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#1 kozzy1234
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Yup, Team Fortress2 on PC is the king of all online FPS. Sorry Halo and COD, but TF2 >>>> ALL!

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Not only is it the best online game this gen but might be the best onlien game ever.

That is all!

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#2 chaoz-king
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Counter-Strike for me.

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#3 Mr_Nordquist
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TF2 on PC is an unbalanced game filled with bugs, and broken patches. Just today I finally got experience horrible framerate. I thought it was just a myth even though it's such a common problem with TF2. Maybe it's caused by new hardware, or new drivers, but nope. Nothing changed with my computer since the day I got TF2, and yet here I am with horrible framerate that was 60 fps just yesterday :(

CS 1.6 still rightfully holds the crown. TF2 is a piece of garbage.

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#4 metroidfood
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Eh, I've played it and while I acknowledge it's a good game, I just don't think it's that fun. I'd take some good ol' Halo:CE over it. :)

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#5 10MP
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for now i agree but bf 3 will probably take fps king if they dont casualise it.

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#6 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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Counter-Strike for me.
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TF2 on PC is an unbalanced game filled with bugs, and broken patches. Just today I finally got experience horrible framerate. I thought it was just a myth even though it's such a common problem with TF2. Maybe it's caused by new hardware, or new drivers, but nope. Nothing changed with my computer since the day I got TF2, and yet here I am with horrible framerate that was 60 fps just yesterday :(

CS 1.6 still rightfully holds the crown. TF2 is a piece of garbage.

Mr_Nordquist
Yeah. I've found no bugs, the game is balanced and the patches have been perfect.
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#8 pyromaniac223
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[QUOTE="Mr_Nordquist"]

TF2 on PC is an unbalanced game filled with bugs, and broken patches. Just today I finally got experience horrible framerate. I thought it was just a myth even though it's such a common problem with TF2. Maybe it's caused by new hardware, or new drivers, but nope. Nothing changed with my computer since the day I got TF2, and yet here I am with horrible framerate that was 60 fps just yesterday :(

CS 1.6 still rightfully holds the crown. TF2 is a piece of garbage.

aaronmullan
Yeah. I've found no bugs, the game is balanced and the patches have been perfect.

This. It's worked perfect for me, and the game is really fantastic.
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#9 ReaperV7
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dont really care. Killzone 2 MP is great fun and thats what I like to play.
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#10 DaViD_99
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yup i agree. CS is great too.
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#11 Mr_Nordquist
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[QUOTE="Mr_Nordquist"]

TF2 on PC is an unbalanced game filled with bugs, and broken patches. Just today I finally got experience horrible framerate. I thought it was just a myth even though it's such a common problem with TF2. Maybe it's caused by new hardware, or new drivers, but nope. Nothing changed with my computer since the day I got TF2, and yet here I am with horrible framerate that was 60 fps just yesterday :(

CS 1.6 still rightfully holds the crown. TF2 is a piece of garbage.

aaronmullan

Yeah. I've found no bugs, the game is balanced and the patches have been perfect.

rofl at thinking TF2 is balanced.

Also sad you don't remember hitboxes being incredibly messed up for the Ambassador a few weeks ago? Or spy backstabs failing to work? Or do you not play that class?

Let's not forget when they fixed splash damage, increased FaN damage, reduced damage caused during a sandman stun, or took away the 50 health added by the backburner. There's a reason they had to fix this, and that is because for week and weeks these parts of the game were horribly broken.

How someone can not catch onto these things is beyond me especially when Valve has a website that shows everything.

Let me ask anyone who plays TF2 and thinks it's amazing. What class do you play the most?

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#12 ArisShadows
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Best online game ever. When did Starcraft become nonexistant?
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="Mr_Nordquist"]

TF2 on PC is an unbalanced game filled with bugs, and broken patches. Just today I finally got experience horrible framerate. I thought it was just a myth even though it's such a common problem with TF2. Maybe it's caused by new hardware, or new drivers, but nope. Nothing changed with my computer since the day I got TF2, and yet here I am with horrible framerate that was 60 fps just yesterday :(

CS 1.6 still rightfully holds the crown. TF2 is a piece of garbage.

Mr_Nordquist

Yeah. I've found no bugs, the game is balanced and the patches have been perfect.

rofl at thinking TF2 is balanced.

Also sad you don't remember hitboxes being incredibly messed up for the Ambassador a few weeks ago? Or spy backstabs failing to work? Or do you not play that class?

Let's not forget when they fixed splash damage, increased FaN damage, reduced damage caused during a sandman stun, or took away the 50 health added by the backburner. There's a reason they had to fix this, and that is because for week and weeks these parts of the game were horribly broken.

How someone can not catch onto these things is beyond me especially when Valve has a website that shows everything.

Let me ask anyone who plays TF2 and thinks it's amazing. What class do you play the most?

I suppose you hate just about every shooter out there then. Seeing asupdates/patches and changes to the game are a huge fault in your opinion. Seeing as every shooter and I'd say 95% of the games out there have some sort of update on the consoles or a patch on PC, you must really hate...well...all shooters and probably most games. Because most of them do some sort of alteration to the game after release either through an update or a patch. This is like faulting online for having lag sometimes...it's just stupid.

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#14 TwilightSoilder
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Best online game ever. When did Starcraft become nonexistant?ArisShadows
He said all Online FPS, not all online games period. And, I have to agree with TC, TF2 is superb. :)
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="Mr_Nordquist"]

TF2 on PC is an unbalanced game filled with bugs, and broken patches. Just today I finally got experience horrible framerate. I thought it was just a myth even though it's such a common problem with TF2. Maybe it's caused by new hardware, or new drivers, but nope. Nothing changed with my computer since the day I got TF2, and yet here I am with horrible framerate that was 60 fps just yesterday :(

CS 1.6 still rightfully holds the crown. TF2 is a piece of garbage.

Mr_Nordquist

Yeah. I've found no bugs, the game is balanced and the patches have been perfect.

rofl at thinking TF2 is balanced.

Also sad you don't remember hitboxes being incredibly messed up for the Ambassador a few weeks ago? Or spy backstabs failing to work? Or do you not play that class?

Let's not forget when they fixed splash damage, increased FaN damage, reduced damage caused during a sandman stun, or took away the 50 health added by the backburner. There's a reason they had to fix this, and that is because for week and weeks these parts of the game were horribly broken.

How someone can not catch onto these things is beyond me especially when Valve has a website that shows everything.

Let me ask anyone who plays TF2 and thinks it's amazing. What class do you play the most?

The patches introduce small imbalances that are always addressed within the week. The game is pretty damn well balanced, otherwise there would be a concentration with a single overpowered class, which there's not. They weren't "horribly broken," except for the spy glitches. They were small imbalances.
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#16 Brownesque
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Red Orchestra is a game that I prefer substantially over Team Fortress 2. Red Orchestra is not as balanced, but it is a thing of GD beauty when you get a large battle.
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#17 aaronmullan
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="Mr_Nordquist"]

TF2 on PC is an unbalanced game filled with bugs, and broken patches. Just today I finally got experience horrible framerate. I thought it was just a myth even though it's such a common problem with TF2. Maybe it's caused by new hardware, or new drivers, but nope. Nothing changed with my computer since the day I got TF2, and yet here I am with horrible framerate that was 60 fps just yesterday :(

CS 1.6 still rightfully holds the crown. TF2 is a piece of garbage.

Mr_Nordquist

Yeah. I've found no bugs, the game is balanced and the patches have been perfect.

rofl at thinking TF2 is balanced.

Also sad you don't remember hitboxes being incredibly messed up for the Ambassador a few weeks ago? Or spy backstabs failing to work? Or do you not play that class?

Let's not forget when they fixed splash damage, increased FaN damage, reduced damage caused during a sandman stun, or took away the 50 health added by the backburner. There's a reason they had to fix this, and that is because for week and weeks these parts of the game were horribly broken.

How someone can not catch onto these things is beyond me especially when Valve has a website that shows everything.

Let me ask anyone who plays TF2 and thinks it's amazing. What class do you play the most?

I play Spy alot. Clocking in around 13 hours of him alone. They fixed the hit boxes within a day. I play all the classes equally, that's how I know it is balanced. Every class has a counter class.
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#18 jpKNOCKOUT
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id definently agree, especially because of the support it recieves

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Armed Assault ------------------------------>All other PC and Console FPS

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#20 Brownesque
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[QUOTE="Mr_Nordquist"]

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"] Yeah. I've found no bugs, the game is balanced and the patches have been perfect. pyromaniac223

rofl at thinking TF2 is balanced.

Also sad you don't remember hitboxes being incredibly messed up for the Ambassador a few weeks ago? Or spy backstabs failing to work? Or do you not play that class?

Let's not forget when they fixed splash damage, increased FaN damage, reduced damage caused during a sandman stun, or took away the 50 health added by the backburner. There's a reason they had to fix this, and that is because for week and weeks these parts of the game were horribly broken.

How someone can not catch onto these things is beyond me especially when Valve has a website that shows everything.

Let me ask anyone who plays TF2 and thinks it's amazing. What class do you play the most?

The patches introduce small imbalances that are always addressed within the week. The game is pretty damn well balanced, otherwise there would be a concentration with a single overpowered class, which there's not. They weren't "horribly broken," except for the spy glitches. They were small imbalances.

The balance between classes isn't a game balance issue since there is no player cap with any given class and even if there was some insanely overpowered class you could just have a 16v16 with everyone using that class. The classes are so individually specialized that it's kind of silly to see somebody say that there are small imbalances between the classes. What exactly is a sniper going to do to compensate against a charging Pyro? What is a Scout going to do against an engineer? The classes are designed with rock-paper-scissors.
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#21 Mr_Nordquist
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[QUOTE="Mr_Nordquist"]

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"] Yeah. I've found no bugs, the game is balanced and the patches have been perfect. aaronmullan

rofl at thinking TF2 is balanced.

Also sad you don't remember hitboxes being incredibly messed up for the Ambassador a few weeks ago? Or spy backstabs failing to work? Or do you not play that class?

Let's not forget when they fixed splash damage, increased FaN damage, reduced damage caused during a sandman stun, or took away the 50 health added by the backburner. There's a reason they had to fix this, and that is because for week and weeks these parts of the game were horribly broken.

How someone can not catch onto these things is beyond me especially when Valve has a website that shows everything.

Let me ask anyone who plays TF2 and thinks it's amazing. What class do you play the most?

I play Spy alot. Clocking in around 13 hours of him alone. They fixed the hit boxes within a day. I play all the classes equally, that's how I know it is balanced. Every class has a counter class.

"Every class has a counter class"


That means it's balanced......:roll:

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[QUOTE="ArisShadows"]Best online game ever. When did Starcraft become nonexistant?TwilightSoilder
He said all Online FPS, not all online games period. And, I have to agree with TC, TF2 is superb. :)

No he then said. quote on quote " Not only is it the best online game this gen but might be the best onlien game ever."
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#23 Mr_Nordquist
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I suppose you hate just about every shooter out there then. Seeing asupdates/patches and changes to the game are a huge fault in your opinion. Seeing as every shooter and I'd say 95% of the games out there have some sort of update on the consoles or a patch on PC, you must really hate...well...all shooters and probably most games. Because most of them do some sort of alteration to the game after release either through an update or a patch. This is like faulting online for having lag sometimes...it's just stupid.

Puckhog04

No, no no I actually love just about every shooter out there. Patches/updates aren't faults, but you know what is? Not fixing gameplay problems that exist, or breaking the working aspects of the game.


TF2 is just off in a corner of it's own being consistently broken in some way or another, and always imbalanced.

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[QUOTE="TwilightSoilder"][QUOTE="ArisShadows"]Best online game ever. When did Starcraft become nonexistant?ArisShadows
He said all Online FPS, not all online games period. And, I have to agree with TC, TF2 is superb. :)

No he then said. quote on quote " Not only is it the best online game this gen but might be the best onlien game ever."

Guess I missed that. :P
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#25 aaronmullan
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"Every class has a counter class"


That means it's balanced......:roll:

Mr_Nordquist

Yeah, as another person said it is "Rock-Paper-Scissors" and that is balanced. Someone attacks you with something, your team mate counters it with something else. The their team mates come in with something to counter that etc. Every RTS game has it. It is game balance at its finest.

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[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

I suppose you hate just about every shooter out there then. Seeing asupdates/patches and changes to the game are a huge fault in your opinion. Seeing as every shooter and I'd say 95% of the games out there have some sort of update on the consoles or a patch on PC, you must really hate...well...all shooters and probably most games. Because most of them do some sort of alteration to the game after release either through an update or a patch. This is like faulting online for having lag sometimes...it's just stupid.

Mr_Nordquist

No, no no I actually love just about every shooter out there. Patches/updates aren't faults, but you know what is? Not fixing gameplay problems that exist, or breaking the working aspects of the game.


TF2 is just off in a corner of it's own being consistently broken in some way or another, and always imbalanced.

They do their best. Thousands upon thousands play it everyday and are constantly reporting stuff that needs to be addressed. No game is perfect.

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[QUOTE="Mr_Nordquist"]

TF2 on PC is an unbalanced game filled with bugs, and broken patches. Just today I finally got experience horrible framerate. I thought it was just a myth even though it's such a common problem with TF2. Maybe it's caused by new hardware, or new drivers, but nope. Nothing changed with my computer since the day I got TF2, and yet here I am with horrible framerate that was 60 fps just yesterday :(

CS 1.6 still rightfully holds the crown. TF2 is a piece of garbage.

aaronmullan

Yeah. I've found no bugs, the game is balanced and the patches have been perfect.

Co-sign, TF2 only gets better imo with time.

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Out of Killzone 2, Halo 3, CoD4, Resistance 1, Resistance 2, Left 4 Dead, Rianbow Six Vegas, Unreal Tournament 3, and TPS like Gears, Gears2, and Warhawk Team Fortress 2 is probably my least favorite online shooter this gen :(
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Out of Killzone 2, Halo 3, CoD4, Resistance 1, Resistance 2, Left 4 Dead, Rianbow Six Vegas, Unreal Tournament 3, and TPS like Gears, Gears2, and Warhawk Team Fortress 2 is probably my least favorite online shooter this gen :(Couth_

Sounds like you have only played the console version :P
Played it on ps3 or 360? :roll:

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No. Fortress Forever is better than Team Fortress 2.

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No. Fortress Forever is better than Team Fortress 2.

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Im a big fan of that to

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[QUOTE="Couth_"]Out of Killzone 2, Halo 3, CoD4, Resistance 1, Resistance 2, Left 4 Dead, Rianbow Six Vegas, Unreal Tournament 3, and TPS like Gears, Gears2, and Warhawk Team Fortress 2 is probably my least favorite online shooter this gen :(kozzy1234

Sounds like you have only played the console version :P
Played it on ps3 or 360? :roll:

I played it on 360 and there wasn't even enough people online to get a full game going.. But I own it on PC, and I just don't like it for some reason

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#33 Gta3-fan334
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Nah. I think Halo 3, Sven COOP, Dystoopa and TF1 are better games. :)

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#34 kidcool189
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tf2 is fantastic, and one of the best of all time but counter strike 1.6 scrims still take the cake for online fps, especially with friends
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="Couth_"]Out of Killzone 2, Halo 3, CoD4, Resistance 1, Resistance 2, Left 4 Dead, Rianbow Six Vegas, Unreal Tournament 3, and TPS like Gears, Gears2, and Warhawk Team Fortress 2 is probably my least favorite online shooter this gen :(Couth_

Sounds like you have only played the console version :P
Played it on ps3 or 360? :roll:

I played it on 360 and there wasn't even enough people online to get a full game going.. But I own it on PC, and I just don't like it for some reason

Fair enough bud. I thought the game was decent on ps3 and 360, but i cant get enough of it on pc with all the new weapons, user made maps, tons of servers,etc.. it feels like a totally differnt game to me. I bought halo3, cod4/5, killzone2, and all the big name FPS this gen, but non gives me the enjoyment of TF2 on pc.

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I love the reasoning which backs up your post... oh wait, that's right, I didn't see any. :?
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Yeah, as another person said it is "Rock-Paper-Scissors" and that is balanced. Someone attacks you with something, your team mate counters it with something else. The their team mates come in with something to counter that etc. Every RTS game has it. It is game balance at its finest.

aaronmullan

That's the issue I have with Team Fortress 2. It turned the original game of quick-paced, lateral thinking teamwork into a game of rock-paper-scissors in an attempt to sell to the masses. It may be a good game, but it's disgusting compared to the first Team Fortress.

Even then, purists will argue that the original Quake mod was far better than TFC.

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#38 Bumzur
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Sorry dude. CS:S is still king.
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Sorry dude. CS:S is still king.Bumzur
1.6>>>>>CSS
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#40 kozzy1234
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I love the reasoning which backs up your post... oh wait, that's right, I didn't see any. :?Stevo_the_gamer

Great gameplay, amazing user made content, good graphics, its got humour and its got the highest fun factor for an online FPS for me this gen.

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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]

Yeah, as another person said it is "Rock-Paper-Scissors" and that is balanced. Someone attacks you with something, your team mate counters it with something else. The their team mates come in with something to counter that etc. Every RTS game has it. It is game balance at its finest.

FrozenLiquid

That's the issue I have with Team Fortress 2. It turned the original game of quick-paced, lateral thinking teamwork into a game of rock-paper-scissors in an attempt to sell to the masses. It may be a good game, but it's disgusting compared to the first Team Fortress.

Even then, purists will argue that the original Quake mod was far better than TFC.

They are all very good imo. I said it "MIGHT" be the best onlien FPS ever (not that it is, just that in the future it might be). Its defiantly in my top 3 of all time, but defiantly my favorite fps onlien game this gen.

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#42 Bumzur
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[QUOTE="Bumzur"]Sorry dude. CS:S is still king.pyromaniac223
1.6>>>>>CSS

1.6 is good, but I have to admit it's become dated. There's absolutely no reason to still play 1.6 unless you have a chump computer.
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#43 tman93
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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="Mr_Nordquist"]

TF2 on PC is an unbalanced game filled with bugs, and broken patches. Just today I finally got experience horrible framerate. I thought it was just a myth even though it's such a common problem with TF2. Maybe it's caused by new hardware, or new drivers, but nope. Nothing changed with my computer since the day I got TF2, and yet here I am with horrible framerate that was 60 fps just yesterday :(

CS 1.6 still rightfully holds the crown. TF2 is a piece of garbage.

Yeah. I've found no bugs, the game is balanced and the patches have been perfect.

This. It's worked perfect for me, and the game is really fantastic.

Same here, ive never seen or even heard of the problems that guy was stating, your computer must not be very decent.
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#44 krunkfu2
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Let me ask anyone who plays TF2 and thinks it's amazing. What class do you play the most?

Mr_Nordquist

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#45 kidcool189
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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="Bumzur"]Sorry dude. CS:S is still king.Bumzur
1.6>>>>>CSS

1.6 is good, but I have to admit it's become dated. There's absolutely no reason to still play 1.6 unless you have a chump computer.

uhhhh, much better/satisfying gunplay/recoil....and thats a HUGE reason i have a core2duo e4400 @3.0ghz and a gtx260 c216, and i wouldnt even think twice about playing source, maybe for a little pubbing, but 1.6 all the way when it comes to scrims and competitive play
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#46 Bumzur
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[QUOTE="kidcool189"][QUOTE="Bumzur"][QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] 1.6>>>>>CSS

1.6 is good, but I have to admit it's become dated. There's absolutely no reason to still play 1.6 unless you have a chump computer.

uhhhh, much better/satisfying gunplay/recoil....and thats a HUGE reason i have a core2duo e4400 @3.0ghz and a gtx260 c216, and i wouldnt even think twice about playing source, maybe for a little pubbing, but 1.6 all the way when it comes to scrims and competitive play

You know when someone is arguing about something as little as recoil patterns - they just might be an elitist. I'd choose CS:S on the simple grounds that HL-Engine games have noticeable mouselag. Oh yea, and it looks a lot better, has ragdoll, and is more fun to play.
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#47 Chiddaling
Member since 2008 • 9106 Posts
You got that right Kozzy ;) I can't find a better online fps that can outstand this. I personally find TF2 to be more then an FPS, it involves teamwork and strategy, not run-and-gun.
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#48 Chiddaling
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TF2 on PC is an unbalanced game filled with bugs, and broken patches. Just today I finally got experience horrible framerate. I thought it was just a myth even though it's such a common problem with TF2. Maybe it's caused by new hardware, or new drivers, but nope. Nothing changed with my computer since the day I got TF2, and yet here I am with horrible framerate that was 60 fps just yesterday :(

CS 1.6 still rightfully holds the crown. TF2 is a piece of garbage.

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My computer is a piece of junk, but I can still run it on minimum. And I haven't come across a SINGLE bug you listed.
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#49 killab2oo5
Member since 2005 • 13621 Posts
Eh...I often find myself playing the game because I'm bored. I have put 100 hours+ into...so it probably should start getting boring now. It's fun, but not the funnest FPS ever...not even this gen, imo.
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#50 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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I agree, the only comp is from other valve games.