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#1 -Ichigo1987-
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I see a lot of people posting this same crap picture on Gamespot. Everyone knows the game looks nothing like this on an HDTV. Why can't hater just admit its an awesome looking game and move on.:evil:

The game doesn't look better than Crysis, but it is without a doubt the best looking game on consoles until Killzone 2 releases. Here's some screens representing what the game truly looks like when you play it.

I don't want to hear no "buh buh teh off screen shots". The truth is off screenshot represents a games graphics better because a regular screenshot can't capture what a game really looks like in person. So with that said, stop the hate on the graphics and the game itself. Gamespot didn't give the game AAAA and graphics of the year their health:?

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#2 SoNin360
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Graphics look just fine to me... seen it in 720P too there's nothing to complain about.
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#3 doll94
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i own the game and i dont think its the best looking game ive got
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#4 b3yondstupidity
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The graphics ain't so bad, mine don't look as bad as the first pic? Maybe they need to fix there screen settings?
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#5 -DrRobotnik-
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I love MGS4, in fact ive only just begun to replay it again (just met Meryl) but its is NOT the best looking console game out there. Some parts do look fantastic, but its let down it too many areas as well. Textures for one. Some textures look great, but i couldnt help but notice while sneaking about that some boxes and walls have N64 era textures...well maybe not that bad, but you get what i mean. Foilage also looks a bit iffy at times, resulting in Act 2 probably being the ugliest. And dont take this as me hating on MGS4, i just dont see how people can think its looks amazing. Uncharted definitely looks better.
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#6 tktomo01
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No one in their right mind hates MGS4 graphics, they just want to look like they have the most powerful tech. BTW, I didn't think those screens you took were very good. In fact, my MGS4 looks way better than that.
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#7 Floppy_Jim
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It does look mighty fine but I don't know about best looking console game. And now I have an urge to replay it.
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#8 Couth_
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I think it's the best looking game out right now. That motorcycle chase in act 3 just looked so good
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#9 Master-Thief-09
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#10 -Ichigo1987-
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No one in their right mind hates MGS4 graphics, they just want to look like they have the most powerful tech. BTW, I didn't think those screens you took were very good. In fact, my MGS4 looks way better than that.tktomo01

There's more screens at the bottom that shows what the game really looks like when you play it.

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#12 BioShockOwnz
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I'm not an MGS4 fan, but I'll be nice. MGS4 is a great looking game. I think Gears 2, Uncharted, Mirror's Edge, and some other games look better. but MGS4 is still a top notch title, especially when it comes to the character models.
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#13 irish4eva
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does aanyone think thaat those geow2 shots look horrible?lol
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#14 Floppy_Jim
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^You should edit that, quoting a whole chain of pics is naughty :shock: As for MGS4 and Gears 2, it's close. I couldn't really choose between the 2.
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#15 crazy-player
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Ok, so you post an in-game pic saying that it doesn't look like that on an HDTV. Then you post off-screen screenshots, and claim that it looks like that...

Sorry, try again.

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#16 Couth_
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It doesn't get much better than this. It's like your playing a cutscene

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/35069.html

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#18 -Ichigo1987-
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Ok, so you post an in-game pic saying that it doesn't look like that on an HDTV. Then you post off-screen screenshots, and claim that it looks like that...

Sorry, try again.

crazy-player

Have you heard of a little something called good and bad screenshots:roll:

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#19 -Ichigo1987-
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[QUOTE="irish4eva"]does aanyone think thaat those geow2 shots look horrible?lolBioShockOwnz

Yes. They're called cows. Or they simply need new glasses. One or the other. Anyone who says those look "horrible" do not deserve to talk, period. I'm all for opinions, but only when they don't cross into the mentally unstable territory.

I think Gears looks phenomenal, its 2nd only to MGS4 in my book.

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#20 quicksilverXP24
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Who care what anyone thinks about the graphics... there is always going to be a debate. The one thing there will never be a debate about is that MGS4 is a MUCH better game than GEOW 2. I did enjoy both though.
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#21 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="irish4eva"]does aanyone think thaat those geow2 shots look horrible?lol-Ichigo1987-

Yes. They're called cows. Or they simply need new glasses. One or the other. Anyone who says those look "horrible" do not deserve to talk, period. I'm all for opinions, but only when they don't cross into the mentally unstable territory.

I think Gears looks phenomenal, its 2nd only to MGS4 in my book.

And I appreciate that. When we put all the fanboy crap to rest (I'm part of the problem :P), both games look fantastic.

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#22 crazy-player
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[QUOTE="crazy-player"]

Ok, so you post an in-game pic saying that it doesn't look like that on an HDTV. Then you post off-screen screenshots, and claim that it looks like that...

Sorry, try again.

-Ichigo1987-

Have you heard of a little something called good and bad screenshots:roll:

That's an in-game screenshot, what do you mean by bad? It's taken straight from the game. And have you heard of a little something called that taking off-screen pics make the game look alot better?
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#23 nVidiaGaMer
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Gears 2 is the only game that comes close but MGS 4's realtime cutscenese still look better imo.

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#24 f50p90
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It doesn't get much better than this. It's like your playing a cutscene

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/35069.html

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That scene is proof MGS4 cutscenes=gameplay
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#25 Chaos_HL21
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Um,Yes Shiny doesn't equal better graphics:? If Gears graphics were so great, wouldn't it had won best graphics instead of MGS4? (Crysis was omited for winning last year)

-Ichigo1987-

If Crysis: Warhead was omited for winning then why was it nominated?

MGS 4 has great graphics, but not the best on the consoles, There are anumber of games that look better.

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#26 nVidiaGaMer
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[QUOTE="-Ichigo1987-"]

Um,Yes Shiny doesn't equal better graphics:? If Gears graphics were so great, wouldn't it had won best graphics instead of MGS4? (Crysis was omited for winning last year)

Chaos_HL21

If Crysis: Warhead was omited for winning then why was it nominated?

MGS 4 has great graphics, but not the best on the consoles, There are anumber of games that look better.

If you talking straight up graphics then it should of been Gran Turismo 5: Prologue or Fight Night Round 3. But MGS 4 is one of the best.

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#27 Trigger_Hppy
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MGS4 won because it has the best character/cut-scene animations in any game this gen. That is practically irrefutable, seeing how its using the in-game engine. I strongly argue that Gears of War 2 does in fact look better with the environments/textures, but just barely. Thus, you have MGS4 KILLING Gears in character animation, and Gears winning SLIGHTLY in environmental/textures. Its not that hard to see why MGS4 won. Lay down the pitchforks and fire, and think for a moment.
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#28 Fumpa
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What hate? It's been a while since I've seen a post about how good or bad the graphics are. How about "Stop with the MGS4 topics already". Move on. And those Gears 2 pictures posted look better than the MGS4 ones. Not sure if any of these are doctored, but it's pretty obvious from the provided pictures in the topic which looks better. Again though not sure if any were enhanced.
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#29 millerlight89
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Give it up cows, Gears 2 looks better than MGS4, I have played both, but I am a PC gamer so I know a little about graphics and MGS4 is a little above average at best.
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#30 Trigger_Hppy
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Give it up cows, Gears 2 looks better than MGS4, I have played both, but I am a PC gamer so I know a little about graphics and MGS4 is a little above average at best.millerlight89

Have you seen the character animations and facial expressions? Are you serious?

Edit: Oh, and just in general, why does no one mention Far Cry II as graphics king right now? The sheer scope coupled with the great graphics makes me appreciate it more than Gears' tight corridors. Also, why isn't Prince of Persia mentioned either? The whole graphics argument confuses me...

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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Give it up cows, Gears 2 looks better than MGS4, I have played both, but I am a PC gamer so I know a little about graphics and MGS4 is a little above average at best.Trigger_Hppy

Have you seen the character animations and facial expressions? Are you serious?

The character models are nice, but really Gears looks soooooo much better than MGS4 in every other department there is no contest. So yes I am serious.
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#32 -Ichigo1987-
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[QUOTE="-Ichigo1987-"]

Um,Yes Shiny doesn't equal better graphics:? If Gears graphics were so great, wouldn't it had won best graphics instead of MGS4? (Crysis was omited for winning last year)

Chaos_HL21

If Crysis: Warhead was omited for winning then why was it nominated?

MGS 4 has great graphics, but not the best on the consoles, There are anumber of games that look better.

Well you got me there, in that case I don't know why MGS4 won. Maybe it had to do with artsyle as well and the presentation going from cutscene to gameplay. I'm only talking MGS4 in contrast to console games anyway and it came out on top over the other console games.

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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Give it up cows, Gears 2 looks better than MGS4, I have played both, but I am a PC gamer so I know a little about graphics and MGS4 is a little above average at best.Trigger_Hppy

Have you seen the character animations and facial expressions? Are you serious?

Edit: Oh, and just in general, why does no one mention Far Cry II as graphics king right now? The sheer scope coupled with the great graphics makes me appreciate it more than Gears' tight corridors. Also, why isn't Prince of Persia mentioned either? The whole graphics argument confuses me...

Because it's multiplat. Always happens. I also thought FC2 looked amazing.
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#34 Couth_
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Give it up cows, Gears 2 looks better than MGS4, I have played both, but I am a PC gamer so I know a little about graphics and MGS4 is a little above average at best.millerlight89
So? I am a PC gamer too, and I think MGS4 looks better than Gears 2. And so does gamespot, and IGN
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Give it up cows, Gears 2 looks better than MGS4, I have played both, but I am a PC gamer so I know a little about graphics and MGS4 is a little above average at best.Trigger_Hppy

Have you seen the character animations and facial expressions? Are you serious?

Edit: Oh, and just in general, why does no one mention Far Cry II as graphics king right now? The sheer scope coupled with the great graphics makes me appreciate it more than Gears' tight corridors. Also, why isn't Prince of Persia mentioned either? The whole graphics argument confuses me...

Far Cry 2 is not that impressive on PC, and even less so on consoles, its really is not that impressive.
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#38 nVidiaGaMer
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[QUOTE="Trigger_Hppy"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Give it up cows, Gears 2 looks better than MGS4, I have played both, but I am a PC gamer so I know a little about graphics and MGS4 is a little above average at best.millerlight89

Have you seen the character animations and facial expressions? Are you serious?

Edit: Oh, and just in general, why does no one mention Far Cry II as graphics king right now? The sheer scope coupled with the great graphics makes me appreciate it more than Gears' tight corridors. Also, why isn't Prince of Persia mentioned either? The whole graphics argument confuses me...

Far Cry 2 is not that impressive on PC, and even less so on consoles, its really is not that impressive.

I think Far Cry 2 is more technically impressive then Crysis (not graphically) but it has real time fire, more destruction, and so much more that Crysis is lacking. Plus its well optimized I max it with full AA while Crysis crashes on my PC with AA.

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#39 -Ichigo1987-
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[QUOTE="Trigger_Hppy"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Give it up cows, Gears 2 looks better than MGS4, I have played both, but I am a PC gamer so I know a little about graphics and MGS4 is a little above average at best.millerlight89

Have you seen the character animations and facial expressions? Are you serious?

The character models are nice, but really Gears looks soooooo much better than MGS4 in every other department there is no contest. So yes I am serious.

No, technically, MGS4 looks better. Its close though. However, you're entitled to your opinion.

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#40 Trigger_Hppy
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[QUOTE="Trigger_Hppy"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Give it up cows, Gears 2 looks better than MGS4, I have played both, but I am a PC gamer so I know a little about graphics and MGS4 is a little above average at best.millerlight89

Have you seen the character animations and facial expressions? Are you serious?

Edit: Oh, and just in general, why does no one mention Far Cry II as graphics king right now? The sheer scope coupled with the great graphics makes me appreciate it more than Gears' tight corridors. Also, why isn't Prince of Persia mentioned either? The whole graphics argument confuses me...

Far Cry 2 is not that impressive on PC, and even less so on consoles, its really is not that impressive.

Someone is starting to be a negative-nancy...

All games mentioned here look great, and are at the top of their class. Stop trying to act all superior with your ultra-high standards. It gets annoying after a time.

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#41 crazy-player
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Trigger_Hppy"]

Have you seen the character animations and facial expressions? Are you serious?

-Ichigo1987-

The character models are nice, but really Gears looks soooooo much better than MGS4 in every other department there is no contest. So yes I am serious.

No, technically, MGS4 looks better. Its close though. However, you're entitled to your opinion.

How does MGS4 "technically" look better?
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#42 flclempire
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Looks fine to me, but dark shadows don't equal good graphics. But it does look good.
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#43 Trigger_Hppy
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[QUOTE="-Ichigo1987-"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] The character models are nice, but really Gears looks soooooo much better than MGS4 in every other department there is no contest. So yes I am serious.crazy-player

No, technically, MGS4 looks better. Its close though. However, you're entitled to your opinion.

How does MGS4 "technically" look better?

I respond again: cut-scenes and facial animations! They're great! Environments are slightly (could be argued up to moderately with some doing, but nothing more) better on Gears, animations are HUGELY better in MGS4. Hugely beats slightly/moderately, and MGS4 wins.

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#44 -Ichigo1987-
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[QUOTE="-Ichigo1987-"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] The character models are nice, but really Gears looks soooooo much better than MGS4 in every other department there is no contest. So yes I am serious.crazy-player

No, technically, MGS4 looks better. Its close though. However, you're entitled to your opinion.

How does MGS4 "technically" look better?

Everything else besides textures, I have both games. Try playing the end of act 3 in mgs4 and you'll see what I mean. MGS4 has better detail, animation, and effects.

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#45 crazy-player
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[QUOTE="crazy-player"][QUOTE="-Ichigo1987-"]

No, technically, MGS4 looks better. Its close though. However, you're entitled to your opinion.

Trigger_Hppy

How does MGS4 "technically" look better?

I respond again: cut-scenes and facial animations! They're great! Environments are slightly (could be argued up to moderately with some doing, but nothing more) better on Gears, animations are HUGELY better in MGS4. Hugely beats slightly/moderately, and MGS4 wins.

Well I guess its a matter of opinion. I've seen screens of both, and Gears 2 has better textures, and environments. I have to say I don't really like the men character models, they are way too big, looks like they take steroids :P. I do like how MGS4 looks more realistic next to Gears 2, I like the character models more and the look of the game, the cutscenes do look great. It seems like MGS4 looks better in motion, because the screenshots don't look too impressive, I'll have to see when I finally get to play the game.
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#46 Master-Thief-09
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[QUOTE="crazy-player"][QUOTE="-Ichigo1987-"]

No, technically, MGS4 looks better. Its close though. However, you're entitled to your opinion.

-Ichigo1987-

How does MGS4 "technically" look better?

Everything else besides textures, I have both games. Try playing the end of act 3 in mgs4 and you'll see what I mean. MGS4 has better detail, animation, and effects.

Sure, oldest line in the book.

Oh, and aren't you the same guy who thinks Crysis is nothing special graphically?

I'll take you opinion with a grain of salt.

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#47 Trigger_Hppy
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[QUOTE="Trigger_Hppy"][QUOTE="crazy-player"] How does MGS4 "technically" look better?crazy-player

I respond again: cut-scenes and facial animations! They're great! Environments are slightly (could be argued up to moderately with some doing, but nothing more) better on Gears, animations are HUGELY better in MGS4. Hugely beats slightly/moderately, and MGS4 wins.

Well I guess its a matter of opinion. I've seen screens of both, and Gears 2 has better textures, and environments. I have to say I don't really like the men character models, they are way too big, looks like they take steroids :P. I do like how MGS4 looks more realistic next to Gears 2, I like the character models more and the look of it, the cutscenes do look great. It looks like MGS4 looks better in motion, because the screenshots don't look too impressive.

I will admit that the two are close enough to warrant debate and discussion, its just that I'm fairly certain only one side is correct. :P

The other side could put up a fight, though (which has been going on, and on, and on, and on...).

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#48 ActicEdge
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I see a lot of people posting this same crap picture on Gamespot. Everyone knows the game looks nothing like this on an HDTV. Why can't hater just admit its an awesome looking game and move on.:evil:

The game doesn't look better than Crysis, but it is without a doubt the best looking game on consoles until Killzone 2 releases. Here's some screens representing what the game truly looks like when you play it.

I don't want to hear no "buh buh teh off screen shots". The truth is off screenshot represents a games graphics better because a regular screenshot can't capture what a game really looks like in person. So with that said, stop the hate on the graphics and the game itself. Gamespot didn't give the game AAAA and graphics of the year their health:?

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I've got one for you TC. Tell the cows to stop harassing the board with the presence of a game that released more than 5 months ago. Stop tallking about it, stop showing us screens, stop yelling in our faces about how great MGS4 is. Stop informing me of the exsistance of a game that is talked about so much I can't forget it. The cows are getting as annoying as the sheep were with their SMGOTY campaign. Please stop this crap, its annoying as ****.

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#49 crazy-player
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[QUOTE="-Ichigo1987-"]

I see a lot of people posting this same crap picture on Gamespot. Everyone knows the game looks nothing like this on an HDTV. Why can't hater just admit its an awesome looking game and move on.:evil:

The game doesn't look better than Crysis, but it is without a doubt the best looking game on consoles until Killzone 2 releases. Here's some screens representing what the game truly looks like when you play it.

*pic*

I don't want to hear no "buh buh teh off screen shots". The truth is off screenshot represents a games graphics better because a regular screenshot can't capture what a game really looks like in person. So with that said, stop the hate on the graphics and the game itself. Gamespot didn't give the game AAAA and graphics of the year their health:?

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I've got one for you TC. Tell the cows to stop harassing the board with the presence of a game that released more than 5 months ago. Stop tallking about it, stop showing us screens, stop yelling in our faces about how great MGS4 is. Stop informing me of the exsistance of a game that is talked about so much I can't forget it. The cows are getting as annoying as the sheep were with their SMGOTY campaign. Please stop this crap, its annoying as ****.

You know, you can just ignore this thread, and any other one that involves MGS4... just don't post in it and your problems are solved.
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#50 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"][QUOTE="-Ichigo1987-"]

I see a lot of people posting this same crap picture on Gamespot. Everyone knows the game looks nothing like this on an HDTV. Why can't hater just admit its an awesome looking game and move on.:evil:

The game doesn't look better than Crysis, but it is without a doubt the best looking game on consoles until Killzone 2 releases. Here's some screens representing what the game truly looks like when you play it.

*pic*

I don't want to hear no "buh buh teh off screen shots". The truth is off screenshot represents a games graphics better because a regular screenshot can't capture what a game really looks like in person. So with that said, stop the hate on the graphics and the game itself. Gamespot didn't give the game AAAA and graphics of the year their health:?

crazy-player

I've got one for you TC. Tell the cows to stop harassing the board with the presence of a game that released more than 5 months ago. Stop tallking about it, stop showing us screens, stop yelling in our faces about how great MGS4 is. Stop informing me of the exsistance of a game that is talked about so much I can't forget it. The cows are getting as annoying as the sheep were with their SMGOTY campaign. Please stop this crap, its annoying as ****.

You know, you can just ignore this thread, and any other one that involves MGS4... just don't post in it and your problems are solved.

If it was that easy I would have done it already. You can't go anywhere in this forum without hearing about MGS. More so, are you all for the amount of MGS talk or are you just annoyed that I wasn't positive about the game. The hipopcracy is just unbeleivable, its like people forget so quickly. The cows were so fast to attack the sheep for constantly flashing SMG in every situation and now they do the exact same thing. The bothersome part was that when I was reading all the SMGOTY comments I was getting pissed off about how it was a shield to every arguement. Now the cows do it and forget what they were aattacking sheep for doing and I'm stuck watching it again. (sigh)