System Wars and Initial Hardware Costs

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

Why does System wars make such a big deal out of initial hardware costs for a system? Yet ignore other factors such as, upkeep, lifespan, price of games, price of add-ons / services, etc. Is it just some fanboy logic? Or is there a real reason behind it?

Riverwolf007

if i spend money to build whatever passes for a state of the art rig and it does the best version of a game then it is the best version end of story.

is this a game site or a budget site?

Just Cause 2 on the PC is DX10 only, while a 6800 GT is a DX9 card.

nameless12345

I saw someone run the game with a 7000 series Nvidia card so I am sure there are ways to play it without a directx 10 card.

Also that is just one game. And like I said there is should be a ways to play it on older cards.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

My 7600 GT runs Crysis on low and it looks worse than console games.

RyviusRan

Not this argument again.

The 7600gt could do medium settings on Crysis.

And medium still looks good.

Well I don't know what exactly do you try to prove here, but it looks and runs poor on my system. Sure, it's outdated, but I do not agree that PC games run good on old hardware.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Just Cause 2 on the PC is DX10 only, while a 6800 GT is a DX9 card.

RyviusRan

I saw someone run the game with a 7000 series Nvidia card so I am sure there are ways to play it without a directx 10 card.

Also that is just one game. And like I said there is should be a ways to play it on older cards.

Maybe he used some hacks or programs. I personally wouldn't use those because of the problems you can get.

The list of DX10 only games is expanding.

[QUOTE="RyviusRan"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Just Cause 2 on the PC is DX10 only, while a 6800 GT is a DX9 card.

nameless12345

I saw someone run the game with a 7000 series Nvidia card so I am sure there are ways to play it without a directx 10 card.

Also that is just one game. And like I said there is should be a ways to play it on older cards.

Maybe he used some hacks or programs. I personally wouldn't use those because of the problems you can get.

The list of DX10 only games is expanding.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="RyviusRan"]

I saw someone run the game with a 7000 series Nvidia card so I am sure there are ways to play it without a directx 10 card.

Also that is just one game. And like I said there is should be a ways to play it on older cards.

NVIDIATI

Maybe he used some hacks or programs. I personally wouldn't use those because of the problems you can get.

The list of DX10 only games is expanding.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_10_support

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Maybe he used some hacks or programs. I personally wouldn't use those because of the problems you can get.

The list of DX10 only games is expanding.

Cronik959

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_10_support

Also IMO, all games should be using DX10 to its full.

I want to see some progression already.

[QUOTE="Cronik959"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] What problems? :? Also considering DX10 came out in 2006 I would hope the list would start to grow because there is an extremely small amount (I can think of 3, Shattered Horizon, Just Cause 2, Stormrise).

NVIDIATI

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_10_support

With DX11 I don't think that really matters anymore.

It's convenient for them to "forget" the long-term or extra costs. The PC is already the most versatile and most powerful gaming platform, with the largest and most varied selection of games, with mods, free content and free games etc. If you take into account the cost of buying games and paying for online services over a period of five years (standard console lifecycle), the PC is also the cheapest gaming platform. Right now the only thing keeping System Wars going is the "you need 4000$ every day for upgrades!!1!11!" myth. Take that away from them and they've got nothing.

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="Cronik959"]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_10_support

Cronik959

With DX11 I don't think that really matters anymore.

[QUOTE="Cronik959"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] Support does not mean only DX10...

NVIDIATI

With DX11 I don't think that really matters anymore.

I didn't realize that you guys said "DX10 ONLY" and now I'm asking why do we need DX10 only games at this point? DX11 gen is here. But before DX11 I could understand.

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="Cronik959"]

With DX11 I don't think that really matters anymore.

Cronik959

I didn't realize that you guys said "DX10 ONLY" and now I'm asking why do we need DX10 only games at this point? DX11 gen is here. But before DX11 I could understand.

hardware costs can be a bit hard to call. My bro has a sweet hone theater set up. But it does not use it for just gaming. After going from his place to my pc monitor it just felt like a huge downgrade . i see lots of people who have a great rig but end up using it on some lame 23 inch monitor.

hardware costs can be a bit hard to call. My bro has a sweet hone theater set up. But it does not use it for just gaming. After going from his place to my pc monitor it just felt like a huge downgrade . i see lots of people who have a great rig but end up using it on some lame 23 inch monitor.

dontshackzmii

If you're playing PC games at your desk the 23" is better.

With high pixel pitch a good small monitor will usually have more crisp image quality.

Also it supports higher than 1080P resolution.

If you sit far away on a couch then a larger monitor would be better though.

But most people seem to play at their desk which is why they go for a smaller monitor.

[QUOTE="Cronik959"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] What are you talking about? Nameless12345 said "The list of DX10 only games is expanding." I told him that their are only 3 games I know of that are only DX10. Following that you posted a link of DX10 supported games which has nothing to do with DX10 only. Now you're talking about DX11...:?

NVIDIATI

I didn't realize that you guys said "DX10 ONLY" and now I'm asking why do we need DX10 only games at this point? DX11 gen is here. But before DX11 I could understand.

yeah, so why are we still using DX9 again?

hardware costs can be a bit hard to call. My bro has a sweet hone theater set up. But it does not use it for just gaming. After going from his place to my pc monitor it just felt like a huge downgrade . i see lots of people who have a great rig but end up using it on some lame 23 inch monitor.

dontshackzmii

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="Cronik959"]

I didn't realize that you guys said "DX10 ONLY" and now I'm asking why do we need DX10 only games at this point? DX11 gen is here. But before DX11 I could understand.

Cronik959

yeah, so why are we still using DX9 again?

Dissgree because the disscution of the bang per buck should be impotent when considering a purchase of something.alexside1

1. Spell-check :x

2. The initial cost does not represent the overall bang per buck of owning that system.

6 people disagree in the poll so far, but not everyone said why...