I honestly have zero interest in Sunset Overdrive.
Sunset Overdrive:No plans for PC right now but not ruled out
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I think some are missing the point. it's great that some have an Xbox One and your going to play it first, and it may or may not come to PC, but end of the day, the people sitting on the fence, like myself, start hearing about these exclusives coming to PC in the end, starts to make me think the Xbox One is irrelevant and for me personally there is no point in forking out on a system which seems to have very little true Exclusives and in the end most of them come out on a PC, which I have. So when I look at it, I have no desire to buy an Xbox One and for many people out there seeing this, then I cannot be the only one thinking why buy a Xbox One, when the best games are now pretty much multiplats and the only true console which keeps exclusives exclusive is the PS4.
Exclusives are the sole purpose to why people choose consoles and PC's, if there wasn't exclusives then there would be no reason to choose 1 over the other except from the look of the thing.
From reading through the thread it would appear it's confirmed but that's Only because this is SW and it just gets stupid like that. :P
Anyway, not much to care about, MS supports both PC & Xbox sooo, just saying.
In future all Xbox exclusives should have a big-ass asterisk after them.
@OhSnapitz said:
@vickissv2 said:
PC is not it's the Xbox One's main competitor. What's the problem?
The problem is.. most gamers have capable PC's (if purchased over the last few years) so this negates the reason to own a XBO.
Do you have ANY research to support that statement?
@chikenfriedrice said:
@Animal-Mother said:
@chikenfriedrice said:
@Animal-Mother said:
Why.....Why did I buy an Xbox one.... Shits seriously getting out of hand. MS can't hold on to their exclusives and this really diminishes the reasons to buy one.
You might be able to play it on PC....sometime. I would rather play it when it releases.
Yeah I get where you're coming from but unfortunately that's not for everyone. But as history dictates once the "hey we haven't ruled out PC" it means it's coming..... It's really not a matter of "might" anymore it's a matter of when....DR3, Ryse.... And I'm willing to bet SoD is next.
It really diminishes the value and reason to buy a system when X game is said to possibly release on other platforms.
I am with you...I would rather have the X1 exclusives stay exclusive....but MS is in the PC business as well. And MS did say they were going to focus on the PC also. This looks like their strategy....games will be exclusive until the sales pretty much die down and then port to PC.
I game on all platforms ( except the WiiU ) and I know the PC is the best but I would rather play the game instead of hoping and waiting.
most of if not all the games that come to PC are released through Steam and MS doesn't make a single dime out of it unless you consider the OS, which most people pirate anyway.
@Gue1 said:
@chikenfriedrice said:
@Animal-Mother said:
@chikenfriedrice said:
@Animal-Mother said:
Why.....Why did I buy an Xbox one.... Shits seriously getting out of hand. MS can't hold on to their exclusives and this really diminishes the reasons to buy one.
You might be able to play it on PC....sometime. I would rather play it when it releases.
Yeah I get where you're coming from but unfortunately that's not for everyone. But as history dictates once the "hey we haven't ruled out PC" it means it's coming..... It's really not a matter of "might" anymore it's a matter of when....DR3, Ryse.... And I'm willing to bet SoD is next.
It really diminishes the value and reason to buy a system when X game is said to possibly release on other platforms.
I am with you...I would rather have the X1 exclusives stay exclusive....but MS is in the PC business as well. And MS did say they were going to focus on the PC also. This looks like their strategy....games will be exclusive until the sales pretty much die down and then port to PC.
I game on all platforms ( except the WiiU ) and I know the PC is the best but I would rather play the game instead of hoping and waiting.
most of if not all the games that come to PC are released through Steam and MS doesn't make a single dime out of it unless you consider the OS, which most people pirate anyway.
Well Windows 8 sold 200 million....so idk about most.
@chikenfriedrice said:
@Gue1 said:
@chikenfriedrice said:
@Animal-Mother said:
@chikenfriedrice said:
@Animal-Mother said:
Why.....Why did I buy an Xbox one.... Shits seriously getting out of hand. MS can't hold on to their exclusives and this really diminishes the reasons to buy one.
You might be able to play it on PC....sometime. I would rather play it when it releases.
Yeah I get where you're coming from but unfortunately that's not for everyone. But as history dictates once the "hey we haven't ruled out PC" it means it's coming..... It's really not a matter of "might" anymore it's a matter of when....DR3, Ryse.... And I'm willing to bet SoD is next.
It really diminishes the value and reason to buy a system when X game is said to possibly release on other platforms.
I am with you...I would rather have the X1 exclusives stay exclusive....but MS is in the PC business as well. And MS did say they were going to focus on the PC also. This looks like their strategy....games will be exclusive until the sales pretty much die down and then port to PC.
I game on all platforms ( except the WiiU ) and I know the PC is the best but I would rather play the game instead of hoping and waiting.
most of if not all the games that come to PC are released through Steam and MS doesn't make a single dime out of it unless you consider the OS, which most people pirate anyway.
Well Windows 8 sold 200 million....so idk about most.
I hope we can play coop when this comes out.
@StormyJoe said:
@Chutebox said:
@Salt_The_Fries: please explain how having very little actual exclusives doesn't make a system less relevant
Because neither MS, Sony, nor Nintendo think the PC is competition for their respective consoles. Only fanboys do.
This has nothing to do with what the companies think. From a consumer, how does it no make it less relevant?
@pikachudude860 said:
Tomb Raider should have stayed exclusive. Sunset Overdrive should STAY exclusive.
Why should I buy and keep an Xbox One if none of the games are exclusive?
If there are no worth while TRUE exclusives, there is no reason to buy an Xbox One.
It doesn't matter a whole lot to me if there are exclusives or not. I use the x1 to do other stuff. Movies, music, skype, etc.
one of the xone games I wish would come to ps4. Looks awesome. Also seeing this makes me think what happened to fuse was mainly EA doing. Basically turning it into a generic looking shooter.
@Heil68 said:
@chikenfriedrice said:
@Gue1 said:
@chikenfriedrice said:
@Animal-Mother said:
@chikenfriedrice said:
@Animal-Mother said:
Why.....Why did I buy an Xbox one.... Shits seriously getting out of hand. MS can't hold on to their exclusives and this really diminishes the reasons to buy one.
You might be able to play it on PC....sometime. I would rather play it when it releases.
Yeah I get where you're coming from but unfortunately that's not for everyone. But as history dictates once the "hey we haven't ruled out PC" it means it's coming..... It's really not a matter of "might" anymore it's a matter of when....DR3, Ryse.... And I'm willing to bet SoD is next.
It really diminishes the value and reason to buy a system when X game is said to possibly release on other platforms.
I am with you...I would rather have the X1 exclusives stay exclusive....but MS is in the PC business as well. And MS did say they were going to focus on the PC also. This looks like their strategy....games will be exclusive until the sales pretty much die down and then port to PC.
I game on all platforms ( except the WiiU ) and I know the PC is the best but I would rather play the game instead of hoping and waiting.
most of if not all the games that come to PC are released through Steam and MS doesn't make a single dime out of it unless you consider the OS, which most people pirate anyway.
Well Windows 8 sold 200 million....so idk about most.
I hope we can play coop when this comes out.
Lets do it
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@Chutebox said:
@StormyJoe said:
@Chutebox said:
@Salt_The_Fries: please explain how having very little actual exclusives doesn't make a system less relevant
Because neither MS, Sony, nor Nintendo think the PC is competition for their respective consoles. Only fanboys do.
This has nothing to do with what the companies think. From a consumer, how does it no make it less relevant?
Because to the non-fanboy crowd, a game on the XB1 but not on the PS4 is relevant as far as being a reason to buy and XB1 over a PS4 (and vise versa). It doesn't matter to the non-fanboy that the game in question is also available for the PC.
@Heil68 said:
@chikenfriedrice:
Will add to both.
Sounds good man!
@StormyJoe said:
@Chutebox said:
@StormyJoe said:
@Chutebox said:
@Salt_The_Fries: please explain how having very little actual exclusives doesn't make a system less relevant
Because neither MS, Sony, nor Nintendo think the PC is competition for their respective consoles. Only fanboys do.
This has nothing to do with what the companies think. From a consumer, how does it no make it less relevant?
Because to the non-fanboy crowd, a game on the XB1 but not on the PS4 is relevant as far as being a reason to buy and XB1 over a PS4 (and vise versa). It doesn't matter to the non-fanboy that the game in question is also available for the PC.
You just described a fanboy. If one wasn't a fanboy and had a PC, no way I'd get the same game on X1 if it was available on PC.
@Chutebox said:
@StormyJoe said:
@Chutebox said:
@StormyJoe said:
@Chutebox said:
@Salt_The_Fries: please explain how having very little actual exclusives doesn't make a system less relevant
Because neither MS, Sony, nor Nintendo think the PC is competition for their respective consoles. Only fanboys do.
This has nothing to do with what the companies think. From a consumer, how does it no make it less relevant?
Because to the non-fanboy crowd, a game on the XB1 but not on the PS4 is relevant as far as being a reason to buy and XB1 over a PS4 (and vise versa). It doesn't matter to the non-fanboy that the game in question is also available for the PC.
You just described a fanboy. If one wasn't a fanboy and had a PC, no way I'd get the same game on X1 if it was available on PC.
Sorry, meant they'd. Can't edit on this damn thing.
Point is, X1 becomes much less relevant. Not sure how it doesn't.
PC is not apart of console v console gaming. It doesn't matter if the entire xbox 360 and x1 libraries become available on PC - it's not going to harm console sales. So it really doesn't matter if something comes to PC that was console exclusive.
People just don't know what they're talking about.
I'll wait for the PC port just like with Dead Rising 3 and Ryse.
@SolidTy said:
It's Insomniac's IP, they can do what they want. They wanted to own an IP and what they do after their contract is done is up to them for this game and franchise. That's the point of owning the IP, to be free to do what you want and to make more money.
Microsoft is the publisher, so it's not going on any other platform. Ted Price has already said there isn't a PC version being made. Sony is the publisher of Bloodborne. Do you think that's coming to the PC or XB1 anytime soon?
@blackace said:
@SolidTy said:
It's Insomniac's IP, they can do what they want. They wanted to own an IP and what they do after their contract is done is up to them for this game and franchise. That's the point of owning the IP, to be free to do what you want and to make more money.
Microsoft is the publisher, so it's not going on any other platform. Ted Price has already said there isn't a PC version being made. Sony is the publisher of Bloodborne. Do you think that's coming to the PC or XB1 anytime soon?
There is a lot of confusion in your post so I'm going to explain this piece by piece.
First, the publisher itself doesn't not mean much. Remember Ninja Gaiden 2, Limbo, Alan Wake, or Mass Effect 1 last generation? What about Ryse or Dead Rising 3 this generation for Xbone? Again, publisher doesn't mean much, it's all about who owns the IP. Capcom owns Dead Rising and wanted more money. Crytek owns Ryse and it's the same thing, they wanted more funds. All those games were published by Microsoft. There's countless other examples of Microsoft publishing a game only to see that same game release on various platforms. Let's not confuse who's publishing a game with who owns the IP. Sometimes they are the same thing, so I understand your confusion. For instance, Halo and Forza is published and owned by Microsoft (M$ saves me typing). Nintendo owns Mario and Zelda. Sony owns Gran Turismo and The Last of Us. Don't equate publisher with IP ownership. Most times it's the same thing, but the exceptions do exist like Sunset.
IP ownership is what my post is about, not who's the publisher-du-jour. Now that has been explained, it opens up the possibility of Insomniac doing what they want with their IP. All I indicated is that Insomniac can do what they want. That is absolutely true. They are under contract of course, so their responsibility is to sell as many Xbone's and therefore as many copies of their game as possible. They aren't going to jeopardize sales by telling everyone now what their possible multiplatform plans are. That would defeat the purpose of making the game exclusive and it would probably violate their standard NDA for the game. Any one asking Ted Price or other Insomniac employees about Sunset's future are not going to get a straight answer at this time. It's not Insomniac's best interest to reveal IF ANY plans are in place. I'm not saying Insomniac has plans to port the game to PC or whatever, but if there is plans for the IP, they shouldn't and won't reveal it at this time. This is standard.
That means we have to look at what PR is saying and understand it but also take it with a grain of salt. Ted Price wants to make money, he wants Sunset to be a huge seller, and he wouldn't jeopardize his brand new relationship with Xbox consumers and the company. Besides, there is also a matter of resources, they are a studio with finite resources and right now they are creating two games. Sunset Overdrive for Xbone and a Ratchet game for PS4. They most likely don't have time at this juncture to create or worry about porting down the road. That's what I indicated when I said they own the IP and they can do what they want. If what they want is to remain exclusive with Sunset, they can choose that, but right now it's a waiting game. Insomniac may go the route other IP owners like Capcom, Crytek, Tecmo, EA, etc.
The whole reason why Sunset is on Xbone is because M$ allowed Insomniac to own the IP and after decades in the industry Ted Price (I've actually had the benefit of meeting him a few times) was eager to own an IP after years of hard work. Insomniac didn't own Spyro (Universal), they didn't own Resistance (Sony), and they didn't own Ratchet (Sony). Insomniac did get FUSE (allowing EA to publish for them), but that game was a commercial and critical bomb. That was their last game, so there is no point in resurrecting a tarnished IP. We don't know the arrangement Insomniac and Xbox execs made, but IP ownership is in the firm hands of Insomniac for Sunset.
Finally, regarding Bloodborne (like Sony's Demon's Souls which is still PS3 only as Sony owns the IP), Sony is not only the publisher but they also own the IP so the situation is not even comparable because you are equating publisher with IP ownership and they are sometimes two different things. Sony has a history of not releasing their IPs so they won't be releasing Bloodborne on Xbone or PC most likely, but that again would be Sony's choice.
Another example would be Phantom Dust which was published by Majesco in the west for Xbox, although it was a M$ IP. It was always a M$ IP, but it wasn't deemed worthy to be released in the US and Majesco made a deal to publish the game in the west. The IP ownership was never Majesco's, it was just a deal. Atlus also operates in a similar fashion. Nintendo hired Tecmo to make a Metroid game, but that game was still a Nintendo game. The IP ownership never transferred. It's a contract deal. Capcom and Konami also have outsourced their properties (Bionic Commando and Castlevania) but retained the IP ownership.
Insomniac doesn't have a history with IP ownership so we don't know what they will do...However, all I ever said and indicated was that it was Insomniac's CHOICE to do what they will with the IP. I didn't specify what that CHOICE would be. Again, they may choose to keep the entire series Xbox only, but that will be their choice. We don't know what financial incentives M$ has in place for Insomniac to keep the game on or off Xbox. What we do for sure know though is that unlike Halo, Forza, Bloodborne, God of War, Mario, Zelda, et cetera; these are uncharted waters for Insomniac and they own an IP and we are entering a new era and possible transition of Insomniac becoming more than just a developer.
I took the time and laid it all out. I wanted to give you a very good understanding of this issue to prevent future inaccurate questions that associate IP ownership with the publisher. They are different. I can cite more examples, but in the interest of a conclusion, I think we got enough here that answers your question.
Have a good day.
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@Heil68 said:
@sukraj said:
@Heil68 said:
@sukraj said:
I honestly have zero interest in Sunset Overdrive.
WHAT?!?! We were going to coop too! :(
nah I think i'll pass heli
You disappoint me!
sorry to disappoint you mate I think i'll spend my cash on something else.
R u getting Sunset Overdrive
Six months later it'll come on pc and NOOOOOOOOOT run in laughable 900p. Do i care? Zero fks given, even Destiny is less generic than this Dead RIsing ripoff
@SolidTy said:
@blackace said:
@SolidTy said:
It's Insomniac's IP, they can do what they want. They wanted to own an IP and what they do after their contract is done is up to them for this game and franchise. That's the point of owning the IP, to be free to do what you want and to make more money.
Microsoft is the publisher, so it's not going on any other platform. Ted Price has already said there isn't a PC version being made. Sony is the publisher of Bloodborne. Do you think that's coming to the PC or XB1 anytime soon?
There is a lot of confusion in your post so I'm going to explain this piece by piece.
First, the publisher itself doesn't not mean much. Remember Ninja Gaiden 2, Limbo, Alan Wake, or Mass Effect 1 last generation? What about Ryse or Dead Rising 3 this generation for Xbone? Again, publisher doesn't mean much, it's all about who owns the IP. Capcom owns Dead Rising and wanted more money. Crytek owns Ryse and it's the same thing, they wanted more funds. All those games were published by Microsoft. There's countless other examples of Microsoft publishing a game only to see that same game release on various platforms. Let's not confuse who's publishing a game with who owns the IP. Sometimes they are the same thing, so I understand your confusion. For instance, Halo and Forza is published and owned by Microsoft (M$ saves me typing). Nintendo owns Mario and Zelda. Sony owns Gran Turismo and The Last of Us. Don't equate publisher with IP ownership. Most times it's the same thing, but the exceptions do exist like Sunset.
IP ownership is what my post is about, not who's the publisher-du-jour. Now that has been explained, it opens up the possibility of Insomniac doing what they want with their IP. All I indicated is that Insomniac can do what they want. That is absolutely true. They are under contract of course, so their responsibility is to sell as many Xbone's and therefore as many copies of their game as possible. They aren't going to jeopardize sales by telling everyone now what their possible multiplatform plans are. That would defeat the purpose of making the game exclusive and it would probably violate their standard NDA for the game. Any one asking Ted Price or other Insomniac employees about Sunset's future are not going to get a straight answer at this time. It's not Insomniac's best interest to reveal IF ANY plans are in place. I'm not saying Insomniac has plans to port the game to PC or whatever, but if there is plans for the IP, they shouldn't and won't reveal it at this time. This is standard.
That means we have to look at what PR is saying and understand it but also take it with a grain of salt. Ted Price wants to make money, he wants Sunset to be a huge seller, and he wouldn't jeopardize his brand new relationship with Xbox consumers and the company. Besides, there is also a matter of resources, they are a studio with finite resources and right now they are creating two games. Sunset Overdrive for Xbone and a Ratchet game for PS4. They most likely don't have time at this juncture to create or worry about porting down the road. That's what I indicated when I said they own the IP and they can do what they want. If what they want is to remain exclusive with Sunset, they can choose that, but right now it's a waiting game. Insomniac may go the route other IP owners like Capcom, Crytek, Tecmo, EA, etc.
The whole reason why Sunset is on Xbone is because M$ allowed Insomniac to own the IP and after decades in the industry Ted Price (I've actually had the benefit of meeting him a few times) was eager to own an IP after years of hard work. Insomniac didn't own Spyro (Universal), they didn't own Resistance (Sony), and they didn't own Ratchet (Sony). Insomniac did get FUSE (allowing EA to publish for them), but that game was a commercial and critical bomb. That was their last game, so there is no point in resurrecting a tarnished IP. We don't know the arrangement Insomniac and Xbox execs made, but IP ownership is in the firm hands of Insomniac for Sunset.
Finally, regarding Bloodborne (like Sony's Demon's Souls which is still PS3 only as Sony owns the IP), Sony is not only the publisher but they also own the IP so the situation is not even comparable because you are equating publisher with IP ownership and they are sometimes two different things. Sony has a history of not releasing their IPs so they won't be releasing Bloodborne on Xbone or PC most likely, but that again would be Sony's choice.
Another example would be Phantom Dust which was published by Majesco in the west for Xbox, although it was a M$ IP. It was always a M$ IP, but it wasn't deemed worthy to be released in the US and Majesco made a deal to publish the game in the west. The IP ownership was never Majesco's, it was just a deal. Atlus also operates in a similar fashion. Nintendo hired Tecmo to make a Metroid game, but that game was still a Nintendo game. The IP ownership never transferred. It's a contract deal. Capcom and Konami also have outsourced their properties (Bionic Commando and Castlevania) but retained the IP ownership.
Insomniac doesn't have a history with IP ownership so we don't know what they will do...However, all I ever said and indicated was that it was Insomniac's CHOICE to do what they will with the IP. I didn't specify what that CHOICE would be. Again, they may choose to keep the entire series Xbox only, but that will be their choice. We don't know what financial incentives M$ has in place for Insomniac to keep the game on or off Xbox. What we do for sure know though is that unlike Halo, Forza, Bloodborne, God of War, Mario, Zelda, et cetera; these are uncharted waters for Insomniac and they own an IP and we are entering a new era and possible transition of Insomniac becoming more than just a developer.
I took the time and laid it all out. I wanted to give you a very good understanding of this issue to prevent future inaccurate questions that associate IP ownership with the publisher. They are different. I can cite more examples, but in the interest of a conclusion, I think we got enough here that answers your question.
Have a good day.
I didn't read all that crap. As I said, Ted Price (the developer - not publisher) said there is no PC version of the game in development. If anything they will start working on a sequel to Sunset Overdrive next year. If From Software owns the IP for Bloodborne, couldn't they bring that out for the PC or XB1 as well? Sony doesn't own the IP, they're just the publisher. I'm already have a good day. Thanks.
@blackace said:
@SolidTy said:
@blackace said:
@SolidTy said:
It's Insomniac's IP, they can do what they want. They wanted to own an IP and what they do after their contract is done is up to them for this game and franchise. That's the point of owning the IP, to be free to do what you want and to make more money.
Microsoft is the publisher, so it's not going on any other platform. Ted Price has already said there isn't a PC version being made. Sony is the publisher of Bloodborne. Do you think that's coming to the PC or XB1 anytime soon?
There is a lot of confusion in your post so I'm going to explain this piece by piece.
First, the publisher itself doesn't not mean much. Remember Ninja Gaiden 2, Limbo, Alan Wake, or Mass Effect 1 last generation? What about Ryse or Dead Rising 3 this generation for Xbone? Again, publisher doesn't mean much, it's all about who owns the IP. Capcom owns Dead Rising and wanted more money. Crytek owns Ryse and it's the same thing, they wanted more funds. All those games were published by Microsoft. There's countless other examples of Microsoft publishing a game only to see that same game release on various platforms. Let's not confuse who's publishing a game with who owns the IP. Sometimes they are the same thing, so I understand your confusion. For instance, Halo and Forza is published and owned by Microsoft (M$ saves me typing). Nintendo owns Mario and Zelda. Sony owns Gran Turismo and The Last of Us. Don't equate publisher with IP ownership. Most times it's the same thing, but the exceptions do exist like Sunset.
IP ownership is what my post is about, not who's the publisher-du-jour. Now that has been explained, it opens up the possibility of Insomniac doing what they want with their IP. All I indicated is that Insomniac can do what they want. That is absolutely true. They are under contract of course, so their responsibility is to sell as many Xbone's and therefore as many copies of their game as possible. They aren't going to jeopardize sales by telling everyone now what their possible multiplatform plans are. That would defeat the purpose of making the game exclusive and it would probably violate their standard NDA for the game. Any one asking Ted Price or other Insomniac employees about Sunset's future are not going to get a straight answer at this time. It's not Insomniac's best interest to reveal IF ANY plans are in place. I'm not saying Insomniac has plans to port the game to PC or whatever, but if there is plans for the IP, they shouldn't and won't reveal it at this time. This is standard.
That means we have to look at what PR is saying and understand it but also take it with a grain of salt. Ted Price wants to make money, he wants Sunset to be a huge seller, and he wouldn't jeopardize his brand new relationship with Xbox consumers and the company. Besides, there is also a matter of resources, they are a studio with finite resources and right now they are creating two games. Sunset Overdrive for Xbone and a Ratchet game for PS4. They most likely don't have time at this juncture to create or worry about porting down the road. That's what I indicated when I said they own the IP and they can do what they want. If what they want is to remain exclusive with Sunset, they can choose that, but right now it's a waiting game. Insomniac may go the route other IP owners like Capcom, Crytek, Tecmo, EA, etc.
The whole reason why Sunset is on Xbone is because M$ allowed Insomniac to own the IP and after decades in the industry Ted Price (I've actually had the benefit of meeting him a few times) was eager to own an IP after years of hard work. Insomniac didn't own Spyro (Universal), they didn't own Resistance (Sony), and they didn't own Ratchet (Sony). Insomniac did get FUSE (allowing EA to publish for them), but that game was a commercial and critical bomb. That was their last game, so there is no point in resurrecting a tarnished IP. We don't know the arrangement Insomniac and Xbox execs made, but IP ownership is in the firm hands of Insomniac for Sunset.
Finally, regarding Bloodborne (like Sony's Demon's Souls which is still PS3 only as Sony owns the IP), Sony is not only the publisher but they also own the IP so the situation is not even comparable because you are equating publisher with IP ownership and they are sometimes two different things. Sony has a history of not releasing their IPs so they won't be releasing Bloodborne on Xbone or PC most likely, but that again would be Sony's choice.
Another example would be Phantom Dust which was published by Majesco in the west for Xbox, although it was a M$ IP. It was always a M$ IP, but it wasn't deemed worthy to be released in the US and Majesco made a deal to publish the game in the west. The IP ownership was never Majesco's, it was just a deal. Atlus also operates in a similar fashion. Nintendo hired Tecmo to make a Metroid game, but that game was still a Nintendo game. The IP ownership never transferred. It's a contract deal. Capcom and Konami also have outsourced their properties (Bionic Commando and Castlevania) but retained the IP ownership.
Insomniac doesn't have a history with IP ownership so we don't know what they will do...However, all I ever said and indicated was that it was Insomniac's CHOICE to do what they will with the IP. I didn't specify what that CHOICE would be. Again, they may choose to keep the entire series Xbox only, but that will be their choice. We don't know what financial incentives M$ has in place for Insomniac to keep the game on or off Xbox. What we do for sure know though is that unlike Halo, Forza, Bloodborne, God of War, Mario, Zelda, et cetera; these are uncharted waters for Insomniac and they own an IP and we are entering a new era and possible transition of Insomniac becoming more than just a developer.
I took the time and laid it all out. I wanted to give you a very good understanding of this issue to prevent future inaccurate questions that associate IP ownership with the publisher. They are different. I can cite more examples, but in the interest of a conclusion, I think we got enough here that answers your question.
Have a good day.
I didn't read all that crap. As I said, Ted Price (the developer - not publisher) said there is no PC version of the game in development. If anything they will start working on a sequel to Sunset Overdrive next year. If From Software owns the IP for Bloodborne, couldn't they bring that out for the PC or XB1 as well? Sony doesn't own the IP, they're just the publisher. I'm already have a good day. Thanks.
I didn't call your posts 'crap' (as you just called mine) although they were not impressive and revealed you were confused about IP ownership after many years of gaming. This particular point you are making about the Bloodborne IP was discussed ad nauseum in SW months ago when Bloodborne was first revealed. A lot of port begging was going on and they were all answered. Am I to truly believe you never read in various forums or here in SW this now beat-to-near-death Bloodborne IP ownership issue in all those conversations over the last five+ months? All this time you believed Sony didn't own the Bloodborne IP when that information was repeated over and over? That's unfortunate since it's September 27th, 2014. Here's a great webpage revealing Sony's trademark filed way back in April 2014.
I wouldn't read my post either in your shoes, as my post answers every question you posed and obliterates your previous stance in a very respectful and well positioned post, without ad hominems. I was nice enough to respond and educate you on the somewhat complex topic of IP ownership/publisher ownership despite your reputation as a hardcore troll in SW and despite your last trolling at me attempt a few weeks ago. I let bygones be bygones and gave you a ton of great information to answer your queries.
To answer your 'what if' scenario regarding From Software:
You are incorrect and misinformed; I can see what's confusing you. You were wrong, Sony does own the Bloodborne IP, not From Software. Feel free to look that up on the inter-webs. This IP ownership deal is exactly the same deal as Sony's Demon's Souls game which From Software co-developed with Sony. From Software is collaborating once again with SCE Japan Studio (a sony-owned dev studio). To answer, yes, If From Software did hypothetically own the Bloodborne IP (that's a big IF), From could in fact bring the Bloodborne IP to PC, Xbone, and more machines (as From demonstrated with From's Dark Souls series). However From Software does not own the Bloodborne IP; Sony owns the Bloodborne IP. You may as well be asking when Mario Galaxy 2, God of War III, The Legend of Zelda, or The Last of Us is coming to PC. The Sony owned Bloodborne IP is a lousy example by comparison to Insomniac owning the Sunset Overdrive IP.
PR statements from Ted Price trying to sell his games was covered above (aka at this time Ted Price PR means little). For more insight, see Capcom's Dead Rising 3 before (Xbone only, it's not TIMED! No PC ports!) and after Capcom PR statements (DR3 is coming to PC!).
I'm not going to keep answering the same questions though, as I'm retreading old material as it is. If you truly are confused on this issue and refuse to read my post above. Look this information up elsewhere, offsite even. You don't seem to want to look the answers up, but when you quote people for answers and they deliver, you tell them it's 'crap' and remain confused. That's no way to go through life unless your goal is to remain ignorant. I recommend you just don't quote people asking questions because it seems to me you aren't interested in the answers. You could also just look up the history of Sony published games ported to PC/other consoles and Xbox published games ported to PC/other consoles. That's the difference between each companies 1st party studios. One company opts to buy more 3rd party timed exclusive deals, the other makes/funds games whilst co-developing them. Just look up the answers yourself or skip that post.
My first post said enough on the topic. My first post in this thread was incredibly concise which is what you prefer:
It's Insomniac's IP, they can do what they want. They wanted to own an IP and what they do after their contract is done is up to them for this game and franchise. That's the point of owning the IP, to be free to do what you want and to make more money.
@blackace said:
I didn't read all that crap. As I said, Ted Price (the developer - not publisher) said there is no PC version of the game in development. If anything they will start working on a sequel to Sunset Overdrive next year. If From Software owns the IP for Bloodborne, couldn't they bring that out for the PC or XB1 as well? Sony doesn't own the IP, they're just the publisher. I'm already have a good day. Thanks.
Original Story: Want to play the next Dead Rising? You better get an Xbox One.
Reported by OXM.UK, a Capcom representative at Gamescom has confirmed that Dead Rising 3 will remain exclusive to Xbox One even after launch. He said:
Definitely not a timed exclusive, it's an Xbox One game. We see a lot of this online. It's not coming to PS4 or PC.
http://www.craveonline.com/gaming/articles/556927-gamescom-2013-dead-rising-3-is-never-coming-to-ps4-or-pc
Yeah neither was DR3 which Capcom stated was XBO exclusive...hahahaa
We all know what that means...lol
We know how that turned out lol
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