Stop Hyping "Frostbite Engine 2.0"

So now that the Battlefield 3 Engine's destruction (the main attention of the engine) is getting nerfed to a lower level than Frostbite 1.0, there really is no reason to hype the engine so people can stop now. The only real difference from BC2 on PC is they added Motion blur options and the only difference in Console version is the added MLAA support? Im talking about the Engine here, Not the gameplay....which should still be fun

they're nerfing the destruction? where did they say that?

Also why not? It would be awesome if DICE uses this engine for a Game like Mirror's Edge.

I believe they've moved from scripted destruction to full physics on the destruction, so that explains the change.

So now that the Battlefield 3 Engine's destruction (the main attention of the engine) is getting nerfed to a lower level than Frostbite 1.0, there really is no reason to hype the engine so people can stop now. The only real difference from BC2 on PC is they added Motion blur options and the only difference in Console version is the added MLAA support? Im talking about the Engine here, Not the gameplay....which should still be fun

rich-sac

1. No it's not. It's what we've been seeing. They just aren't allowing buildings to collaspe anymore.

2. Yes. The engine is a graphical BEAST and will easily be the best looking game (on PC of course. Consoles could never handle it.) That's just the icing though. The real cake is the Battlefield gameplay, which is by far the best of any FPS. They use much more advanced lighting, physics, sound has been improved even further, EXCELLENT animation engine from EA Sports, and more.

they're nerfing the destruction? where did they say that?

Also why not? It would be awesome if DICE uses this engine for a Game like Mirror's Edge.

LegatoSkyheart

The only nerf is that you can't bring down 2 story shacks anymore. I don't expect to see that in Karkand anyway.

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

they're nerfing the destruction? where did they say that?

Also why not? It would be awesome if DICE uses this engine for a Game like Mirror's Edge.

ChubbyGuy40

The only nerf is that you can't bring down 2 story shacks anymore. I don't expect to see that in Karkand anyway.

Oh, well that's a shame. Not Game Breaking but It felt real that the Buildings would eventually fall.

So now that the Battlefield 3 Engine's destruction (the main attention of the engine) is getting nerfed to a lower level than Frostbite 1.0, there really is no reason to hype the engine so people can stop now. The only real difference from BC2 on PC is they added Motion blur options and the only difference in Console version is the added MLAA support? Im talking about the Engine here, Not the gameplay....which should still be fun

rich-sac

That was never stated.

[QUOTE="rich-sac"]

So now that the Battlefield 3 Engine's destruction (the main attention of the engine) is getting nerfed to a lower level than Frostbite 1.0, there really is no reason to hype the engine so people can stop now. The only real difference from BC2 on PC is they added Motion blur options and the only difference in Console version is the added MLAA support? Im talking about the Engine here, Not the gameplay....which should still be fun

lawlessx

That was never stated.

So now that the Battlefield 3 Engine's destruction (the main attention of the engine) is getting nerfed to a lower level than Frostbite 1.0, there really is no reason to hype the engine so people can stop now. The only real difference from BC2 on PC is they added Motion blur options and the only difference in Console version is the added MLAA support? Im talking about the Engine here, Not the gameplay....which should still be fun

rich-sac

Next time post a link.

[QUOTE="rich-sac"]

So now that the Battlefield 3 Engine's destruction (the main attention of the engine) is getting nerfed to a lower level than Frostbite 1.0, there really is no reason to hype the engine so people can stop now. The only real difference from BC2 on PC is they added Motion blur options and the only difference in Console version is the added MLAA support? Im talking about the Engine here, Not the gameplay....which should still be fun

lawlessx

That was never stated.

Well it's obvious if you cant even bring down building anymore like in BC2, then it's a downgrade.

The idea that it isn't on the same level simply because you can't completely destroy larger buildings is a bit silly, because they added much more small scale destruction and rubble that can kill you. Not to mention the engine is a major improvement in other areas like lighting, models, animations, smoke and particle effects, etc.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="rich-sac"]

So now that the Battlefield 3 Engine's destruction (the main attention of the engine) is getting nerfed to a lower level than Frostbite 1.0, there really is no reason to hype the engine so people can stop now. The only real difference from BC2 on PC is they added Motion blur options and the only difference in Console version is the added MLAA support? Im talking about the Engine here, Not the gameplay....which should still be fun

rich-sac

That was never stated.

Well it's obvious if you cant even bring down building anymore like in BC2, then it's a downgrade.

Because you say so? Okay.

.... the engine is a major improvement in other areas like lighting, models, animations, smoke and particle effects, etc.

Vaasman

sounds like every other NEW engine to me...improves on lighting, animation, particle, etc. Again, nothing special about Frostbite 2.0

I haven't seen anyone hyping it.

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

.... the engine is a major improvement in other areas like lighting, models, animations, smoke and particle effects, etc.

rich-sac

sounds like every other NEW engine to me...improves on lighting, animation, particle, etc. Again, nothing special about Frostbite 2.0

So now that the Battlefield 3 Engine's destruction (the main attention of the engine) is getting nerfed to a lower level than Frostbite 1.0, there really is no reason to hype the engine so people can stop now. The only real difference from BC2 on PC is they added Motion blur options and the only difference in Console version is the added MLAA support? Im talking about the Engine here, Not the gameplay....which should still be fun

rich-sac

any source other than your imagination?

I agree. To be honest, I've lost some of my initial hype. I was hoping for it to be something different to COD. So it has vehicles, and? They nerfed classes, added a pointles campaign, and took away the destruction. Why couldn't they have named it Bad company 3? Hopefully we will see a true sequel to the almighty BF2.

http://news.tgn.tv/battlefield-3-destruction-is-getting-nerfed/

There is the link, for the fanboys. Hoping to now see "I don't care, it wasn't needed" comments.

http://news.tgn.tv/battlefield-3-destruction-is-getting-nerfed/

There is the link, for the fanboys. Hoping to now see "I don't care, it wasn't needed" comments.

TailBlood

http://news.tgn.tv/battlefield-3-destruction-is-getting-nerfed/

There is the link, for the fanboys. Hoping to now see "I don't care, it wasn't needed" comments.

TailBlood

http://news.tgn.tv/battlefield-3-destruction-is-getting-nerfed/

There is the link, for the fanboys. Hoping to now see "I don't care, it wasn't needed" comments.

TailBlood

[QUOTE="TailBlood"]

http://news.tgn.tv/battlefield-3-destruction-is-getting-nerfed/

There is the link, for the fanboys. Hoping to now see "I don't care, it wasn't needed" comments.

SoraX64

[QUOTE="TailBlood"]

http://news.tgn.tv/battlefield-3-destruction-is-getting-nerfed/

There is the link, for the fanboys. Hoping to now see "I don't care, it wasn't needed" comments.

ferret-gamer

[QUOTE="SoraX64"][QUOTE="TailBlood"]

http://news.tgn.tv/battlefield-3-destruction-is-getting-nerfed/

There is the link, for the fanboys. Hoping to now see "I don't care, it wasn't needed" comments.

TailBlood

[QUOTE="TailBlood"]

http://news.tgn.tv/battlefield-3-destruction-is-getting-nerfed/

There is the link, for the fanboys. Hoping to now see "I don't care, it wasn't needed" comments.

ferret-gamer

[QUOTE="TailBlood"]

http://news.tgn.tv/battlefield-3-destruction-is-getting-nerfed/

There is the link, for the fanboys. Hoping to now see "I don't care, it wasn't needed" comments.

ferret-gamer

[QUOTE="TailBlood"]

[QUOTE="SoraX64"] It isn't even a terrible nerf, it's just something simple so that the buildings can't fall down.. The destruction in BC2 was all predone and scripted, and since the destruction in BF3 is going to be done live, there needs to be a compromise somewhere. With the more destructive engine and gameplay, BF3 would have suffered if you could knock buildings down, because it would have been really easy.SoraX64

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="TailBlood"]

http://news.tgn.tv/battlefield-3-destruction-is-getting-nerfed/

There is the link, for the fanboys. Hoping to now see "I don't care, it wasn't needed" comments.

TailBlood

[QUOTE="SoraX64"][QUOTE="TailBlood"]

http://news.tgn.tv/battlefield-3-destruction-is-getting-nerfed/

There is the link, for the fanboys. Hoping to now see "I don't care, it wasn't needed" comments.

TailBlood

[QUOTE="TailBlood"]

[QUOTE="SoraX64"] It isn't even a terrible nerf, it's just something simple so that the buildings can't fall down.. The destruction in BC2 was all predone and scripted, and since the destruction in BF3 is going to be done live, there needs to be a compromise somewhere. With the more destructive engine and gameplay, BF3 would have suffered if you could knock buildings down, because it would have been really easy.wis3boi

The engine is still producing some of the best animations I've ever seen in real time gameplay.i5750at4Ghz

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]The engine is still producing some of the best animations I've ever seen in real time gameplay.lawlessx

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="TailBlood"]

http://news.tgn.tv/battlefield-3-destruction-is-getting-nerfed/

There is the link, for the fanboys. Hoping to now see "I don't care, it wasn't needed" comments.

Iantheone

[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="TailBlood"]Yup. Just like I expected. Keep defending the title. Keep it up, we know that MW3 will outsell and outscore it. And pc gamers, even if they like the visuals right now will end up saying "It was consolized thats why it feels like cod, blame consoles!"

TailBlood

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="TailBlood"]

http://news.tgn.tv/battlefield-3-destruction-is-getting-nerfed/

There is the link, for the fanboys. Hoping to now see "I don't care, it wasn't needed" comments.

TailBlood

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="TailBlood"]

http://news.tgn.tv/battlefield-3-destruction-is-getting-nerfed/

There is the link, for the fanboys. Hoping to now see "I don't care, it wasn't needed" comments.

TailBlood

[QUOTE="TailBlood"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] It wasn't needed. Infact it would be detrimental to the game if you could just destroy every single building. Battlefield 3 isn't a sandbox game, it has this magical thing called "map design" which is extremely important for making the game fun especially for multiplayer. The map and balance of the game would be completely ruined if some just decided to go "screw it" and use a tank to blow a straight line to the objective, or bomb all the surrounding area of a capture point so there is no cover.SoraX64

[QUOTE="TailBlood"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] It wasn't needed. Infact it would be detrimental to the game if you could just destroy every single building. Battlefield 3 isn't a sandbox game, it has this magical thing called "map design" which is extremely important for making the game fun especially for multiplayer. The map and balance of the game would be completely ruined if some just decided to go "screw it" and use a tank to blow a straight line to the objective, or bomb all the surrounding area of a capture point so there is no cover.ferret-gamer

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="Iantheone"] Screw that. You cant tell me that you cant design a map around the idea that everything will be destroyed. Even if buildings feel down in scripted ways would be fine. Only large enough explosives can bring them down, stuff like that. Bring down a building and it cuts off a path, but opens another one through the rubble (That could be designed as well.). Why cant they do that?Iantheone

Imagine you have a map where one side is trying to get to a capture point in a large city, at one spot the defending team destroys a line of buildings, and then takes cover in the the multistory buildings behind that line. Now the advancing team's cover is essentially destroyed, and the defending team has basically set up a kill zone that the attackers would get slaughtered trying to move through.

[QUOTE="SoraX64"][QUOTE="TailBlood"]Nice paragraph. Too bad it's pointless. Innitially this was a big "omg buildings crumble" for pc gamers. Now your trying to add all excuses to defend it. Fact is, a promised feature was nerfed.

TailBlood

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="TailBlood"]Nice paragraph. Too bad it's pointless. Innitially this was a big "omg buildings crumble" for pc gamers. Now your trying to add all excuses to defend it. Fact is, a promised feature was nerfed.

TailBlood

[QUOTE="SoraX64"][QUOTE="TailBlood"]Nice paragraph. Too bad it's pointless. Innitially this was a big "omg buildings crumble" for pc gamers. Now your trying to add all excuses to defend it. Fact is, a promised feature was nerfed.

TailBlood

Most of the people buying BF3 aren't buying it just to blow up buildings.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="TailBlood"]Nice paragraph. Too bad it's pointless. Innitially this was a big "omg buildings crumble" for pc gamers. Now your trying to add all excuses to defend it. Fact is, a promised feature was nerfed.

TailBlood

And this is where you fail :lol:

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[QUOTE="rich-sac"]

So now that the Battlefield 3 Engine's destruction (the main attention of the engine) is getting nerfed to a lower level than Frostbite 1.0, there really is no reason to hype the engine so people can stop now. The only real difference from BC2 on PC is they added Motion blur options and the only difference in Console version is the added MLAA support? Im talking about the Engine here, Not the gameplay....which should still be fun

rich-sac

That was never stated.

Well it's obvious if you cant even bring down building anymore like in BC2, then it's a downgrade.