Street Fighter 4 ~ PLEASE stop playing as Ken

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street fighter ripped off mortal kombats combos, the first/second street fighter games had no combos.

mortal kombat will always be the better fighting game, street fighters for noobs.

SolidTy

SF2, which Mortal Kombat ripped off years later, had combos, lol.
SF1 had combos, but I don't need to go there, because SF2 did it first, lol.

FIREBALL-****TYPE motions you see in games, Quarter Circle Back, QCF...ALL BECAUSE OF SF.

Konami (Castlevania), Sega (Virtua Fighter), Namco (Tekken, Soul Calibur), Midway (Mortal Kombat) and many other developers owe SF.

Nope that's false, street fighter ripped off mortal kombat, street fighter never told you hit count untill mk did.

I remember back in the day lol arcades in malls i used to go into them when i was a kid, but you'd see crowds of people around mortal kombat machines and nobody around street fighter.

was very funny, mortal kombat was the definitive fighter.

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[QUOTE="MightyMuna"][QUOTE="banbanbanban"]

lol i remember playing street fighter at burgerking back in the day, i used to rent it for super nintendo also.

but yes, the game's ripped off double dragon, except you just fight 1 dude instead of many lol.

this game does suck though, capcom is a crappy developer one of the most overrated some of their games are alright, but they havent evolved with the times, still recycling gameplay from 20 years ago.

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no

[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="banbanbanban"]

street fighter ripped off mortal kombats combos, the first/second street fighter games had no combos.

mortal kombat will always be the better fighting game, street fighters for noobs.

banbanbanban

SF2, which Mortal Kombat ripped off years later, had combos, lol.
SF1 had combos, but I don't need to go there, because SF2 did it first, lol.

FIREBALL-****TYPE motions you see in games, Quarter Circle Back, QCF...ALL BECAUSE OF SF.

Konami (Castlevania), Sega (Virtua Fighter), Namco (Tekken, Soul Calibur), Midway (Mortal Kombat) and many other developers owe SF.

Nope that's false, street fighter ripped off mortal kombat, street fighter never told you hit count untill mk did.

So, they were still combos in SF. MK added a calculator on screen, and it's awesome now. I can count, thanks.

Funny, Boon and Tobias (Creators of MK) even said in interviews that MIDWAY wanted them to capitalize on the Street FIGHTER Craze, and rush our a quick fighter using Pit Fighter Technology. The did what Midway wanted, and MK, the SF clone but bloody, was born. lol.

It's all about E. Honda.RABicle

[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="banbanbanban"]

street fighter ripped off mortal kombats combos, the first/second street fighter games had no combos.

mortal kombat will always be the better fighting game, street fighters for noobs.

banbanbanban

SF2, which Mortal Kombat ripped off years later, had combos, lol.
SF1 had combos, but I don't need to go there, because SF2 did it first, lol.

FIREBALL-****TYPE motions you see in games, Quarter Circle Back, QCF...ALL BECAUSE OF SF.

Konami (Castlevania), Sega (Virtua Fighter), Namco (Tekken, Soul Calibur), Midway (Mortal Kombat) and many other developers owe SF.

Nope that's false, street fighter ripped off mortal kombat, street fighter never told you hit count untill mk did.

oh yea, now i remember correctly, primal rage was first game to tell you ur hit count on the combo you just did, then killer instinct, then mortal kombat 3, then street fighter.

Everyone ripped off mortal kombats fatalitys/stage fatalitys well tried to back in the day.

[QUOTE="banbanbanban"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

SF2, which Mortal Kombat ripped off years later, had combos, lol.
SF1 had combos, but I don't need to go there, because SF2 did it first, lol.

FIREBALL-****TYPE motions you see in games, Quarter Circle Back, QCF...ALL BECAUSE OF SF.

Konami (Castlevania), Sega (Virtua Fighter), Namco (Tekken, Soul Calibur), Midway (Mortal Kombat) and many other developers owe SF.

MightyMuna

Nope that's false, street fighter ripped off mortal kombat, street fighter never told you hit count untill mk did.

the street fighter on super nintendo had no combo/hit counter period same with arcade, that was street fighter 2.

[QUOTE="banbanbanban"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

SF2, which Mortal Kombat ripped off years later, had combos, lol.
SF1 had combos, but I don't need to go there, because SF2 did it first, lol.

FIREBALL-****TYPE motions you see in games, Quarter Circle Back, QCF...ALL BECAUSE OF SF.

Konami (Castlevania), Sega (Virtua Fighter), Namco (Tekken, Soul Calibur), Midway (Mortal Kombat) and many other developers owe SF.

SolidTy

Nope that's false, street fighter ripped off mortal kombat, street fighter never told you hit count untill mk did.

So, they were still combos in SF. MK added a calculator on screen, and it's awesome now. I can count, thanks.

Funny, Boon and Tobias (Creators of MK) even said in interviews that MIDWAY wanted them to capitalize on the Street FIGHTER Craze, and rush our a quick fighter using Pit Fighter Technology. The did what Midway wanted, and MK, the SF clone but bloody, was born. lol.

[QUOTE="MightyMuna"][QUOTE="banbanbanban"]

Nope that's false, street fighter ripped off mortal kombat, street fighter never told you hit count untill mk did.

banbanbanban

the street fighter on super nintendo had no combo/hit counter period same with arcade, that was street fighter 2.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="banbanbanban"]

Nope that's false, street fighter ripped off mortal kombat, street fighter never told you hit count untill mk did.

MightyMuna

So, they were still combos in SF. MK added a calculator on screen, and it's awesome now. I can count, thanks.

Funny, Boon and Tobias (Creators of MK) even said in interviews that MIDWAY wanted them to capitalize on the Street FIGHTER Craze, and rush our a quick fighter using Pit Fighter Technology. The did what Midway wanted, and MK, the SF clone but bloody, was born. lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qAPbXNq0dc

street fighter 2....where's the combos? lol there wasnt any i remember playing this game actually when it was new on snes and arcades.

primal rage 1994 was first game with combos/hit counter, that game blew me away back in the day first seeing it.

[QUOTE="banbanbanban"][QUOTE="MightyMuna"] lol, Super Street Fighter was the first game to have a hit counter. Super Street Fighter was released in 1993, Mortal Kombat 3 was released in 1995.MightyMuna

the street fighter on super nintendo had no combo/hit counter period same with arcade, that was street fighter 2.

that's remake not the original snes game.

Ken vs Sagat - Street Fighter II - SNES

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qAPbXNq0dc

That's the original release, that's the game speed i remember that's not remade crap like that one dude posted.

but notice no combos, primal rage is seriously first i remember, but killer instinct took em to next level like 64 hit combos crazy.

[QUOTE="MightyMuna"][QUOTE="banbanbanban"]

the street fighter on super nintendo had no combo/hit counter period same with arcade, that was street fighter 2.

banbanbanban

that's remake not the original snes game.

Ken vs Sagat - Street Fighter II - SNES

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qAPbXNq0dc

That's the original release, that's the game speed i remember that's not remade crap like that one dude posted.

but notice no combos, primal rage is seriously first i remember, but killer instinct took em to next level like 64 hit combos crazy.

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I bought the game with my own hard earned money, therefore I play as the character I like, not the character someone else wants me to be, by the way I play as Ryu and have done since the day I first played street fighter!

Edit: Ryu for Ranked, Anyone else for player. As I'm best with Ryu.

quite possibly the best thread system wars has ever seen? i think it just might be!

I couldn't agree more, at least on the 360 version there is an endless ssea of ken users in ranked games(i've noticed some people branch out more in player matches... but maybe i've just been lucky here?). Anyways, i've never been one to follow SF very well, so i don't know the tiers and all that.. but is Ken a top tier fighter or something? Is he broken? Why do people want to use him so much?

You're totally right about people trying to psych you out by cycling through other characters.. it's so stupid. I've also seen quite a few guys who'll highlight someone original like rufus and in the last 3 seconds run over to ken. What do they think they're doing?

I'm a Cammy user and i find fighting so many kens to be a mixed bag. The obvious new ones i can easily handle, but i'm finding that only a few slip ups on my part lead to some massive damage when i play against half decent kens. Does Cammy just suck, am i doing something wrong, or is ken really good? I know i've got alot to learn still, but i find myself having better matches against other characters.. well, the ones i've fought.

Stop complaining. Ken is not even a top tier character.

Also I don't see that many Ken players online on PSN. Maybe the 360 has a lot of noob SF players.

Anyways, I'd much prefer fighting Ken than Akuma. Now that is fireball fest.

Stop complaining. Also I don't see that many Ken players online on PSN. Maybe the 360 has a lot of noob SF players. Anyways, I'd much prefer fighting Ken than Akuma. Now that is fireball fest.Joust_

[QUOTE="Joust_"] Stop complaining. Also I don't see that many Ken players online on PSN. Maybe the 360 has a lot of noob SF players. Anyways, I'd much prefer fighting Ken than Akuma. Now that is fireball fest.UGCoat

You got a "PS3 version is superior" from that? lol ok

Maybe I'm just lucky then and I haven't encountered too many Ken users.

Wow, we have a lot of angry Ken players in here. Read my original post again, I have no problem with Ken players who know what they're doing and can actually provide a challenging and decent match online. The problem though, is that this isn't the case. Skilled Ken players are few and far between, mainly because of the massive amount of horrible players who immediately look at tier lists, scout out what other people are playing, and then follow the pack. If you know how to use your moves well, and you can properly play Ken, I'm going to enjoy the match I have with you. But if you think that a lucky hadouken and then crouching over me while spamming punches, or immediately shoryuken up every single time you fall down, as I block it each time will win you the match, then you shouldn't even bother getting online. You make the play experience feel cheap for new players, and you just annoy more seasoned players with your repetitive, predictable attacks.LittleHands134

Can't you filter your matches by battle points? That way you won't have to face noobs.

[QUOTE="UGCoat"][QUOTE="Joust_"] Stop complaining. Also I don't see that many Ken players online on PSN. Maybe the 360 has a lot of noob SF players. Anyways, I'd much prefer fighting Ken than Akuma. Now that is fireball fest.Joust_

You got a "PS3 version is superior" from that? lol ok

Maybe I'm just lucky then and I haven't encountered too many Ken users.

You are lucky :D by far most of my fights are ken(again, on the 360 version and ranked). And when they are not ken, they are akuma or ryu followed by gouken. I rarely see anybody else which sucks for me.. i was never competitive with SF(i plyaed 2 on the snes for fun and fun only) so i;m getting into the game a newbie, and i've adopted what i've heard used to be one of the worst characters(cammy).. so i'd really like to see a variety so that i can get good with her and not just against kens.

But, i still love the game. I roll my eyese whenever someone tries to "fake me out" in the character selection screen, but really i just want to fight. It's so much fun.

[QUOTE="UGCoat"][QUOTE="Joust_"] Stop complaining. Also I don't see that many Ken players online on PSN. Maybe the 360 has a lot of noob SF players. Anyways, I'd much prefer fighting Ken than Akuma. Now that is fireball fest.Joust_

You got a "PS3 version is superior" from that? lol ok

Maybe I'm just lucky then and I haven't encountered too many Ken users.

[QUOTE="LittleHands134"]Wow, we have a lot of angry Ken players in here. Read my original post again, I have no problem with Ken players who know what they're doing and can actually provide a challenging and decent match online. The problem though, is that this isn't the case. Skilled Ken players are few and far between, mainly because of the massive amount of horrible players who immediately look at tier lists, scout out what other people are playing, and then follow the pack. If you know how to use your moves well, and you can properly play Ken, I'm going to enjoy the match I have with you. But if you think that a lucky hadouken and then crouching over me while spamming punches, or immediately shoryuken up every single time you fall down, as I block it each time will win you the match, then you shouldn't even bother getting online. You make the play experience feel cheap for new players, and you just annoy more seasoned players with your repetitive, predictable attacks.Joust_

Can't you filter your matches by battle points? That way you won't have to face noobs.

That's another one of my problems with this whole situation. From what I've seen after my matches with these types of Ken players, their ratings really aren't that bad, so they must be seeing a least some success from using these cheap tactics, on either newer players or people who just got unlucky and were caught in an endless tornado of crouched punches and shoryukens.

Another thing I forgot to mention in my original post, of course while this isn't exclusive to Ken/Ryu players, I've been in many matches that are only one round and have a 30 second timer. In my experience, almost all of these matches were against Ken/Ryu players, they would open up with a hadouken or try to connect with a light punch and then jump around the match, avoiding attacks, as they wait for the timer to go down. I'm a Guile player for example, so I have no problem grabbing them in the air as they're hopping around like an ape, but it seems they do have a lot of success with this tactic. That could be another reason for why you see so many of these players with a fairly decent amount of battle points.

[QUOTE="MightyMuna"][QUOTE="Dante2710"] making assumptions FTLMakari

Ive been using ken since playing turbo on the snes so NO im not going to stop using ken.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

damn, I never thought of it that way, that was ignorant of me. I made myself look like an idiot. so to Dante2710, I apologise. if thats what you meant.MightyMuna

[QUOTE="MightyMuna"][QUOTE="UGCoat"] If you think fighting games are button mashers then its a good thing you don't play them. You'd be just another guy to own onlineDante2710

I use Cammy and find most of the Ken players a pain too... I lose to some and thats annoying because then they might think their spamming was actually good... though I've been spending all my time unlocking and not really learning Cammy as well as I should be, so I expect more victories in the future. 110million

street fighter ripped off mortal kombats combos, the first/second street fighter games had no combos.

mortal kombat will always be the better fighting game, street fighters for noobs.

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...You must be joking.

[QUOTE="Josma"][QUOTE="UGCoat"] Best game ever!UGCoat

[QUOTE="110million"]I use Cammy and find most of the Ken players a pain too... I lose to some and thats annoying because then they might think their spamming was actually good... though I've been spending all my time unlocking and not really learning Cammy as well as I should be, so I expect more victories in the future. Javy03

i know what you mean. Ken is uber annoying. unfortunately, i'm not that great at the game, so i fall into that ******* uppercut all the time. i did finally get my first ranked match victory (don't laugh - i'm sure a lot of you have won many ranked matches: but, hey, it was accomplishment for me) by beating Ken though. it made it extra sweet that i beat him using my favorite, Dhalsim :)clone01

[QUOTE="110million"]I use Cammy and find most of the Ken players a pain too... I lose to some and thats annoying because then they might think their spamming was actually good... though I've been spending all my time unlocking and not really learning Cammy as well as I should be, so I expect more victories in the future. Javy03