Super Smash Bros Brawl has no chance of GOTY

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#1 TheMysticHorse
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Why? Well a 9.5 in the shallow party genre has no chance against the 9.5s that'll be in genres with high standards. Hell, even an 8.5 in the in any other genre would have a better chance at GOTY than Smash Bros.

Regardless, with Spore and Starcraft guaranteed 9.5s (and being in the highest standard genres), your button mashing shallow party game has no chance. Lets not forget that even if Metal Gear Solid 4 and Little Big Planet flop (8.5), they will still beat out Smash for GOTY due to higher genre standards.

Enjoy your 9.5 sheep, but Smash has as much chance of getting GOTY 2008 as WarioWare: Smooth Moves did at getting GOTY 2007. Shallow party games simply can't compete.

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#2 Ibacai
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Same thing was said about SMG and look how that turned out.
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#3 flazzle
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SSBB is shallow?

SSBB is party? (well, maybe...but I don't think of it that way for some reason. I could be wrong here)

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#4 Hewkii
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Why? Well a 9.5 in the shallow party genre

TheMysticHorse

I suppose anything with multiplayer is now in that genre.

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#5 TheMysticHorse
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Same thing was said about SMG and look how that turned out.Ibacai
Not true kiddo.
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#6 luigigreen
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:lol: I love when people call is shallow. It's usually by the people who've never played the game. That's what people said about Melee, and MLG uses it.
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#7 blahzor
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You really hate anything nintendo with a passion, don't ya? Even more so then you hate everything else gaming related that's not on the pc.

For starters, a game doesn't have to be GOTY to be good.. and even if brawl is inferior to the games you listed, it wouldn't mean that brawl has to be a poor game at all. Also, reviewers and fans agree that the smash series is not shallow or just "party games". They are accessable, but they are also deep and competitive.

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#8 travt-down
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SSBB is hella fun as a button mashing party game.

SSBB is even better than that as a deep and technical fighter.

It has a great chance at GotY. Or at least as much chance as any fighting game has had.

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#9 Ibacai
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[QUOTE="Ibacai"]Same thing was said about SMG and look how that turned out.TheMysticHorse
Not true kiddo.

I didn't say it was said by you but that it was said.
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#10 M3tro1d
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It's one of the best multiplayer games ever made, stop hating.
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#11 Ontain
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I think it could get nominated. though it's out so early in the year that I don't think it would have the momentum.

as for shallow party genre. :roll: only idiots would think Warioware and SSBB are in the same genre.

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#12 deactivated-59d151f079814
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To be honest as a long time fan of Fighting games as well as Brawl being the first super smash brotehrs game ever to own... Brawl is a very indepth game, I find it much MUCH harder to get good at then the typical street fighter game.. Just watching some of the actual tournamnet battles is sickening to how good some of these people are.
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#13 majadamus
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I'd like to think so too, TC. But, SSBB is a very good game. I rather have No More Heroes win it though.
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#14 blahzor
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I think it could get nominated. though it's out so early in the year that I don't think it would have the momentum.

as for shallow party genre. :roll: only idiots would think Warioware and SSBB are in the same genre.

Ontain

Perhaps not. What i don't understand is why everyone is so keen to dismiss certain games already; whether it be brawl by dismissing it as a contender or every other game to come this year by declaring brawl the winner now.

Aslo, Why does it seem a game has to be complex to be great? SMG certainly wasn't very complicated at its core.

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#15 flazzle
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Hey wait! If SSBB is party, does that make other fighting games party? If not, whats the difference?

Getting kicked off the screen instead of being knocked out?

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#16 MrGrimFandango
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I just played it last night and its amazing, but nice try.
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#17 haziqonfire
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Shallow party game? I guess that means mostly any mulitplayer game is a shallow party game then.
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#18 GamerBoy53
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Of course it has a chance. Melee won GOTY three times. I think your just jealous.
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#19 BubbyJello
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I have to agree. SSBB has about as much of a chance at winning GOTY as Halo 3 did.
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#20 Can-o-Mark
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Hey wait! If SSBB is party, does that make other fighting games party? If not, whats the difference?

Getting kicked off the screen instead of being knocked out?

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The three qualifications of a fighting game:

1. Fighting one or more opponents in an arena-like setting (SSBB qualifies)
2. To win you must defeat your opponent by attacking him with primarly close combat attacks (SSBB qualifies)
3. Every female character in the game must have a pair of boobs that can fill a C-cup and move up and down realistically when the character jumps around (SSBB does not qualify)
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#21 Always-Honest
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shallow party genre

TheMysticHorse

it's not a party game and it's pretty deep. Once again ALL you do is troll. You should either inform yourself, Keep it real ort get the hell out.

i agree that SSBB probably won't get GOTY, but that's probably because it's too much like previous smash Brother games.

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#22 67gt500
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ROFL'z... first of all, there is nothing 'shallow' about SSBB... Brawl already stands as good a chance of getting GotY this year as any other high-profile 2008 title, and it's one of the first [that is, early] contenders out of the chute...
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#23 Blackbond
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And then you remembered Super Mario Galaxy. 9.5, GOTY, and #2 at Gamerankings. Every game has a chance by defininition.
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#24 TDLlama
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It has as good a chance as any... even though I think Spore will likely take it all this year. And it's far from shallow. There's a surprising amount of depth in the game.
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#25 jg4xchamp
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1- its a fighter
2- Its loaded with content
3- The game is much more than a button masher
4- Because its still enjoyable among 4 player on 1 couch doesnt make it a party game.
5- I agree Spore will win

But fighters have high standards, and Brawl has set the standard high in terms of variety, gameplay, content, and features in fighters.

Virtue Fighter holds the depth.

But that doesnt make SSBB shallow, its deep just not the deepest.

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#26 Newsboy
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Yeah, SSBB is such a shallow party game. I expecrt way more content in a fighting game than that. :roll:
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#27 Cesar_Barba
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[QUOTE="flazzle"]

Hey wait! If SSBB is party, does that make other fighting games party? If not, whats the difference?

Getting kicked off the screen instead of being knocked out?

Can-o-Mark


The three qualifications of a fighting game:

1. Fighting one or more opponents in an arena-like setting (SSBB qualifies)
2. To win you must defeat your opponent by attacking him with primarly close combat attacks (SSBB qualifies)
3. Every female character in the game must have a pair of boobs that can fill a C-cup and move up and down realistically when the character jumps around (SSBB does not qualify)

At least not untill it gets hacked :lol: HEck, even Pikachu can have them.
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#28 kav82
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Why? Well a 9.5 in the shallow party genre has no chance against the 9.5s that'll be in genres with high standards. Hell, even an 8.5 in the in any other genre would have a better chance at GOTY than Smash Bros.

Regardless, with Spore and Starcraft guaranteed 9.5s (and being in the highest standard genres), your button mashing shallow party game has no chance. Lets not forget that even if Metal Gear Solid 4 and Little Big Planet flop (8.5), they will still beat out Smash for GOTY due to higher genre standards.

Enjoy your 9.5 sheep, but Smash has as much chance of getting GOTY 2008 as WarioWare: Smooth Moves did at getting GOTY 2007. Shallow party games simply can't compete.

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#29 SaintJimmmy
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My anger is above all right now mainly cause i want to like make love to this game right now

As Un-GOTY sterotypical as it is its something games dont do very often they make them FUN Ive been playing super smash though the whole series and i can say if it gets GOTY it 100% deserves it

Why Do You Give It A Chance youll probally like it lol?

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#30 Always-Honest
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[QUOTE="TheMysticHorse"]

Why? Well a 9.5 in the shallow party genre has no chance against the 9.5s that'll be in genres with high standards. Hell, even an 8.5 in the in any other genre would have a better chance at GOTY than Smash Bros.

Regardless, with Spore and Starcraft guaranteed 9.5s (and being in the highest standard genres), your button mashing shallow party game has no chance. Lets not forget that even if Metal Gear Solid 4 and Little Big Planet flop (8.5), they will still beat out Smash for GOTY due to higher genre standards.

Enjoy your 9.5 sheep, but Smash has as much chance of getting GOTY 2008 as WarioWare: Smooth Moves did at getting GOTY 2007. Shallow party games simply can't compete.

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#31 MikeE21286
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I think if Nintendo had a better online service it would definitely have a chance.
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#32 BubbyJello
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Why Do You Give It A Chance youll probally like it lol?

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Thats probably why he won't give it a chance.

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#33 VendettaRed07
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yeah i love ssbb, but i dont think it should get game of the year, too many issues. Online is kind of lame, and the singleplayer mode is like torture to play through but i have to do it to unlock all the characters.
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#34 ff7isnumbaone
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Same thing was said about SMG and look how that turned out.Ibacai

smg was released closer to the end of the year. I think if gow2 was released around the same time it wouldn't have been an easy win.

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#35 ogvampire
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everybody else's opinion > your opinion.

you gotta say that is at least HAS a chance for GOTY. whats is its average on metacritic/gamerankings?

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#36 TheMysticHorse
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Sorry kiddies but I've already played this button mashing party rubbish, it's garbage and that is a fact. Sadly I bought Melee, which was garbage.

Oh and Smash for those calling this party trash a fighting game rather than it's official genre (party game), I have shown you a real fighter now.

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#37 ogvampire
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Sorry kiddies but I've already played this button mashing party rubbish, it's garbage and that is a fact. Sadly I bought Melee, which was garbage.

Oh and Smash for those calling this party trash a fighting game rather than it's official genre (party game), I have shown you a real fighter now.

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#38 luigigreen
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Sorry kiddies but I've already played this button mashing party rubbish, it's garbage and that is a fact. Sadly I bought Melee, which was garbage.

Oh and Smash for those calling this party trash a fighting game rather than it's official genre (party game), I have shown you a real fighter now.

TheMysticHorse
http://www.gamespot.com/wii/action/supersmashbros/review.html?sid=6187411 Look at the genre. 3D fighting. You lose. Simple as that. EDIT: Also, just because you play Melee barely, probably, doesn't mean you've played SSBB. It's pretty different ad 10 times better, even though Melee was still awesome.
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#39 Shinobishyguy
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Same thing was said about SMG and look how that turned out.Ibacai
hell...I remember haters saying that SSBB had no chance at getting AAA.

the Haters really need to get new crystal balls :|

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#40 samusarmada
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such poor arguments... :(
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#41 dsmccracken
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Owing a game doesn't keep someone from being a troll or a raging fakeboy.

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#42 Rhubarb9
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:lol: I love when people call is shallow. It's usually by the people who've never played the game. That's what people said about Melee, and MLG uses it.luigigreen



I've played SMB to GC and im a pro
I go up to ppl and press the button that sends them flying off and then I win
number 1.

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#43 luigigreen
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[QUOTE="luigigreen"]:lol: I love when people call is shallow. It's usually by the people who've never played the game. That's what people said about Melee, and MLG uses it.Rhubarb9




I've played SMB to GC and im a pro
I go up to ppl and press the button that sends them flying off and then I win
number 1.

I can't tell if your being sarcastic or if your a little slow. The point is is that newbies stand no chance against veterans of the series.
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#44 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

[QUOTE="luigigreen"]:lol: I love when people call is shallow. It's usually by the people who've never played the game. That's what people said about Melee, and MLG uses it.luigigreen




I've played SMB to GC and im a pro
I go up to ppl and press the button that sends them flying off and then I win
number 1.

I can't tell if your being sarcastic or if your a little slow. The point is is that newbies stand no chance against veterans of the series.

i got my money on that he's a little slow

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#45 WllDan7
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SSBB is going to be in the game of the year running and has a chance of being GOTY. SMG was last year here and at some other sites.
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#46 omarguy01
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lol you called it shallow.... poor guy

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#47 shoeman12
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Same thing was said about SMG and look how that turned out.Ibacai

bingo! only time will tell.

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#48 princeofshapeir
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SSBB is the best game this year for me, and I don't really care too much about the other games coming out. I don't think it will win GOTY, but if none of the other titles can beat its score... watch out.
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#49 nervmeister
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SSBB might not win GOTY, but it CERTAINLY has a chance at it.

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#50 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="luigigreen"]:lol: I love when people call is shallow. It's usually by the people who've never played the game. That's what people said about Melee, and MLG uses it.Rhubarb9




I've played SMB to GC and im a pro
I go up to ppl and press the button that sends them flying off and then I win
number 1.

You're played Super Mario Bros. on the Gamecube? Congratulations! :lol:

I can tell you haven't played a Smash game in your life.