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#51 waahahah
Member since 2014 • 2462 Posts

Steam machines are just an option in PC gaming, SteamOS is trash though. I'm sorry linux zealots your OS is rubbish unless its a server or running a router.

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#52 NoodleFighter
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@FireEmblem_Man said:
@NoodleFighter said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:

@MBirdy88: Remember @NoodleFighter? He praised the hell out of SteamOS and prominent of Linux gaming. Now he no longer shows his face here.

Actually I've just been burnt out on gaming and felt like I had nothing to add to most discussions lately so I've mostly just been lurking lately.

Sucks about SteamOS and Linux gaming though it did have potential that never got to be shown and executed properly.

Wow, it only took one mention to bring you back? You can blame Valve for not pushing SteamOS enough or even their console hardware partners.

It was both Valve didn't promote SteamOS enough and work with enough AAA devs to get them to support Linux, they also screwed up by letting almost anyone be a steam machine brand, and the manufacturers made it worse by having too many variations and PCs not worth the price or PCs not cheap enough.

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#54 Jak42
Member since 2016 • 1093 Posts

@NoodleFighter: Having too many variants certainly caused brand/consumer confusion.

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#55 svaubel
Member since 2005 • 4571 Posts

They were quite overpriced for what you were getting compared to just building a PC or even going to one of those gaming PC prebuilt places/websites. So its no wonder they completely bombed.

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#56 WitIsWisdom
Member since 2007 • 10463 Posts

Well, I for one hope they are dying out... I have wanted one for awhile, but don't want to pay the prices they want... lol

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#57 ronvalencia
Member since 2008 • 29612 Posts

@metalslimenite said:

Some hermits said they would destroy all consoles tho.

Xbox = small CPU:big GPU ratio at game console price target, platform vendor maintenance for end user's machines (for end users) and enhanced DRM (for developers).

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#58 Atomolog
Member since 2016 • 195 Posts

Steam machine would be cool at lower price point now. got my Xbox one s with game and controller for 239€ brand new + 19€ 2 year all risk insurance.

The worst steam machine for 499 is too much

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#59 Gatygun
Member since 2010 • 2709 Posts

linux boxes where never alive to start with.

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#60 mojito1988
Member since 2006 • 4984 Posts

I have the Alienware Alpha (Not really a steam machine, but man do I love how good it is.) Steam machines that are closed off platforms never made any sense at all when you can get the exact same console from Alienware Alpha.

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#62 pyro1245
Member since 2003 • 9525 Posts

Yeah....

They did have some meaningful impact tho. Linux gaming is a bit more user-friendly since then. It lost momentum too quickly and we're still pretty much stuck with Windows for gaming. Womp womp.

Calling them 'Steam Machines' might not have been the best idea. It was really just an effort to diversify gaming and get consumers out from under the thumb of the mega-corps.... I was and still am totally for this effort.

I think people focused too much on the actual machines....

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#63 GarGx1
Member since 2011 • 10934 Posts

Never seen the point of the Steam Machine

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#64  Edited By mrbojangles25
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@uninspiredcup said:

Seems so.

Steam link and controller are great though, both do exactly what they were designed to do.

yup!

Steam Link is simply incredibly, so happy I don't need to drag a computer out to my TV :D

As for Steam Machines, it was a neat concept but it addresses a market that was already filled, and I'd like to think that the type of consumer that wants to actually have a computer at their PC is tech-savvy enough to do it on their own without having to actually buy a separate PC to do so. Doomed from the start, I'd wager, but that's a moot point; it's just another line of PC's from various manufacturers, and most are built to order. It's not like Valve built 10 million of these things and they're sitting in a warehouse :D

I'm just sad a "third party" OS, much like politics, didn't take off and gain more support :(

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@metalslimenite said:

Some hermits said they would destroy all consoles tho.

I literally believe that no human being that exists now or has ever existed ever said this.

seriously. They never intended to tackle the console market, or make inroads on it, or steal sales from consoles. At the risk of coming off as a fanboy, Valve does their own thing, and generally for the sake of innovation, for better or worse.

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#65 NoodleFighter
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@mojito1988 said:

I have the Alienware Alpha (Not really a steam machine, but man do I love how good it is.) Steam machines that are closed off platforms never made any sense at all when you can get the exact same console from Alienware Alpha.

The original creation was because of Gabe fearing Windows 8 and 10 being walled gardens which did not happen so it SteamOS needed another purpose to exist and I guess is to serve as living room gaming friendly OS. SteamOS and Steam machines definitely weren't going to overnight take away a significant number of gamers from Windows and consoles but the metagame should be in the long run be a viable option as linux slowly gets more support.

Well with linux being free a steam machine would cost $100 less than its Windows counterpart which helps make it cheaper and more price competitive with consoles without actually have to take a loss in sales on hardware. Heck your Alienware Alpha is exactly $100 more than it's SteamOS counterpart. SteamOS isn't closed off at any point you go into desktop mode and use it like any other linux OS. But I think the point is to make it more like a console so people don't go through the stuff they normally would with windows, basically Steam Big Picture mode but Windows not in the background.

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@NoodleFighter: It was you and johnmalkovich who made those threads claiming they would destroy consoles. Been trying to remember your username all day lol.

Dang is this all I'm ever remembered for? lol. If Valve pushed more marketing and kept getting AAA support they certainly could of made some noticeable difference.

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#66 PimpHand_Gamer
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It's going to require a hardware vendor to actually market it along side consoles, however that won't happen because in order to compete, their isn't enough profits in hardware alone and they won't get any cut for any games released for it. They would be completely reliant on hardware sales.

The Vive isn't even supported for Steam OS which is the stupidest thing in the world. Everyone still uses Windows and it performs better on the same games than SteamOS

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the flopped harder than vr

Except VR didn't even flop. HTC claimed great profits. Games are constantly releasing every month.

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#67 360ru13r
Member since 2008 • 1856 Posts

Steam machine. Yup lets bring out 4 different versions of the same machine just for gaming. Totally won't confuse non gaming/ electronic people when buying a gaming machine.

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#68 Ten_Pints
Member since 2014 • 4072 Posts

I didn't entirely fail, there are a crap load more Linux ports than there were.

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#69 Gaming-Planet
Member since 2008 • 21107 Posts

Xbox One X pretty much makes having a steam machine pointless, unless you plan on building your own home theater PC.