Stating the obvious - KoA: Reckoning will CRUSH Skyrim

It's not hard to believe if you think about it. KoA has the size and depth of an Elder Scrolls game, an infinitely better combat system (yeah, not saying much but still), and, according to IGN, it's not riddled with bugs and glitches like the former mentioned franchise. Now I don't have anything against Skyrim personaly, but I am growing more and more displeased as it continues to become more and more unplayable. KoA is delivering what I wanted in Skyrim, with the added bonus of a badass combat system and best of all, it's looking to be a FINISHED product. Take notes Bethesda, you hacks.

DREAM. ON.

Can you still not jump in KoA?

DREAM. ON.

waltefmoney

Amalur > Betarim.

Amalur > Betarim.

ChubbyGuy40

Godrim will triumph. We both know it.

They are releasing mod tools for KoA? because that was pretty much the only reason I bought Skyrim for and that is the main purpose, in my opinion, of an Elder Scrolls game.ShadowDeathX

Why pay $60 when you could just download and figure out UDK?

Godrim will triumph. We both know it.

waltefmoney

Betarim will fall before the might of Amalur. Sorry, but I'm more likely to get a finished game with Amalur and combat that doesn't suck.

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]They are releasing mod tools for KoA? because that was pretty much the only reason I bought Skyrim for and that is the main purpose, in my opinion, of an Elder Scrolls game.ChubbyGuy40

Why pay $60 when you could just download and figure out UDK?

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Godrim will triumph. We both know it.

ChubbyGuy40

Betarim will fall before the might of Amalur. Sorry, but I'm more likely to get a finished game with Amalur and combat that doesn't suck.

We need to make use of the new SW game for this. A bet, perhaps?

We need to make use of the new SW game for this. A bet, perhaps?

waltefmoney

Soul Calibur 5 = Skyward Sword so uh...hell no. I know damn well it won't score 9.5 here. There's no enough broken quests and disappearing NPCs for that to happen.

Soul Calibur 5 = Skyward Sword so uh...hell no. I know damn well it won't score 9.5 here. There's no enough broken quests and disappearing NPCs for that to happen.

ChubbyGuy40

We can bet Metacritic or GameRankings if you like.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Godrim will triumph. We both know it.

ChubbyGuy40

Betarim will fall before the might of Amalur. Sorry, but I'm more likely to get a finished game with Amalur and combat that doesn't suck.

My feelings exactly. I loved Skyrim at first. It was even starting to impress me more than Dark Souls which was my GOTY back in 2011. Around 30 hours though the load times started getting longer, frame rate drops and freezing started to become a normality, and the rest was history. Bethesda are ****ing con-men as far as I'm concerned.

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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Godrim will triumph. We both know it.

waltefmoney

Betarim will fall before the might of Amalur. Sorry, but I'm more likely to get a finished game with Amalur and combat that doesn't suck.

We need to make use of the new SW game for this. A bet, perhaps?

Sadly I can't see KoA outscoring Skyrim. The hype machine just aint a turnin.

We can bet Metacritic or GameRankings if you like.

waltefmoney

Amalur will score above 85 on Metacritic.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

We can bet Metacritic or GameRankings if you like.

ChubbyGuy40

Amalur will score above 85 on Metacritic.

Make that a 90 and you've got a bet.

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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Godrim will triumph. We both know it.

Master_ShakeXXX

Betarim will fall before the might of Amalur. Sorry, but I'm more likely to get a finished game with Amalur and combat that doesn't suck.

My feelings exactly. I loved Skyrim at first. It was even starting to impress me more than Dark Souls which was my GOTY back in 2011. Around 30 hours though the load times started getting longer, frame rate drops and freezing started to become a normality, and the rest was history. Bethesda are ****ing con-men as far as I'm concerned.

Now the question is KoA on PC or console??ShoTTyMcNaDeS

LOL The flop KoA will get a fraction of Skyrims sales. The demo just plain sucked. :lol:

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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Betarim will fall before the might of Amalur. Sorry, but I'm more likely to get a finished game with Amalur and combat that doesn't suck.

ShadowDeathX

My feelings exactly. I loved Skyrim at first. It was even starting to impress me more than Dark Souls which was my GOTY back in 2011. Around 30 hours though the load times started getting longer, frame rate drops and freezing started to become a normality, and the rest was history. Bethesda are ****ing con-men as far as I'm concerned.

I don't think it's asking too much of Beth to release a playable game on consoles. These Big Huge Game guys seemed to have no problem doing that and they don't have anywhere near as many resourses at their disposal as Beth does.

What's KOA?

What's KOA?

kraken2109

Kingdoms of Amalur.

LOL The flop KoA will get a fraction of Skyrims sales. The demo just plain sucked. :lol:

GrannyGoat

This topic isn't about playing sales, broski :P

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LOL The flop KoA will get a fraction of Skyrims sales. The demo just plain sucked. :lol:

Master_ShakeXXX

This topic isn't about playing sales, broski :P

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="GrannyGoat"]

LOL The flop KoA will get a fraction of Skyrims sales. The demo just plain sucked. :lol:

GrannyGoat

This topic isn't about playing sales, broski :P

Yet it'll still be the far superior game. Sorry we don't immediately get on our knees just because it's Bugesda.

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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

This topic isn't about playing sales, broski :P

ChubbyGuy40

Yet it'll still be the far superior game. Sorry we don't immediately get on our knees just because it's Bugesda.

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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

This topic isn't about playing sales, broski :P

ChubbyGuy40

Yet it'll still be the far superior game. Sorry we don't immediately get on our knees just because it's Bugesda.

Interesting, so by saying you agree it'll get less sales, lower reviews, and less people liking it you say that people buy things they don't want and give high scores to things they don't like.

Interesting indeed.....

I'm not on my knees. The demo was funny. The story, the "deep combat", etc...it's a flop incoming. At least betheseda put their heart into the game, whether you liked it or not. KoA is just lazy and boring.

GrannyGoat

I played the demo for 10 minutes, I just didn't like it for some reason. It felt off. The artstyle making me sick didn't help either.

I'm not on my knees. The demo was funny. The story, the "deep combat", etc...it's a flop incoming. At least betheseda put their heart into the game, whether you liked it or not. KoA is just lazy and boring.

GrannyGoat

Dat tutorial.

Put their hearts? No wonder they couldn't get the game past alpha stage.

KoA is just lazy and boring? I didn't know you already played and beat the game already.

Interesting, so by saying you agree it'll get less sales, lower reviews, and less people liking it you say that people buy things they don't want and give high scores to things they don't like.

Interesting indeed.....

Jaysonguy

Less sales? Yes. New IP and people won't bend over willingly despite all the fame certain people have that work on this title.. Lower reviews? Possibly. It's a new IP and not everything ends up like Rocksteady. Less people liking it? Quite possibly. It doesn't seem catered to a wide audience but rather a more select and focused group.

Nice to see you around JaysonGuy. GameSpot needed their old idiot back.

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I'm not on my knees. The demo was funny. The story, the "deep combat", etc...it's a flop incoming. At least betheseda put their heart into the game, whether you liked it or not. KoA is just lazy and boring.

ChubbyGuy40

Dat tutorial.

Put their hearts? No wonder they couldn't get the game past alpha stage.

KoA is just lazy and boring? I didn't know you already played and beat the game already.

I haven't played the full game, and I probably won't because the demo was LAZy, BORING, and TRITE. The story was lazy and boring from the get go. I dont' know how anyone can play 2 minutes of Skyrim and say it's not better than the demo or KoA. They're just on different levels.

GrannyGoat

Amazing how hard it is for people to comprehend that this was the tutorial section.

This isn't Skyrim. You aren't going to figure out the entire damn story in 5 minutes. Skyrim has nothing on Amalur.

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[QUOTE="GrannyGoat"]

I'm not on my knees. The demo was funny. The story, the "deep combat", etc...it's a flop incoming. At least betheseda put their heart into the game, whether you liked it or not. KoA is just lazy and boring.

GrannyGoat

Dat tutorial.

Put their hearts? No wonder they couldn't get the game past alpha stage.

KoA is just lazy and boring? I didn't know you already played and beat the game already.

The demo wasn't made by the developers, and they have expressed their displeasure with it.

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I haven't played the full game, and I probably won't because the demo was LAZy, BORING, and TRITE. The story was lazy and boring from the get go. I dont' know how anyone can play 2 minutes of Skyrim and say it's not better than the demo or KoA. They're just on different levels.

ChubbyGuy40

Amazing how hard it is for people to comprehend that this was the tutorial section.

This isn't Skyrim. You aren't going to figure out the entire damn story in 5 minutes. Skyrim has nothing on Amalur.

Yeah ok. :roll: It was so massive how I spammed my magic spells on every enemy and they died easily..right from the get go. Deep combat indeed. :roll:

GrannyGoat

Huh, that's exactly what happened in Skyrim. We're talking about Amalur here.

I played the demo, idk why everyone is so excited about the combat unless it gets much much better later on. It felt like God of War for dummies.WithoutGraceXII

It's more fluid and responsive than 99% of other RPG combat systems out there. I think that's reason enough to be excited about it.

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Yeah ok. :roll: It was so massive how I spammed my magic spells on every enemy and they died easily..right from the get go. Deep combat indeed. :roll:

ChubbyGuy40

Huh, that's exactly what happened in Skyrim. We're talking about Amalur here.

Nah in Skyrim I got devoured by some trolls and bears early on. In Amular I killed everyone easily like a super god.

GrannyGoat

That's because you suck. If you died in Skyrim it was because of either incredibly stupid level scaling that exists for no god-damned reason, or you forgot to pause. Besides that, you have no reason to die at all.

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Nah in Skyrim I got devoured by some trolls and bears early on. In Amular I killed everyone easily like a super god.

ChubbyGuy40

That's because you suck. If you died in Skyrim it was because of either incredibly stupid level scaling that exists for no god-damned reason, or you forgot to pause. Besides that, you have no reason to die at all.

Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning will go down as the surprise game of the year and be in the running for GOTY.Spartan070

Risen 2 will rape the living sh*t out of it.

Riiiiiiiiiiiight. Because a level 1 character in skyrim is expected to knock down a TROLL or a SNOW LION right from the get go? Get real and give bethesda some credit.

GrannyGoat

Level scaling. You could do it. Bethesda deserves no credit. The combat is on par with Super Mario 3D Land ffs. As long as you press something you won't die. 3 games and they still can't figure out some decent combat.

Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning will go down as the surprise game of the year and be in the running for GOTY.Spartan070

From an article written by the IGN reviewer based on his extensive time with the game:

"Indeed, I've begun to realize the importance of strategy as I wage battle. The beginning of the game lulls you into a false sense of security, and Reckoning begins to feel like a button-masher. But it isn't. When you start encountering enemies that are more difficult, more intelligent and more aggressive than ones very early in the game, you'll start to understand the utmost importance of using your shield and the parry button."

"Likewise, the use of items such as potions (called "consumables") also carries tactical weight. The game quickly emphasizes the use of these items rather than stockpiling them. And I like that a lot when you consider how many RPGs over time give you all manner of items that are useless. Reckoning certainly has its own share of dubious items, but I find myself working the use of many items into the game's greater strategy more often than in the vast majority of RPGs that I've played."

This is just as I figured and have been saying.

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning will go down as the surprise game of the year and be in the running for GOTY.waltefmoney

Risen 2 will rape the living sh*t out of it.