Steam Just turned PC gaming into a relaxing Console experience.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="amaneuvering"]But how do you actually get it to run on your TV? My PC isn't connected to my TV and you don't have it on Wii/WiiU/Xbox360/PS3. So how the hell does it work on your TV?amaneuvering

I'm no more, or less relaxed when I game on my PC in comparison to console gaming.

I donno, maybe it's because I bought a quality computer chair, but I can sit in it forever, and not care too much.

With that said I won't find much use for this new mode. It's just rare that I actually buy a PC game that works best with a controller, and I don't have a seperate in my living room. If I did then I'm sure I'd download what controller-friendly games I do have onto it

Ly_the_Fairy

Yeah, I've never really got the whole argument that sitting at a desk gaming on a PC is uncomfortable. Anti-PC fanboys cry all day about how PC gamers are all hunched over, craning their necks, squinting at tiny screens but, that's not the default PC gaming position. That's just sitting with bad posture. Which can be done on a couch, too. If you just get even a halfway decent chair, and make sure it's a good height for your desk/table, sitting at your computer for hours is just as comfortable, if not more, than sitting on a couch for hours.

it was relaxing before this

My major issues with PC gaming were that it was very uncomfortable and the lack of Japanese software. The integration of 360 controllers (and UI) into games is a great start. Now we have a UI that works well as well (before you would need a mouse and have to sit at your workstation to load up a game). As for Japanese games...well they have almost no prominence on consoles these days anyway (having moved to handhelds), and to an extent the indie scene scratches the same itches. There are still some steps that could be taken though to improve the experience. For instance, some games need UI tweak options to make them TV friendly (RTS in particular) and other games inexplicably have console UI and input removed for the PC versions (almost all the recent Bioware games). I don't expect the former to ever change (though I guess I do mostly use the PC for console ports). Now all I need to do is find an effective way to kill the fan noise on the PC and we're good.Articuno76

Both consoles are much louder than any of my Computers.

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Have Steam boot when you start your PC up, it should boot straight into BP mode.clyde46

So, the only way to get Steam in my f'n living room on my TV is to connect my PC directly? If I had my PC connected to my f'm TV I'd already be playing it on my f'n TV in the first place. How is this any use to anyone that doesn't have their PC connected directly to their TV? Which for the record will be an absolutely miniscule number of people.

Surely someone like you can comprehend that I don't have my PC connected to my TV or I wouldn't have asked the question in the first place.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="amaneuvering"]But how do you actually get it to run on your TV? My PC isn't connected to my TV and you don't have it on Wii/WiiU/Xbox360/PS3. So how the hell does it work on your TV?amaneuvering

I'm talking about getting it ON MY TV.

Sure, I can run it on my PC that's stuck in the corner of my room but that doesn't change anything.

How do I actually get Steam to run on my TV that's sitting in the center or my living room in front of my nice comfy sofa?

That's the whole point selling point of this right, to be able to play it on my big TV from the comfort of my sofa, no?

Do you actually not know how to plug things in? It's not complicated. You know how your PS3 (or 360, whatever) has a cord (or possibly cords) that comes out the back of it, and plugs into your TV, carrying an audio/video signal from the console to the display? Well, PCs do that too. So, what you do is, take the cord coming from your PC (probably HDMI, if it's even semi-modern), and you... plug it in to your TV. Right next to where your console is plugged in. After that, you'll need to use your TV remote, and push the "input" button a couple times, to cycle over to HDMI. If you need further instruction, I'm sure there's a 1-800 number printed in the manual that came with your TV, which you can call, to be talked through all of this by someone in India.

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] Have Steam boot when you start your PC up, it should boot straight into BP mode.the_bi99man

I'm talking about getting it ON MY TV.

Sure, I can run it on my PC that's stuck in the corner of my room but that doesn't change anything.

How do I actually get Steam to run on my TV that's sitting in the center or my living room in front of my nice comfy sofa?

That's the whole point selling point of this right, to be able to play it on my big TV from the comfort of my sofa, no?

Do you actually not know how to plug things in? It's not complicated. You know how your PS3 (or 360, whatever) has a cord (or possibly cords) that comes out the back of it, and plugs into your TV, carrying an audio/video signal from the console to the display? Well, PCs do that too. So, what you do is, take the cord coming from your PC (probably HDMI, if it's even semi-modern), and you... plug it in to your TV. Right next to where your console is plugged in. After that, you'll need to use your TV remote, and push the "input" button a couple times, to cycle over to HDMI. If you need further instruction, I'm sure there's a 1-800 number printed in the manual that came with your TV, which you can call, to be talked through all of this by someone in India.

[QUOTE="clyde46"]

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"] I'm talking about getting it ON MY TV. Sure, I can run it on my PC that's stuck in the corner of my room but that doesn't change anything. How do I actually get it to run on my TV that's sitting in the center or my living room in front of my nice comfy sofa? That's the whole point selling point of this right, to be able to play it on my big TV from the comfort of my sofa, no?amaneuvering

It's not. That's the point of it. Were you expecting a steam update to provide some magical way to transfer a signal to your TV without cords?

Big Picture Mode doesn't change the way your PC/TV works. It's just a user interface that makes navigating the steam store, and your games library, and launching your games, possible using a gamepad. You plug your PC into your TV, your controller into your PC, then you open BPM, and you get a sleek, console styled interface you can control with your gamepad.

ok that UI is sweet. It's really starting to look like I will return to full PC gamer next generation. Really the few exclusives on the consoles aren't that worth it. If I could just get Gears, Halo, Uncharted and Ratchet and Clank on the PC I would have no reason to own a console.

So, the only way to get Steam in my f'n living room on my TV is to connect my PC directly? If I had my PC connected to my f'm TV I'd already be playing it on my f'n TV in the first place. How is this any use to anyone that doesn't have their PC connected directly to their TV? Which for the record will be an absolutely miniscule number of people. Totally pointless.

amaneuvering

Yes, the only way to get your PC to display on your TV is to plug your PC into your TV. Just like the only way to get your Blu Ray player to display on your TV is to plug it into your TV. And the only way to get your console to display on your TV is to plug it into your TV. And the only way to get your cable box or sattelite receiver to display on your TV is to plug it into your TV.

It's just a controller friendly, console styled user interface. Not some kind of magic, revolutionary way to wirelessly transfer an HD audio/video signal.

Don't really understand what you were expecting...

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"][QUOTE="clyde46"] You connect your PC to your TV via VGA, DVI or HDMI? Surely even someone like your of limited cognitive processing can comprehend that.

the_bi99man

It's not. That's the point of it. Were you expecting a steam update to provide some magical way to transfer a signal to your TV without cords?

Big Picture Mode doesn't change the way your PC/TV works. It's just a user interface that makes navigating the steam store, and your games library, and launching your games, possible using a gamepad. You plug your PC into your TV, your controller into your PC, then you open BPM, and you get a sleek, console styled interface you can control with your gamepad.

YES!

I was expecting them to offer Steam as a direct service to modern TVs or at the very least through your consoles, via a service/Channel, that are already connected to your TVs.

Otherwise this is purely for computer nerds and no one else.

It's pretty much utterly pointless to anyone other than computer geeks, who are the only people that will have a PC connected directly to a TV, without the ability to directly play it on your TV without having to plug a PC in first.

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"] So, the only way to get Steam in my f'n living room on my TV is to connect my PC directly? If I had my PC connected to my f'm TV I'd already by playing it on my f'n TV anyway. How is this any use to anyone that doesn't have their PC connected directly to their TV?amaneuvering

It's not. That's the point of it. Were you expecting a steam update to provide some magical way to transfer a signal to your TV without cords?

Big Picture Mode doesn't change the way your PC/TV works. It's just a user interface that makes navigating the steam store, and your games library, and launching your games, possible using a gamepad. You plug your PC into your TV, your controller into your PC, then you open BPM, and you get a sleek, console styled interface you can control with your gamepad.

How would they make steam a direct service to a "modern TV"? Does your TV have a video card? Does your TV have a CPU and an operating system? Does your TV have sufficient processing power to run games on it's own? Of course it doesn't. Because it's a TV.

Do you actually understand how computers work? Or did you think your consoles are just disc readers, and that your TV houses the computational power, rendering the games?

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"] So, the only way to get Steam in my f'n living room on my TV is to connect my PC directly? If I had my PC connected to my f'm TV I'd already by playing it on my f'n TV anyway. How is this any use to anyone that doesn't have their PC connected directly to their TV?amaneuvering

It's not. That's the point of it. Were you expecting a steam update to provide some magical way to transfer a signal to your TV without cords?

Big Picture Mode doesn't change the way your PC/TV works. It's just a user interface that makes navigating the steam store, and your games library, and launching your games, possible using a gamepad. You plug your PC into your TV, your controller into your PC, then you open BPM, and you get a sleek, console styled interface you can control with your gamepad.

YES!

I was expecting them to offer Steam as a direct service to modern TVs or at the very least through your consoles, via a service/Channel, that are already connected to your TVs.

Otherwise this is purely for computer nerds and no one else.

It's pretty much utterly pointless to anyone other than computer geeks, who are the only people that will have a PC connected directly to a TV, without the ability to directly play it on your TV without having to plug a PC in first.

whaaaa?

and how exactly are they supposed to that? Is your TV a top of the line computer?

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"] So, the only way to get Steam in my f'n living room on my TV is to connect my PC directly? If I had my PC connected to my f'm TV I'd already by playing it on my f'n TV anyway. How is this any use to anyone that doesn't have their PC connected directly to their TV?amaneuvering

It's not. That's the point of it. Were you expecting a steam update to provide some magical way to transfer a signal to your TV without cords?

Big Picture Mode doesn't change the way your PC/TV works. It's just a user interface that makes navigating the steam store, and your games library, and launching your games, possible using a gamepad. You plug your PC into your TV, your controller into your PC, then you open BPM, and you get a sleek, console styled interface you can control with your gamepad.

YES!

I was expecting them to offer Steam as a direct service to modern TVs or at the very least through your consoles, via a service/Channel, that are already connected to your TVs.

Otherwise this is purely for computer nerds and no one else.

It's pretty much utterly pointless to anyone other than computer geeks, who are the only people that will have a PC connected directly to a TV, without the ability to directly play it on your TV without having to plug a PC in first.

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

It's not. That's the point of it. Were you expecting a steam update to provide some magical way to transfer a signal to your TV without cords?

Big Picture Mode doesn't change the way your PC/TV works. It's just a user interface that makes navigating the steam store, and your games library, and launching your games, possible using a gamepad. You plug your PC into your TV, your controller into your PC, then you open BPM, and you get a sleek, console styled interface you can control with your gamepad.

rilpas

YES!

I was expecting them to offer Steam as a direct service to modern TVs or at the very least through your consoles, via a service/Channel, that are already connected to your TVs.

Otherwise this is purely for computer nerds and no one else.

It's pretty much utterly pointless to anyone other than computer geeks, who are the only people that will have a PC connected directly to a TV, without the ability to directly play it on your TV without having to plug a PC in first.

whaaaa?

and how exactly are they supposed to that? Is your TV a top of the line computer?

Well, if they weren't going to use some kind of Cloud based service that would have allowed them to do this on TVs, they could have at least offered it via some kind of service/Channel on your modern consoles.

Right now it's almost completely pointless to all but geeks who actually believe it's something cool when in reality it's just a more clumsy version of what you can already do on the very same PC you're going to be using it on better with a mouse and keyboard anyway.

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

It's not. That's the point of it. Were you expecting a steam update to provide some magical way to transfer a signal to your TV without cords?

Big Picture Mode doesn't change the way your PC/TV works. It's just a user interface that makes navigating the steam store, and your games library, and launching your games, possible using a gamepad. You plug your PC into your TV, your controller into your PC, then you open BPM, and you get a sleek, console styled interface you can control with your gamepad.

clyde46

YES!

I was expecting them to offer Steam as a direct service to modern TVs or at the very least through your consoles, via a service/Channel, that are already connected to your TVs.

Otherwise this is purely for computer nerds and no one else.

It's pretty much utterly pointless to anyone other than computer geeks, who are the only people that will have a PC connected directly to a TV, without the ability to directly play it on your TV without having to plug a PC in first.

You need to get a clue.

If they weren't going to use some kind of Cloud based service that would have allowed them to do this on TVs, they could have offered via some kind of service/Channel on your modern consoles. That's what this should have been.

All it is right now is a slower and more clumsy interface for the same PC you've been using it on anyway but now it's for complete nerds who actually think it's offering something special.

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"][QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

It's not. That's the point of it. Were you expecting a steam update to provide some magical way to transfer a signal to your TV without cords?

Big Picture Mode doesn't change the way your PC/TV works. It's just a user interface that makes navigating the steam store, and your games library, and launching your games, possible using a gamepad. You plug your PC into your TV, your controller into your PC, then you open BPM, and you get a sleek, console styled interface you can control with your gamepad.

the_bi99man

How would they make steam a direct service to a "modern TV"? Does your TV have a video card? Does your TV have a CPU and an operating system? Does your TV have sufficient processing power to run games on it's own? Of course it doesn't. Because it's a TV.

Do you actually understand how computers work? Or did you think your consoles are just disc readers, and that your TV houses the computational power, rendering the games?

Well, if they weren't going to use some kind of Cloud based service that would have allowed them to do this on TVs, they could have at least offered it via some kind of service/Channel on your modern consoles.

Right now it's almost completely pointless to all but geeks who actually believe it's something cool when in reality it's just a more clumsy version of what you can already do on the very same PC you're going to be using it on better with a mouse and keyboard anyway.

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"] So, the only way to get Steam in my f'n living room on my TV is to connect my PC directly? If I had my PC connected to my f'm TV I'd already by playing it on my f'n TV anyway. How is this any use to anyone that doesn't have their PC connected directly to their TV?amaneuvering

It's not. That's the point of it. Were you expecting a steam update to provide some magical way to transfer a signal to your TV without cords?

Big Picture Mode doesn't change the way your PC/TV works. It's just a user interface that makes navigating the steam store, and your games library, and launching your games, possible using a gamepad. You plug your PC into your TV, your controller into your PC, then you open BPM, and you get a sleek, console styled interface you can control with your gamepad.

YES!

I was expecting them to offer Steam as a direct service to modern TVs or at the very least through your consoles, via a service/Channel, that are already connected to your TVs.

Otherwise this is purely for computer nerds and no one else.

It's pretty much utterly pointless to anyone other than computer geeks, who are the only people that will have a PC connected directly to a TV, without the ability to directly play it on your TV without having to plug a PC in first.

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

It's not. That's the point of it. Were you expecting a steam update to provide some magical way to transfer a signal to your TV without cords?

Big Picture Mode doesn't change the way your PC/TV works. It's just a user interface that makes navigating the steam store, and your games library, and launching your games, possible using a gamepad. You plug your PC into your TV, your controller into your PC, then you open BPM, and you get a sleek, console styled interface you can control with your gamepad.

GamerwillzPS

YES!

I was expecting them to offer Steam as a direct service to modern TVs or at the very least through your consoles, via a service/Channel, that are already connected to your TVs.

Otherwise this is purely for computer nerds and no one else.

It's pretty much utterly pointless to anyone other than computer geeks, who are the only people that will have a PC connected directly to a TV, without the ability to directly play it on your TV without having to plug a PC in first.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

YES!

I was expecting them to offer Steam as a direct service to modern TVs or at the very least through your consoles, via a service/Channel, that are already connected to your TVs.

Otherwise this is purely for computer nerds and no one else.

It's pretty much utterly pointless to anyone other than computer geeks, who are the only people that will have a PC connected directly to a TV, without the ability to directly play it on your TV without having to plug a PC in first.

amaneuvering

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Please don't ever breed. clyde46

No, it's to make it easier to use it on a TV display and with a controller you tool.

Watch the frikin ad:

http://store.steampowered.com/bigpicture/

"Steam, Now Playing on your TV"

The point is that if it's just your PC connected directly to your TV directly anyway then why the hell would anyone bother using a slower and more clumsy method.

Your PC is already f'n connected to your TV if you're going to use this so you must also have your keyboard and mouse set up too!

It's almost completely and utterly pointless!

You REALLY need to use that pea in your head.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

YES!

I was expecting them to offer Steam as a direct service to modern TVs or at the very least through your consoles, via a service/Channel, that are already connected to your TVs.

Otherwise this is purely for computer nerds and no one else.

It's pretty much utterly pointless to anyone other than computer geeks, who are the only people that will have a PC connected directly to a TV, without the ability to directly play it on your TV without having to plug a PC in first.

amaneuvering

(pic)

No, we don't need the gimmicky cloud-based service or "Smart TV".

This is great for people who regularly use the PC for gaming, so they can just boot the PC up and dive straight in the Big Picture UI just like consoles. PC could move to the living room if it proves efficient. Games need a CPU, GPU, RAM, HDD and all of PC hardware, so it's impossible to have them stream to your TV without the PC plugged in. Valve isn't going to bring cloud gaming to existence. It's a laggy and blurry mess.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="amaneuvering"] You need to get a clue. If they weren't going to use some kind of Cloud based service that would have allowed them to do this on TVs, they could have offered via some kind of service/Channel on your modern consoles. That's what this should have been. All it is right now is a slower and more clumsy interface for the same PC you've been using it on anyway but now it's for complete nerds who think it's offering something special.amaneuvering

No, it's to make it easier to use it on a TV display and with a controller you tool.

The point is that if it's just your PC connected directly to your TV directly anyway then why the hell would anyone bother using a slower and more clumsy method.

Your PC is already f'n connected to your TV if you're going to use this so you must also have your keyboard and mouse set up too!

It's utterly pointless!

You REALLY need to use that pea in your head.

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] I'm struggling to grasp how you even manage to breath. The whole idea of BPM is to make it easier to use Steam on your PC. This isn't some magical service that will suddenly make your TV into an gaming PC. This is Steams offering to challenge the current movement of the consoles. clyde46

No, it's to make it easier to use it on a TV display and with a controller you tool.

The point is that if it's just your PC connected directly to your TV directly anyway then why the hell would anyone bother using a slower and more clumsy method.

Your PC is already f'n connected to your TV if you're going to use this so you must also have your keyboard and mouse set up too!

It's utterly pointless!

You REALLY need to use that pea in your head.

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

(pic)

GamerwillzPS

No, we don't need the gimmicky cloud-based service or "Smart TV".

This is great for people who regularly use the PC for gaming, so they can just boot the PC up and dive straight in the Big Picture UI just like consoles. PC could move to the living room if it proves efficient. Games need a CPU, GPU, RAM, HDD and all of PC hardware, so it's impossible to have them stream to your TV without the PC plugged in. Valve isn't going to bring cloud gaming to existence. It's a laggy and blurry mess.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

No, it's to make it easier to use it on a TV display and with a controller you tool.

The point is that if it's just your PC connected directly to your TV directly anyway then why the hell would anyone bother using a slower and more clumsy method.

Your PC is already f'n connected to your TV if you're going to use this so you must also have your keyboard and mouse set up too!

It's utterly pointless!

You REALLY need to use that pea in your head.

amaneuvering

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Set Steam to open on boot, have it open in BPM. Never have to see desktop. Derp herp.clyde46

It is almost completely pointless and useless.

If you have your PC connected up to your TV anyway then you also have your mouse and keyboard there too, otherwise your PC would have been almost completey unusable to this point, so why the hell would you SERIOUSLY want to switch to a slower and more clumsy interface just for the sake of it.

http://store.steampowered.com/bigpicture/

The ad is a lot of bull that makes it seem like this actually brings Steam to your TV when in reality all it does it bring a crappier and slower interface to your PC connected to your TV display that's already running Steam better anyway.

Here is an aboslute FACT for you...

99.9% of people who try this will use if for a few mins, change it back to the normal interface, and then never go back to "Big Picture Mode" again.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"] Well, if they weren't going to use some kind of Cloud based service that would have allowed them to do this on TVs, they could have at least offered it via some kind of service/Channel on your modern consoles. Right now it's almost completely pointless to all but geeks who actually believe it's something cool when in reality it's just a more clumsy version of what you can already do on the very same PC you're going to be using it on better with a mouse and keyboard anyway.amaneuvering

No, we don't need the gimmicky cloud-based service or "Smart TV".

This is great for people who regularly use the PC for gaming, so they can just boot the PC up and dive straight in the Big Picture UI just like consoles. PC could move to the living room if it proves efficient. Games need a CPU, GPU, RAM, HDD and all of PC hardware, so it's impossible to have them stream to your TV without the PC plugged in. Valve isn't going to bring cloud gaming to existence. It's a laggy and blurry mess.

How's Big Picture a gimmick? :|

I don't see myself using it often, but I might one day, I never know. It's pretty obvious that it's extremely useful for people who just wanted to play games once they pressed the power button without going in the desktop. Just dive straight into Big Picture and play games instantly. Just like consoles. How the hell is it a gimmick?

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

No, we don't need the gimmicky cloud-based service or "Smart TV".

This is great for people who regularly use the PC for gaming, so they can just boot the PC up and dive straight in the Big Picture UI just like consoles. PC could move to the living room if it proves efficient. Games need a CPU, GPU, RAM, HDD and all of PC hardware, so it's impossible to have them stream to your TV without the PC plugged in. Valve isn't going to bring cloud gaming to existence. It's a laggy and blurry mess.

GamerwillzPS

How's Big Picture a gimmick? :|

I don't see myself using it often, but I might one day, I never know. It's pretty obvious that it's extremely useful for people who just wanted to play games once they pressed the power button without going in the desktop. Just dive straight into Big Picture and play games instantly. Just like consoles. How the hell is it a gimmick?

It is almost completely pointless and useless.

If you have your PC connected up to your TV anyway then you also have your mouse and keyboard there too, otherwise your PC would have been almost completey unusable to this point, so why the hell would you SERIOUSLY want to switch to a slower and more clumsy interface just for the sake of it.

http://store.steampowered.com/bigpicture/

The ad is a lot of bull that makes it seem like this actually brings Steam to your TV when in reality all it does it bring a crappier and slower interface to your PC connected to your TV display that's already running Steam better anyway.

Here is an aboslute FACT for you... 99.9% of people who try this will use if for a few mins, change it back to the normal interface, and then never go back to "Big Picture Mode" again.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="amaneuvering"] This is just a pure and almost completely useless gimmick for people just like you and nothing else.amaneuvering

It is almost completely pointless and useless.

If you have your PC connected up to your TV anyway then you also have your mouse and keyboard there too, otherwise your PC would have been almost completey unusable to this point, so why the hell would you SERIOUSLY want to switch to a slower and more clumsy interface just for the sake of it.

http://store.steampowered.com/bigpicture/

The ad is a lot of bull that makes it seem like this actually brings Steam to your TV when in reality all it does it bring a crappier and slower interface to your PC connected to your TV display that's already running Steam better anyway.

Here is an aboslute FACT for you...

99.9% of people who try this will use if for a few mins, change it back to the normal interface, and then never go back to "Big Picture Mode" again.

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] That's your opinion and opinions do not equal facts.clyde46

It is almost completely pointless and useless.

If you have your PC connected up to your TV anyway then you also have your mouse and keyboard there too, otherwise your PC would have been almost completey unusable to this point, so why the hell would you SERIOUSLY want to switch to a slower and more clumsy interface just for the sake of it.

http://store.steampowered.com/bigpicture/

The ad is a lot of bull that makes it seem like this actually brings Steam to your TV when in reality all it does it bring a crappier and slower interface to your PC connected to your TV display that's already running Steam better anyway.

Here is an aboslute FACT for you...

99.9% of people who try this will use if for a few mins, change it back to the normal interface, and then never go back to "Big Picture Mode" again.

Yeah, you're just too ignorant to know the truth when you see it.

Using the good old "facts" retort is all you've got and you know it.

Small minded man.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

It is almost completely pointless and useless.

If you have your PC connected up to your TV anyway then you also have your mouse and keyboard there too, otherwise your PC would have been almost completey unusable to this point, so why the hell would you SERIOUSLY want to switch to a slower and more clumsy interface just for the sake of it.

http://store.steampowered.com/bigpicture/

The ad is a lot of bull that makes it seem like this actually brings Steam to your TV when in reality all it does it bring a crappier and slower interface to your PC connected to your TV display that's already running Steam better anyway.

Here is an aboslute FACT for you...

99.9% of people who try this will use if for a few mins, change it back to the normal interface, and then never go back to "Big Picture Mode" again.

amaneuvering

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Facts are backed up with evidence, I see none in your post.clyde46

People like you need a LOT more than evidence to help you "get it".

Trust me on that.

You can happily shove that debate up your ***.

[QUOTE="Articuno76"] Now all I need to do is find an effective way to kill the fan noise on the PC and we're good.the_bi99man

Liquid cooling. Total silence, and it'll keep your components cooler than any fans ever could.

Or, if you're feeling adventurous (and a little ghetto), remove all your fans, and put your entire motherboard (with RAM, CPU, GPU, etc. attached) into a fish tank full of vegetable oil. Keep your power supply, disc drives, and harddrives out of the tank, and just run their cables right into the tank, and peripheral cables (mouse/keyboard, controllers, monitor) out of the tank.

It works because, unlike water, vegetable oil doesn't conduct electricity, so the components submerged in it work just fine, and aren't damaged (aside from being messy when and if you remove them). However, being a liquid, the oil makes full surface contact with every component, and every little nook and cranny of the mobo, absorbing all the heat right out of them. Works so well you can overclock your processors to more than double their factory speeds, and they'll never even rise above room temperature.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="amaneuvering"] Yeah, you're just to ignorant to know the truth when you see it. Using the good old "facts" retort is all you've got and you know it. Small minded man.amaneuvering

People like you need a LOT more than evidence to help you "get it".

Trust me on that.

You can hapily shover that debate up your ***.

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

[QUOTE="Articuno76"] Now all I need to do is find an effective way to kill the fan noise on the PC and we're good.Articuno76

Liquid cooling. Total silence, and it'll keep your components cooler than any fans ever could.

Or, if you're feeling adventurous (and a little ghetto), remove all your fans, and put your entire motherboard (with RAM, CPU, GPU, etc. attached) into a fish tank full of vegetable oil. Keep your power supply, disc drives, and harddrives out of the tank, and just run their cables right into the tank, and peripheral cables (mouse/keyboard, controllers, monitor) out of the tank.

It works because, unlike water, vegetable oil doesn't conduct electricity, so the components submerged in it work just fine, and aren't damaged (aside from being messy when and if you remove them). However, being a liquid, the oil makes full surface contact with every component, and every little nook and cranny of the mobo, absorbing all the heat right out of them. Works so well you can overclock your processors to more than double their factory speeds, and they'll never even rise above room temperature.

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] All you have done is sprout nonsense, when you bring evidence I will happily debate with you. Evidence can take the form of articles, white papers, surveys, videos etc. you have brought nothing to the table. clyde46

People like you need a LOT more than evidence to help you "get it".

Trust me on that.

You can hapily shover that debate up your ***.

You grasp whatever the f'k you want.

I know a pile of pointless gimmicky crap for complete nerds and nothing more when I see it.

This could have actually been something special.

It's not.

You can believe whatever it is you want to imagine to be the truth.

Meh, not interested.

I'm fine with playing behind a computer screen and on a comfy seat whilst using my keyboard and mouse but good for people who can use the system I guess.

I see no point in Big Picture mode honestly.

So I can play my PC games with a controller and on the TV?

please I've been doing that since I got the emachine and been playing Left 4 Dead 2 on that piece of junk on my TV since last year.

Didn't need this "Big Picture" thing.

[QUOTE="clyde46"]

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"] I'm talking about getting it ON MY TV. Sure, I can run it on my PC that's stuck in the corner of my room but that doesn't change anything. How do I actually get it to run on my TV that's sitting in the center or my living room in front of my nice comfy sofa? That's the whole point selling point of this right, to be able to play it on my big TV from the comfort of my sofa, no?amaneuvering

So, the only way to get Steam in my f'n living room on my TV is to connect my PC directly? If I had my PC connected to my f'm TV I'd already be playing it on my f'n TV in the first place. How is this any use to anyone that doesn't have their PC connected directly to their TV? Which for the record will be an absolutely miniscule number of people.

Surely someone like you can comprehend that I don't have my PC connected to my TV or I wouldn't have asked the question in the first place.

amane is one angry person maybe he or she needs to take some angery management. this is just an odd on for people who use 360 controller and have their pc connected to the tv. its not a evolution its not a revolution its just another game option to pc users

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

People like you need a LOT more than evidence to help you "get it".

Trust me on that.

You can hapily shover that debate up your ***.

amaneuvering

You grasp whatever the f'k you want.

I know a pile of pointless gimmicky crap for complete nerds and nothing more when I see it.

This could have actually been something special.

It's not.

You can believe whatever it is you want to imagine to be the truth.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

People like you need a LOT more than evidence to help you "get it".

Trust me on that.

You can hapily shover that debate up your ***.

amaneuvering

You grasp whatever the f'k you want.

I know a pile of pointless gimmicky crap for complete nerds and nothing more when I see it.

This could have actually been something special.

It's not.

You can believe whatever it is you want to imagine to be the truth.

Dude, why are you so angry?:?

In the end of the day, BPM is a choice. People can use it if they like it. Or they don't have. What's with all the hatred?

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] We get that you don't like BPM but you need to grasp that others do. IgGy621985

You grasp whatever the f'k you want.

I know a pile of pointless gimmicky crap for complete nerds and nothing more when I see it.

This could have actually been something special.

It's not.

You can believe whatever it is you want to imagine to be the truth.

Dude, why are you so angry?:?

In the end of the day, BPM is a choice. People can use it if they like it. Or they don't have. What's with all the hatred?

I'm not angry.

I just think clyde46 is a little t***er and I'm responding to him accordingly.

My point about BPM still stands regardless of who I'm replying to however.

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] We get that you don't like BPM but you need to grasp that others do. Totalgym9000

You grasp whatever the f'k you want.

I know a pile of pointless gimmicky crap for complete nerds and nothing more when I see it.

This could have actually been something special.

It's not.

You can believe whatever it is you want to imagine to be the truth.

There is a TINY percentage of people who have their PCs connected to their TVs.

This is created for a tiny niche of nerds and it doesn't really improve the experience they are going to have for the most part anyway because if they already have their PCs connected to their TVs then they've already been playing the likes of Steam on their PC for ages now anyway, with their mouse and keyboards which will also obviously be attached too and which already offer a faster, smoother and more intuitive navigation experience.

This, as it turns out, is just a pointless gimmick for a tiny minority of geeks.

[QUOTE="IgGy621985"]

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

You grasp whatever the f'k you want.

I know a pile of pointless gimmicky crap for complete nerds and nothing more when I see it.

This could have actually been something special.

It's not.

You can believe whatever it is you want to imagine to be the truth.

amaneuvering

Dude, why are you so angry?:?

In the end of the day, BPM is a choice. People can use it if they like it. Or they don't have. What's with all the hatred?

I'm not angry.

I just think clyde46 is a little t***er and I'm responding to him accordingly.

My point about BPM still stands regardless of who I'm replying to however.

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

[QUOTE="IgGy621985"]

Dude, why are you so angry?:?

In the end of the day, BPM is a choice. People can use it if they like it. Or they don't have. What's with all the hatred?

clyde46

I'm not angry.

I just think clyde46 is a little t***er and I'm responding to him accordingly.

My point about BPM still stands regardless of who I'm replying to however.

[QUOTE="Totalgym9000"][QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

You grasp whatever the f'k you want.

I know a pile of pointless gimmicky crap for complete nerds and nothing more when I see it.

This could have actually been something special.

It's not.

You can believe whatever it is you want to imagine to be the truth.

amaneuvering

There is a TINY percentage of people who have their PCs connected to their TVs.

This is created for a tiny niche of nerds and it doesn't really improve the experience they are going to have for the most part anyway because if they already have their PCs connected to their TVs then they've already been playing the likes of Steam on their PC for ages now anyway, with their mouse and keyboards which will also obviously be attached too and which already offer a better navigation experience.

This, as it turns out, is just a pointless gimmick for a tiny minority of geeks.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

I'm not angry.

I just think clyde46 is a little t***er and I'm responding to him accordingly.

My point about BPM still stands regardless of who I'm replying to however.

amaneuvering

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

[QUOTE="Totalgym9000"]You would think that when not 1 single person is backing up your argument......it might tell you something, my PC is right across from my big TV which I just have to connect with an HDMI cable, big picture allows me to basically play my PC and enjoy it like a console by navigating it with a 360 controller in the comfort of my relaxing recliner chair, which before was not possible, now on PC not only can you get the best graphics but you can also get that relaxing console like experience that people do find as an advantage, How is this not a good thing????GamerwillzPS

There is a TINY percentage of people who have their PCs connected to their TVs.

This is created for a tiny niche of nerds and it doesn't really improve the experience they are going to have for the most part anyway because if they already have their PCs connected to their TVs then they've already been playing the likes of Steam on their PC for ages now anyway, with their mouse and keyboards which will also obviously be attached too and which already offer a better navigation experience.

This, as it turns out, is just a pointless gimmick for a tiny minority of geeks.

It is a mostly pointless gimmick for an absolutely miniscule minority of geeks.