steam fanboyism

I have been seeing many comments about bf3 saying " no steam no buy" why in the hell wont you buy a game because you cant get it in one store? I like best buy but i will go els where to buy my games. Why does bf3 HAVE to be on steam? Steam is going to end up with a monoploy which never ends well for the consumers. Why so much loyalty to a store?

People who only buy on steam are stupid. People who think steam sucks are stupid. People who think other DD services are stupid, are stupid. I mean its a great service but there are plenty of others to use.kris9031998

Well... because Steam > Origin? It's more about avoiding Origin than loving Steam so much. That aside, Steam is fantstic and it's nice to have one centrum for all games ^^

I don´t buy all my games on steam,I buy retail,GoG,steam and other places. Couldn´t care less if B3 is on steam or not,I´m not gonna buy it on origin though.

You on the other hand,have some really big hate for steam my friend,as it is apparent in almost every post you make about it. heck,you even prefer Onlive to steam lol.

I think that it's mostly due to people not wanting to use EA's DD service origin because it's terrible. At least it was for the alpha. Who knows, maybe that will change before the game launches, but right now, Steam is 1000 times better. Physical copies are always there, but for some Steam is the best option and it sucks that they won't make it available for those who prefer that service.

I don´t buy all my games on steam,I buy retail,GoG,steam and other places. Couldn´t care less if B3 is on steam or not,I´m not gonna buy it on origin though.

You on the other hand,have some really big hate for steam my friend,as it is apparent in almost every post you make about it. heck,you even prefer Onlive to steam lol.

Arach666

i have a hate for digital games and monopoly's its nothing personal.

Onlive and steam are not even close to being in the same boat onlive is much different its gaming on demand.

I think that it's mostly due to people not wanting to use EA's DD service origin because it's terrible. At least it was for the alpha. Who knows, maybe that will change before the game launches, but right now, Steam is 1000 times better. Physical copies are always there, but for some Steam is the best option and it sucks that they won't make it available for those who prefer that service.

tempest91

It just came out so calling it bad is unfair. Most of these guys are just fan boys to valve. The game will play the same so why does it matter where you get it?

[QUOTE="kris9031998"]People who only buy on steam are stupid. People who think steam sucks are stupid. People who think other DD services are stupid, are stupid. I mean its a great service but there are plenty of others to use.joel_c17

PC gamers that avoid any DD service, for any reason other than the fact that prices are deemed too high for certain games at certain times, are stupid. i love valve to death (certified valve fanboy. what up, bra?), but getting dead space 2 and medal of honor for free with BF3 was a great deal. BF3 itself seems like a great deal. avoiding origin for any reason is just dumb, because all you are doing is missing out on great games. meanwhile, your boycott of origin isn't really going to do anything to EA but make them avoid the PC platform (and i doubt your boycott will be even remotely successful. lawl)yellosnolvr

good post i agree

[QUOTE="kris9031998"]People who only buy on steam are stupid. People who think steam sucks are stupid. People who think other DD services are stupid, are stupid. I mean its a great service but there are plenty of others to use.joel_c17

The downside I can imagine is that Steam updates games automatically but even still it isn't much of an inconvenience to update games myself

i have a hate for digital games and monopoly's its nothing personal.

Onlive and steam are not even close to being in the same boat onlive is much different its gaming on demand.

dontshackzmii

And how anyone can say OnLive is better than Steam is beyond me. At least with Steam you own the games, can play offline and have the option to backup your purchases to DvD. Onlive just gives you an inferior product for essentially the same price (cost of computer parts excluded)...

I don't care about whether a game uses steam or not. What I do care about is having to install another stupid game client on my computer. I already have games for windows live and steam, I don't need a third app in my system tray.

What if I buy an ea game through steam that runs on games for windows live but requires me to be logged into origin to play multiplayer or something?

I don't need to be cluster ****** by 3 different programs to play a game.

People who only buy on steam are ****. People who think steam sucks are ****. People who think other DD services are stupid, are ****. I mean its a great service but there are plenty of others to use.kris9031998

Using these things as DD services is great. But there's the problem of forcing stuff like Steam and Origin into physical retail copies. I take issue with that as I view that action as a form of DRM.

The store is great. I love having all my purchases in one area (not counting "add non-Steam game"). That being said, my purchases aren't limited to Steam.

Well it sucks that I won't have Steam Works for Battlefield 3 while I have it for Bad company 2 and Battlefield 2, but at least I Raptr.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]it's not as much "not being on sale on steam" as it is "not being on my steam library, where i can access all my games, and not having support for steam in-game, thus keeping me from chatting with friends, checking the internet, steam achievements, among other features. not that i'm not getting it, i already have it pre-purchased, but there are very good reasons to be mad at this.Slashkice

Technically you can get most of those things to work just by adding the game as a shortcut to Steam. It's mostly a matter of principle. While EA are acting like morons, and Origin is just a poor service at the moment, it's not like it's GFWL where the service you're forced to use can randomly delete your save files.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]it's not as much "not being on sale on steam" as it is "not being on my steam library, where i can access all my games, and not having support for steam in-game, thus keeping me from chatting with friends, checking the internet, steam achievements, among other features. not that i'm not getting it, i already have it pre-purchased, but there are very good reasons to be mad at this.Slashkice

Technically you can get most of those things to work just by adding the game as a shortcut to Steam. It's mostly a matter of principle. While EA are acting like morons, and Origin is just a poor service at the moment, it's not like it's GFWL where the service you're forced to use can randomly delete your save files.

[QUOTE="tempest91"]

I think that it's mostly due to people not wanting to use EA's DD service origin because it's terrible. At least it was for the alpha. Who knows, maybe that will change before the game launches, but right now, Steam is 1000 times better. Physical copies are always there, but for some Steam is the best option and it sucks that they won't make it available for those who prefer that service.

dontshackzmii

It just came out so calling it bad is unfair. Most of these guys are just fan boys to valve. The game will play the same so why does it matter where you get it?

It's totally fair to judge a new service. It stinks, that's the end of the story. Will it get better? Maybe, but until then I can judge it by the merit that I think it deserves. And to answer you other question, some people don't have easy access to physical copies (mostly speaking about PC) depending on where they live or simply prefer DD and Steam is head and shoulders above any service out there. Why is it automatically fanboyism to prefer one service over another?

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As for the topic, I think they're just overreacting and if it's a good game they will buy it.

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"] Steam Direct 2 Drive Green Man Gaming GamersGate Impluse GoG Amazon Digital Origin Ubisoft Store Capcom Store Best Buy Digital Gamestop Digitalcain006

As for the topic, I think they're just overreacting and if it's a good game they will buy it.

yup PC fanboys..or Steam Fanboys are the worst when it comes to protesting a game

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]Except BF3 is launched through the battlelog website....steam shortcut wouldnt work, as there isnt an ingame main menu or browser for serversSlashkice

Wow, seriously? Nevermind then.

or you know, just make a short-cut of your top played games on your desktop, and problem solved

It just came out so calling it bad is unfair. Most of these guys are just fan boys to valve. The game will play the same so why does it matter where you get it?

dontshackzmii

Well Steam would be better then battlelog and Origin so I would prefer it but I don't get why someone would 100% pass on a game because not having Steam.

it's not as much "not being on sale on steam" as it is "not being on my steam library, where i can access all my games, and not having support for steam in-game, thus keeping me from chatting with friends, checking the internet, steam achievements, among other features.BrunoBRS

I don't care about whether a game uses steam or not. What I do care about is having to install another stupid game client on my computer. I already have games for windows live and steam, I don't need a third app in my system tray.

What if I buy an ea game through steam that runs on games for windows live but requires me to be logged into origin to play multiplayer or something?

I don't need to be cluster ****** by 3 different programs to play a game.

topgunmv

It's arguments like this that never make sense to me. So desperately worried about running another app to play their games, but Steam? Well, it's totally fine and dandy that it FORCES itself to be launched with every game you play (and there's no way for it to shut itself off after playing). But those other companies doing the same thing? The bastards! You are either in support of allowing DDs to load up their client when you play their game or you're opposed to the idea, regardless of of who it is. I have no qualms about using a client to download/update/activate my games, but I'm reluctant to buy anything from Steam or that uses Steamworks since I know that means having Steam infecting my game. To just agree with the TC's point- yes, Steam fanboys are the worst. I get the idea of platform fanboyism, but store-fanboyism? Complaining about other stores doing the exact same thing your beloved store does? Yeah; I don't get it.LongZhiZi

You don't understand why people are against having to have multiple clients load up to access different games? I'm not surprised that people are annoyed by this.

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

I don't care about whether a game uses steam or not. What I do care about is having to install another stupid game client on my computer. I already have games for windows live and steam, I don't need a third app in my system tray.

What if I buy an ea game through steam that runs on games for windows live but requires me to be logged into origin to play multiplayer or something?

I don't need to be cluster ****** by 3 different programs to play a game.

LongZhiZi

So, if someone has 100+ DD games on their PC, you can't empathize with them not wanting to run 5-6 clients simultaneously when they could very easily have just run 1, and that one is currently the best client out there by nearly all given standards. Why is that so unbelievable?

[QUOTE="LongZhiZi"]It's arguments like this that never make sense to me. So desperately worried about running another app to play their games, but Steam? Well, it's totally fine and dandy that it FORCES itself to be launched with every game you play (and there's no way for it to shut itself off after playing). But those other companies doing the same thing? The bastards! You are either in support of allowing DDs to load up their client when you play their game or you're opposed to the idea, regardless of of who it is. I have no qualms about using a client to download/update/activate my games, but I'm reluctant to buy anything from Steam or that uses Steamworks since I know that means having Steam infecting my game. To just agree with the TC's point- yes, Steam fanboys are the worst. I get the idea of platform fanboyism, but store-fanboyism? Complaining about other stores doing the exact same thing your beloved store does? Yeah; I don't get it.lundy86_4

You don't understand why people are against having to have multiple clients load up to access different games? I'm not surprised that people are annoyed by this.

[QUOTE="LongZhiZi"][QUOTE="topgunmv"]

I don't care about whether a game uses steam or not. What I do care about is having to install another stupid game client on my computer. I already have games for windows live and steam, I don't need a third app in my system tray.

What if I buy an ea game through steam that runs on games for windows live but requires me to be logged into origin to play multiplayer or something?

I don't need to be cluster ****** by 3 different programs to play a game.

tempest91

So, if someone has 100+ DD games on their PC, you can't empathize with them not wanting to run 5-6 clients simultaneously when they could very easily have just run 1, and that one is currently the best client out there by nearly all given standards. Why is that so unbelievable?

[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="LongZhiZi"] It's arguments like this that never make sense to me. So desperately worried about running another app to play their games, but Steam? Well, it's totally fine and dandy that it FORCES itself to be launched with every game you play (and there's no way for it to shut itself off after playing). But those other companies doing the same thing? The bastards! You are either in support of allowing DDs to load up their client when you play their game or you're opposed to the idea, regardless of of who it is. I have no qualms about using a client to download/update/activate my games, but I'm reluctant to buy anything from Steam or that uses Steamworks since I know that means having Steam infecting my game. To just agree with the TC's point- yes, Steam fanboys are the worst. I get the idea of platform fanboyism, but store-fanboyism? Complaining about other stores doing the exact same thing your beloved store does? Yeah; I don't get it.LongZhiZi

So, if someone has 100+ DD games on their PC, you can't empathize with them not wanting to run 5-6 clients simultaneously when they could very easily have just run 1, and that one is currently the best client out there by nearly all given standards. Why is that so unbelievable?

Not an outrage that EA is trying the same thing, but just that origin is terrible in comparison. We have experienced a better client running EA games, and now that is taken away and we are forced to use a second, and by many standards, less desirable one. Why is that not a negative?

[QUOTE="LongZhiZi"][QUOTE="topgunmv"]

I don't care about whether a game uses steam or not. What I do care about is having to install another stupid game client on my computer. I already have games for windows live and steam, I don't need a third app in my system tray.

What if I buy an ea game through steam that runs on games for windows live but requires me to be logged into origin to play multiplayer or something?

I don't need to be cluster ****** by 3 different programs to play a game.

tempest91

So, if someone has 100+ DD games on their PC, you can't empathize with them not wanting to run 5-6 clients simultaneously when they could very easily have just run 1, and that one is currently the best client out there by nearly all given standards. Why is that so unbelievable?

Not an outrage that EA is trying the same thing, but just that origin is terrible in comparison. We have experienced a better client running EA games, and now that is taken away and we are forced to use a second, and by many standards, less desirable one. Why is that not a negative?

tempest91

[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="LongZhiZi"] It's arguments like this that never make sense to me. So desperately worried about running another app to play their games, but Steam? Well, it's totally fine and dandy that it FORCES itself to be launched with every game you play (and there's no way for it to shut itself off after playing). But those other companies doing the same thing? The bastards! You are either in support of allowing DDs to load up their client when you play their game or you're opposed to the idea, regardless of of who it is. I have no qualms about using a client to download/update/activate my games, but I'm reluctant to buy anything from Steam or that uses Steamworks since I know that means having Steam infecting my game. To just agree with the TC's point- yes, Steam fanboys are the worst. I get the idea of platform fanboyism, but store-fanboyism? Complaining about other stores doing the exact same thing your beloved store does? Yeah; I don't get it.yoshi_64

So, if someone has 100+ DD games on their PC, you can't empathize with them not wanting to run 5-6 clients simultaneously when they could very easily have just run 1, and that one is currently the best client out there by nearly all given standards. Why is that so unbelievable?

I can do that all day long, I think the point is that EA games were on steam, and now they launch a client that in honesty sucked for the BF3 Alpha, and we are forced to use that instead of Steam for a game that many want to play. I mean, is it really hard to see why people want to use a better client for their games and keep thing simplified? It sounds pretty logical to me.

[QUOTE="tempest91"]

Not an outrage that EA is trying the same thing, but just that origin is terrible in comparison. We have experienced a better client running EA games, and now that is taken away and we are forced to use a second, and by many standards, less desirable one. Why is that not a negative?

yoshi_64

No, the client was clumsy and functions of it were much more cumbersome to use, and that is in comparison to any game client out there. After playing the alpha this is the general consensus that I got from most others too, not just Steam users either.

I don't understand why you are annoyed to have multiple clients to load up games, but you don't mind having one (Steam) FORCED upon you and everyone else. Why should Steam be my game launching client? Why can't it be Raptr? Or Xfire? Or whatever I want it to be. I'm opposed to having to use ANY client to load games (note the word 'load', not 'buy,' 'update,' or 'activate'). Why do you find it acceptable for Steam to force itself upon you but outraged that Origin/someone else would try to the same trick?LongZhiZi

Why not? One (forced) is preferable to multiple (also forced, a la Origin).

Steam has become more than a "game launching client" and has moved into the realm of a service. It provides services other than launching my games.

It's frustrating (not outraging) that another service would do the same, as they are trying to offer games, yet those late to the party are simply withholding in order to gain the advantage.

No Steam, no buy. I am NOT encouraging an EA-controlled version of STEAM.

[QUOTE="LongZhiZi"] I don't understand why you are annoyed to have multiple clients to load up games, but you don't mind having one (Steam) FORCED upon you and everyone else. Why should Steam be my game launching client? Why can't it be Raptr? Or Xfire? Or whatever I want it to be. I'm opposed to having to use ANY client to load games (note the word 'load', not 'buy,' 'update,' or 'activate'). Why do you find it acceptable for Steam to force itself upon you but outraged that Origin/someone else would try to the same trick?lundy86_4

Why not? One (forced) is preferable to multiple (also forced, a la Origin).

Steam has become more than a "game launching client" and has moved into the realm of a service. It provides services other than launching my games.

It's frustrating (not outraging) that another service would do the same, as they are trying to offer games, yet those late to the party are simply withholding in order to gain the advantage.