote me for sayinga video game is not a sport, take into account this fact -- ITS NOT. Sport involves excercise, strategy and actually getting out into the fresh air..sitting at a computer screen shooting magic at polygons does not count ( or whatever u do in the game )

And by the way, South Korea are actually quite good at football...

balfe1990

So pistol shooting isn't a sport. Guess the Olympic committee are totally wrong then :|

Well I don't think anyone actually considers it a proper sport...Its an Olympic sport yeah, but thats about the full extent of it...

I don't understand how everyone is goin mad at me for saying video games aren't a sport, how blind are you lot??

should I go over to some football/rugby/baseball forum and declare that video games are a sport??? How do you think they would react?

Yeah, they'd laugh and have every right to...Video games are an entertainment medium and nothing else...Considering it a sport is just comical...

Anyone considers it one? Hah. The Olympic committee considers it a sport, that completely invalidates anything against it. And of course the majority people who are avid traditional sports fans are going to think against it, what do you expect, esports in western countries are still barley making a dent. It's what they are used to. But then ask someone who lives in the presence of popular e-sports, like yes, south korean star league, and their opinion will most likely be completely different, and will more likely consider it as a sport - as it *is considered as one* there. If you were there, standing in an crowd of thousands watching a tournament and thought otherwise *you* would be laughed at. Go figure. Fact of the matter is your definition or interpretation of what a sport is, is wrong. While I think video games are in their infancy as far as being taken seriously globally as 'sport', and I think the competitive edge of the vast majority of games is far to lenient to be considered something actually compelling, the evidence, particularly south korea stands. Ignoring blatant evidence or the Olympic committee could be called 'blind' - in your own words.
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#66 balfe1990
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[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

I don't understand how everyone is goin mad at me for saying video games aren't a sport, how blind are you lot??

Mograine

Hypocrite.Explain please?!?

should I go over to some football/rugby/baseball forum and declare that video games are a sport??? How do you think they would react?balfe1990

They would not give a damn. Excactly. They would just write me off straight away and not pay any attention because they'd know I was talking complete and utter b******.

Yeah, they'd laugh and have every right to...Video games are an entertainment medium and nothing else...Considering it a sport is just comical...

balfe1990

Sports started as entertainment medium and nothing else too. No. It started as sports. I.e. Phsical activity governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively. Yes a form of entertainment to some degree but primarily the afore-mentioned.

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#67 balfe1990
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[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]So pistol shooting isn't a sport. Guess the Olympic committee are totally wrong then :|skrat_01

Well I don't think anyone actually considers it a proper sport...Its an Olympic sport yeah, but thats about the full extent of it...

I don't understand how everyone is goin mad at me for saying video games aren't a sport, how blind are you lot??

should I go over to some football/rugby/baseball forum and declare that video games are a sport??? How do you think they would react?

Yeah, they'd laugh and have every right to...Video games are an entertainment medium and nothing else...Considering it a sport is just comical...

Anyone considers it one? Hah. The Olympic committee considers it a sport, that completely invalidates anything against it. And of course the majority people who are avid traditional sports fans are going to think against it, what do you expect, esports in western countries are still barley making a dent. It's what they are used to. But then ask someone who lives in the presence of popular e-sports, like yes, south korean star league, and their opinion will most likely be completely different, and will more likely consider it as a sport - as it *is considered as one* there. If you were there, standing in an crowd of thousands watching a tournament and thought otherwise *you* would be laughed at. Go figure. Fact of the matter is your definition or interpretation of what a sport is, is wrong. While I think video games are in their infancy as far as being taken seriously globally as 'sport', and I think the competitive edge of the vast majority of games is far to lenient to be considered something actually compelling, the evidence, particularly south korea stands. Ignoring blatant evidence or the Olympic committee could be called 'blind' - in your own words.

Alrite, I agree with you to some extent, but you keep referring to Video gaming as an e-sport and your spot on.. Video gaming may be a "sport" but its a completely different breed. In other words, its a so-called" e-sport ". Which in turn, alienates it from the category of traditional ( I know im gonna get hate for this) Real sports..

Seriously, would you send your kid to " Little-League Gaming " in lieu of traditional baseball or whatever?

The bottom line IMO is that video-games are not a sport, they're an " e-sport "..Entirely different in my eyes.

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#68 skrat_01
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Alrite, I agree with you to some extent, but you keep referring to Video gaming as an e-sport and your spot on.. Video gaming may be a "sport" but its a completely different breed. In other words, its a so-called" e-sport ". Which in turn, alienates it from the category of traditional ( I know im gonna get hate for this) Real sports..

Seriously, would you send your kid to " Little-League Gaming " in lieu of traditional baseball or whatever?

The bottom line IMO is that video-games are not a sport, they're an " e-sport "..Entirely different in my eyes.

balfe1990

Problem is what is a 'real' sport?

Wherever you go the definition will change, as what is a 'sport' and what isn't will change depending on location.

Though I can't disagree, games fall into the e-sport or 'mind sports' category, and you have 'physical sports'; they are all 'sports' difference is in physical sports are much, much.. much more dominate globally, especially in western society (which is why they are taken so seriously in our culture).

Either way a child getting the best of both worlds is good; sport can be entertainment and social just as much as self improvement.

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#69 balfe1990
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[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

Alrite, I agree with you to some extent, but you keep referring to Video gaming as an e-sport and your spot on.. Video gaming may be a "sport" but its a completely different breed. In other words, its a so-called" e-sport ". Which in turn, alienates it from the category of traditional ( I know im gonna get hate for this) Real sports..

Seriously, would you send your kid to " Little-League Gaming " in lieu of traditional baseball or whatever?

The bottom line IMO is that video-games are not a sport, they're an " e-sport "..Entirely different in my eyes.

skrat_01

Problem is what is a 'real' sport?

Wherever you go the definition will change, as what is a 'sport' and what isn't will change depending on location.

Though I can't disagree, games fall into the e-sport or 'mind sports' category, and you have 'physical sports'; they are all 'sports' difference is in physical sports are much, much.. much more dominate globally, especially in western society (which is why they are taken so seriously in our culture).

Either way a child getting the best of both worlds is good; sport can be entertainment and social just as much as self improvement.

Yeah well I did have the Western world in mind when I was talking about sports but obviously South Koreas culture is vastly different and their idea of a sport is basically an anti-thesis of our own (or mine at least).

Well I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one man, unless we wanna be here all day..;)

I love a good debate:P

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[QUOTE="oajlu"]

if so, then korean has no life...this is pathetic if a country's national sport is a video game.

Mograine

Why? Because they don't like sweating like pigs while running up and down a grass field while trying to get a ball on the opposite side's net?

You are even more pathetic if you think so.

lol you are so funny. ha

in fact, it is just a video game, and many people playinga video gamedoesnt make it a sport.

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#71 Mograine
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lol you are so funny. ha

in fact, it is just a video game, and many people playinga video gamedoesnt make it a sport.

oajlu

It's an e-sport. Many people whining about the physical sport notion doesn't invalidate its definition.

Explain please?!?Balfe1990

You said "how blind are you lot", while in fact you are the one who can't tell one sport from another.

Excactly. They would just write me off straight away and not pay any attention because they'd know I was talking complete and utter b******.Balfe1990

Well, at least you realize and admit you are in fact doing it.

No. It started as sports. I.e. Phsical activity governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively. Yes a form of entertainment to some degree but primarily the afore-mentioned. Balfe1990

Following your own logic, StarCraft is a sport too. Without the "physical" part. That's why its cla$$fication has an "e" before "sport".

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#72 NielsNL
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[QUOTE="glez13"]

[QUOTE="illegalimigrant"]America is soccer US is American Football Infact most of the world's is soccer with a few exceptionsKingTuttle

No America isn't soccer. First America is a continent, thus it cannot have a national sport. Second its not soccer its FOOTBALL.

Hey if we say Soccer in the US that's our business! *throws shoe at you* ;)

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#73 balfe1990
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[QUOTE="oajlu"]

lol you are so funny. ha

in fact, it is just a video game, and many people playinga video gamedoesnt make it a sport.

Mograine

It's an e-sport. Many people whining about the physical sport notion doesn't invalidate its definition.

Explain please?!?Balfe1990

You said "how blind are you lot", while in fact you are the one who can't tell one sport from another.

Excactly. They would just write me off straight away and not pay any attention because they'd know I was talking complete and utter b******.Balfe1990

Well, at least you realize and admit you are in fact doing it.

No. It started as sports. I.e. Phsical activity governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively. Yes a form of entertainment to some degree but primarily the afore-mentioned. Balfe1990

Following your own logic, StarCraft is a sport too. Without the "physical" part. That's why its cla$$fication has an "e" before "sport".

Eh and thats why its an " e-sport " and not a SPORT.

Thank you for further proving my point..

Can we drop it now though please, I can see I'm not gonna get through to anybody on this forum...my logic =/= anybody elses

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#74 balfe1990
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[QUOTE="Mograine"]

[QUOTE="oajlu"]

if so, then korean has no life...this is pathetic if a country's national sport is a video game.

oajlu

Why? Because they don't like sweating like pigs while running up and down a grass field while trying to get a ball on the opposite side's net?

You are even more pathetic if you think so.

lol you are so funny. ha

in fact, it is just a video game, and many people playinga video gamedoesnt make it a sport.

I think we're alone on this sensible notion my friend...

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#75 moistsandwich
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ghgh

They really do love their Starcraft.

Vesica_Prime

Thats Gwangan Beach.... I live 30 min. from there.

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#76 NanoMan88
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I really dont see why they play starcraft, its not particularly strategic, in fact most of the "pro" matches end in 5 min with some guy rushing the other dudes resource units.

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#77 rollermint
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Why are folks getting so butthurt that a bunch of Koreans treat Starcraft as a national sport?