Still not convinced the Wii is stronger than the first Xbox

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#51 deactivated-5967f36c08c33
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[QUOTE="Instashot"]

Games like Halo 2, Doom 3, Conker, Crimson Skies, etc. All look better than 99% of Wii games.

I know you sheep will say the devs aren't utilzing the hardware but its been almost 3 years since the Wii released and Xbox STILL has better graphics and it came out in 2001.

Dibdibdobdobo

Metroid Prime 3 looks better than all those games. Wasnt to hard to answer your question.

You know, if you can only mention one game, something tells me there's something wrong there.

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#52 goblaa
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I guess I can't figure why anyone would care.

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#54 Pices
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[QUOTE="Instashot"][QUOTE="JONO51"]

The xbox has such a big amount of games that looks as good as/better than wii games: HL2, riddick, doom 3, chaos theory, halo 2, dead or alives, ninja gaiden, conker. I'm sure I'm forgetting a few even then.The fact that after all this time the wii can't challenge whats basically 10 yr old hardware says a lot about it.

This.

*Completes the sentence* ......is nonsense
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#55 HavocV3
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IDK.

EA reviewed a mock-up of Dead Space on the original Xbox.

the Wii version is a rail shooter, must be some limitation there.

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#56 Pices
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IDK.

EA reviewed a mock-up of Dead Space on the original Xbox.

the Wii version is a rail shooter, must be some limitation there.

HavocV3

The game beinga rail shooter does not mean that it is too weakto get the original Dead Space because, according to EA, it IS possible to port the original Dead Space to the Wii.

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#57 princeofshapeir
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When M:OM is released it will be the new graphics king, and will prove that the console is stronger than the original Xbox.
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#58 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="110million"]Wow people suck at comparing screen shots, Its definatly stronger, I remember a lot of games looking great last-gen too until you play them again. Thats not to say there are no XBOX games that look better than any Wii game, because the Wii has plenty of low budget games that look bad. But the Wii's graphically pleasing titles are better than anything on XBOX, these tiny screen shots people use to compare hide a lot of faults. If you stretch both to actual resolutions, it would become much more obvious. locopatho
I dunno, I've been playing F Zero GX and Windwaker, and I think if they were Wii games people would be listing them as proof of how the Wii is stronger than last gen consoles :P

Windwaker is a technically unimpressive game.
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#59 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="VGobbsesser"]

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="Instashot"]

Games like Halo 2, Doom 3, Conker, Crimson Skies, etc. All look better than 99% of Wii games.

I know you sheep will say the devs aren't utilzing the hardware but its been almost 3 years since the Wii released and Xbox STILL has better graphics and it came out in 2001.

Metroid Prime 3 looks better than all those games. Wasnt to hard to answer your question.

You know, if you can only mention one game, something tells me there's something wrong there.

1st game which popped to mind. Wanted to keep it short and sweet.
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#60 Dibdibdobdobo
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When M:OM is released it will be the new graphics king, and will prove that the console is stronger than the original Xbox.princeofshapeir
Could say Monster Hunter Tri too as thats kinda out.
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#61 disismycomp
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Ninja Gaiden, Chronicles of Riddick(looks better than Doom 3 on Xbox), Halo 2, Rallisport Challenge 2 all look better than any Wii game.
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#63 Shoooryuken
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i dun care if its stronger or not. its definately more fun.
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#68 vashkey
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So? Nintendo gamers are all about saying graphics are unimportant until the next Metroid, Resident Evil or Conduit come around.
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#69 Dibdibdobdobo
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So? Nintendo gamers are all about saying graphics are unimportant until the next Metroid, Resident Evil or Conduit come around.vashkey
im sure they was unimportant from the start but hey its SW's. We need to discuss some rubbish to pass the time.
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#70 kontejner44
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So? Nintendo gamers are all about saying graphics are unimportant until the next Metroid, Resident Evil or Conduit come around.vashkey

Graphics are unimportant, for me, because:

Controler + IR pointer >>>> Graphics

They heavily outweigh graphics, as I value Gameplay the most.

I just might pick up Move for my PS3 if it does stuff the Wii don't, and also if it's used in exclusive FPS's that are worth playing. Sony has at least realized what's going on, and I am a happy PSWii owner. I'd love Halo though from 360's side but I wont buy a console just for that.

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#72 Pices
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Ninja Gaiden, Chronicles of Riddick(looks better than Doom 3 on Xbox), Halo 2, Rallisport Challenge 2 all look better than any Wii game.disismycomp
Nice attempt at making your words "official"
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#73 LegatoSkyheart
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Blame Developers and Publishers for giving the Wii crap instead of good stuff.

If the Wii is better than the original Xbox then I'd like to see Developers give me something REALLY GOOD!

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#74 jalexbrown
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[QUOTE="Devil-Itachi"]If you not convinced your not convinced. Probably anything anyone says or shows won't convince you. So why was this thread made? Comedy?Dibdibdobdobo
Flame-Bait.

So we've got a honest troll? Well, that's new. I guess...congratulations of at least manning up to it.
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#75 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="Devil-Itachi"]If you not convinced your not convinced. Probably anything anyone says or shows won't convince you. So why was this thread made? Comedy?jalexbrown
Flame-Bait.

So we've got a honest troll? Well, that's new. I guess...congratulations of at least manning up to it.

I was on about the thread in general and not myself. Why am i a Troll by the way?!
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#76 OreoMilkshake
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If 1% of Wii games look better than 99% of Xbox games then the Wii can output better graphics. So I agree with you.

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#77 KristoffBrujah
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Dear God! A meteor will strike the Earth because of that! Oh, the humanity!

That's part of the reason Wii can't get hardcore fans. Reggie made this a point of emphasis. It creates technical problems when 3rd parties try to develop for a console so unlike the modern technology on the 360, PC, and PS3.

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#78 jalexbrown
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[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"] Flame-Bait.Dibdibdobdobo
So we've got a honest troll? Well, that's new. I guess...congratulations of at least manning up to it.

I was on about the thread in general and not myself. Why am i a Troll by the way?!

Isn't that what you are if you make threads as flame-bait?
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#79 dgsag
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No Wii game can measure up to Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory.
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#80 Pices
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[QUOTE="KristoffBrujah"]

[QUOTE="Pices"]

Dear God! A meteor will strike the Earth because of that! Oh, the humanity!

That's part of the reason Wii can't get hardcore fans. Reggie made this a point of emphasis. It creates technical problems when 3rd parties try to develop for a console so unlike the modern technology on the 360, PC, and PS3.

No, developers should be blamed, not the hardware. Because THEY decide what to do.
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#81 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="110million"]Wow people suck at comparing screen shots, Its definatly stronger, I remember a lot of games looking great last-gen too until you play them again. Thats not to say there are no XBOX games that look better than any Wii game, because the Wii has plenty of low budget games that look bad. But the Wii's graphically pleasing titles are better than anything on XBOX, these tiny screen shots people use to compare hide a lot of faults. If you stretch both to actual resolutions, it would become much more obvious. princeofshapeir
I dunno, I've been playing F Zero GX and Windwaker, and I think if they were Wii games people would be listing them as proof of how the Wii is stronger than last gen consoles :P

Disagree :D Windwaker is a technically unimpressive game.

Animations and the scale and the sheer gorgeousness of it, amazing!

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#82 IppoTenma
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i posted this in a very similr thread. i'll let the pics do the talking. :)

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/5536/98968949.jpg
http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/814/814437/metroid-prime-3-corruption-20070822001342976_640w.jpghttp://www.mywii.com.au/img/game/Sonic-and-the-Secret-Rings-3.jpghttp://cache.kotaku.com/images/2006/06/supermariogalaxyfront.jpghttp://www.thatvideogameblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/monster-hunter-tri.jpghttp://gamerlimit.com/files/2009/11/fde93_silent-hill-shattered-memories-e309-cq.jpghttp://image.gamespotcdn.com/gamespot/images/2008/335/951327_20081201_790screen011.jpg

Really now? Really?

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#83 IppoTenma
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="locopatho"] I dunno, I've been playing F Zero GX and Windwaker, and I think if they were Wii games people would be listing them as proof of how the Wii is stronger than last gen consoles :Plocopatho

Disagree :D Windwaker is a technically unimpressive game.

Animations and the scale and the sheer gorgeousness of it, amazing!

imo, wind waker is the best looking game of all time.
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There is no way that mp3 has 6xAA.Sandvichman
What is this i dont even.... You dont know you're talking about. Please stop :/
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#85 KristoffBrujah
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No, developers should be blamed, not the hardware. Because THEY decide what to do.Pices

They have to work within the limitations of the hardware. No developer is going to create a second development team to massively dumb down the engine/textures just so it can play properly on the Wii (and probably tarnish their name with an inferior port.)

It's actually profitable to develop for PC/PS3/360, so why would they bother with a huge unprofitable headache?

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#86 ohthemanatee
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Halo 2 and ninja gaiden looked amazing back in it's day. I'm going to have to say that the original Xbox still looks better
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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"]There is no way that mp3 has 6xAA.Thunderdrone
What is this i dont even.... You dont know you're talking about. Please stop :/

It's the Sandwich-man, he's got some issue with the Wii

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#88 Pices
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[QUOTE="Pices"]No, developers should be blamed, not the hardware. Because THEY decide what to do.KristoffBrujah

They have to work within the limitations of the hardware. No developer is going to create a second development team to massively dumb down the engine/textures just so it can play properly on the Wii (and probably tarnish their name with an inferior port.)

It's actually profitable to develop for PC/PS3/360, so why would they bother with a huge unprofitable headache?

LOL, what are you? A developer? An economist?
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#90 KristoffBrujah
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[QUOTE="KristoffBrujah"]

[QUOTE="Pices"]No, developers should be blamed, not the hardware. Because THEY decide what to do.Pices

They have to work within the limitations of the hardware. No developer is going to create a second development team to massively dumb down the engine/textures just so it can play properly on the Wii (and probably tarnish their name with an inferior port.)

It's actually profitable to develop for PC/PS3/360, so why would they bother with a huge unprofitable headache?

LOL, what are you? A developer? An economist?

An accountant, actually. I measure profit and loss for a living.

Their accountants/devs are telling them not to take on unprofitable ventures like developing for Wii. Otherwise, they would have done so.

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#92 Sandvichman
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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"]There is no way that mp3 has 6xAA.Thunderdrone
What is this i dont even.... You dont know you're talking about. Please stop :/

It's more a figure of speech, i'm just trying to say there is no way that picture has that much anti alisasing, wait it's because it's a small screen, is it somehow possible for someone to show me a non bullshot screen in it's native resolution? (mp3)
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#93 Pices
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[QUOTE="KristoffBrujah"]

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="KristoffBrujah"]

They have to work within the limitations of the hardware. No developer is going to create a second development team to massively dumb down the engine/textures just so it can play properly on the Wii (and probably tarnish their name with an inferior port.)

It's actually profitable to develop for PC/PS3/360, so why would they bother with a huge unprofitable headache?

LOL, what are you? A developer? An economist?

An accountant, actually. I measure profit and loss for a living.

And I'm a huge business manager with 8 mansion, 8 cars and 4 wives. Yup.
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#94 ohthemanatee
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An accountant, actually. I measure profit and loss for a living.

Their accountants/devs are telling them not to take on unprofitable ventures like developing for Wii. Otherwise, they would have done so.

KristoffBrujah

By this year's end I should have my college degree on accountancy as well :)

it's been 4 long years

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And I'm a huge business manager with 8 mansion, 8 cars and 4 wives. Yup.Pices

And I can prove it by walking you through an 1120 Subchapter S Corporation corporate tax return, walk you through a 10K, or explain to you the mechanics of fixed-asset depreciation.

Being an accountant isn't as cool as having mansions and 4 wives, though. You really shouldn't dismiss people out-of-hand like that.

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#97 KristoffBrujah
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[QUOTE="KristoffBrujah"]

An accountant, actually. I measure profit and loss for a living.

Their accountants/devs are telling them not to take on unprofitable ventures like developing for Wii. Otherwise, they would have done so.

ohthemanatee

By this year's end I should have my college degree on accountancy as well :)

it's been 4 long years

Good man! Ah, the memories from 2 years ago when I was in college. Tip: Focus hardcore on the CPA before starting work. 8)

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#98 ohthemanatee
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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="KristoffBrujah"]

An accountant, actually. I measure profit and loss for a living.

Their accountants/devs are telling them not to take on unprofitable ventures like developing for Wii. Otherwise, they would have done so.

KristoffBrujah

By this year's end I should have my college degree on accountancy as well :)

it's been 4 long years

Good man! Ah, the memories from 2 years ago when I was in college. Tip: Focus hardcore on the CPA before starting work. 8)

Sorry man, but I'm Portuguese, so i'm not familiar with english acronyms

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#99 Darberio
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You said the games you listed look better than 99 percent of Wii games... which means that there is still 1 percent of Wii games that look better than the best looking XBox games. So I'm kind of confused at what you're getting at.
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#100 Pices
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[QUOTE="Pices"] And I'm a huge business manager with 8 mansion, 8 cars and 4 wives. Yup.KristoffBrujah

And I can prove it by walking you through an 1120 Subchapter S Corporation corporate tax return, walk you through a 10K, or explain to you the mechanics of fixed-asset depreciation.

Being an accountant isn't as cool as having mansions and 4 wives, though. You really shouldn't dismiss people out-of-hand like that.

My point in that post is that you can't expect everything you say to be necessarily believed because it is the Internet.