Super Smash Brothers retail debut underwhelming for the #1 console

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#1 The__MCP
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I saw bigger lines at Gamestop for less hyped games like Bioshock.

There wasn't even a line at mass retailers like Walmart.

I would think the #1 anticipated game of 2008 for the #1 selling console would have more debut night craziness, wouldn't you?

Does it just prove that most Wii owners are casual non-gamers? Only true gamers wait in line for the big games at midnight.

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#2 Eponique
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Did you see the Japanese launch? The retailer counted 500 people in line, that's like... the Xbox 360 launch times 3.

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you are joking right....?

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#4 The__MCP
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Did you see the Japanese launch? The retailer counted 500 people in line, that's like... the Xbox 360 launch times 3.

Eponique

The Japanese may love it, but obviously North America wasn't as thrilled. It will still sell well, I just thought it was wierd how dead the opening night debut party was.

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#5 sonicmj1
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Anecdotal evidence for the loss.
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#6 Shazenab
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Nintendo games dont sell on three days of hype, they sell on five years worth of word of mouth.

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#7 Tjeremiah1988
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i ordered my Brawl online sometime last week thinking I wouldnt find a copy after Sunday. But yesterday I went to the mall (Queens Plaza) and entered GAMESTOP to see more then 10 copies ready to be purchased (no, not displayed cases). Now i must wait today for my Brawl to be delivered :).
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#8 Darthmatt
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Well aparantly there are soooo many people playing it right now that the online doesnt work. Really, I havent connected once. nintendo WFC = fail.

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#9 vdastampede
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This is getting stupid. Just stop.
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#11 m_machine024
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I didn't line up. There was no need. I just went at the store at Sunday 3PM and got my copy.
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[QUOTE="Eponique"]

Did you see the Japanese launch? The retailer counted 500 people in line, that's like... the Xbox 360 launch times 3.

The__MCP

The Japanese may love it, but obviously North America wasn't as thrilled. It will still sell well, I just thought it was wierd how dead the opening night debut party was.

I didn't check out my nearest EB, but stores like Walmart were completely sold out in my city. Plus, I've never seen a lineup at any EB ever. I find everyone reserves their copy and EB only orders a little more than what is reserved. So there is no need to line up.

I don't think anyone needs to worry. Even NA loves Smash Brothers. The game is going to do well. It is stupid to think beause one person didn't witness a line-up at one store that must mean the game will flop.

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#13 Norule04
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F*** nintendo for delaying the release, hope nobody shows up at the European launch, that'll teach them.
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#14 shadowcat2576
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Or maybe Wii gamers are just more sensible. I don't know what the midnight releases here at Gamestops were like, I personally couldn't be bothered. If you preordered the game, it'll be there when you're ready to pick it up, and even if not, most retailers stock a good supply of Nintendo titles.

Personally, I waited until Sunday morning, went to Target, reminded them that it released today, and got my copy. I expect that retailers are very pleased with the sales, it just wasn't the type of "event" that Halo 3 was.

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#15 HarlockJC
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there was like 30-40 people at the gamespot I got mine....and mine was a small one in Jacksonville
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#16 mlbslugger86
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wait...this game came out?where the hell have i been:o
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#17 Michael85
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Somebody bookmark this thread so it can be bumped when Brawl outsells everything that's not Wii Fit, Wii Play, or Wii Sports.
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#18 Arsuz
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So is brawl a shallow party game or a hard core game? I wish haters would make up their mind :|
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#19 Ragnarok1051
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So your personal experience represents the whole country?
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#20 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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Lets wait for the sales numbers b4 speculating :wink:
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#21 Sgt_Crow
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So the waiting line at your local gameshops represents everything Brawl is and does?
Man, that's so sad. :lol:
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#22 NathanDrake
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#1 anticipated game of 2008????????????????? :D:D:D:D:D:D

almost fell of my chair!!

I think that Gears of War 2, Metal Gear Solid 4, Grand Theft Auto 4, Soul Calibur 4 and Tekken 6 is more anticipated than SSBB!!

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#23 yellowandmushy
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#1 anticipated game of 2008????????????????? :D:D:D:D:D:D

almost fell of my chair!!

I think that Gears of War 2, Metal Gear Solid 4, Grand Theft Auto 4, Soul Calibur 4 and Tekken 6 is more anticipated than SSBB!!

NathanDrake
The only one you listed that is more anticipated is Grand Theft Auto 4.
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I live in a fairly small city. There were approx 25 people waiting at midnight at one of the Wal Marts for the release when I got my copy.

Almost forgot. The WM that i went to got about 150-200 copies. There were none left by Monday morning.

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Did you see the Japanese launch? The retailer counted 500 people in line, that's like... the Xbox 360 launch times 3.

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If only you were at Best Buy in New York on September 24th, 2007. 500 is a pathetic number.
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#26 Ontain
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Well aparantly there are soooo many people playing it right now that the online doesnt work. Really, I havent connected once. nintendo WFC = fail.

Darthmatt

sounds like WoW at launch or on a big patch day or expansion.

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[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]

Well aparantly there are soooo many people playing it right now that the online doesnt work. Really, I havent connected once. nintendo WFC = fail.

Ontain

sounds like WoW at launch or on a big patch day or expansion.

or XBL over the Holidays, but at least its not taking WFC completely down.

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#28 TimeToPartyHard
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Lame *** damage control. Seriously, get over it. It's an awesome game. Keep your jealousy out of here.
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#29 Bread_or_Decide
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Wait for the numbers. You're going to PWN yourself. PWN I say!
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#30 Darthmatt
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[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]

Well aparantly there are soooo many people playing it right now that the online doesnt work. Really, I havent connected once. nintendo WFC = fail.

Ontain

sounds like WoW at launch or on a big patch day or expansion.

Except wow has millions of users already online. I doubt there were over a million people playing ssbb on day one. It would be great if they sold that many of course, but I still feel nintendo should have used their time and money beefing up their WFC before the release of this game. They knew it would be a big deal and no one should be making excuses for their delay. Its annoying, but I'm willing to give them a few days. I just hope the issues smooth out, otherwise it show how far nintendo still has to go to get a reliable online service.
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#31 Shadow2k6
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Well at midnight Gamestop was packed. Of course there will be no lines in the morning even Halo 3 didn't have much lines in the morning. I remember picking Halo 3 up at Circuit City at 10 AM Circuit City was empty and only a bunch of people were there picking up preorders. I also live in a major city so I think thats a good indication of what happened in a lot of places.
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#32 NathanDrake
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[QUOTE="NathanDrake"]

#1 anticipated game of 2008????????????????? :D:D:D:D:D:D

almost fell of my chair!!

I think that Gears of War 2, Metal Gear Solid 4, Grand Theft Auto 4, Soul Calibur 4 and Tekken 6 is more anticipated than SSBB!!

yellowandmushy

The only one you listed that is more anticipated is Grand Theft Auto 4.

I don't know man!! I think all that I listed there is more anticipated...maybe I should add Killzone 2 and Resistance 2....oh and Gran Turismo 5(that's if it makes it out this year!)

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#33 Ontain
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[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="Darthmatt"]

Well aparantly there are soooo many people playing it right now that the online doesnt work. Really, I havent connected once. nintendo WFC = fail.

Darthmatt

sounds like WoW at launch or on a big patch day or expansion.

Except wow has millions of users already online. I doubt there were over a million people playing ssbb on day one. It would be great if they sold that many of course, but I still feel nintendo should have used their time and money beefing up their WFC before the release of this game. They knew it would be a big deal and no one should be making excuses for their delay. Its annoying, but I'm willing to give them a few days. I just hope the issues smooth out, otherwise it show how far nintendo still has to go to get a reliable online service.

I was there at WoW launch. Connections sucked for over a week. I think it was closer to a month before things settled down. also SSBB already as over a million japanese that have it. and now it's getting a big bump from Americans too. this is expected.

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#34 TimeToPartyHard
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[QUOTE="yellowandmushy"][QUOTE="NathanDrake"]

#1 anticipated game of 2008????????????????? :D:D:D:D:D:D

almost fell of my chair!!

I think that Gears of War 2, Metal Gear Solid 4, Grand Theft Auto 4, Soul Calibur 4 and Tekken 6 is more anticipated than SSBB!!

NathanDrake

The only one you listed that is more anticipated is Grand Theft Auto 4.

I don't know man!! I think all that I listed there is more anticipated...maybe I should add Killzone 2 and Resistance 2....oh and Gran Turismo 5(that's if it makes it out this year!)

I don't think any of those games are more anticipated....yet. They may be when they get closer to release, but as of now they certainly havn't been more anticipated than Brawl. So far this year Brawl has definitely been the most anticipated game. It remains to be seen if it stays that way though.

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#35 NathanDrake
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[QUOTE="NathanDrake"][QUOTE="yellowandmushy"][QUOTE="NathanDrake"]

#1 anticipated game of 2008????????????????? :D:D:D:D:D:D

almost fell of my chair!!

I think that Gears of War 2, Metal Gear Solid 4, Grand Theft Auto 4, Soul Calibur 4 and Tekken 6 is more anticipated than SSBB!!

TimeToPartyHard

The only one you listed that is more anticipated is Grand Theft Auto 4.

I don't know man!! I think all that I listed there is more anticipated...maybe I should add Killzone 2 and Resistance 2....oh and Gran Turismo 5(that's if it makes it out this year!)

I don't think any of those games are more anticipated....yet. They may be when they get closer to release, but as of now they certainly havn't been more anticipated than Brawl. So far this year Brawl has definitely been the most anticipated game. It remains to be seen if it stays that way though.

Ok I'd say so far GTA4 is the #1 anticipated game of this year by far!!!

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#36 Sgt_Crow
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[QUOTE="yellowandmushy"][QUOTE="NathanDrake"]

#1 anticipated game of 2008????????????????? :D:D:D:D:D:D

almost fell of my chair!!

I think that Gears of War 2, Metal Gear Solid 4, Grand Theft Auto 4, Soul Calibur 4 and Tekken 6 is more anticipated than SSBB!!

NathanDrake

The only one you listed that is more anticipated is Grand Theft Auto 4.

I don't know man!! I think all that I listed there is more anticipated...maybe I should add Killzone 2 and Resistance 2....oh and Gran Turismo 5(that's if it makes it out this year!)

Err no... it's like yellowandmushy said; only GTA4 is more anticpated then Brawl.

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#37 TDLlama
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Well, I got my copy pretty easily... no lines, no huge rush. Still, I expect it to be a million seller in the first week here... no gawdy Halo numbers, but great nevertheless.

And only GTAIV could be more anticipated than Brawl this year.

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#38 TimeToPartyHard
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I'd still have to disagree. Just using GS as my basis anytime where was ANY Brawl update it was posted all over the forums. I don't see that with GTA4. It's also hard for GTA4 to have more when they aren't updating people with info weekly. Feeding them little bits of info to keep them salivating. Not only that the delays made people nuts every time there was one. However, it is entirely possible that somewhere on GS GTA4 is getting more coverage and hype than Brawl did, I'm usually on here now and then at work, but I just havn't found that place yet.
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Unless there is a side game where Mario plays in a FPS mode.....don't expect big lines. It'll sell as well as Mario Galaxy but it's not going to get hardcore gamers in the US to jump for joy.....unless this is the only console they own which I would then say they are not a hardcore gamer.
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#40 bcrich959
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I got mine at a local EB. I preordered it a few weeks ago. Anyway I went to pick mine up a couple hours after the store had opened and there were still people crowding the store to pick them up. So maybe it's just hit and miss, some places had a higher demand and others lower.
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#41 darkIink
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i ordered my Brawl online sometime last week thinking I wouldnt find a copy after Sunday. But yesterday I went to the mall (Queens Plaza) and entered GAMESTOP to see more then 10 copies ready to be purchased (no, not displayed cases). Now i must wait today for my Brawl to be delivered :).Tjeremiah1988
If you mean Queens, NYC then lol I go there. It's lways packed, why not try a store like Best Buy? No one goes there for games, but my Gamestop was packed... got Brawl at Best Buy in a minute, paid and left fast.
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#42 Erkidu
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I saw bigger lines at Gamestop for less hyped games like Bioshock.

There wasn't even a line at mass retailers like Walmart.

I would think the #1 anticipated game of 2008 for the #1 selling console would have more debut night craziness, wouldn't you?

Does it just prove that most Wii owners are casual non-gamers? Only true gamers wait in line for the big games at midnight.

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So, I suppose the place you live in represents the entire world? :| Interesting... I work at a Circuit City in Atlanta, and we had a line of about 60 people outside when we opened - and ended up selling our entire stock (of 120 copies) before noon.
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#43 starmetroid
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I saw like 150-200 people at my EBgames at the midnight launch
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[QUOTE="yellowandmushy"][QUOTE="NathanDrake"]

#1 anticipated game of 2008????????????????? :D:D:D:D:D:D

almost fell of my chair!!

I think that Gears of War 2, Metal Gear Solid 4, Grand Theft Auto 4, Soul Calibur 4 and Tekken 6 is more anticipated than SSBB!!

NathanDrake

The only one you listed that is more anticipated is Grand Theft Auto 4.

I don't know man!! I think all that I listed there is more anticipated...maybe I should add Killzone 2 and Resistance 2....oh and Gran Turismo 5(that's if it makes it out this year!)

all the games you listed are games that YOU anticipate, not the videogaming world. we are all anticipating different games.

some people here are too silly. in their own minds they cant fathom other people not liking what they like. thats the number one cause of fanboyism

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#45 sonic_spark
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you are joking right....?

anasbouzid

He must be. Because one single experience apparently can be generalized to the rest of the population in North America.

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You went around the world in one night to check out the hype for SSBB at retail stores?:lol: Sounds exciting, man. Keep up the great work.
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#47 mdisen
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Best Buy had a ton in stock, I had no trouble finding one. Nintendo didn't advertise the f**k out of this game like Microsoft tends to do, that'll reduce the superficial launch statistics. It probably sold over a million in the first couple of days, which isn't anything to scoff at.
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#48 II-FBIsniper-II
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Because your city=rest of world.

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#49 waynehead895
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I was very excited to pick it up sunday night. Had plenty of time to play it. Just don't want to anymore.
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#50 GundamGuy0
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Why do I need to run out a midnight to buy this game again, there are plenty of copies to go around and then some. I'll just walk into a store friday or saturday and get me a copy.