Stop overhyping already!

Lemmings need to wake up.

Claiming games like Halo: Reach and Alan Wake (just like every game released)being instant graphics kings is both funny and sad at the same time.

It seems that fans have been waiting for these games for so long that they do not want to see the flaws, but when you spoon feed others your delusions its plain annoying.

Halo: Reach looks just like ODST and 3 with better character models, its no crysis or kz2 killer, sorry! Good thing it still has great gameplay.

Alan wake looksgood but is being way overhyped. Almost on par with Gears 2 and RE5 but with a bouncy framerate and massive screen-tear, its meh.

This post is not to piss off anyone, its actually meant for everyone, to accept the fact that games (even ifthey areon your favorite system) have flaws, andaint instantly the best at everything, especiallyifa game isn't out.

Peace.

Yeah it's almost as bad as how cows immediately hype every game announced as exclusive to be AMAZING, GUARANTEED AAA.... and slap them on their exclusive lists as reasons why PS3 >>> 360. ie: Heavy Rain... White Knight Chronicles.... Lair... Haze... etc.

Halo Reach and Alan Wake deserve the AAA hype and Graphics Hype.

Just recent examples of the many, many threads we see every day in SW:

1. UC2 what? The 360 is back with graphics king! (Created by Level 36 Gamespot user)
2. Alan Wake just ***** PS3 graphic king hopes.
3. First 11 minutes of Alan Wake up (video inside, your pants might explode)
4. Alan Wake will be graphics king
5. Alan Wake the best looking console game(I got only this one over at GT to see if SW was alone...nope, and it's going to be good.)

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1. Halo Reach New GRAPHICS KING. Sorry PS3
   
2. Halo Reach, Console Graphics king
3. Subject: Halo Reach will have console best graphics, just wait.(Here is one from BUNGIE .net!...I grabbed it because the hype is bigger than SW.)

I've seen a bunch for GeoW3 already (here is just a taste : GeoW3 Console graphics King), but I will focus on just the TC's two main games, to keep this post short. BTW : There were many more links, and for good reason, they will be super duperty amazing. :P

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I mean Alan has been in development for a very, very, very long time, longer than even GT5, Splinter Cell, and Killzone 2. It's Remedy's latest opus, and it should rock. I remember having a 360 at launch and waiting for the makers of MAX PAYNE's next game, Alan Wake. It's going to be HUGE.

Halo is Halo, nuff said (Let's be honest, REACH will probably be the Xbox 360's first AAAAE, which was a long time coming). ODST used old Halo 3 assets from Halo 3 AI to Halo 3 graphics and ODST still managed AAAE at GS with considering it was a short expansion with old assets...imagine what REACH is going to do to GS staff's expectations! Longer, better graphics, AI, and game modes...GS is going to go NUTSO!

Halo Reach is going to look grandiose as well. All we hear from Bungie is the technical marvels this game will display, if any company has the raw talent to push the 360, it's BUNGIE! That's the deal right, that Talent is why PS3 games like GOW3, U2, U1, MLB10:The Show, Heavy Rain, and Killzone 2 look so good. Bungie will deliver, as will Remedy, and if not, the back up plan, EPIC has got it coming.

As far as Graphics, if people are going to choose two games for the year to finally take back the Console Graphics Crown, they chose the two best for 360...ALAN Wake and Halo Reach may have amazing hype for scores and graphics, but it is justified.

The Hype game here is about what GS thinks and what they will score as well as personal thoughts. What games would you recommend a hardcore 360 owner to hype? While these games looked good to great, Splinter Cell, Mass Effect 2, and Metro didn't pan out graphically as well as everyone hoped (regarding the Console Graphics King Status, they still look very good though). While they looked great, critics didn't jump on the boat and give the kind of love we expected, and we got for games like GeoW, GeoW2, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, etc.

However, these two upcoming games (Reach and Wake) are True 360 exclusives, and stand a better chance. They have both been in development for the 360 console, with no worries of making another version, so that's gotta strengthen the performance of the game, and make the teams task much easier in squeezing out the hardware. Overall, that's what is great about exclusives, devs can spend more time making ONE DEFINITIVE version for us to play and enjoy.

I didn't mention 2011's GeoW3 that much, which will have AAAE hype for score and GeoW3 already has hype for graphics as well. Why wouldn't it, Cliffy B. has assured us of his visual leadership.

For those that want to see Alan's AAA deserving Hype Thread, Here it is.

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EDIT : As you can see my post and links above prove that both games (Reach & Wake ) have lot's of extreme graphic hype and AAA hype...but they both deserve it.

All this about graphics. Sure I like to have great graphics in my games but I think gameplay is more important. I don't see the reason not to hype a game you think is going to turn out great.

Yeah it's almost as bad as how cows immediately hype every game announced as exclusive to be AMAZING, GUARANTEED AAA.... and slap them on their exclusive lists as reasons why PS3 >>> 360. ie: Heavy Rain... White Knight Chronicles.... Lair... Haze... etc.

moistsandwich

But without OVERHYPE we will never have FAIL.

All this about graphics. Sure I like to have great graphics in my games but I think gameplay is more important. I don't see the reason not to hype a game you think is going to turn out great.

xhawk27

The problem with what you wrote is that you have no idea what you are talking about.As framerate and screen tearing goes,AW will be flawless.There is no framerate problems and screen tearing is caused by encoding(confirmed by devs).Also AW will be on of the best looking games on consoles,Gears 2 IMO still looks better.Reach is set to be amazing looking game,with unmatched scale(considering its graphics).Who will 100% deliver is Epic with Gears 3,Cliffy said they are 1 yr out and done with sp but now they will polish the hell out of the game,also mentioning that UC2 brought it to next level and they have to set new.

One question i got for ps3 fans.Why does RE,RE2 or Rachet look as good as UC or KZ?Insomniac has good budget,they are talented and have all the tools they need,but why dont they make amazing looking games?

I always say wait for final build graphics before hyping them otherwise it might just bite you in the ass.Remember last year a fair load of lemmings were using Forza 3 bullshots against GT5 prologue and all that xD oh happy days.

[QUOTE="moistsandwich"]

Yeah it's almost as bad as how cows immediately hype every game announced as exclusive to be AMAZING, GUARANTEED AAA.... and slap them on their exclusive lists as reasons why PS3 >>> 360. ie: Heavy Rain... White Knight Chronicles.... Lair... Haze... etc.

toast_burner

maybe if cows stopped underhyping it then maybe lemmings would stop overhyping it

case in point:

Halo: Reach looks just like ODST and 3 with better character models

lucky_star

One question i got for ps3 fans.Why does RE,RE2 or Rachet look as good as UC or KZ?Insomniac has good budget,they are talented and have all the tools they need,but why dont they make amazing looking games?

Bus-A-Bus

You are asking gamers why Insomniac does something?

No one will ever be able to answer that, save for insomniac.

I can tell you Ratchet runs at 60Frames Per second (vs. most games running at 30fps), and Ratchet does indeed look amazing, but since it's cartoony, it doesn't get noticed as much, like Banjo.

Lemmings need to wake up.

Claiming games like Halo: Reach and Alan Wake (just like every game released)being instant graphics kings is both funny and sad at the same time.

It seems that fans have been waiting for these games for so long that they do not want to see the flaws, but when you spoon feed others your delusions its plain annoying.

Halo: Reach looks just like ODST and 3 with better character models, its no crysis or kz2 killer, sorry! Good thing it still has great gameplay.

Alan wake looksgood but is being way overhyped. Almost on par with Gears 2 and RE5 but with a bouncy framerate and massive screen-tear, its meh.

This post is not to piss off anyone, its actually meant for everyone, to accept the fact that games (even ifthey areon your favorite system) have flaws, andaint instantly the best at everything, especiallyifa game isn't out.

Peace.

lucky_star

Yeah it's almost as bad as how cows immediately hype every game announced as exclusive to be AMAZING, GUARANTEED AAA.... and slap them on their exclusive lists as reasons why PS3 >>> 360. ie: Heavy Rain... White Knight Chronicles.... Lair... Haze... etc.

moistsandwich

The problem with what you wrote is that you have no idea what you are talking about.As framerate and screen tearing goes,AW will be flawless.There is no framerate problems and screen tearing is caused by encoding(confirmed by devs).Also AW will be on of the best looking games on consoles,Gears 2 IMO still looks better.Reach is set to be amazing looking game,with unmatched scale(considering its graphics).Who will 100% deliver is Epic with Gears 3,Cliffy said they are 1 yr out and done with sp but now they will polish the hell out of the game,also mentioning that UC2 brought it to next level and they have to set new.

One question i got for ps3 fans.Why does RE,RE2 or Rachet look as good as UC or KZ?Insomniac has good budget,they are talented and have all the tools they need,but why dont they make amazing looking games?

The problem with what you wrote is that you have no idea what you are talking about.As framerate and screen tearing goes,AW will be flawless.There is no framerate problems and screen tearing is caused by encoding(confirmed by devs).Also AW will be on of the best looking games on consoles,Gears 2 IMO still looks better.Reach is set to be amazing looking game,with unmatched scale(considering its graphics).Who will 100% deliver is Epic with Gears 3,Cliffy said they are 1 yr out and done with sp but now they will polish the hell out of the game,also mentioning that UC2 brought it to next level and they have to set new.

One question i got for ps3 fans.Why does RE,RE2 or Rachet look as good as UC or KZ?Insomniac has good budget,they are talented and have all the tools they need,but why dont they make amazing looking games?

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

One question i got for ps3 fans.Why does RE,RE2 or Rachet look as good as UC or KZ?Insomniac has good budget,they are talented and have all the tools they need,but why dont they make amazing looking games?

SolidTy

You are asking gamers why Insomniac does something?

No one will ever be able to answer that, save for insomniac.

I can tell you Ratchet runs at 60Frames Per second (vs. most games running at 30fps), and Ratchet does indeed look amazing, but since it's cartoony, it doesn't get noticed as much, like Banjo.

My asking that is implying that type of games and developers targeting(gamplay,co op,huge scale,linear,great graphics)are what makes a difference beside talent.Everybody know that Bungie has talent,its just that they target something totally different(big scale battles,huge amount of a.i,co op...)while GG aimed for great graphics in first place then everything else,they even said if they added co op gfx would be sacrificed.

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

The problem with what you wrote is that you have no idea what you are talking about.As framerate and screen tearing goes,AW will be flawless.There is no framerate problems and screen tearing is caused by encoding(confirmed by devs).Also AW will be on of the best looking games on consoles,Gears 2 IMO still looks better.Reach is set to be amazing looking game,with unmatched scale(considering its graphics).Who will 100% deliver is Epic with Gears 3,Cliffy said they are 1 yr out and done with sp but now they will polish the hell out of the game,also mentioning that UC2 brought it to next level and they have to set new.

One question i got for ps3 fans.Why does RE,RE2 or Rachet look as good as UC or KZ?Insomniac has good budget,they are talented and have all the tools they need,but why dont they make amazing looking games?

lucky_star

I decided to highlight the important part

There's too much emphasis on graphics, not enough on what really matters. You ask anyone here and they'll agree that it's gameplay over graphics all the time, yet we see more of the opposite on these boards.

The problem with what you wrote is that you have no idea what you are talking about.As framerate and screen tearing goes,AW will be flawless.There is no framerate problems and screen tearing is caused by encoding(confirmed by devs).Also AW will be on of the best looking games on consoles,Gears 2 IMO still looks better.Reach is set to be amazing looking game,with unmatched scale(considering its graphics).Who will 100% deliver is Epic with Gears 3,Cliffy said they are 1 yr out and done with sp but now they will polish the hell out of the game,also mentioning that UC2 brought it to next level and they have to set new.

One question i got for ps3 fans.Why does RE,RE2 or Rachet look as good as UC or KZ?Insomniac has good budget,they are talented and have all the tools they need,but why dont they make amazing looking games?

[QUOTE="moistsandwich"]

Yeah it's almost as bad as how cows immediately hype every game announced as exclusive to be AMAZING, GUARANTEED AAA.... and slap them on their exclusive lists as reasons why PS3 >>> 360. ie: Heavy Rain... White Knight Chronicles.... Lair... Haze... etc.

TheShadowLord07

Haze is kinda understanable. The screens Free Radical and Ubisoft put out was heavily shopped and looked amazing.

When it came out, it looked like an upscaled ps2 game, was no where near what was promised.

Heavy Rain looks good, a bit rough around some edges but still looks great.

Uncharted 2 Looks and plays amazing. One of the best games of all time IMO.

Lucky_star needs to wake up. Little does he realize thy people have these thongs called opinions, and that they differ from one another. Seriously, if someone is excited for a game what's the matter with glorifying it? All it is is fan dedication.iammason

nobodys really hyping reach or alan wake as graphics king, but they will beat the extremely linear Ps3 exclusives in the gameplay department, SONY is behind the times, sandbox is in, linear is OUT, alan wake and reach may not have better graphics than UC2 or GOW 3, but with 200 AI on screen in a sandbox enviroment, not to mention the most popular online on the planet, gameplay wise , Reach will stomp all over every Ps3 exclusive.delta3074

I agree with ya...except for the first sentence. Nobody is hyping them...well, I got links in my post above showing lots of graphic hype.

That being said, my big secret is that I win no matter what, because even if they don't become the next CGK's or whatever, they will still be uber fun, and I will love them like my own pet Gerbil, Alan117. :P

I dont think 360 fans are the ones overhyping. All i hear is "x" game will be at Uncharted2 level, 360 can do the same graphics as PS3, etc (which are proven facts. Both consoles are technically at the same level)

On the other hand, what i hear from PS3 fans is that 360 will never reach PS3´s graphic level, PS3 exclusives are miles better than anything on 360, teh mighty cell this and that, etc, etc....Thats overhype imo

My point is that while lems accept both consoles are the same, cows are arrogant enough to think PS3 is far better...:?

The problem with what you wrote is that you have no idea what you are talking about.As framerate and screen tearing goes,AW will be flawless.There is no framerate problems and screen tearing is caused by encoding(confirmed by devs).Also AW will be on of the best looking games on consoles,Gears 2 IMO still looks better.Reach is set to be amazing looking game,with unmatched scale(considering its graphics).Who will 100% deliver is Epic with Gears 3,Cliffy said they are 1 yr out and done with sp but now they will polish the hell out of the game,also mentioning that UC2 brought it to next level and they have to set new.

One question i got for ps3 fans.Why does RE,RE2 or Rachet look as good as UC or KZ?Insomniac has good budget,they are talented and have all the tools they need,but why dont they make amazing looking games?

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

The problem with what you wrote is that you have no idea what you are talking about.As framerate and screen tearing goes,AW will be flawless.There is no framerate problems and screen tearing is caused by encoding(confirmed by devs).Also AW will be on of the best looking games on consoles,Gears 2 IMO still looks better.Reach is set to be amazing looking game,with unmatched scale(considering its graphics).Who will 100% deliver is Epic with Gears 3,Cliffy said they are 1 yr out and done with sp but now they will polish the hell out of the game,also mentioning that UC2 brought it to next level and they have to set new.

One question i got for ps3 fans.Why does RE,RE2 or Rachet look as good as UC or KZ?Insomniac has good budget,they are talented and have all the tools they need,but why dont they make amazing looking games?

hamzah1235

Yes,only problem is that RE series is 30fps...

[QUOTE="hamzah1235"][QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

The problem with what you wrote is that you have no idea what you are talking about.As framerate and screen tearing goes,AW will be flawless.There is no framerate problems and screen tearing is caused by encoding(confirmed by devs).Also AW will be on of the best looking games on consoles,Gears 2 IMO still looks better.Reach is set to be amazing looking game,with unmatched scale(considering its graphics).Who will 100% deliver is Epic with Gears 3,Cliffy said they are 1 yr out and done with sp but now they will polish the hell out of the game,also mentioning that UC2 brought it to next level and they have to set new.

One question i got for ps3 fans.Why does RE,RE2 or Rachet look as good as UC or KZ?Insomniac has good budget,they are talented and have all the tools they need,but why dont they make amazing looking games?

Yes,only problem is that RE series is 30fps...

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

[QUOTE="hamzah1235"] They develop their games in 60 frames per second, but they stated that R&C ACIT was their last 60 frames per second developed title, and the rest of their games will be develpoed in 30 frames per secondhamzah1235

Yes,only problem is that RE series is 30fps...

Yea im sure it was...

http://news.filefront.com/resistance-2-runs-at-720p-and-30fps-campaign-as-long-as-fall-of-man/

"According to Ted Price, however, Resistance 2 will be running at 720p and 30 frames per second."

I agree, the lems need to to let the graphics go.

But when it comes to prematurely hyping games, its a bit rich for cows to talk.

Lemmings need to wake up.

Claiming games like Halo: Reach and Alan Wake (just like every game released)being instant graphics kings is both funny and sad at the same time.

It seems that fans have been waiting for these games for so long that they do not want to see the flaws, but when you spoon feed others your delusions its plain annoying.

Halo: Reach looks just like ODST and 3 with better character models, its no crysis or kz2 killer, sorry! Good thing it still has great gameplay.

Alan wake looksgood but is being way overhyped. Almost on par with Gears 2 and RE5 but with a bouncy framerate and massive screen-tear, its meh.

This post is not to piss off anyone, its actually meant for everyone, to accept the fact that games (even ifthey areon your favorite system) have flaws, andaint instantly the best at everything, especiallyifa game isn't out.

Peace.

lucky_star

So...The whole point of this thread is GRAPICS? Jeez, what about hyping games as being really great games only to find out that they're mindnumbing button mashers infested with quick time events? Or hyping games to be artistic milestones and incredibly deep and powerful experiences only to find out they have terrible voice acting, bad writing, and a stupid plot?

If Halo: Reach looks exactly like Halo 3, I think most people would be totally okay with that. Halo 3 looks good. Who cares if it's the graphics king as long as it's a really good game? Man, you people are killing me with these graphics threads.

I dont think 360 fans are the ones overhyping. All i hear is "x" game will be at Uncharted2 level, 360 can do the same graphics as PS3, etc (which are proven facts. Both consoles are technically at the same level)

On the other hand, what i hear from PS3 fans is that 360 will never reach PS3´s graphic level, PS3 exclusives are miles better than anything on 360, teh mighty cell this and that, etc, etc....Thats overhype imo

My point is that while lems accept both consoles are the same, cows are arrogant enough to think PS3 is far better...:?

PAL360

Proven by who? Link?

Lemmings need to wake up.

Claiming games like Halo: Reach and Alan Wake (just like every game released)being instant graphics kings is both funny and sad at the same time.

It seems that fans have been waiting for these games for so long that they do not want to see the flaws, but when you spoon feed others your delusions its plain annoying.

Halo: Reach looks just like ODST and 3 with better character models, its no crysis or kz2 killer, sorry! Good thing it still has great gameplay.

Alan wake looksgood but is being way overhyped. Almost on par with Gears 2 and RE5 but with a bouncy framerate and massive screen-tear, its meh.

This post is not to piss off anyone, its actually meant for everyone, to accept the fact that games (even ifthey areon your favorite system) have flaws, andaint instantly the best at everything, especiallyifa game isn't out.

Peace.

lucky_star

pretty much everybody overhypes

dunno why you singled out lems

cows are the worst at overhyping

You're judging Halo Reach's graphics off alpha stage?

You're judging Halo Reach's graphics off alpha stage?

mitu123

Yeah it's almost as bad as how cows immediately hype every game announced as exclusive to be AMAZING, GUARANTEED AAA.... and slap them on their exclusive lists as reasons why PS3 >>> 360. ie: Heavy Rain... White Knight Chronicles.... Lair... Haze... etc.

moistsandwich

KZ3 will score AAAAA and be the only perfect game in existence.

Though Wake & Reach ( hey cool name for a game ;) ) will come close scoring AAAA.

Yeah, I too wish people would just be a bit more realistic. :P

KZ3 will score AAAAA and be the only perfect game in existence.

Though Wake & Reach ( hey cool name for a game ;) ) will come close scoring AAAA.

Yeah, I too wish people would just be a bit more realistic. :P

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

KZ3 will score AAAAA and be the only perfect game in existence.

Though Wake & Reach ( hey cool name for a game ;) ) will come close scoring AAAA.

Yeah, I too wish people would just be a bit more realistic. :P

peaceoutmedusa

:P

KZ3 will score AAAAA and be the only perfect game in existence.

Though Wake & Reach ( hey cool name for a game ;) ) will come close scoring AAAA.

Yeah, I too wish people would just be a bit more realistic. :P

All this about graphics. Sure I like to have great graphics in my games but I think gameplay is more important. I don't see the reason not to hype a game you think is going to turn out great.