Stating the obvious - KoA: Reckoning will CRUSH Skyrim

awwwww master shake has a unique opinion, that's cute...

lazerface216

My opinions are always cutting edge and awesome. That's why I'm here. To direct your guys' attention to amazing god tier games that would otherwise go unnoticed.

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

awwwww master shake has a unique opinion, that's cute...

Master_ShakeXXX

My opinions are always cutting edge and awesome. That's why I'm here. To direct your guys' attention to amazing god tier games that would otherwise go unnoticed.

Please, I'm sure the blazing 9.5 on Dark Souls would not go unnoticed.

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

awwwww master shake has a unique opinion, that's cute...

Master_ShakeXXX

My opinions are always cutting edge and awesome. That's why I'm here. To direct your guys' attention to amazing god tier games that would otherwise go unnoticed.

lol how about your sig? what is that here for? to annoy the sh*t out of me?

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

awwwww master shake has a unique opinion, that's cute...

lazerface216

My opinions are always cutting edge and awesome. That's why I'm here. To direct your guys' attention to amazing god tier games that would otherwise go unnoticed.

lol how about your sig? what is that here for? to annoy the sh*t out of me?

Eye candy. I probably should revert back to my old sig though. People seemed to respond to it better. It was the gorgeous Sarah Carter so how could they not right.

any combat is better then skyrims /trollface

anything is better than Skyrim at this point. only mods can save such an eyesore.broeing

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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

My opinions are always cutting edge and awesome. That's why I'm here. To direct your guys' attention to amazing god tier games that would otherwise go unnoticed.

Master_ShakeXXX

lol how about your sig? what is that here for? to annoy the sh*t out of me?

Eye candy. I probably should revert back to my old sig though. People seemed to respond to it better. It was the gorgeous Sarah Carter so how could they not right.

yeah there's really no need to provide us system warriors with eye candy, i'm pretty sure most of us can attain that ourselves. plus it's just a gif of a hot broad making a dumb face over and over and over and over again......god it drives me nuts.

Nope. KoA will never have the same sense of mystery and exploration that skyrim has. after playing the demo, KoA just seems like a linear hack and slash with RPG elements.

Nope. KoA will never have the same sense of mystery and exploration that skyrim has. after playing the demo, KoA just seems like a linear hack and slash with RPG elements.

taterfrickintot

Dude, it's a tiny demo for a huge open world RPG. Of course it's gonna come off as shallow. What do you think a demo for Skyrim would look like? It would be even lamer than KoA's demo.

[QUOTE="taterfrickintot"]

Nope. KoA will never have the same sense of mystery and exploration that skyrim has. after playing the demo, KoA just seems like a linear hack and slash with RPG elements.

Master_ShakeXXX

Dude, it's a tiny demo for a huge open world RPG. Of course it's gonna come off as shallow. What do you think a demo for Skyrim would look like? It would be even lamer than KoA's demo.

KoA, imo, played like a suckier version of Dragon Age 2 (and we all know how much that game was hated). Why are people giving KoA a pass?

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="taterfrickintot"]

Nope. KoA will never have the same sense of mystery and exploration that skyrim has. after playing the demo, KoA just seems like a linear hack and slash with RPG elements.

KC_Hokie

Dude, it's a tiny demo for a huge open world RPG. Of course it's gonna come off as shallow. What do you think a demo for Skyrim would look like? It would be even lamer than KoA's demo.

Skyrim's opening was beyond crap. Atleast the beginning of KoA throws you right into the action, as opposed to sitting through boring scripted garbage.

Reckoning was the most generic piece of **** fantasy game I have ever played, nothing but typical and bad fantasy tropes overused. The game lacks substance, and it lacks identity. It tries to be a jack of all trades by including elements from other popular RPGs but a jack of all trades is a master of none. Demo was awful and boring. People are either trolling or delusional.

AiurProtoss

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Dude, it's a tiny demo for a huge open world RPG. Of course it's gonna come off as shallow. What do you think a demo for Skyrim would look like? It would be even lamer than KoA's demo.

Master_ShakeXXX

Skyrim's opening was beyond crap. Atleast the beginning of KoA throws you right into the action, as opposed to sitting through boring scripted garbage.

Nope. KoA will never have the same sense of mystery and exploration that skyrim has. after playing the demo, KoA just seems like a linear hack and slash with RPG elements.

taterfrickintot

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Dude, it's a tiny demo for a huge open world RPG. Of course it's gonna come off as shallow. What do you think a demo for Skyrim would look like? It would be even lamer than KoA's demo.

Master_ShakeXXX

Skyrim's opening was beyond crap. Atleast the beginning of KoA throws you right into the action, as opposed to sitting through boring scripted garbage.

...and the beginning of KoA isn't scripted?

KoA, imo, played like a suckier version of Dragon Age 2 (and we all know how much that game was hated). Why are people giving KoA a pass?

GrannyGoat

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]I couldn't disagree more. Playing the first twenty minutes of Skyrim was far better than the KoA demo. KC_Hokie

Skyrim's opening was beyond crap. Atleast the beginning of KoA throws you right into the action, as opposed to sitting through boring scripted garbage.

[QUOTE="GrannyGoat"]

KoA, imo, played like a suckier version of Dragon Age 2 (and we all know how much that game was hated). Why are people giving KoA a pass?

Spartan070

[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="GrannyGoat"]

KoA, imo, played like a suckier version of Dragon Age 2 (and we all know how much that game was hated). Why are people giving KoA a pass?

heretrix

Everything 8-9 so far, maybe not GOTG but not the tripe that many here on SW are prematurely portraying it as.

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[QUOTE="Spartan070"] Why are people destroying it based on a beta-level demo when everyone who has played the full version has prasied it? At least we've already played DOAII ourselves to make a fair judgement...Spartan070

I actually like what I've played so far, in fact if it wasn't an EA game I'd go out and get it for full price, but they suck so whatever. That said, I'm really not seeing what makes KOA vastly better than Skyrim. I know people have their complaints about Skyrim and they are warranted, but I think people are getting ahead of themselves. I think there are certain aspects of the combat in KOA that are better, but I prefer Skyrims simplicity and ranged combat (bows).

Ok, that's vastly different from everyone then is it not?

I actually like what I've played so far, in fact if it wasn't an EA game I'd go out and get it for full price, but they suck so whatever. That said, I'm really not seeing what makes KOA vastly better than Skyrim. I know people have their complaints about Skyrim and they are warranted, but I think people are getting ahead of themselves. I think there are certain aspects of the combat in KOA that are better, but I prefer Skyrims simplicity and ranged combat (bows).

heretrix

Well I did say "everyone who has played a full version", not just "everyone period." :P

That being said, I never said the game as a whole will suplant Skyrim, I just think it's getting a massive amount of undo critisism based solely on a demo. Also that being said, the bow-combat in KoA seems to be far too shallow, but it should flesh out should you choose to put points into the Rougue skill tree

I voted Dark Souls for life simply because it looks better than Amular and Skyrim.... combined.

does it make anyone else laugh when you see "mer! skyrim broken :cry: bethesda bad! whaaa! :cry: lazy devs! boo hoo! we mad! :evil:" from the ps3 dudes?

i can't lie, i get a kick out of it every time. :lol:

anyway as far as topic goes i can't wait to play koa and see for myself if they can pull off an upset on the GOTG.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Skyrim's opening was beyond crap. Atleast the beginning of KoA throws you right into the action, as opposed to sitting through boring scripted garbage.

heretrix

It sure seemed longer than 5 minutes. That lame wagon ride alone had to be 5 minutes.

Then you have the character creation screen, followed by the execution scene. Cut to dragon attack. Proceed to follow NPC's telling you where to go for 20 agonizing minutes. Skyrim's opening was such a drag.

KoA's actually felt necessary. It gave you the low down on who you are and why you're in your current predicament, it spends some time introducing you to the nice combat mechanics, then it boots you out the door and into the open world knowing everything you need to know. Skyrim could have just as easily started in the middle of the dragon fight and it wouldn't have made a damn bit of difference.

Skyrim could have just as easily started in the middle of the dragon fight and it wouldn't have made a damn bit of difference.

Master_ShakeXXX

Skyrim's opening was long enough to set the tone then they let you loose after the dragon attack. Let's not even count the character creation because that is a long as you make it.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Did you buy the PS3 version of Skyrim, Shake?Master_ShakeXXX

Yup. Got scamboozled to all hell.

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Skyrim could have just as easily started in the middle of the dragon fight and it wouldn't have made a damn bit of difference.

heretrix

Skyrim's opening was long enough to set the tone then they let you loose after the dragon attack. Let's not even count the character creation because that is a long as you make it.

Explain the significance of the wagon ride and drawn out execution scene. There wasn't any. Stepping out into the world for the first time was enough to set the tone. The rest of it, save for the dragon attack, was unnecessary. And my attention span has nothing to do with it.

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Did you buy the PS3 version of Skyrim, Shake?Stevo_the_gamer

Yup. Got scamboozled to all hell.

Not knowingly, since critics claimed it was just as good as the superior versions at release.

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[QUOTE="GrannyGoat"]

I'm not on my knees. The demo was funny. The story, the "deep combat", etc...it's a flop incoming. At least betheseda put their heart into the game, whether you liked it or not. KoA is just lazy and boring.

GrannyGoat

Dat tutorial.

Put their hearts? No wonder they couldn't get the game past alpha stage.

KoA is just lazy and boring? I didn't know you already played and beat the game already.

Wow TC, that's bravery. Dark Souls for life anyway.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Yup. Got scamboozled to all hell.

Master_ShakeXXX

Not knowingly, since critics claimed it was just as good as the superior versions at release.

Wow TC, that's bravery. Dark Souls for life anyway.

tjricardo089

Ha, I doesnt afraid of nothin.

Explain the significance of the wagon ride and drawn out execution scene. There wasn't any. Stepping out into the world for the first time was enough to set the tone. The rest of it, save for the dragon attack, was unnecessary. And my attention span has nothing to do with it.

Master_ShakeXXX

Slight spoiler ahead

Disregarding the rest of the debate, this is terrible criticism. Someone could just as easily say KoA could start in the middle of the conversation with the little gnome profeessor and completely disregarded all the rest of the opening. Obviously, the opening session in both games provides a bit of exposition an a counterpoint the high action the follows. If you'll say Skyrim's cart ride was unnecessary, then the same should be said of the tiresome wading through the opening cave/corridor dungeon in KoA.

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Serves you right for knowingly buying the inferior version.GrannyGoat

Not knowingly, since critics claimed it was just as good as the superior versions at release.

That wasn't exactly wide spread news. And it didn't help that idiots like IGN scored it the same as the other versions, only to go back on their word and start saying it's vastly inferior a ****ing month after everyone bought it.

1. What is "KoA"
2. How do you "CRUSH" a Game of the Year winning title?

People are either trolling or delusional.

AiurProtoss

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Explain the significance of the wagon ride and drawn out execution scene. There wasn't any. Stepping out into the world for the first time was enough to set the tone. The rest of it, save for the dragon attack, was unnecessary. And my attention span has nothing to do with it.

Kickinurass

Slight spoiler ahead

Disregarding the rest of the debate, this is terrible criticism. Someone could just as easily say KoA could start in the middle of the conversation with the little gnome profeessor and completely disregarded all the rest of the opening. Obviously, the opening session in both games provides a bit of exposition an a counterpoint the high action the follows. If you'll say Skyrim's cart ride was unnecessary, then the same should be said of the tiresome wading through the opening cave/corridor dungeon in KoA.

The opening of KoA explained your character's existence and purpose, which is pretty crucial. Aside from the whole "omg, the dragon's are back!" in Skyrim's opening, the rest of it just came off as needless filler to me. It didn't help that the dialogue was atrocious, as somebody above already pointed out. But I agree it's a minute complaint. The beginning was the lowpoint of Skyrim and it obviously got better.

It's not hard to believe if you think about it. KoA has the size and depth of an Elder Scrolls game, an infinitely better combat system (yeah, not saying much but still), and, according to IGN, it's not riddled with bugs and glitches like the former mentioned franchise. Now I don't have anything against Skyrim personaly, but I am growing more and more displeased as it continues to become more and more unplayable. KoA is delivering what I wanted in Skyrim, with the added bonus of a badass combat system and best of all, it's looking to be a FINISHED product. Take notes Bethesda, you hacks.

Master_ShakeXXX

why are cows always trying to find a way to discredit this great game? is it because their version is broken as hell...thats kind of petty as ****. get an Xbox n play it right if not a pc.

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

It's not hard to believe if you think about it. KoA has the size and depth of an Elder Scrolls game, an infinitely better combat system (yeah, not saying much but still), and, according to IGN, it's not riddled with bugs and glitches like the former mentioned franchise. Now I don't have anything against Skyrim personaly, but I am growing more and more displeased as it continues to become more and more unplayable. KoA is delivering what I wanted in Skyrim, with the added bonus of a badass combat system and best of all, it's looking to be a FINISHED product. Take notes Bethesda, you hacks.

woodenfork21

why are cows always trying to find a way to discredit this great game? is it because their version is broken as hell...thats kind of petty as ****. get an Xbox n play it right if not a pc.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Godrim will triumph. We both know it.

Master_ShakeXXX

Betarim will fall before the might of Amalur. Sorry, but I'm more likely to get a finished game with Amalur and combat that doesn't suck.

My feelings exactly. I loved Skyrim at first. It was even starting to impress me more than Dark Souls which was my GOTY back in 2011. Around 30 hours though the load times started getting longer, frame rate drops and freezing started to become a normality, and the rest was history. Bethesda are ****ing con-men as far as I'm concerned.

If you love dark souls why would you start getting annoyed at framerate drops?

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Betarim will fall before the might of Amalur. Sorry, but I'm more likely to get a finished game with Amalur and combat that doesn't suck.

GD1551

My feelings exactly. I loved Skyrim at first. It was even starting to impress me more than Dark Souls which was my GOTY back in 2011. Around 30 hours though the load times started getting longer, frame rate drops and freezing started to become a normality, and the rest was history. Bethesda are ****ing con-men as far as I'm concerned.

If you love dark souls why would you start getting annoyed at framerate drops?

There was only a few confined areas in Dark Souls that had bad framerate drops. After playing for so many hours the framerate in Skyrim drops to unplayable levels and does so consistently no matter where you're at. It's not even comparable.

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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

It's not hard to believe if you think about it. KoA has the size and depth of an Elder Scrolls game, an infinitely better combat system (yeah, not saying much but still), and, according to IGN, it's not riddled with bugs and glitches like the former mentioned franchise. Now I don't have anything against Skyrim personaly, but I am growing more and more displeased as it continues to become more and more unplayable. KoA is delivering what I wanted in Skyrim, with the added bonus of a badass combat system and best of all, it's looking to be a FINISHED product. Take notes Bethesda, you hacks.

GrannyGoat

why are cows always trying to find a way to discredit this great game? is it because their version is broken as hell...thats kind of petty as ****. get an Xbox n play it right if not a pc.

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

It's not hard to believe if you think about it. KoA has the size and depth of an Elder Scrolls game,

heretrix

:|:lol:

Where in the hell did you hear that from? IGN?

:lol:

KoA's world is being made as A PART OF an MMO called 'Copernicus' (which is working title), RA salvatore and his team have created a game with a 10,000 year history, and that's not just timeline....

This will be like EA's Metal of Honor vs CoD. We know the results to that attempt.

[QUOTE="GrannyGoat"]

[QUOTE="woodenfork21"]

why are cows always trying to find a way to discredit this great game? is it because their version is broken as hell...thats kind of petty as ****. get an Xbox n play it right if not a pc.

woodenfork21

Don't have one. Even though I'm a proud PS3 only owner, I don't think that makes me a cow. I don't cream my pants to every PS3 exclusive that gets announced and hype it to the high heavens, ya see.

This will be like EA's Metal of Honor vs CoD. We know the results to that attempt.

Mr_BillGates

I've never heard of this meTal of honor game you speak of.

this is more like Halo versus Battlefield.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Yup. Got scamboozled to all hell.

Master_ShakeXXX

Not knowingly, since critics claimed it was just as good as the superior versions at release.