Tales of Vesperia Confirmed for 360 and Star Ocean 4 is still up in the air

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#51 Gunraidan
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360 exclusive? Why would they do that, especially after the pathetic bombing of Eternal Sonata?
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#52 lawlessx
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360 exclusive? Why would they do that, especially after the pathetic bombing of Eternal Sonata?Gunraidan

eternal sonata was never really an 360 exclusive. only way this will become an 360 exclusive is if microsoft already made a deal with the developers.

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#53 supermechakirby
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Holy ****. Thats alot of "Tales of" games.

The last Tales game I played was Tales of Destiny on the PSX. Damn, that game was great Guess I got some catching up to do eh? :)

Ill probably pick up Vesperia on the 360 when it comes out.

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FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLL :D

That was a little extreme, but it's never been confirmed, so that is well justified.

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#55 BreakingPoint8
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360 exclusive? Why would they do that, especially after the pathetic bombing of Eternal Sonata?Gunraidan
Microsoft has deep pockets my friend, I would imagine they're paying Namco Bandai the difference.
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#56 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="Gunraidan"]360 exclusive? Why would they do that, especially after the pathetic bombing of Eternal Sonata?BreakingPoint8
Microsoft has deep pockets my friend, I would imagine they're paying Namco Bandai the difference.

look what i found

http://thirdworldgamer.blogspot.com/2007/12/news-flash-namcos-tales-of-vesperia.html

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#57 Gunraidan
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Microsoft has deep pockets my friend, I would imagine they're paying Namco Bandai the difference.
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But it just doesn't make sense. I mean Tales is a big franchise in Japan yes but not colossal. Plus their are the two facts of these types of games no being very popular in Japan and the fact that the system is already declared dead in the country.

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#58 Night_stalker01
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Where's Star Ocean: The second evolution on that list?
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[QUOTE="BreakingPoint8"][QUOTE="Gunraidan"]360 exclusive? Why would they do that, especially after the pathetic bombing of Eternal Sonata?lawlessx

Microsoft has deep pockets my friend, I would imagine they're paying Namco Bandai the difference.

look what i found

http://thirdworldgamer.blogspot.com/2007/12/news-flash-namcos-tales-of-vesperia.html

To be honest I checked a while ago, their source code. They had already changed it but if you look at the title it's not Vesperia, it's Innocence in that source code.

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[QUOTE="kiruyama"]Eh? Namco hasn't announced where Vesperia is going. Most likely going to be multiplat. The only hint to exclusivity are some metatags on their site. If its exclusive to 360, a console where JRPGs are shunned, then I hope Namco is getting plenty of money from MS from the deal. That, and/or they're confident Tales of Innocence and Symphonia 2 will do well enough to the point it doesn't affect their revenue much.Pripyat

One should read the OP before posting in a thread.

And brushing your teeth twice a day is whats recommended by dentists.

What's your point? Namco still hasn't announced what platforms its on. The OP links to a Japanese composer's english web site. If you think that's a credible source regarding the exclusivity of a game, then thats fine with me. I however, prefer to wait until official announcements are made.

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[QUOTE="BreakingPoint8"]Microsoft has deep pockets my friend, I would imagine they're paying Namco Bandai the difference.
Gunraidan

But it just doesn't make sense. I mean Tales is a big franchise in Japan yes but not colossal. Plus their are the two facts of these types of games no being very popular in Japan and the fact that the system is already declared dead in the country.

I guess Microsoft wants it as a filler title to keep some momentum until they release one of their bigger titles like Blue Dragon 2 or Infinite Undiscovery. Things are bad for them in Japan yes, but we both know things could be very very worse.

Honestly I would push to get exclusive games from Namco Bandai and Atlus on the platform, their RPGs cater to a niche market, but the Xbox 360 will never have mass appeal in Japan so they NEED that loyal niche market. Microsoft must be paying well if Namco Bandai is continuing to make deals with them. Hell, when Microsoft flashed the green even Square Enix sold out.

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#62 kiruyama
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="BreakingPoint8"][QUOTE="Gunraidan"]360 exclusive? Why would they do that, especially after the pathetic bombing of Eternal Sonata?-RPGamer-

Microsoft has deep pockets my friend, I would imagine they're paying Namco Bandai the difference.

look what i found

http://thirdworldgamer.blogspot.com/2007/12/news-flash-namcos-tales-of-vesperia.html

To be honest I checked a while ago, their source code. They had already changed it but if you look at the title it's not Vesperia, it's Innocence in that source code.

The japanese writing before Xbox 360 supposedly says tales of vesperia. It goes something like 'Tales of Innocence Tales of Vesperia 360 Tales '. What it does mean is the 360 will most likely be getting a Tales game. Vesperia? Maybe.

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#63 Wanderer5
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Tales of Vesperia? I never heard of it. I guess it was announced recently. I wouldn't say that site is 100% right about this but I guessing that the dev are planing to have it on either 360 and PS3, while the Wii gets ToS 2.

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#64 Juice_24
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Listen x-box fans face the facts!

1. Yes M$ has made a small amount of grund in japan but i t will not be a success/

2.(remember jet set radio,Panzer dragoon,blue dragon? There seems to be a trend of M$ running Good japanese developers into the ground pumping out games that No one on either contient will buy.

3. Face it japan and the US are 2 differnt places. 360 is just to western to like japanese games and vice versa. MOST if not all 360 games do NOt go beyond the realm of shooters racers ect. Remember M$ CUt out a place for itself in the market by marketing themselves as a real mans console and Nintendo as kiddy. They made there bed noe they must sleep in it

4. Ill bet you anything thet tals wii sales will destroy the 360s sales. the devepoler and publisher will nearly poop there pants over the numbers

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#65 jg4xchamp
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It will be multiplat.

Why is everybody so sure it will be an exclusive, come on now it isnt like JRPGs will be less expensive, a multiplat is basically a given in my opinion.

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#66 Gunraidan
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guess Microsoft wants it as a filler title to keep some momentum until they release one of their bigger titles like Blue Dragon 2 or Infinite Undiscovery. Things are bad for them in Japan yes, but we both know things could be very very worse.

Honestly I would push to get exclusive games from Namco Bandai and Atlus on the platform, their RPGs cater to a niche market, but the Xbox 360 will never have mass appeal in Japan so they NEED that loyal niche market. Microsoft must be paying well if Namco Bandai is continuing to make deals with them. Hell, when Microsoft flashed the green even Square Enix sold out.

BreakingPoint8

I personally think that Microsoft gets these games not just for Japan but for all gamr who are in favore of Japanese stylled games. I mean face it the market Microsoft is trying to get in Japan is far too small to support a profit (hell SONY can't even do it), however with the millions of JRPG fans world-wide it couldn't be as bad as it sounds. There's also the fact of variety. It's no secret that in terms of games, one could say that the 360 solely appeals to the American teen or college kid and they wouldn't be too far off. That isn't to say the games don't appeal to other regions, but the games the console focus's on are usually towards the American audience. Because of this a fair share of gamers complain about variety. Having a JRPG on the platform is a big notice, much more of a notice then say an Adventure game or a Fighting game. It's similar to Nintendo having Manhunt 2 or No More Heroes on their platform. If they just simply had Half-Life or Devil May Cry I wouldn't be surprised if people brought up Nintendo's "kiddie" image a bit more often. But because two very mature oriented games are on the platform it gets a little toned down.

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#67 Luxen90
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Hmm I dont see where it is confirmed on the website it just says Tales of Vesperia.
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#68 kirk4ever
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Hmm I dont see where it is confirmed on the website it just says Tales of Vesperia.Luxen90

it was just removed..

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#69 Luxen90
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So then I guess we can just say its multiplatform as of now on until it is confirmed.
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#70 JPOBS
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Tales of Vesperia > Tals of symphonia 2
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#71 Cristallis
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How the hell do Namco shareholders even agree on this?
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#72 Luxen90
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agree on what?

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Listen x-box fans face the facts!

1. Yes M$ has made a small amount of grund in japan but i t will not be a success/

2.(remember jet set radio,Panzer dragoon,blue dragon? There seems to be a trend of M$ running Good japanese developers into the ground pumping out games that No one on either contient will buy.

3. Face it japan and the US are 2 differnt places. 360 is just to western to like japanese games and vice versa. MOST if not all 360 games do NOt go beyond the realm of shooters racers ect. Remember M$ CUt out a place for itself in the market by marketing themselves as a real mans console and Nintendo as kiddy. They made there bed noe they must sleep in it

4. Ill bet you anything thet tals wii sales will destroy the 360s sales. the devepoler and publisher will nearly poop there pants over the numbers

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Did you come in here for the sole purpose of revealing yourself to be a jackass?

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#74 PantherFlash
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Namco Bandai been bragging all day about focusing the worldwide market for sometime now. JRPGs are meant for everyone, not just the japanese you know. And PS3 still have to catch up with Wii and Xbox360 if they want to make a tie with the two best selling consoles. Wii and 360 are neck to neck fighting for #1 this year while all the naysayers continue to attack 360's disadvantage on jrpgs selling in japan. What a bunch of insecured idiots..........:lol:

This is good news to Xbox owners, but bad news to PS3 owners and Sony.PS2once was the King of RPGs in the last generation console wars and now they're about to meet their greatest fears this generation. With only Final Fantasy 13 and White Knight Story; how the hell could they deal with Xbox360's own RPG line up? (PS. We're talking console, NOT handheld. DS and PSP don't count)

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[QUOTE="EPaul"]A tales game exclusive to 360 makes no sense it must be multi-platform how are they going to sell it in japanlawlessx

timed excusive maybe? unless this ends up like ace combat 6

that game is definitly coming to ps3

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http://sakuraba.cocoebiz.com/discography/

This site confrims it all.

Namco Tales Studio (Bandai Namco, Telenet Japan)

  • Tales of series
    • Tales of Phantasia (SFC, PS1, GBA, PSP)¹
    • Tales of Destiny (PS1, PS2)¹
    • Tales of Phantasia: Narikiri Dungeon (GB)³
    • Tales of Eternia (PS1, PSP)¹
    • Tales of Fandom Vol.1 (PS1)³
    • Tales of the World: Narikiri Dungeon 2 (GBA)³
    • Tales of Destiny 2 (PS2, PSP)¹
    • Tales of Symphonia (GC, PS2)¹
    • Tales of Rebirth (PS2, PSP)¹
    • Tales of the World: Narikiri Dungeon 3 (GBA)³
    • Tales of Eternia Online (PC)³
    • Tales of the Abyss (PS2)¹
    • Tales of the Tempest (DS)
    • Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology (PSP)³
    • Tales of Fandom Vol.2 (PS2)³
    • Tales of Destiny: Director's Cut (PS2)¹
    • Tales of Symphonia: Knight of Ratatosk (Wii)³
    • Tales of Vesparia (XB360)¹

tri-Ace (Square Enix, Microsoft)

  • Infinite Undiscovery (XB360)
  • Star Ocean series
    • Star Ocean (SFC)
    • Star Ocean Second Story (PS1)
    • Star Ocean Blue Sphere (GBC)
    • Star Ocean: Till the End of Time (PS2)
    • Star Ocean: Till the End of Time: Director's Cut (PS2)
    • Star Ocean: First Departure (PSP)
    • Star Ocean 4

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Interesting, I would have made it for the Wii.

Japanese devs confuse me, Blue Dragon, LO, and Eternal Sonata sell like trash(serious trash, I think ES only hit 150k) and they decide to dev for the 360?

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#77 Luxen90
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Did you even look at the website? You just believed it without even checking the source.
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#78 lawlessx
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Did you even look at the website? You just believed it without even checking the source.Luxen90

the 360 labeled has been removed.

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#79 Luxen90
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That why I ask did he even look at the website.
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#80 lawlessx
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That why I ask did he even look at the website.Luxen90

it was removed afew hours ago..

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[QUOTE="Luxen90"]Did you even look at the website? You just believed it without even checking the source.lawlessx

the 360 labeled has been removed.

so it's not 360 exclusive? that makes more sense. 360 = death of japanese devs.

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[QUOTE="Luxen90"]Did you even look at the website? You just believed it without even checking the source.lawlessx

the 360 labeled has been removed.

Yeah, but first they changed it to this:

This is ever further confirmation.They wanted to get caught, this shows that it wasn't just a mistake.

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#83 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="Luxen90"]Did you even look at the website? You just believed it without even checking the source.Koalakommander

the 360 labeled has been removed.

so it's not 360 exclusive? that makes more sense. 360 = death of japanese devs.

whatever you say

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#84 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="Luxen90"]Did you even look at the website? You just believed it without even checking the source.Pripyat

the 360 labeled has been removed.

Yeah, but first they changed it to this:

This is ever further confirmation.They wanted to get caught, this shows that it wasn't just a mistake.

where did you find this?

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[QUOTE="Pripyat"][QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="Luxen90"]Did you even look at the website? You just believed it without even checking the source.lawlessx

the 360 labeled has been removed.

Yeah, but first they changed it to this:

This is ever further confirmation.They wanted to get caught, this shows that it wasn't just a mistake.

where did you find this?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=220822&page=19

Post #918

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#86 Just_in
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You probably thought Eternia Sonata was exclusive to 360 also, dumb lemming.
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#87 Luxen90
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It can easily be a mistake as easily as it can be true that it is exclusive. LIKE I SAID its multiplatform until Namco themselves says its for exclusive otherwise get back on your knees praying for it to be exclusive for a system you want it to be on.
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#88 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="Pripyat"][QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="Luxen90"]Did you even look at the website? You just believed it without even checking the source.Pripyat

the 360 labeled has been removed.

Yeah, but first they changed it to this:

This is ever further confirmation.They wanted to get caught, this shows that it wasn't just a mistake.

where did you find this?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=220822&page=19

Post #918

well its pretty much a givin that it will be on the 360..we just dont know if it will remain on the 360 or not.

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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="Luxen90"]Did you even look at the website? You just believed it without even checking the source.Koalakommander

the 360 labeled has been removed.

so it's not 360 exclusive? that makes more sense. 360 = death of japanese devs.

can someone just tell me what's going on. First I see Tales for 360, then everyones like oh click on the link it isnt true. Now i'm seeing pictures of source coding and this whole thing sounds really shaky.

Is it 360 exclusive or not?

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#90 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="Koalakommander"][QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="Luxen90"]Did you even look at the website? You just believed it without even checking the source.Koalakommander

the 360 labeled has been removed.

so it's not 360 exclusive? that makes more sense. 360 = death of japanese devs.

can someone just tell me what's going on. First I see Tales for 360, then everyones like oh click on the link it isnt true. Now i'm seeing pictures of source coding and this whole thing sounds really shaky.

Is it 360 exclusive or not?

well so far we are hearing about it for the 360..so i guess its an exclusive untill namco says something

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#91 Luxen90
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The source coding that Pripyat posting is before the site took 360 off. Koalakommanderj ust wait till there is a official confirmation from Namco themselves.
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#92 Koalakommander
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[QUOTE="Koalakommander"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"][QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="Luxen90"]Did you even look at the website? You just believed it without even checking the source.lawlessx

the 360 labeled has been removed.

so it's not 360 exclusive? that makes more sense. 360 = death of japanese devs.

can someone just tell me what's going on. First I see Tales for 360, then everyones like oh click on the link it isnt true. Now i'm seeing pictures of source coding and this whole thing sounds really shaky.

Is it 360 exclusive or not?

well so far we are hearing about it for the 360..so i guess its an exclusive untill namco says something

It has to be multiplat. There's no way a dev is that stupid.

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#93 Kahuna_1
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If MS pays off another dev it will be exclusive...Sony really needs to start buying games too, they did a good job with their first party support and they got 3rd party games, but now they need to start buying some games like MS has been doing all this time.
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#94 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"][QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="Luxen90"]Did you even look at the website? You just believed it without even checking the source.Koalakommander

the 360 labeled has been removed.

so it's not 360 exclusive? that makes more sense. 360 = death of japanese devs.

can someone just tell me what's going on. First I see Tales for 360, then everyones like oh click on the link it isnt true. Now i'm seeing pictures of source coding and this whole thing sounds really shaky.

Is it 360 exclusive or not?

well so far we are hearing about it for the 360..so i guess its an exclusive untill namco says something

It has to be multiplat. There's no way a dev is that stupid.

unless they're being paid by microsoft.

besides i think the music composer of the game would know which platform the game he is working on would be on. he clearly took it off the site because he released infomation that wasnt suppose to be givin out yet.

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#95 lordxymor
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Namco Bandai been bragging all day about focusing the worldwide market for sometime now. JRPGs are meant for everyone, not just the japanese you know. And PS3 still have to catch up with Wii and Xbox360 if they want to make a tie with the two best selling consoles. Wii and 360 are neck to neck fighting for #1 this year while all the naysayers continue to attack 360's disadvantage on jrpgs selling in japan. What a bunch of insecured idiots..........:lol:

This is good news to Xbox owners, but bad news to PS3 owners and Sony.PS2once was the King of RPGs in the last generation console wars and now they're about to meet their greatest fears this generation. With only Final Fantasy 13 and White Knight Story; how the hell could they deal with Xbox360's own RPG line up? (PS. We're talking console, NOT handheld. DS and PSP don't count)

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Final Fantasy 13 and White Knight Story...

They have 2 FF13 exclusively, WKS, MegaTen(Pes won't RPG of 2007 if you think this is nothing) and Diagaea.

If you're saying this JRPG line-up is weak, there's no argument I can make.

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#96 ChinoJamesKeene
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It doesn't make that much sense though, we haven't heard much about localisation, i would think they'd wait to see how the Japanese PS3 market recieved the title before shipping it stateside. And there virtually no point releasing the game for 360 in Japan, very few poeple will buy it.
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#97 PantherFlash
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[QUOTE="PantherFlash"]

Namco Bandai been bragging all day about focusing the worldwide market for sometime now. JRPGs are meant for everyone, not just the japanese you know. And PS3 still have to catch up with Wii and Xbox360 if they want to make a tie with the two best selling consoles. Wii and 360 are neck to neck fighting for #1 this year while all the naysayers continue to attack 360's disadvantage on jrpgs selling in japan. What a bunch of insecured idiots..........:lol:

This is good news to Xbox owners, but bad news to PS3 owners and Sony.PS2once was the King of RPGs in the last generation console wars and now they're about to meet their greatest fears this generation. With only Final Fantasy 13 and White Knight Story; how the hell could they deal with Xbox360's own RPG line up? (PS. We're talking console, NOT handheld. DS and PSP don't count)

lordxymor

Final Fantasy 13 and White Knight Story...

They have 2 FF13 exclusively, WKS, MegaTen(Pes won't RPG of 2007 if you think this is nothing) and Diagaea.

If you're saying this JRPG line-up is weak, there's no argument I can make.

They have 3 well known JRPG franchise and one original jrpg which I admit could justifiy as a great line up. But adding more for the Western rpg crowd could do better imo.We'll see what else is in store once more new titles will be announced. I'm confident with Xbox360's various different types of rpgs coming in 2008 now with Atlus US publishing games.

Xbox360- Blue Dragon 2, Operation Darkness, Sp Force 3, Cry On, Mass Effect 2(Bioware already announce a sequel), Fallout 3, Infinite Undiscovery, Fable 2and Magna Carta 2 which is still in the dark. A combination of different RPGs from both western and eastern developers which some may turn out good while others average. Yes, there is no denying this line up.....