Telltale games is collapsing.

There is zero evidence that Vampyr has anything at all in common with Deus Ex or Bloodlines. You are talking about what you hope the game will be with no evidence it will happen.

Dontnod are on the same level as Telltale in the adventure game genre, they both make really shit graphic novels with pig-ugly graphics that are an insult to the intelligence of anyone who has played actual adventure games before.

Not everyone is like you Texas, we don't all want games that are graphically horrendous that play themselves from start to finish. Vampyr might be a good game despite the awful trailers, we'll just have to wait and see. You are the only one convinced it has already surpassed past classics because it's made by Dontnod who no doubt pay you some form of commission for all the Dontnod PR drivel you keep posting on here.

Except that previews of the game have shown this.

Once again, Vampyr promises to deliver in areas where Bloodlines actually failed at. Even if the game does suffer from numerous issues, well, so did Bloodlines. Once again, did Bloodlines let you not kill anyone? Where killing a specific citizen can alter the district? Where morality can affect how you play? So in theory, Vampyr is already better than Bloodlines when it comes to gameplay, they just have to execute.

And need I remind you why adventure games collapsed in the 90's.

Jesus, you're just beyond any kind of help. How much are they paying you to post this crap? Oh, and why are you talking about adventure games? Dontnod have never made one. They have a really poor graphic novel with awful graphics and a terrible teen angst 'story' with zero gameplay so why even mention adventure games?

I never do this but I will make an exception for you. When Vampyr is released and all the reviews roll in both player and critics I am going to remind you of your claims of similarity to Bloodborne and Bloodlines.

'Vampyr promises to deliver'.

Nobody posts that on a gaming board, nobody. I'm calling it now, you work for Dontnod.

Fucking shameful.

@blueinheaven: So they should make moon logic ones that collapsed the genre? Face facts here, the genre has changed. Look at the Longest Journey and then look at its sequels. While TLJ was well received, many of its puzzles, especially in the first third, were criticized for involving wacky logic that really do not make sense. Its obtuse. This is why Dreamfall and Chapters are more story driven, because that simply put, its the direction of the genre. Telltale went too far and that's why they have taken a hit, but once again LIS blends some old school elements with new school design.

Might as well look at how Bloodlines did at release. It wasn't well received. Once again, modders saved the game and made it the game it was today. And I am not the only one comparing Vampyr's combat to Bloodborne, E3 previewers have. It looks very similar with a stamina bar and everything. Will it be better than Bloodborne in its combat? Probably not, but it doesn't have to be. Its a character driven RPG where combat can even be avoided.

Why any gamer would want a game spoon fed to them bit by bit every couple of months is beyond me.

Why are you relishing in the fact people are losing their jobs?

The jurassic park game is tempting , love the the first 2 movies since i saw em as a kid in theatres

Is it bad?

I stopped buying their games after the bullshit they pull with releasing a retail physical disc with just one episode on the disc and making you have to download the rest.

I'm glad what's happening to them and hope they shut down soon before the end of the year

Too bad, their games are fun, and almost always on sale. But, people acting like they are too good for fun, a common occurrence in the gaming community, nothing new.

@texasgoldrush: Life Is Strange? That game my 14 year old daughter likes, that I personally can't stand(the little I seen her play it from episode 1, it was free on psplus). Seems like a teen focused cringe fest. You mentioned two devs that both made life is strange. And you quote that as the saving grace of the genre. Where is the other ips?

I loved telltale walking dead, but they needed to make a new story, I think people, at least I got burn out with the Clementine storyline. They should of made a new location, a twist, hire some better writers. Who knows, I never bought the last 2 walking dead games. Tales of the borderlands and Game of thrones were great though.

Bottom line there is more than enough room for Telltale and other devs. They can keep making good varied games and your two devs can keep making tumblr melodramas.

Yep this. Both Tales of borderlands and Game of thrones were amazing. Walking dead, I love, but after season 2, I had enough with that storyline.

No, its not a teenage cringefest, in fact, its very dark for a teenage related drama. The first episode is the worst episode overall. And really, its smarter and better executed than most of its influences. And really, the themes are universal, not teen related. Really, the beginning of Episode 4 will have you changing your tune on it being a teenage cringefest.

DONTNOD is making another adventure game that's not Life is Strange, that's been confirmed by them.

And lastly, it is indeed Life is Strange that has been the Telltale killer. This cannot be denied. What The Witcher 3 did to Bioware and Bethesda is what LIS has done to Telltale.

Game of Thrones has gone down as a misfire.

I mean you could just feel the drop in quality from Walking Dead Season 1 to Season 2. I didn't care about the characters from Season 2 at all, not even the returning ones.

They'll go down having made one amazing game -Walking Dead Season 1- and that was their peak.

Cmon now, you must have been thrilled to see THAT guy was still alive at the ski lodge?

Although the rest were pretty crappy except for Luke. The Father/Daughter dynamic in Season 1 is what really tugged at my heart strings. The voice of Clementine is just so innocent, you don't want anything bad to happen to the girl. The ending, BAH GAWD the ending :(

I enjoy them still. I'll be honest though, I never buy them day one.

Recently finished TWAU and Tales from the Borderlands, both awesome.

And there lies the problem. Take away the ending and TWD S1 is only average. The game was basically a One Scene Wonder.

But it really wasn't that amazing because the flaws in the game has led to the downfall of the company. Telltale needed to improve their game design before they can make an "amazing" game.

I thought it was great, there were multiple memorable moments in every episode. I was actually interested in over half the characters. Can't say that about many games

Bummer people are losing their jobs....

Can't say I really care about Telltale or their games though.

But really, these moments are done in by choices not really mattering (and I mean not just the ending but throughout), and being the norm for that genre. I expected these scenes. And really, everyone just talks about the ending. I actually think Tales From The Borderlands is better, but it has the same Telltale problems.

I am saying that by everyone overlooking the flaws in 2012 and awarding the game GOTY, Telltale never learned from what they did wrong. This has now got them into trouble.

Gaming press and gamers overall like to refuse to point the finger at the popular game that could have caused a decline in a company or the genre's fortunes down the road.

Fair points. Maybe they should take a long time to make a game where your choices really matter and you don't end up at the same conclusion no matter what. That would be highly replayable.

And in 2012, Mass Effect 3 was bashed for "choices not mattering", but Walking Dead got a free pass. This is the problem with the gaming press and gamers in general. They ignore clear flaws when they "like" something and do not judge that something with a clear picture.

And TWD S1's flaws were more than just choices not mattering.

I'm playing through GoT thanks to PS+, but it feels kind of...lacking. Decent plot, though.