Start up the doomsday clock for Sony

It's SEGA repeating itself, SONY are having to lose many staff to cut costs as the nintendo Wii are outselling the PS3's 5 to 1 even though their are shortages of Wii's and almost every hardcore gamer has at least played the 360.

I've set my doomsday clock at 2008 but of course some of you are going to attack me saying that SONY know what they are doing. So be it but please give a reason, I'll keep changing the doomsday clock to as many positive and netgative comments there are about SONY, k?

A doomsday machine, you say?

I could help with that...

No need for that, SONY are making there own!

Doomsday clock Dec 2007

It's SEGA repeating itself, SONY are having to lose many staff to cut costs as the nintendo Wii are outselling the PS3's 5 to 1 even though their are shortages of Wii's and almost every hardcore gamer has at least played the 360.

I've set my doomsday clock at 2008 but of course some of you are going to attack me saying that SONY know what they are doing. So be it but please give a reason, I'll keep changing the doomsday clock to as many positive and netgative comments there are about SONY, k?

BlackWolf-666

Which one of the 3 do you own?

A)

B)

or C)

It's SEGA repeating itself, SONY are having to lose many staff to cut costs as the nintendo Wii are outselling the PS3's 5 to 1 even though their are shortages of Wii's and almost every hardcore gamer has at least played the 360.

I've set my doomsday clock at 2008 but of course some of you are going to attack me saying that SONY know what they are doing. So be it but please give a reason, I'll keep changing the doomsday clock to as many positive and netgative comments there are about SONY, k?

BlackWolf-666

The doomsday clock was set in spring 06. You know....when the PS3 was "supposed" to launch. :shock:

[QUOTE="BlackWolf-666"]

It's SEGA repeating itself, SONY are having to lose many staff to cut costs as the nintendo Wii are outselling the PS3's 5 to 1 even though their are shortages of Wii's and almost every hardcore gamer has at least played the 360.

I've set my doomsday clock at 2008 but of course some of you are going to attack me saying that SONY know what they are doing. So be it but please give a reason, I'll keep changing the doomsday clock to as many positive and netgative comments there are about SONY, k?

Magical_Zebra

The doomsday clock was set in spring 06. You know....when the PS3 was "supposed" to launch. :shock:

The biggest ownage will be when you have a PS3 in your living room some day, and you'll be to a shame to admit that you do.

I too have little faith in the Potentialstation 3's ability to survive for more than another year or so. Uncharted, Lair and Heavenly Sword need to pick up the slack before MGS4 and FFXIII are released. If the PS3 can't break 6-7 million units worldwide by the end of this year, Sony will certainly be in trouble. They need a big Christmas like the 360 got last year. Can Uncharted do for the PS3 what Gears of War did for 360? Only time will tell, but I have my doubts....

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="BlackWolf-666"]

It's SEGA repeating itself, SONY are having to lose many staff to cut costs as the nintendo Wii are outselling the PS3's 5 to 1 even though their are shortages of Wii's and almost every hardcore gamer has at least played the 360.

I've set my doomsday clock at 2008 but of course some of you are going to attack me saying that SONY know what they are doing. So be it but please give a reason, I'll keep changing the doomsday clock to as many positive and netgative comments there are about SONY, k?

Socrates88

The doomsday clock was set in spring 06. You know....when the PS3 was "supposed" to launch. :shock:

The biggest ownage will be when you have a PS3 in your living room some day, and you'll be to a shame to admit that you do.

Socrates I wouldnt have a problem admitting it. See theres only one problem with your statement. For me to get a ps3 in my house, it would have to have games that I cant play on the 360 or the PC. And it would have to have games that I actually want. And no....Im not a MGS, FF or "Teh Killzone" fan.......... :shock:

Another PS3 is doom thread. We have more analysts in SW create by the minute. Socrates88

Analysts. Economists. Sytem Wars has it all.

I too have little faith in the Potentialstation 3's ability to survive for more than another year or so. Uncharted, Lair and Heavenly Sword need to pick up the slack before MGS4 and FFXIII are released. If the PS3 can't break 6-7 million units worldwide by the end of this year, Sony will certainly be in trouble. They need a big Christmas like the 360 got last year. Can Uncharted do for the PS3 what Gears of War did for 360? Only time will tell, but I have my doubts....

SkyCastleDan

Why does it come down to "survival"? :?

If the PS3 still sells sluggishly for another year, they'll just lower the price. It's not like if sales don't pick up....*poof*...the PS3 is gone, and Sony's just going to throw their hands up and forfeit the billions of dollars they've invested into the home console business.

[QUOTE="Socrates88"]Another PS3 is doom thread. We have more analysts in SW create by the minute. Bread_or_Decide

Analysts. Economists. Sytem Wars has it all.

lol don't forget game programmers!

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

[QUOTE="Socrates88"]Another PS3 is doom thread. We have more analysts in SW create by the minute. Socrates88

Analysts. Economists. Sytem Wars has it all.

lol don't forget game programmers!

And hardware experts.

We even get some philosophers.

At worst the PS3 will end up like Nintendo with a heavy dosage of 1st party titles and little 3rd party support. Still, it will be a great system with it's 1st party games. Socrates88

[QUOTE="Socrates88"]Another PS3 is doom thread. We have more analysts in SW create by the minute. Bread_or_Decide

Analysts. Economists. Sytem Wars has it all.

[QUOTE="Socrates88"]At worst the PS3 will end up like Nintendo with a heavy dosage of 1st party titles and little 3rd party support. Still, it will be a great system with it's 1st party games. Nex_Ownage

You mean that Sony has better first party games? Yeah Nintendo can't compare.

I think it'll last until the next gen of consoles comes out. If they don't get their act together, they won't have enough money to make a new one, but I don't think they'll just stop making ps3sproskater40000

You have to understand that Sony will always have money. You can't bring down the biggest electronics company in the world.

[QUOTE="Socrates88"]At worst the PS3 will end up like Nintendo with a heavy dosage of 1st party titles and little 3rd party support. Still, it will be a great system with it's 1st party games. Nex_Ownage

That was fanboyish.

[QUOTE="SkyCastleDan"]

I too have little faith in the Potentialstation 3's ability to survive for more than another year or so. Uncharted, Lair and Heavenly Sword need to pick up the slack before MGS4 and FFXIII are released. If the PS3 can't break 6-7 million units worldwide by the end of this year, Sony will certainly be in trouble. They need a big Christmas like the 360 got last year. Can Uncharted do for the PS3 what Gears of War did for 360? Only time will tell, but I have my doubts....

fuzzysquash

Why does it come down to "survival"? :?

If the PS3 still sells sluggishly for another year, they'll just lower the price.

How the hell you gonna lower the price when they havent even started turning a profit? They are already at a loss with a $600 price tag. You think slashing the price by $100 is gonna help? Was it the Atari Jaguar or the 3DO that had that insane price tag back in like 94?

You have to understand that Sony will always have money. You can't bring down the biggest electronics company in the world.NobuoMusicMaker

Sony may always have money, doesnt mean their gaming division will.. :shock:

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="SkyCastleDan"]

I too have little faith in the Potentialstation 3's ability to survive for more than another year or so. Uncharted, Lair and Heavenly Sword need to pick up the slack before MGS4 and FFXIII are released. If the PS3 can't break 6-7 million units worldwide by the end of this year, Sony will certainly be in trouble. They need a big Christmas like the 360 got last year. Can Uncharted do for the PS3 what Gears of War did for 360? Only time will tell, but I have my doubts....

Magical_Zebra

Why does it come down to "survival"? :?

If the PS3 still sells sluggishly for another year, they'll just lower the price.

How the hell you gonna lower the price when they havent even started turning a profit? They are already at a loss with a $600 price tag. You think slashing the price by $100 is gonna help? Was it the Atari Jaguar or the 3DO that had that insane price tag back in like 94?

"They get there profit from the software" I'm sure you heard this many times.

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="SkyCastleDan"]

I too have little faith in the Potentialstation 3's ability to survive for more than another year or so. Uncharted, Lair and Heavenly Sword need to pick up the slack before MGS4 and FFXIII are released. If the PS3 can't break 6-7 million units worldwide by the end of this year, Sony will certainly be in trouble. They need a big Christmas like the 360 got last year. Can Uncharted do for the PS3 what Gears of War did for 360? Only time will tell, but I have my doubts....

Magical_Zebra

Why does it come down to "survival"? :?

If the PS3 still sells sluggishly for another year, they'll just lower the price.

How the hell you gonna lower the price when they havent even started turning a profit? They are already at a loss with a $600 price tag. You think slashing the price by $100 is gonna help? Was it the Atari Jaguar or the 3DO that had that insane price tag back in like 94?

Sony does not need to start turning a profit on the PS3 before dropping its price.

They just have to constrain the losses such that their marketshare can expand to a sufficient degree so that gains can be recouped in the future.

What this means, of course, is that production costs must be decreased. This is being done by shifting from a 90mm to a 65mm chip, and dropping the Emotion Engine chip and switching the software backwards compatibility.

Thus, Sony does have room to drop the price. And combined with better software as time goes by--yes, it will help tremendously.

And people tend to forget that the PS3 is selling pretty much at the same rate as the 360 was selling at this stage in its lifetime.

And people tend to forget that the PS3 is selling pretty much at the same rate as the 360 was selling at this stage in its lifetime.

fuzzysquash

That's not strictly true. The PS3 is selling at a similar rate to the 360 if you look at total systems sold to this point but if you look at the current rate of sales of the PS3 over the last few months and compare it to how the 360 was selling this time last year it is quite a bit less.

[QUOTE="Nex_Ownage"]

[QUOTE="Socrates88"]At worst the PS3 will end up like Nintendo with a heavy dosage of 1st party titles and little 3rd party support. Still, it will be a great system with it's 1st party games. NobuoMusicMaker

You mean that Sony has better first party games? Yeah Nintendo can't compare.

What part of "Sony isn't half the developer that Nintendo is" you didn't get?

Nintendo re-invented 3D games with SM64, created rumble and introduced analoge sticks...all that during their first "failure".

And on their second? They got 3 goty's and the most criticilally acclaimed game of last gen.

Now during that time, what the hell did sony do? :|

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"][QUOTE="Nex_Ownage"]

[QUOTE="Socrates88"]At worst the PS3 will end up like Nintendo with a heavy dosage of 1st party titles and little 3rd party support. Still, it will be a great system with it's 1st party games. Nex_Ownage

You mean that Sony has better first party games? Yeah Nintendo can't compare.

What part of "Sony isn't half the developer that Nintendo is" you didn't get?

Nintendo re-invented 3D games with SM64, created rumble and introduced analoge stick..all that during their first "failure".

And on their second? They got 3 goty's and the most criticilally acclaimed game of last gen.

Now during that time, what the hell did sony do? :|

[QUOTE="Nex_Ownage"]

[QUOTE="Socrates88"]At worst the PS3 will end up like Nintendo with a heavy dosage of 1st party titles and little 3rd party support. Still, it will be a great system with it's 1st party games. Socrates88

That was fanboyish.

Eh, maybe...

But i'm just sick of hearing of how Sony is suppose to be the next Nintendo just because their system isn't selling..

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

And people tend to forget that the PS3 is selling pretty much at the same rate as the 360 was selling at this stage in its lifetime.

cakeorrdeath

That's not strictly true. The PS3 is selling at a similar rate to the 360 if you look at total systems sold to this point but if you look at the current rate of sales of the PS3 over the last few months and compare it to how the 360 was selling this time last year it is quite a bit less.

If this graph is accurate, their sales rates are very similar.

Though I concede that there has been a sharp decline in sales since launch.

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

And people tend to forget that the PS3 is selling pretty much at the same rate as the 360 was selling at this stage in its lifetime.

cakeorrdeath

That's not strictly true. The PS3 is selling at a similar rate to the 360 if you look at total systems sold to this point but if you look at the current rate of sales of the PS3 over the last few months and compare it to how the 360 was selling this time last year it is quite a bit less.

That sounds like a case of Sony's average is their worst.

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

And people tend to forget that the PS3 is selling pretty much at the same rate as the 360 was selling at this stage in its lifetime.

fuzzysquash

That's not strictly true. The PS3 is selling at a similar rate to the 360 if you look at total systems sold to this point but if you look at the current rate of sales of the PS3 over the last few months and compare it to how the 360 was selling this time last year it is quite a bit less.

If this graph is accurate, their sales rates are very similar.

Though I concede that there has been a sharp decline in sales since launch.

To me it looks like a much shallower gradient on the PS3s graph. But lets look at what we know:

US NPD:

April07 80k for PS3

May 07 going to be less than 100k for PS3

April06 295k for 360

May 06 221k for 360

Japan Media Create

around 40k per month in April and May 07

around 8k per month in April and May 06

Euro known figures

March 23rd-26th 165k units sold in two days.

End of March, nearly 600k sold through to consumer.

April 17th nearly 800k total sold through. (Link)

End of May, 1 million units reached.

So, between April 17th and the end of March that's about 200k units and 66-67k units per week. From April 17th to the end of May that's about 6 weeks to generate another 200k units sold, averaging 33k units per week.

[QUOTE="Socrates88"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

[QUOTE="Socrates88"]Another PS3 is doom thread. We have more analysts in SW create by the minute. Danm_999

Analysts. Economists. Sytem Wars has it all.

lol don't forget game programmers!

And hardware experts.

We even get some philosophers.

LOL!!!so true...

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="SkyCastleDan"]

I too have little faith in the Potentialstation 3's ability to survive for more than another year or so. Uncharted, Lair and Heavenly Sword need to pick up the slack before MGS4 and FFXIII are released. If the PS3 can't break 6-7 million units worldwide by the end of this year, Sony will certainly be in trouble. They need a big Christmas like the 360 got last year. Can Uncharted do for the PS3 what Gears of War did for 360? Only time will tell, but I have my doubts....

Magical_Zebra

Why does it come down to "survival"? :?

If the PS3 still sells sluggishly for another year, they'll just lower the price.

How the hell you gonna lower the price when they havent even started turning a profit? They are already at a loss with a $600 price tag. You think slashing the price by $100 is gonna help? Was it the Atari Jaguar or the 3DO that had that insane price tag back in like 94?

Muahahaha Doomesday has begun!!!

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="SkyCastleDan"]

I too have little faith in the Potentialstation 3's ability to survive for more than another year or so. Uncharted, Lair and Heavenly Sword need to pick up the slack before MGS4 and FFXIII are released. If the PS3 can't break 6-7 million units worldwide by the end of this year, Sony will certainly be in trouble. They need a big Christmas like the 360 got last year. Can Uncharted do for the PS3 what Gears of War did for 360? Only time will tell, but I have my doubts....

Carmilla31

Why does it come down to "survival"? :?

If the PS3 still sells sluggishly for another year, they'll just lower the price.

How the hell you gonna lower the price when they havent even started turning a profit? They are already at a loss with a $600 price tag. You think slashing the price by $100 is gonna help? Was it the Atari Jaguar or the 3DO that had that insane price tag back in like 94?

If I recall correctly, it didnt make through a full year.

The only thing that will bring Sony from the depths:

Shadow of the Colossus 2

[QUOTE="Socrates88"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

[QUOTE="Socrates88"]Another PS3 is doom thread. We have more analysts in SW create by the minute. Danm_999

Analysts. Economists. Sytem Wars has it all.

lol don't forget game programmers!

And hardware experts.

We even get some philosophers.

"What are you? Some kind of philosiphizer?" - White Goodman

Doomsday Clock FTW!ReverseCycology