Tablet Wars Begin. Google announces Nexus 7.

Eh. We can already get 7 inch tablets for $199. I bought a Samsung Galaxy Player 5.0 because its small enough to be portable but big enough to feel like a tablet. But its interesting how $199 has become the hot price. The kindle, Nook and now this are all decent 7 inch tablets priced at $199.

Then you're not thinking clearly. I was hoping we could avoid the INB4 post...musicalmac

Your memory must not be working very well, or Apple has a great marketing department, because this device is extremely similar to the first iPad in terms of power.Zeviander

#2 for INB4 post. Congrats.musicalmac

Well, it's kind of a key selling point for the Nexus 7? Normally I lean towards defending Apple's pricing, but it's hard to argue against a $250 (for the 16GB version) 7" tablet that stacks up to the $500 iPad 3.

Jelly Bean!

Sounds interesting, but I don't exactly see the point in owning a tablet.

Well, it's kind of a key selling point for the Nexus 7? Normally I lean towards defending Apple's pricing, but it's hard to argue against a $250 (for the 16GB version) 7" tablet that stacks up to the $500 iPad 3.

Slow_Show

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Microsoft Surface sh!ts all over this

ShadowDeathX

How much is this? And I'm sure you'll be right about the price being a lot higher for the Surface (At least the Win 8 Pro version) but is there even a price for either of the Surface models?

I'm definitely liking the idea of a Win 8 tablet, the iPad I have from work is nice, but I'm expecting the Win 8 tablet to be closer to a laptop, and a better replacement for mine, yet still be simple and have the portable tablet feel to it. (will either look into an ASUS Transformer or the Surface for a Win 8 tablet most likely)

EDIT: Nevermind, I saw in your OP that it's $200 now. :P

So you agree this new Google tablet is over two years late to the party? The original iPad's release marked a dramatic shift in mobile technology. The timing of this new Google tablet is as good as Microsoft's was with the original Zune... musicalmac

The thing is: What makes me want to get this over the iPad? :? That's the problem with tablets; I don't see a reason, other than price, to get these other tables.bbkkristian

The price.

[QUOTE="musicalmac"]So you agree this new Google tablet is over two years late to the party? The original iPad's release marked a dramatic shift in mobile technology. The timing of this new Google tablet is as good as Microsoft's was with the original Zune... Zeviander

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]The thing is: What makes me want to get this over the iPad? :? That's the problem with tablets; I don't see a reason, other than price, to get these other tables.AdrianWerner

Nook tab or kindle fire? For a pure Google experience this is your only option that isn't from some no name Chinese company in the $200 range.MFDOOM1983

So you agree this new Google tablet is over two years late to the party? musicalmac

:D

Is this a gaming tablet? If not, in what way is it relevant to System Wars?

thom_maytees

gaming on Android vs gaming on iOS should be brought up.

Anyway, between tablets why would I want to game on this smaller tablet with Android with a significantly smaller libray vs the iPad's 9.7" and iOS games library?

iOS gaming > Android gaming

Now it's SW material

c'mon Android fans discuss

I have a HP Touchpad and I am SATISFIED! :DMr_Cumberdale

what games are on it?

:D

Microsoft Surface sh!ts all over this

Harisemo

[QUOTE="musicalmac"]So you agree this new Google tablet is over two years late to the party? AdrianWerner

[QUOTE="musicalmac"]So you agree this new Google tablet is over two years late to the party? AdrianWerner

I wouldn't say their strategy failed, just that it's evolved to let Apple and Microsoft duke it out for the larger, higher-priced market while they hold dominance over the seven-inch market.

[QUOTE="musicalmac"]So you agree this new Google tablet is over two years late to the party? The original iPad's release marked a dramatic shift in mobile technology. The timing of this new Google tablet is as good as Microsoft's was with the original Zune... Zeviander

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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]So you agree this new Google tablet is over two years late to the party? Phoenix534

I wouldn't say their strategy failed, just that it's evolved to let Apple and Microsoft duke it out for the larger, higher-priced market while they hold dominance over the seven-inch market.

Amazon has the mindshare, better organized ecosystem and you can bet Fire 2 (which will be announced next month, propably before Nexus launches) will be either stronger or cheaper

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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]I don't think so. It's about a year to late to the party, since it's going after Nook and Kindle Fire. I would say the whole Google's tablet strategy failed though, as evidenced by the fact that their first branded tablet doesn't even attempt to compete with iPad. It's like they've given up.

AdrianWerner

I wouldn't say their strategy failed, just that it's evolved to let Apple and Microsoft duke it out for the larger, higher-priced market while they hold dominance over the seven-inch market.

Amazon has the mindshare, better organized ecosystem and you can bet Fire 2 (which will be announced next month, propably before Nexus launches) will be either stronger or cheaper

They don't need the Nexus 7 to be the topseller of the 7-inch market, just like they don't need the Nexus phones to top the phone market. The Nexus line has been a lot of Google showing off new stuff, be it hardware and/or OS.

I still don't see the point in owning this over an iPad 3 or iPad 2. Especially with Google's stance on phone apps doubling as tablet apps being just as fine. That thing is just a 7" Android phone. Then again, I'm sure Google knows this won't compete with iPads, it's built to compete with the Kindle Fire.

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I wouldn't say their strategy failed, just that it's evolved to let Apple and Microsoft duke it out for the larger, higher-priced market while they hold dominance over the seven-inch market.

Phoenix534

Amazon has the mindshare, better organized ecosystem and you can bet Fire 2 (which will be announced next month, propably before Nexus launches) will be either stronger or cheaper

They don't need the Nexus 7 to be the topseller of the 7-inch market, just like they don't need the Nexus phones to top the phone market. The Nexus line has been a lot of Google showing off new stuff, be it hardware and/or OS.

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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]The problem is, that this 7 inch matket is much smaller and even there I doubt they will be able to beat Amazon.

Amazon has the mindshare, better organized ecosystem and you can bet Fire 2 (which will be announced next month, propably before Nexus launches) will be either stronger or cheaper

lettuceman44

They don't need the Nexus 7 to be the topseller of the 7-inch market, just like they don't need the Nexus phones to top the phone market. The Nexus line has been a lot of Google showing off new stuff, be it hardware and/or OS.

It's going to show Jelly Bean and Tegra 3 which, as far as I know, has never been used in a seven-inch tablet before. This isn't a device to act as a baseline for all tablets, just seven-inch.

I will never understand why they are releasing new tablets, when the current ones are almost as capable of modern PCs .... gaming wise, tablets can't have good games, no buttons !!!

What is the point of all of this?

I will never understand why they are releasing new tablets, when the current ones are almost as capable of modern PCs .... gaming wise, tablets can't have good games, no buttons !!!

What is the point of all of this?

omho88

The Surface has a USB port you ignorant wank.

Games will support the Xbox 360 controller, which means it has better controls than a flopheld.

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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]The thing is: What makes me want to get this over the iPad? :? That's the problem with tablets; I don't see a reason, other than price, to get these other tables.Midnightshade29

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I will never understand why they are releasing new tablets, when the current ones are almost as capable of modern PCs .... gaming wise, tablets can't have good games, no buttons !!!

What is the point of all of this?

The Surface has a USB port you ignorant wank.

Games will support the Xbox 360 controller, which means it has better controls than a flopheld.

lool, what is the point of gaming on a tablet if I am gonna carry a controller everywhere I go ?! try thinking a little plzzz .......... you better game on laptop if you wanna use a gamepad you idiot !omho88

Well buy a man purse.

[QUOTE="Zeviander"]Your memory must not be working very well, or Apple has a great marketing department, because this device is extremely similar to the first iPad in terms of power.musicalmac

[QUOTE="omho88"]lool, what is the point of gaming on a tablet if I am gonna carry a controller everywhere I go ?! try thinking a little plzzz .......... you better game on laptop if you wanna use a gamepad you idiot !joarX

Well buy a man purse.

lool, what is the point of gaming on a tablet if I am gonna carry a controller everywhere I go ?! try thinking a little plzzz .......... you better game on laptop if you wanna use a gamepad you idiot !omho88

Well buy a man purse.

Well buy a man purse.

[QUOTE="omho88"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"] This. or a man bag which wou would be carrying a friggin laptop in anyway.MBirdy88

They don't need the Nexus 7 to be the topseller of the 7-inch market, just like they don't need the Nexus phones to top the phone market. The Nexus line has been a lot of Google showing off new stuff, be it hardware and/or OS.

Phoenix534

What's your opinion on the Surface, I am quite curious.MBirdy88

Interesting idea but, despite its specs, I don't like the idea of being tethered to the cloud (seeing as this thing only has 8 or 16GB of storage and no Micro SD card slot) so I think I'll give this one a pass. My Touchpad running ICS and Windows 7 Netbook will suffice for now.

Microsoft's Surface though...now that's a tablet idea I can get behind...as long as the price and specs are right.

The thing is: What makes me want to get this over the iPad? :? That's the problem with tablets; I don't see a reason, other than price, to get these other tables.bbkkristian

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]The thing is: What makes me want to get this over the iPad? :? That's the problem with tablets; I don't see a reason, other than price, to get these other tables.Eddie-Vedder

I think this is also relevant to our discussion. This company is planning to launch its second generation Mac-based tablet computer in early Fall 2012. It's easy to dual boot OSX and Windows on any Mac, meaning this little piece of hardware could be a compelling item to keep tabs on, especially when looking at a comparison to the i5 tablet MS is set to release next year.



Pretty interesting.musicalmac

Bassicaly it looks like the old Windows 7 slates, which are terrible. If you need OSX hybrid it would propably make more sense to just get a W8 one and turn it into hackintosh.

I wonder if Apple will ever go W8 way..it convertible that's OSX in laptop format and iOS when in tablet mode.

I think that few tablets are actually more capable than alot of cheap note/netbooks and low end laptops.

The most notable series of tablets are the transformer ones by asus. I currently own a tf101 and it's a great tablet for it's price.The tablet itself has a great battery life. With the keyboard dock attached it lasts for 2 days of heavy and light gaming with internet browing. The screen is fantastic however it is pretty reflective and is pretty annoying outside in the sunlight. The tablet with the dock feels like the weight of a note/netbook aswell. The pre installed office apps lets you create and edit word, excel and powerpoint files. The keyboard dock with the trackpad makes it easier.

The camera is meh and pictures come out grainy which is a downside. The build quality of the tablet is somewhat questionable. Me and others who own the tf101 have issues with dust getting under the lens. There is a slight gap inbetween the camera and the back panel which allows dust to get in. The build quality of the dock is great compared to the tablet but the tablet is more important

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The nexus 7 looks good and it's got a tegra 3 processor at a low price which challenges the kindle fire. Too bad the nexus 7 doesn't have a micro sd slot for more storage, other than that it's looking like a good yet cheap tablet

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As for gaming on phones and tablets it's good sometimes when playing games like angry birds, world of goo and some driving games. Other games like the modern combat series and anything similar, the controls are just horrible and hard to use.