Team sonic should take note of shadow complex...

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#1 swamplord666
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If they want to reanimate sonic from the dead, they should really take a note of shadow complex.

Shadow complex has shown that 2d games CAN sell well, Create alot of hype, that the 2d format needn't be just on a 2d plane and what with the friction dampener (superspeed upgrade for those who don't know), you practically have a revitalsed sonic game!

What do you guys/girls think? Would you play a sonic game with these key components changed?

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#2 -TheSecondSign-
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Sonic Team should die, and not take advice from anyone ever.

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#3 AHUGECAT
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Sonic Team has lost touch with reality. They are a relic from the past. Time to bury Sonic as well. He was good for his time but it's been past that.

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#4 swamplord666
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haha we all want that... but we know that scavenging the remains of Sonic is what sega does best :P might as well point to the interesting bits :lol:

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#5 MJPK
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Sonic should just die.The last few games have just been pathetic.

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#6 gamer620
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[QUOTE="swamplord666"]

If they want to reanimate sonic from the dead, they should really take a note of shadow complex.

Shadow complex has shown that 2d games CAN sell well, Create alot of hype, that the 2d format needn't be just on a 2d plane and what with the friction dampener (superspeed upgrade for those who don't know), you practically have a revitalsed sonic game!

What do you guys/girls think? Would you play a sonic game with these key components changed?

If Shadow Complex was a retail game it would NOT have sold well. It sold well because it was a fantastic downloadable game. If Sonic Team released a new 2D sonic that was XBLA or PSN or WiiWare only, it would sell fantastically. Shadow Complex did not sell because of hype alone. It sold because it was cheap.
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#7 LTomlinson21
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I wish that was possible. The Sonic Adventure games for the Dreamcast were good.
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#8 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Sonic Team should simply make Sonic Rush 3. Everybody liked Sonic Rush and Sonic Rush Adventure. Make SR3 damnit.
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#9 Miyuki-Chan
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I'd like to see them make a new 2D Sonic for XBLA, Splosion Man is another example of how well a 2D game can sell.

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#10 nintendoboy16
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Sonic Team should simply make Sonic Rush 3. Everybody liked Sonic Rush and Sonic Rush Adventure. Make SR3 damnit.IronBass
Um, Sonic Team didn't do any of the Sonic Rush's or Sonic Unleashed Wii. It was Dimps, the developers behind Dragon Ball Z: Budokai.

Back on topic, I don't know. All I want is a good Sonic game.

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#11 sonicthemegaman
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Sonic Unleashed helped revive Sonic. I don't see a problem. Improving the Hedgehog Engine is the way to go.
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#12 falconclan
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People, you act as though they are making pure crap. Yes, sonic 2006 was bad, YES unleashed,was bad for ps3 and 360, and YES black knight was the worstbut Rush and adventure rush are both good on DS, and Unleashed was a pretty good game on wii, by no means perfect, but it was certainly my sonic fix, the best one in quite a while.

They can still make good games, it hasn't exactly been forever since sonic has had a good title.

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#13 dragonfly110
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Sonic Unleashed helped revive Sonic. I don't see a problem. Improving the Hedgehog Engine is the way to go.sonicthemegaman
actually no not at all. If it werent forthe stupid werehog it mightve, but unfortunatly they decided that the game needed a gimick, and the awesome formula found in SOnic Adventure and SOnic Adventure 2 just wasnt good enough... Sonic Teams problem isnt that they dont try, I think its that they try TOO hard.

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#14 tagyhag
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Team Sonic should just remake the original Sonic games.

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#15 lolatvideogames
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dev's cant make good 2d games these days plus sidescroller in 2009 doesnt feel right.
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#16 lolatvideogames
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how hard would it be to make sonic with socom controls?
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#17 falconclan
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Team Sonic should just remake the original Sonic games.

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tagyhag

That would be cool, but sonic 2 would be better... :P

Plus, its never going to happen... sadness.

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#18 lolatvideogames
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sonic with socom controls would be pwnage lol
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#19 falconclan
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sonic with socom controls would be pwnage lollolatvideogames
Do you bandodgers even try these days?

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#20 lolatvideogames
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they just never got the camera right. if they used socom's fixed/third person shooter camera set up for sonic you could manually attack people without the game auto targeting for you sonic would just play better. or make a sonic game like mirror edge lol
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#21 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

Team Sonic should just remake the original Sonic games.

falconclan

That would be cool, but sonic 2 would be better... :P

Plus, its never going to happen... sadness.

I also liked 2 more than the first one :P

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#22 falconclan
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[QUOTE="falconclan"]

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

Team Sonic should just remake the original Sonic games.

tagyhag

That would be cool, but sonic 2 would be better... :P

Plus, its never going to happen... sadness.

I also liked 2 more than the first one :P

3 was always my favorite back in the day because I could go and select a level if I had beaten the game. It was a new concept for me :)

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[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"]Sonic Unleashed helped revive Sonic. I don't see a problem. Improving the Hedgehog Engine is the way to go.dragonfly110

actually no not at all. If it werent forthe stupid werehog it mightve, but unfortunatly they decided that the game needed a gimick, and the awesome formula found in SOnic Adventure and SOnic Adventure 2 just wasnt good enough... Sonic Teams problem isnt that they dont try, I think its that they try TOO hard.

I find the Werehog to be a step up from mindlessly punching enemies as Knuckles, shooting them as Tails(cause Gamma owns Tails :D ), and though I love the homing attack, sonic 2006 made that way of attack seem even more trival than it already was. Werehog has platforming and beat-em up action. You cant say Ristar didnt make a cameo here ;). Reaaly, the camera and framerate are the real issue. Id like to see some elements from the Werehog levels maybe added to Knuckles. Daytime levels show a lot of promise as well. I think Unleashed did a great job. I was really surprised considering the crappy 06 game.
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#24 VendettaRed07
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sonic adventure 2's formula for the sonic levels was awesome... te only problem... NOT ENOUGH SONIC.....

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#25 dark-warmachine
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What Team Sonic need to do is quit or make Sonic Adventure 3. The only dev team that needs to take note of Shadow Complex is Capcom with their Megaman X series, which they need to bring back.

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#26 Yunask
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they need to take more than a few chapter out of what sm64, and LoZ:OoT did.

yeah?

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#27 caryslan2
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Here's how you revive the Sonic Franchise....

1. Hand the series over to Dimps and let them make all future games in the series.

2. Make Sonic the only playable character.

3. Quit with idiotic gimmicks like guns, werehogs, andtelekinesis. If it doesn't add anything to the core gameplay of Sonic, it doesn't need to be in the game.

4. Allow Dr. Eggman to be the main villain again and not some idiot who revives yet another legendary creature that ends up betraying him in the end.

5. Each zone needs to have three acts with a battle against with a battle with Eggman at the end of Act 3.

6. Offer bonus missions and a ranking system for each act in the game.

7. Offer no less than 14 zones(the same number Sonic 3 & Knuckles offered.)

8. Use the daytime engine from the PS2/Wii versions of Sonic Unleashed for each act.

Sonic Unleashed on the PS2/Wii would have gotten higher ratings had the game not included the Werehog stages. Dimps had the right idea where to take the franchise, they just need the freedom to make the next Sonic game without the interference of Sonic Team.

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#28 caryslan2
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

[QUOTE="falconclan"] That would be cool, but sonic 2 would be better... :P

Plus, its never going to happen... sadness.

falconclan

I also liked 2 more than the first one :P

3 was always my favorite back in the day because I could go and select a level if I had beaten the game. It was a new concept for me :)

Sonic CD and Sonic 3 & Knuckles are the best games of the series for me.:D

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#29 foxhound_fox
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The Sonic Team should just stop throwing darts at the "design idea board" and turning it into a game.

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#30 Senor_Kami
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I feel like Sonic Team has already mastered 3D sonic. The daytime levels of Sonic Unleshed are great. Their issue is that they won't let a good thing be and they feel the need to tack on something stupid to their games. I could play 6-8 zones with 2-3 acts each of a game like that. I wouldn't pay $60, but if they charged $30 i'd be really satisfied with it.

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#31 AtlanticRock
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What Team Sonic need to do is quit or make Sonic Adventure 3. The only dev team that needs to take note of Shadow Complex is Capcom with their Megaman X series, which they need to bring back.

dark-warmachine

Capcom did fine with Mega Man 9 and SSF2T HD Remix, I don't see how they would have any problems bringing back the Mega Man X series... Capcom = success, Sega/Sonic Team = meh

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#32 waynehead895
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Yeah when you get that suit and run like he does... reminds me of old sonic. Sonic 2 still my fav platformer of all time.
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#33 NinjaDuckling
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Sonic Team should die, and not take advice from anyone ever.

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I lol'd :lol: Your post combined with your avatar :P Anyway, I really don't care what Sonic team does anymore...
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#34 Epak_
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Sonic Team should simply make Sonic Rush 3. Everybody liked Sonic Rush and Sonic Rush Adventure. Make SR3 damnit.IronBass

Yup. The best modern Sonic games.

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#35 SecretPolice
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I wish that was possible. The Sonic Adventure games for the Dreamcast were good.LTomlinson21
Indeed, the last of the great Sonic games. :?

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#36 PAL360
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I agree. I would get day one a Sonic game with old megadrive sonics gameplay and 3d background graphics (like Shadow Complex)

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#37 DevilDude3232
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or make a sonic game like mirror edge lollolatvideogames

Oh lord that would be like a blurry, blue roller coaster ride...

Sonic should be laid to rest in peace. Sega has tarnished his great name and newer gamers should not be allowed to play sonic the first time with games like Sonic Unleashed or Sonic & The Black Knight.