Still not convinced the Wii is stronger than the first Xbox

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#1 Instashot
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Games like Halo 2, Doom 3, Conker, Crimson Skies, etc. All look better than 99% of Wii games.

I know you sheep will say the devs aren't utilzing the hardware but its been almost 3 years since the Wii released and Xbox STILL has better graphics and it came out in 2001.

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#2 SolidTy
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The Wii is only about 3 1/2 years old...give the Wii 5 more years, then make your decision. In the meantime, let the Wii have it's moment of glory.:P

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#3 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="Instashot"]

Games like Halo 2, Doom 3, Conker, Crimson Skies, etc. All look better than 99% of Wii games.

I know you sheep will say the devs aren't utilzing the hardware but its been almost 3 years since the Wii released and Xbox STILL has better graphics and it came out in 2001.

Metroid Prime 3 looks better than all those games. Wasnt to hard to answer your question.
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#4 Miyomatic
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Funny, seeing as how all the people who bought one didn't seem to notice/care.

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#5 Devil-Itachi
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If you not convinced your not convinced. Probably anything anyone says or shows won't convince you. So why was this thread made? Comedy?
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="Instashot"]

Games like Halo 2, Doom 3, Conker, Crimson Skies, etc. All look better than 99% of Wii games.

I know you sheep will say the devs aren't utilzing the hardware but its been almost 3 years since the Wii released and Xbox STILL has better graphics and it came out in 2001.

Metroid Prime 3 looks better than all those games. Wasnt to hard to answer your question.

Metroid prime 3 does not look better then Doom 3 from what I've seen.
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#8 Meinhard1
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Halo 2:

Halo 2 Screenshot #348

Metroid Prime Corruption

Doom 3

Doom 3 Screenshot #39

Super Mario Galaxy:

IDK it's not obvious but I'd give a nod to the Wii.

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#9 Renegade_Fury
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Funny, seeing as how all the people who bought one didn't seem to notice/care.

Miyomatic

This. I didn't buy a Wii for graphics; I got one for its games. Hard concept to grasp for system wars members, I know.

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#10 CTR360
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ninja gaiden chaos theory doom3 ridick panzer dragoon orta halo ce half life2 sory wii dont even cloose of xbox
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#11 FeedOnATreeFrog
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it doesn't matter if its more powerful. You still aren't getting games that look better because the devs won't try. (except a few like SMG). Nobody goes to the wii for an HD experience, so there's no point of increasing costs when it will have marginal impact on demand. (wheras last generation, a console as powerful as the wii would have to be pushed farther in order to edge out the competition to win over that market).
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#12 Pices
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Well, no one cares if you're not convinced then ;)
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#13 Bigboi500
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Meh who cares? Wii has better games than the old Xbox imo.

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#14 amaneuvering
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="Instashot"]

Games like Halo 2, Doom 3, Conker, Crimson Skies, etc. All look better than 99% of Wii games.

I know you sheep will say the devs aren't utilzing the hardware but its been almost 3 years since the Wii released and Xbox STILL has better graphics and it came out in 2001.

Metroid Prime 3 looks better than all those games. Wasnt to hard to answer your question.

Maybe artistically it does, which is all subjective anyway, but not technically. Doom 3's realtime dynamic lighting and shadows are vastly superior to the lighting and shadows in Metroid Prime. Halo 2's bump mapping is vastly superior to the pretty much non-existent bump mapping in Metroid Prime 3 for example. Metroid Prime 3 is a great looking game for sure but it only looks better than those games above, in your opinion of course, because of the art direction as opposed to anything being done technically in MP3 that isn't being done in those Xbox games.
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#15 bobbleheadrogue
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[QUOTE="Miyomatic"]

Funny, seeing as how all the people who bought one didn't seem to notice/care.

Renegade_Fury

This. I didn't buy a Wii for graphics; I got one for its games. Hard concept to grasp for system wars members, I know.

agreed. most people got the wii so they could move around a bit while having fun :)

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#16 Zanoh
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This thread is basically so: Flame bait...

To the topic creator: If your not convinced, then don't make a thread expecting to be deemed otherwise. While we are on the same page I can just as easily say I am not convinced the Xbox 360 is better than its predecessor the Xbox due to library of games I cherish more on the older one than the new, or even suffice to say that the PS3 is also not better than its own predecessor due to the fact it lacks the rpg/jrpg library amongst other genres that the PS2 is known well for.

If you find what I just said to be stupid, then I am merely showing you the results of what you sowed.

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#18 amaneuvering
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I still think Doom 3 on Xbox looks overall visibly better than Metroid Prime 3.

It's the amazing dynamic lighting and shadows that does it for me personally.

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#20 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="Meinhard1"]

Halo 2:

Metroid Prime Corruption

Doom 3

Super Mario Galaxy:

IDK it's not obvious but I'd give a nod to the Wii.

Sandvichman

A halo 2 gameplay picture.

then a metroid prime 3 bullshot.

A low res doom 3 pic. Then a SMG bullshot.

That's consistency for ya.

They arnt bullshots...

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#21 lespaul1919
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you guys are nuts, halo 2 and doom 3 destroy any wii game. DESTROY. then riddick looks better than those two.

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#22 Pices
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you guys are nuts, halo 2 and doom 3 destroy any wii game. DESTROY. then riddick looks better than those two.

lespaul1919
You live in a fantasy world. You don't have a Wii, so obviously, you're gonna act like an HD fanboy.
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#23 kontejner44
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A halo 2 gameplay picture.

then a metroid prime 3 bullshot.

A low res doom 3 pic. Then a SMG bullshot.

That's consistency for ya.

Sandvichman

Are you on some kind of rampage against the Wii? You keep milking everything in favor of anything non-Wii. What did Nintendo do to deserve this :(

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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"]

A halo 2 gameplay picture.

then a metroid prime 3 bullshot.

A low res doom 3 pic. Then a SMG bullshot.

kontejner44

those cant be bullshots. i see jaggys

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#25 Supafly1
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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"]

A halo 2 gameplay picture.

then a metroid prime 3 bullshot.

A low res doom 3 pic. Then a SMG bullshot.

That's consistency for ya.

kontejner44

Are you on some kind of rampage against the Wii? You keep milking everything in favor of anything non-Wii. What did Nintendo do to deserve this :(

Probably the $250 price tag on a "Gamecube with motion controls". That's what I am guessing, could be something else too.
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#26 Domobomb
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Games like Halo 2, Doom 3, Conker, Crimson Skies, etc. All look better than 99% of Wii games.

I know you sheep will say the devs aren't utilzing the hardware but its been almost 3 years since the Wii released and Xbox STILL has better graphics and it came out in 2001.

Instashot

Maybe, but I doubt anyone really buys consoles for graphics, lol.

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#27 Pices
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[QUOTE="Supafly1"][QUOTE="kontejner44"]

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"]

A halo 2 gameplay picture.

then a metroid prime 3 bullshot.

A low res doom 3 pic. Then a SMG bullshot.

That's consistency for ya.

Are you on some kind of rampage against the Wii? You keep milking everything in favor of anything non-Wii. What did Nintendo do to deserve this :(

Probably the $250 price tag on a "Gamecube with motion controls". That's what I am guessing, could be something else too.

LOL "GC with motion controls" Thats the most ignorant things I have ever heard. The Wii could does a lot of stuff that the GC cannot do.
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#28 SapSacPrime
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Games like Halo 2, Doom 3, Conker, Crimson Skies, etc. All look better than 99% of Wii games.

I know you sheep will say the devs aren't utilzing the hardware but its been almost 3 years since the Wii released and Xbox STILL has better graphics and it came out in 2001.

Instashot
This is a stupid argument, those games look better than 99% of the games on the original Xbox too your point? the 1% of games on the Wii which do look better (SMG and MP3 spring to mind) look better than 100% of the game on the Xbox. Im sure nearing the end of this gen we should be over the fact the Wii isn't very powerful, its not like you don't know what you will be getting prior to purchase.
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#29 KiZZo1
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At its current price point Nintendo probably has a ridiculous profit margin. With more powerful hardware, allowing for ports of HD platform games, they could still be profitable, without denying their customers access to a much larger and varied library ...

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#30 locopatho
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Agreed. I had a PS2 last gen, and Wii definately looks better than it. But playing some Xbox 1 games on my 360, and they really look as good as Wii games, in fact better than 99% of Wii games. Stuff like Galaxy and Metroid look great, but so does Conker and Ninja Gaiden. Hell, even some GC games I'm playing for the first time look as good as Wii games, Metroid, F Zero GX and Windwaker spring to mind!
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The xbox has the upper hand in some cases as it uses DirectX api's so devs could wrap round it much quicker and if PC was a lead platform it would reap the benefits i loved the xbox the porting of outrun 2 to the xbox was possibly one of the most amazing ports from arcade to a console since time crisis 1 even tho the hardware was far weaker it really strut its stuff and held up true to the actual arcade game.

The wiis been floundering as dev's dont take it as seriously as they should which is a shame only a few have took good cracks at wii games mainly japanese devs like capcom who done the 2 RE on rails shooters which i really enjoyed and it fit well with the wii as a console overall tbh.If dev's could do better jobs and approach the wii with the wii and the gamer in mind of only just shovelling crap on it.

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#33 Dataleak
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Lol another one of these threads. Xbox >>> Wii graphically. Color =/= technical graphics.

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#34 DeckardLeeV
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="Instashot"]

Games like Halo 2, Doom 3, Conker, Crimson Skies, etc. All look better than 99% of Wii games.

I know you sheep will say the devs aren't utilzing the hardware but its been almost 3 years since the Wii released and Xbox STILL has better graphics and it came out in 2001.

Metroid Prime 3 looks better than all those games. Wasnt to hard to answer your question.

Halo 2 maybe but you're dead wrong if you think it looks better than Doom 3.
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#35 Pices
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[QUOTE="DeckardLeeV"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="Instashot"]

Games like Halo 2, Doom 3, Conker, Crimson Skies, etc. All look better than 99% of Wii games.

I know you sheep will say the devs aren't utilzing the hardware but its been almost 3 years since the Wii released and Xbox STILL has better graphics and it came out in 2001.

Metroid Prime 3 looks better than all those games. Wasnt to hard to answer your question.

Halo 2 maybe but you're dead wrong if you think it looks better than Doom 3.

Can't convince him, sorry.
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#36 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="DeckardLeeV"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="Instashot"]

Games like Halo 2, Doom 3, Conker, Crimson Skies, etc. All look better than 99% of Wii games.

I know you sheep will say the devs aren't utilzing the hardware but its been almost 3 years since the Wii released and Xbox STILL has better graphics and it came out in 2001.

Metroid Prime 3 looks better than all those games. Wasnt to hard to answer your question.

Halo 2 maybe but you're dead wrong if you think it looks better than Doom 3.

From what ive seen and heard about Doom 3 then i'd be insane in agreeing with you. MP3 runs at a smooth and sillky 60fps, What did Doom 3 run at and didnt the game have frame rate drop issues?! That alone speaks volumes if true.
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#37 racing1750
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I have to agree. SMG looks amazing for a wii game though.
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#39 CwlHeddwyn
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I've said it before and I'll say it again:

Wii has the edge in the CPU department.

Wii has a clear advantage in the RAM department.

Xbox wins in the GPU department.

Nintendo decided to go for a very basic GPU for the Wii and that has held the visuals back somewhat, the GPU in the Xbox can produce more advanced effects.

this is what keeps the Xbox in contention with a console that is on paper more powerful.

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#40 Supafly1
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[QUOTE="Supafly1"][QUOTE="kontejner44"]

Are you on some kind of rampage against the Wii? You keep milking everything in favor of anything non-Wii. What did Nintendo do to deserve this :(

Pices

Probably the $250 price tag on a "Gamecube with motion controls". That's what I am guessing, could be something else too.

LOL "GC with motion controls" Thats the most ignorant things I have ever heard. The Wii could does a lot of stuff that the GC cannot do.

Well, this "GC with motion controls" is used basically because of the hardware that the Wii has, not because of the extra features like SD card or online capability.

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#41 Pices
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[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="Supafly1"] Probably the $250 price tag on a "Gamecube with motion controls". That's what I am guessing, could be something else too.Supafly1

LOL "GC with motion controls" Thats the most ignorant things I have ever heard. The Wii could does a lot of stuff that the GC cannot do.

Well, this "GC with motion controls" is used basically because of the hardware that the Wii has, not because of the extra features like SD card or online capability.

Stronger than the GC, buddy
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#42 dezzyfiesta
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="Instashot"]

Games like Halo 2, Doom 3, Conker, Crimson Skies, etc. All look better than 99% of Wii games.

I know you sheep will say the devs aren't utilzing the hardware but its been almost 3 years since the Wii released and Xbox STILL has better graphics and it came out in 2001.

Metroid Prime 3 looks better than all those games. Wasnt to hard to answer your question.

Metroid is the best looking game i played on the Wii I reckon. But a lot of the other games on Wii are very weak graphically although I think this has more to do with the makers of the games than the Wii's perceived weaknesses.
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#43 88mphSlayer
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if you're going to post Doom 3 xbox post a real screenshot, not teamxbox stuff

xbox doom 3

and here's metroid prime 3

metroid prime 3

and super mario galaxy:

smg

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#44 Yo-gan
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After playing Halo 2 again the other night, it has not aged well. There are plenty of Wii games that look and run alot better than it.
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#45 Clank-PS-Snake
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[QUOTE="Miyomatic"]

Funny, seeing as how all the people who bought one didn't seem to notice/care.

Renegade_Fury

This. I didn't buy a Wii for graphics; I got one for its games. Hard concept to grasp for system wars members, I know.

Do you honestly blame us when it has the weakest libary of all systems,
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#46 Pices
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[QUOTE="Clank-PS-Snake"][QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

[QUOTE="Miyomatic"]

Funny, seeing as how all the people who bought one didn't seem to notice/care.

This. I didn't buy a Wii for graphics; I got one for its games. Hard concept to grasp for system wars members, I know.

Do you honestly blame us when it has the weakest libary of all systems,

But it has a good amount of games to satisfy it's buyer whether you like it or not
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#47 110million
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Wow people suck at comparing screen shots, Its definatly stronger, I remember a lot of games looking great last-gen too until you play them again. Thats not to say there are no XBOX games that look better than any Wii game, because the Wii has plenty of low budget games that look bad. But the Wii's graphically pleasing titles are better than anything on XBOX, these tiny screen shots people use to compare hide a lot of faults. If you stretch both to actual resolutions, it would become much more obvious.
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#48 locopatho
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Wow people suck at comparing screen shots, Its definatly stronger, I remember a lot of games looking great last-gen too until you play them again. Thats not to say there are no XBOX games that look better than any Wii game, because the Wii has plenty of low budget games that look bad. But the Wii's graphically pleasing titles are better than anything on XBOX, these tiny screen shots people use to compare hide a lot of faults. If you stretch both to actual resolutions, it would become much more obvious. 110million
I dunno, I've been playing F Zero GX and Windwaker, and I think if they were Wii games people would be listing them as proof of how the Wii is stronger than last gen consoles :P
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#49 Skittles_McGee
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  There. Both in the same resolution (which was amazingly hard to find). Draw whatever conclusion you will.