Stop the MGS4 Graphics Hate!

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#51 -Ichigo1987-
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[QUOTE="-Ichigo1987-"][QUOTE="crazy-player"] How does MGS4 "technically" look better?Master-Thief-09

Everything else besides textures, I have both games. Try playing the end of act 3 in mgs4 and you'll see what I mean. MGS4 has better detail, animation, and effects.

Sure, oldest line in the book.

Oh, and aren't you the same guy who thinks Crysis is nothing special graphically?

I'll take you opinion with a grain of salt.

wow someone is thirsty for ownage huh. that opinion was back before i saw high res screens of Crysis. I was basing that opinion off of vids from gametrailers. You wouldve discovered that if you read further into the thread, nice try though.
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#53 KGB32
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dont own, but i think they look amazing
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#54 masterflame10
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I do think the overall presentation of the graphics in GeOW II is more impressive... however, I also believe MGS4 has the superior facial(?) graphics over GeOW II.
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#55 100000
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I wouldn't call GoW2's graphics "better" than MGS4's or vice versa.

They are just different. Both look fantastic in their own way.

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#56 EndorphinMaster
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MGS4 looks good, but not as good as people say imo. Uncharted and Gears 2 look better
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#57 WAIW
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The game's graphics get too much hate and too much praise, if that makes sense. It looks amazing -- posting a couple crappy screenshots can't change that -- but it's far from the best looking console game out there.

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#58 -DrRobotnik-
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The game's graphics get too much hate and too much praise, if that makes sense. It looks amazing -- posting a couple crappy screenshots can't change that -- but it's far from the best looking console game out there.

WAIW
Exactly. Its in the top 5 i'd say, but its not No. 1
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#59 -Ichigo1987-
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[QUOTE="WAIW"]

The game's graphics get too much hate and too much praise, if that makes sense. It looks amazing -- posting a couple crappy screenshots can't change that -- but it's far from the best looking console game out there.

-DrRobotnik-
Exactly. Its in the top 5 i'd say, but its not No. 1

wow, just wow. you lose all credibility man. name 4 games that looks better than mgs4. the only games that comes close is mirrors edge, uncharted, and gears 2. Mgs4 is above the others though, gamespot and ign agree. there are no other games in the same league as these 3 let alone mgs4
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#60 crazy-player
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"][QUOTE="WAIW"]

The game's graphics get too much hate and too much praise, if that makes sense. It looks amazing -- posting a couple crappy screenshots can't change that -- but it's far from the best looking console game out there.

-Ichigo1987-
Exactly. Its in the top 5 i'd say, but its not No. 1

wow, just wow. you lose all credibility man. name 4 games that looks better than mgs4. the only games that comes close is mirrors edge and gears 2. there are no other games in the same league as these 3 let alone mgs4

1. Crysis Warhead (of course) 2. Killzone 2 3. Resident Evil 5 4.Gears 2 (This is arguable) 5. Mirror's Edge (As you said...)
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#61 -DrRobotnik-
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"][QUOTE="WAIW"]

The game's graphics get too much hate and too much praise, if that makes sense. It looks amazing -- posting a couple crappy screenshots can't change that -- but it's far from the best looking console game out there.

-Ichigo1987-
Exactly. Its in the top 5 i'd say, but its not No. 1

wow, just wow. you lose all credibility man. name 4 games that looks better than mgs4. the only games that comes close is mirrors edge, uncharted, and gears 2. Mgs4 is above the others though, gamespot and ign agree. there are no other games in the same league as these 3 let alone mgs4

Where did i say it was No5? Learn to read, i said in the top 5. Uncharted for one definitely looks better. Gears 2, im not so sure.
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#62 -Ichigo1987-
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[QUOTE="crazy-player"][QUOTE="-Ichigo1987-"][QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"] Exactly. Its in the top 5 i'd say, but its not No. 1

wow, just wow. you lose all credibility man. name 4 games that looks better than mgs4. the only games that comes close is mirrors edge and gears 2. there are no other games in the same league as these 3 let alone mgs4

1. Crysis Warhead (of course) 2. Killzone 2 3. Resident Evil 5 4.Gears 2 (This is arguable) 5. Mirror's Edge (As you said...)

well of course Killzone2 and RE5 looks better. Theyre 2009 games. I was talking about CONSOLE grfx by the way.
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#63 crazy-player
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[QUOTE="-Ichigo1987-"][QUOTE="crazy-player"][QUOTE="-Ichigo1987-"] wow, just wow. you lose all credibility man. name 4 games that looks better than mgs4. the only games that comes close is mirrors edge and gears 2. there are no other games in the same league as these 3 let alone mgs4

1. Crysis Warhead (of course) 2. Killzone 2 3. Resident Evil 5 4.Gears 2 (This is arguable) 5. Mirror's Edge (As you said...)

well of course Killzone2 and RE5 looks better. Theyre 2099 games. I was talking about CONSOLE grfx by the way.

Ok, so there's your 4, without Crysis. Add Uncharted 1 & 2 to that list, and you've got 6 games that look better than MGS4.
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#64 nVidiaGaMer
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[QUOTE="-Ichigo1987-"][QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"] Exactly. Its in the top 5 i'd say, but its not No. 1crazy-player
wow, just wow. you lose all credibility man. name 4 games that looks better than mgs4. the only games that comes close is mirrors edge and gears 2. there are no other games in the same league as these 3 let alone mgs4

1. Crysis Warhead (of course) 2. Killzone 2 3. Resident Evil 5 4.Gears 2 (This is arguable) 5. Mirror's Edge (As you said...)

No in terms of looking "photo realistic" Gran Turismo 5 is #1. In terms of technical graphics it could be either Crysis, Far Cry 2, MGS 4, or Killzone 2.

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#65 Master-Thief-09
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Opinion vs opinion. This will never end.
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#66 -Ichigo1987-
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[QUOTE="-Ichigo1987-"][QUOTE="crazy-player"] 1. Crysis Warhead (of course) 2. Killzone 2 3. Resident Evil 5 4.Gears 2 (This is arguable) 5. Mirror's Edge (As you said...)crazy-player
well of course Killzone2 and RE5 looks better. Theyre 2099 games. I was talking about CONSOLE grfx by the way.

Ok, so there's your 4, without Crysis. Add Uncharted 1 & 2 to that list, and you've got 6 games that look better than MGS4.

You already know I was talking about games out now:roll:

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#67 crazy-player
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[QUOTE="crazy-player"][QUOTE="-Ichigo1987-"] well of course Killzone2 and RE5 looks better. Theyre 2099 games. I was talking about CONSOLE grfx by the way.-Ichigo1987-

Ok, so there's your 4, without Crysis. Add Uncharted 1 & 2 to that list, and you've got 6 games that look better than MGS4.

You already know I was talking about games out now:roll:

No, I wasn't aware of that, you never mentioned it. Does it even matter? They look better. I still provided a list of 3 games that look better than MGS4 that are already out: 1. Gears 2 2. Mirror's Edge 3. Uncharted
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#68 Sigmaan
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No...sorry but Gears 2 looks better then MGS4 in all aspects

In fact I could probably think of 20 games that have better visuals then MGS4 beside Gears 2

And overall Gears 2 was the better game as well

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#69 ExplosiveChorro
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Textures look like barf, but everything else is pretty dam good.
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#70 cainetao11
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I love MGS4, in fact ive only just begun to replay it again (just met Meryl) but its is NOT the best looking console game out there. Some parts do look fantastic, but its let down it too many areas as well. Textures for one. Some textures look great, but i couldnt help but notice while sneaking about that some boxes and walls have N64 era textures...well maybe not that bad, but you get what i mean. Foilage also looks a bit iffy at times, resulting in Act 2 probably being the ugliest. And dont take this as me hating on MGS4, i just dont see how people can think its looks amazing. Uncharted definitely looks better.-DrRobotnik-
Oh we have a winner! Uncharted is, imo, still the best looking console game out there. And my personal favorite PS3 game. Love MGS, but the graphics are good, not mind blowing.
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#71 crazy-player
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No...sorry but Gears 2 looks better then MGS4 in all aspects

In fact I could probably think of 20 games that have better visuals then MGS4 beside Gears 2

And overall Gears 2 was the better game as well

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Name 20 games.
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The game is hardly impressive to me. You can tout MGS4 graphics if ye' want, but it's definitely not the best looking 2008 title -- nor is it even in the top 5.
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#73 StealthKnife
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most realistric graphics ive ever seen(killzobe 2 will be next) then uncharted 2)

(gears 2 looks good but... not realistic... the people look like tree trunks with nerf guns)

and halo is buff powerrangers hoping around

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#74 -Ichigo1987-
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The game is hardly impressive to me. You can tout MGS4 graphics if ye' want, but it's definitely not the best looking 2008 title -- nor is it even in the top 5.Stevo_the_gamer

*steals Stevo's drugs* *lights it up* "ahh, thats some good ****" -2 hrs later- "ohhh, ok Steivoh, now Geurs2 luks ta betta thin all teh oda games, MGEESfour graphics isn't even in tah top 50"

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The game is hardly impressive to me. You can tout MGS4 graphics if ye' want, but it's definitely not the best looking 2008 title -- nor is it even in the top 5.Stevo_the_gamer

Well I guess you have not played the game and watched the cut scenes since they are the best real time cutscenes.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]The game is hardly impressive to me. You can tout MGS4 graphics if ye' want, but it's definitely not the best looking 2008 title -- nor is it even in the top 5.nVidiaGaMer

Well I guess you have not played the game and watched the cut scenes since they are the best real time cutscenes.

With a name like nVidiaGamer how the **** can you think MGS4 has better graphics than Crysis? :|
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#77 Eddie-Vedder
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When you factor everything in, animations, character detail, polish I find MGS4 is easily the most impressive console games graphically, Uncharted is second gears is third imo.
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#78 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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Game dosent look all that special IMO. Alot of game look better then MGS4.
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#79 atarigrad
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It's graphics only suffer from a dull palette. It's snake pole up his ass animation that is more disturbing.
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#80 Jamiemydearx3
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I own the game, and it isnt graphically impressive. Atleast not while your playing the game, the cutscenes look good though.

Still not as impressive as some games on PC.

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#81 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]The game is hardly impressive to me. You can tout MGS4 graphics if ye' want, but it's definitely not the best looking 2008 title -- nor is it even in the top 5.Aljosa23

Well I guess you have not played the game and watched the cut scenes since they are the best real time cutscenes.

With a name like nVidiaGamer how the **** can you think MGS4 has better graphics than Crysis? :|

Because he's the same guy who believes Crysis' graphics are, and I quote: "outdated". I'd take what he says with a grain of salt.
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#82 NAPK1NS
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I think it looks freaking amazing to me... and so far that's been good enough.
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

Well I guess you have not played the game and watched the cut scenes since they are the best real time cutscenes.

Stevo_the_gamer

With a name like nVidiaGamer how the **** can you think MGS4 has better graphics than Crysis? :|

Because he's the same guy who believes Crysis' graphics are, and I quote: "outdated". I'd take what he says with a grain of salt.

MGS4 won best technical grap8)hics on this site nuff said.8)

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#84 nVidiaGaMer
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

Well I guess you have not played the game and watched the cut scenes since they are the best real time cutscenes.

Stevo_the_gamer

With a name like nVidiaGamer how the **** can you think MGS4 has better graphics than Crysis? :|

Because he's the same guy who believes Crysis' graphics are, and I quote: "outdated". I'd take what he says with a grain of salt.

Just have a look at the screen shot on my page of Crysis. I'll be posting more. MGS 4 is just as good.

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#85 McdonaIdsGuy
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Nope Gears 2 and Uncharted look better.
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#86 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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MGS4 won best technical grap8)hics on this site nuff said.8)

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Is that sarcasm... or do you place all your trust in this "partial" website?
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#87 EndorphinMaster
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]With a name like nVidiaGamer how the **** can you think MGS4 has better graphics than Crysis? :|Afro_Samurai1
Because he's the same guy who believes Crysis' graphics are, and I quote: "outdated". I'd take what he says with a grain of salt.

MGS4 won best technical grap8)hics on this site nuff said.8)

while other games won best graphics on other sites. you can't use opinions as facts

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#89 Head_of_games
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Not that I care, but in the third image you posted the gun looks quite ugly.
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#90 DonPerian
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Comparisons aside, the game has amazing graphics. Can we leave it at that?
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#91 SpinoRaptor24
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MGS4 is a beautiful game, but there are many games out there that exceed it's graphics.

And stop posting off-screen shots.

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#92 Hellboard
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not really they are consolish look at crysis or far cry 2 the look better or fallout 3.. oops i forgot it looks bad in ps3 because ps3 doesnt support its rendering method, thats my point.... mgs4 graphics are as consolish as the previous mgs games, not next gen.
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#93 Nerd_Man
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I see a lot of people posting this same crap picture on Gamespot. Everyone knows the game looks nothing like this on an HDTV. Why can't hater just admit its an awesome looking game and move on.:evil:

-Ichigo1987-

I just started playing Metal Gear Solid 4 from start to finsish again yesterday after beating it last August, so the graphics are very fresh in my mind... All I'm gonna say is, even on my crappy Non-HD TV, it looks WAY better than that.

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#94 wagexslave
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The graphics are simply overrated. Maybe if MGS4 fans would stop acting like they're something special, others would stop hating.
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#95 Eyezonmii
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enough with the off-screen shots, they prove nothing since they hide flaws and make the games look better (small/dark images)
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#96 Eyezonmii
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MGS4 is a beautiful game, but there are many games out there that exceed it's graphics.

And stop posting off-screen shots.

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Not character detail or cut scene face model-wise...but everything else, pretty much.
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#97 Eyezonmii
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Nope Gears 2 and Uncharted look better.McdonaIdsGuy
Starting to agree, besides the highly impressive character face models/cutscenes, the rest is average and uncharted and gears of war 2 beat it.
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#98 manicfoot
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*shrug* the graphics are okay. They just didn't have the wow factor MGS1 and 2 had when they came out.
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#99 SapSacPrime
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MGS4 selling point isn't its graphics, uncharted and gears both top it in the graphics department. MGS games have one thing in common if nothing else, its the overall high quality of every element which comes together to form an awesome experience, but if you single out graphics and compare it to other games it wont win every battle.

Why cant a game be your favourite this gen with out it having the graphics king trophy?

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#100 Hellboard
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MGS4 selling point isn't its graphics, uncharted and gears both top it in the graphics department. MGS games have one thing in common if nothing else, its the overall high quality of every element which comes together to form an awesome experience, but if you single out graphics and compare it to other games it wont win every battle.

Why cant a game be your favorite this gen with out it having the graphics king trophy?

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:lol: because it did get unfairly the graphics trophy while there are hundreds of other games with better graphics its all about marketing isnt it?