Ten Ways to Improve the Wii
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1. Make widescreen support mandatory for all Wii games.
2. Quality screen the PS2 ports. If your game looks the same on the Wii as it does on the PS2, we don't want it. Nintendo has this power, they should use it.
3. Online ranking, online *now* - start with the Mario Sports games, bundle the ability to play against "strangers" with a rank system. Matchmaking won't be based on rank, but "leveling up" for playing lots of games - it will be a nice reward for hardcore gamers.
4. Clean up the party - enough party games, the third parties have it more than covered - we don't need a dozen tech demos on the market when Wii Sports comes bundled already.
5. Where's Mario - no seriously, Galaxies, Paper, and Kart are mandatory games to get out ASAP.
6. Smash Bros ... worldwide, regional, and local leaderboards - ok Nintendo?
7. Special Editions in the US / UK - seriously, stop keeping the cool consoles in JPN this generation. There are *plenty* of Nintendo fanboys who would pay anything for a Shigeru Miyamoto signature "Triforce Wii".
8. Make Dolby Pro Logic II support mandatory for all games.
9. Colors
10. Metroid Prime Online multiplayer - CTF, Slayer, King of the Hill, Assassins, et cetera. Please, don't repeat MP2...
1. Online play.
2. Better games on the VC
Ten Ways to Improve the WiiI agree. And more FPS's. The Wii Mote enhances them quite a bit.
1. Make widescreen support mandatory for all Wii games.
2. Quality screen the PS2 ports. If your game looks the same on the Wii as it does on the PS2, we don't want it. Nintendo has this power, they should use it.
3. Online ranking, online *now* - start with the Mario Sports games, bundle the ability to play against "strangers" with a rank system. Matchmaking won't be based on rank, but "leveling up" for playing lots of games - it will be a nice reward for hardcore gamers.
4. Clean up the party - enough party games, the third parties have it more than covered - we don't need a dozen tech demos on the market when Wii Sports comes bundled already.
5. Where's Mario - no seriously, Galaxies, Paper, and Kart are mandatory games to get out ASAP.
6. Smash Bros ... worldwide, regional, and local leaderboards - ok Nintendo?
7. Special Editions in the US / UK - seriously, stop keeping the cool consoles in JPN this generation. There are *plenty* of Nintendo fanboys who would pay anything for a Shigeru Miyamoto signature "Triforce Wii".
8. Make Dolby Pro Logic II support mandatory for all games.
9. Colors
10. Metroid Prime Online multiplayer - CTF, Slayer, King of the Hill, Assassins, et cetera. Please, don't repeat MP2...subrosian
1:1 MOTION SENSING
that is all.
1 thing
1:1 MOTION SENSING
that is all.
Hammerofjustice
What does that even mean?
[QUOTE="S0DA_POPINSKI"]You don't agree with any of the other ones? well online play goes with a couple of them. Better games on the VC is important to me as I am old school. But yeah wasnt disagreeing with you just posting my own thoughts. I agree with most everything you said :P1. Online play.
2. Better games on the VC
subrosian
the subrosians were the greatest made up race ever. Zelda Oracle of Seasons is my 3rd favourite Zelda game and it is so awesome. i never thought u would have to walk link through a date and do a dance school. Capcom are a bunch of crazy devs.
very good. and i hope no one takes this as an insult to the wii i take it as constructive criticism. any product ever has room for improvment. luckily most of those are updateable by download or can just be released later. also on a side note.Yes, yes they are. The connectivity between the two GBC Zeldas was great too ... ah those were happy times! Yes, this is all constructive criticism - I wouldn't ask Nintendo to bring over special editions if I wasn't going to be the first person in line to buy one. Honestly I'd like to see some of the special release DS Lites come stateside, my DS' D-Pad has been through so much abuse thanks to Castlevania that pressing up on it is a bit rough now. The number of games not supporting widescreen, and Nintendo not bringing the hammer down on lazy devs is frustrating though. Twilight Princess did a beautiful job of making SDTV and HDTV owners happy, it's sad to see other games choose not to.
the subrosians were the greatest made up race ever. Zelda Oracle of Seasons is my 3rd favourite Zelda game and it is so awesome. i never thought u would have to walk link through a date and do a dance school. Capcom are a bunch of crazy devs.
BigBadButters
Oh and congrats on recognizing the Subrosians... I just like them because they're a kind of old-school archetype you don't see a lot of anymore, kind of akin to really old PC adventure games, or black mages in early JRPGs. I've met a lot of Nintendo fans who don't recognize them.
Ten Ways to Improve the Wii
1. Make widescreen support mandatory for all Wii games.
2. Quality screen the PS2 ports. If your game looks the same on the Wii as it does on the PS2, we don't want it. Nintendo has this power, they should use it.
3. Online ranking, online *now* - start with the Mario Sports games, bundle the ability to play against "strangers" with a rank system. Matchmaking won't be based on rank, but "leveling up" for playing lots of games - it will be a nice reward for hardcore gamers.
4. Clean up the party - enough party games, the third parties have it more than covered - we don't need a dozen tech demos on the market when Wii Sports comes bundled already.
5. Where's Mario - no seriously, Galaxies, Paper, and Kart are mandatory games to get out ASAP.
6. Smash Bros ... worldwide, regional, and local leaderboards - ok Nintendo?
7. Special Editions in the US / UK - seriously, stop keeping the cool consoles in JPN this generation. There are *plenty* of Nintendo fanboys who would pay anything for a Shigeru Miyamoto signature "Triforce Wii".
8. Make Dolby Pro Logic II support mandatory for all games.
9. Colors
10. Metroid Prime Online multiplayer - CTF, Slayer, King of the Hill, Assassins, et cetera. Please, don't repeat MP2...subrosian
1. not everyone has wide screen but there Opiton should be there
2. now i rather not let Nitnendo say something beacsue if they do 3rd partys will walk away.
3. online takes time to make xbla didnt become pouploar till about a year
4. No everyone enjoys party games rayman, wii sports, wii play , mario party 8 those are the only ones i can think off.
5. dont want your big guns after you just launch
6. sorry but i disagree
7. that dosent matter it depands on the taste in usa/uk Â
8. i agreee
9. colors wtf.... if you mean the white console you want black or red? ok i understand but let nintendo catch up to demand first before they make color systems.
Not bad though :)
very good. and i hope no one takes this as an insult to the wii i take it as constructive criticism. any product ever has room for improvment. luckily most of those are updateable by download or can just be released later. also on a side note.
the subrosians were the greatest made up race ever. Zelda Oracle of Seasons is my 3rd favourite Zelda game and it is so awesome. i never thought u would have to walk link through a date and do a dance school. Capcom are a bunch of crazy devs.
BigBadButters
hopefully not but i like to deabte anyways :) its fun ^.^
Ten Ways to Improve the WiiI would personally would have wanted games that aren't graphically pretty. If they were fun..The more the merrier.
1. Make widescreen support mandatory for all Wii games.
2. Quality screen the PS2 ports. If your game looks the same on the Wii as it does on the PS2, we don't want it. Nintendo has this power, they should use it.
3. Online ranking, online *now* - start with the Mario Sports games, bundle the ability to play against "strangers" with a rank system. Matchmaking won't be based on rank, but "leveling up" for playing lots of games - it will be a nice reward for hardcore gamers.
4. Clean up the party - enough party games, the third parties have it more than covered - we don't need a dozen tech demos on the market when Wii Sports comes bundled already.
5. Where's Mario - no seriously, Galaxies, Paper, and Kart are mandatory games to get out ASAP.
6. Smash Bros ... worldwide, regional, and local leaderboards - ok Nintendo?
7. Special Editions in the US / UK - seriously, stop keeping the cool consoles in JPN this generation. There are *plenty* of Nintendo fanboys who would pay anything for a Shigeru Miyamoto signature "Triforce Wii".
8. Make Dolby Pro Logic II support mandatory for all games.
9. Colors
10. Metroid Prime Online multiplayer - CTF, Slayer, King of the Hill, Assassins, et cetera. Please, don't repeat MP2...subrosian
[QUOTE="fedameda"]1. Give it an architecture that isn;t older then the PIIICpt_MehWell I'm glad they accomplished that step. I don't think you've read how efficient the Wii's tech really is. Maybe educate yourself a bit, and come back with an argument.
effecient? its little more then a modified G3. Who cares thats its more effective per clock then the 360 and PS3, both have enough hertz ratings to render the Wii a pathetically obsolete console. Both can feed their processors with far more bandwidth then the wii. Come back when you at least are using something based off of a G4.
[QUOTE="Cpt_Meh"][QUOTE="fedameda"]1. Give it an architecture that isn;t older then the PIIIfedamedaWell I'm glad they accomplished that step. I don't think you've read how efficient the Wii's tech really is. Maybe educate yourself a bit, and come back with an argument.
effecient? its little more then a modified G3. Who cares thats its more effective per clock then the 360 and PS3, both have enough hertz ratings to render the Wii a pathetically obsolete console. Both can feed their processors with far more bandwidth then the wii. Come back when you at least are using something based off of a G4.
Hahahahahahaha.... By efficient, I mean it's own processor doesn't bottleneck itself. Just a SLIGHT oversight on Sony's part. I realize the Wii isn't nearly as powerful as the PS3/360, but you act as if it's a step back from the Dreamcast or something.
[QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="Cpt_Meh"][QUOTE="fedameda"]1. Give it an architecture that isn;t older then the PIIICpt_MehWell I'm glad they accomplished that step. I don't think you've read how efficient the Wii's tech really is. Maybe educate yourself a bit, and come back with an argument.
effecient? its little more then a modified G3. Who cares thats its more effective per clock then the 360 and PS3, both have enough hertz ratings to render the Wii a pathetically obsolete console. Both can feed their processors with far more bandwidth then the wii. Come back when you at least are using something based off of a G4.
Hahahahahahaha.... By efficient, I mean it's own processor doesn't bottleneck itself. Just a SLIGHT oversight on Sony's part. I realize the Wii isn't nearly as powerful as the PS3/360, but you act as if it's a step back from the Dreamcast or something.
Its not, for all purposes it is as strong as a dream cast. All Nintendo did was a die shrink and increase clock rates. The bandwidth the the CPU probably hasn;t changed as dramitcally as the clock rate has. It probably will bottleneck itself, its a problem all G3-G5 chips have
[QUOTE="Cpt_Meh"][QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="Cpt_Meh"][QUOTE="fedameda"]1. Give it an architecture that isn;t older then the PIIIfedamedaWell I'm glad they accomplished that step. I don't think you've read how efficient the Wii's tech really is. Maybe educate yourself a bit, and come back with an argument.
effecient? its little more then a modified G3. Who cares thats its more effective per clock then the 360 and PS3, both have enough hertz ratings to render the Wii a pathetically obsolete console. Both can feed their processors with far more bandwidth then the wii. Come back when you at least are using something based off of a G4.
Hahahahahahaha.... By efficient, I mean it's own processor doesn't bottleneck itself. Just a SLIGHT oversight on Sony's part. I realize the Wii isn't nearly as powerful as the PS3/360, but you act as if it's a step back from the Dreamcast or something.
Its not, for all purposes it is as strong as a dream cast. All Nintendo did was a die shrink and increase clock rates. The bandwidth the the CPU probably hasn;t changed as dramitcally as the clock rate has. It probably will bottleneck itself, its a problem all G3-G5 chips have
god you know nothing do you
come back when you know what your talking about nvm..... you never come back
Well I'm glad they accomplished that step. I don't think you've read how efficient the Wii's tech really is. Maybe educate yourself a bit, and come back with an argument.[QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="Cpt_Meh"][QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="Cpt_Meh"][QUOTE="fedameda"]1. Give it an architecture that isn;t older then the PIIIwavebrid
effecient? its little more then a modified G3. Who cares thats its more effective per clock then the 360 and PS3, both have enough hertz ratings to render the Wii a pathetically obsolete console. Both can feed their processors with far more bandwidth then the wii. Come back when you at least are using something based off of a G4.
Hahahahahahaha.... By efficient, I mean it's own processor doesn't bottleneck itself. Just a SLIGHT oversight on Sony's part. I realize the Wii isn't nearly as powerful as the PS3/360, but you act as if it's a step back from the Dreamcast or something.
Its not, for all purposes it is as strong as a dream cast. All Nintendo did was a die shrink and increase clock rates. The bandwidth the the CPU probably hasn;t changed as dramitcally as the clock rate has. It probably will bottleneck itself, its a problem all G3-G5 chips have
god you know nothing do you
come back when you know what your talking about nvm..... you never come back
This coming from a person who probably doesn't know what a G3 even is.
Dont cut and paste an article about the G3 from wikipedia
[QUOTE="Cpt_Meh"][QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="Cpt_Meh"][QUOTE="fedameda"]1. Give it an architecture that isn;t older then the PIIIfedamedaWell I'm glad they accomplished that step. I don't think you've read how efficient the Wii's tech really is. Maybe educate yourself a bit, and come back with an argument.
effecient? its little more then a modified G3. Who cares thats its more effective per clock then the 360 and PS3, both have enough hertz ratings to render the Wii a pathetically obsolete console. Both can feed their processors with far more bandwidth then the wii. Come back when you at least are using something based off of a G4.
Hahahahahahaha.... By efficient, I mean it's own processor doesn't bottleneck itself. Just a SLIGHT oversight on Sony's part. I realize the Wii isn't nearly as powerful as the PS3/360, but you act as if it's a step back from the Dreamcast or something.
Its not, for all purposes it is as strong as a dream cast. All Nintendo did was a die shrink and increase clock rates. The bandwidth the the CPU probably hasn;t changed as dramitcally as the clock rate has. It probably will bottleneck itself, its a problem all G3-G5 chips have
This isn't a technical specifications thread, we're not talking about things Nintendo could have done, we're talking about what Nintendo can do, going forward, to make it the best console it can. Obviously the Wii could have been based on a more powerful architecture (at greater cost) - Nintendo chose not to do that, and so far that strategy seems to be paying off. Sony chose to use a more expensive (and powerful) architecture, but as a business they may spend years recouping the loss from doing so. At the same time, do you really feel that Nintendo would be wise to go head-to-head with Sony and Microsoft to have the most powerful online platform? What advantage is there in having the best hardware if it losses your company money? Nintendo has taken an alternative route this generation - one I've argued against in the past myself, but this thread is neither the time nor the place to criticize them for it.
[QUOTE="wavebrid"]Well I'm glad they accomplished that step. I don't think you've read how efficient the Wii's tech really is. Maybe educate yourself a bit, and come back with an argument.[QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="Cpt_Meh"][QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="Cpt_Meh"][QUOTE="fedameda"]1. Give it an architecture that isn;t older then the PIIIfedameda
effecient? its little more then a modified G3. Who cares thats its more effective per clock then the 360 and PS3, both have enough hertz ratings to render the Wii a pathetically obsolete console. Both can feed their processors with far more bandwidth then the wii. Come back when you at least are using something based off of a G4.
Hahahahahahaha.... By efficient, I mean it's own processor doesn't bottleneck itself. Just a SLIGHT oversight on Sony's part. I realize the Wii isn't nearly as powerful as the PS3/360, but you act as if it's a step back from the Dreamcast or something.
Its not, for all purposes it is as strong as a dream cast. All Nintendo did was a die shrink and increase clock rates. The bandwidth the the CPU probably hasn;t changed as dramitcally as the clock rate has. It probably will bottleneck itself, its a problem all G3-G5 chips have
god you know nothing do you
come back when you know what your talking about nvm..... you never come back
This coming from a person who probably doesn't know what a G3 even is.
Dont cut and paste an article about the G3 from wikipedia
wonder where you got that idea :o :|
Get rid, rid, rid of FCs
Thats like telling Microsoft how to run their company, or telling the colts how to play football. Room for improvement? Always.
Sure those would be great to have in the system, and I'm not saying I dont want them. Nintendo is working on what they think is best. And obviously they are doing well, I dont see any reason why to try to fix something that isnt broken.
[QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="Cpt_Meh"][QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="Cpt_Meh"][QUOTE="fedameda"]1. Give it an architecture that isn;t older then the PIIIsubrosianWell I'm glad they accomplished that step. I don't think you've read how efficient the Wii's tech really is. Maybe educate yourself a bit, and come back with an argument.
effecient? its little more then a modified G3. Who cares thats its more effective per clock then the 360 and PS3, both have enough hertz ratings to render the Wii a pathetically obsolete console. Both can feed their processors with far more bandwidth then the wii. Come back when you at least are using something based off of a G4.
Hahahahahahaha.... By efficient, I mean it's own processor doesn't bottleneck itself. Just a SLIGHT oversight on Sony's part. I realize the Wii isn't nearly as powerful as the PS3/360, but you act as if it's a step back from the Dreamcast or something.
Its not, for all purposes it is as strong as a dream cast. All Nintendo did was a die shrink and increase clock rates. The bandwidth the the CPU probably hasn;t changed as dramitcally as the clock rate has. It probably will bottleneck itself, its a problem all G3-G5 chips have
This isn't a technical specifications thread, we're not talking about things Nintendo could have done, we're talking about what Nintendo can do, going forward, to make it the best console it can. Obviously the Wii could have been based on a more powerful architecture (at greater cost) - Nintendo chose not to do that, and so far that strategy seems to be paying off. Sony chose to use a more expensive (and powerful) architecture, but as a business they may spend years recouping the loss from doing so. At the same time, do you really feel that Nintendo would be wise to go head-to-head with Sony and Microsoft to have the most powerful online platform? What advantage is there in having the best hardware if it losses your company money? Nintendo has taken an alternative route this generation - one I've argued against in the past myself, but this thread is neither the time nor the place to criticize them for it.
Nintendo should have at the LEAST advanced the architecture further then a die shrink, they effectivly did nothing. The could have just lengthened the pipelines for more core speed and made the architecture slightly wider. It doesn't take up much time or money to do. Its how intel made the pentium M core extremely cheap.
Ten Ways to Improve the Wii
1. Make widescreen support mandatory for all Wii games.
2. Quality screen the PS2 ports. If your game looks the same on the Wii as it does on the PS2, we don't want it. Nintendo has this power, they should use it.
3. Online ranking, online *now* - start with the Mario Sports games, bundle the ability to play against "strangers" with a rank system. Matchmaking won't be based on rank, but "leveling up" for playing lots of games - it will be a nice reward for hardcore gamers.
4. Clean up the party - enough party games, the third parties have it more than covered - we don't need a dozen tech demos on the market when Wii Sports comes bundled already.
5. Where's Mario - no seriously, Galaxies, Paper, and Kart are mandatory games to get out ASAP.
6. Smash Bros ... worldwide, regional, and local leaderboards - ok Nintendo?
7. Special Editions in the US / UK - seriously, stop keeping the cool consoles in JPN this generation. There are *plenty* of Nintendo fanboys who would pay anything for a Shigeru Miyamoto signature "Triforce Wii".
8. Make Dolby Pro Logic II support mandatory for all games.
9. Colors
10. Metroid Prime Online multiplayer - CTF, Slayer, King of the Hill, Assassins, et cetera. Please, don't repeat MP2...subrosian
I like all of those ideas. and I would seriously consider trading my Wii in for a special edition triforce one. *I'm such a freaking nerd.* I admit it I'm a Zelda fanboy. (that does not mean nintendo fanboy)
[QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="wavebrid"]Well I'm glad they accomplished that step. I don't think you've read how efficient the Wii's tech really is. Maybe educate yourself a bit, and come back with an argument.[QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="Cpt_Meh"][QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="Cpt_Meh"][QUOTE="fedameda"]1. Give it an architecture that isn;t older then the PIIIwavebrid
effecient? its little more then a modified G3. Who cares thats its more effective per clock then the 360 and PS3, both have enough hertz ratings to render the Wii a pathetically obsolete console. Both can feed their processors with far more bandwidth then the wii. Come back when you at least are using something based off of a G4.
Hahahahahahaha.... By efficient, I mean it's own processor doesn't bottleneck itself. Just a SLIGHT oversight on Sony's part. I realize the Wii isn't nearly as powerful as the PS3/360, but you act as if it's a step back from the Dreamcast or something.
Its not, for all purposes it is as strong as a dream cast. All Nintendo did was a die shrink and increase clock rates. The bandwidth the the CPU probably hasn;t changed as dramitcally as the clock rate has. It probably will bottleneck itself, its a problem all G3-G5 chips have
god you know nothing do you
come back when you know what your talking about nvm..... you never come back
This coming from a person who probably doesn't know what a G3 even is.
Dont cut and paste an article about the G3 from wikipedia
wonder where you got that idea :o :|
from idiots who point and call people stupid, then paste an article form wikipedia to prove their supposed knowledge, which almost always contains wrong data. If you want to cut and paste, do it form a better source at least
Buy a 360 or quit complaining. Nintendo doesnt need to hear about how to improve the Wii when its doing so successful. Sure there is room for improvement but then again Nintendo is it's own company and doesnt need to hear about it from you. Obviously they arent stupid, and they will put in what they see fit for their budget. They are not like Sony and Microsoft and they dont intend to be. If only you would have payed attention to the past 2 e3's then you would not have to post a thread suggesting improvements.
Thats like telling Microsoft how to run their company, or telling the colts how to play football. Room for improvement? Always.
Sure those would be great to have in the system, and I'm not saying I dont want them. Nintendo is working on what they think is best. And obviously they are doing well, I dont see any reason why to try to fix something that isnt broken.
hiho24
Well, Microsoft started giving gamers what they wanted, and look at their console now. Nintendo should do the same.
Buy a 360 or quit complaining. Nintendo doesnt need to hear about how to improve the Wii when its doing so successful. Sure there is room for improvement but then again Nintendo is it's own company and doesnt need to hear about it from you. Obviously they arent stupid, and they will put in what they see fit for their budget. They are not like Sony and Microsoft and they dont intend to be. If only you would have payed attention to the past 2 e3's then you would not have to post a thread suggesting improvements.
Thats like telling Microsoft how to run their company, or telling the colts how to play football. Room for improvement? Always.
Sure those would be great to have in the system, and I'm not saying I dont want them. Nintendo is working on what they think is best. And obviously they are doing well, I dont see any reason why to try to fix something that isnt broken.
hiho24
He wasnt flaming. those are all reasonable ideas
Buy a 360 or quit complaining. Nintendo doesnt need to hear about how to improve the Wii when its doing so successful. Sure there is room for improvement but then again Nintendo is it's own company and doesnt need to hear about it from you. Obviously they arent stupid, and they will put in what they see fit for their budget. They are not like Sony and Microsoft and they dont intend to be. If only you would have payed attention to the past 2 e3's then you would not have to post a thread suggesting improvements.Microsoft has taken a dominating lead this generation (one the Wii is catching up to) simply by taking some basic advice that fans (both inside and outside of the company) gave them. Did they launch with another black box tethered to a bulky controller, devoid of online at launch, one year after the competition? No. I have never believed Nintendo to be stupid. I have, however, found faults with their current system that would be nearly free for them to fix, that they have yet to address. To pretend that the Wii is perfect, or to pretend that it can't or shouldn't be is ignorant. Just because Nintendo has come close to selling 5 million units doesn't mean that they shouldn't, or won't address fans problems in the future.
Thats like telling Microsoft how to run their company, or telling the colts how to play football. Room for improvement? Always.
Sure those would be great to have in the system, and I'm not saying I dont want them. Nintendo is working on what they think is best. And obviously they are doing well, I dont see any reason why to try to fix something that isnt broken.
hiho24
Nintendo is a company that does address complaints - look at the DS Lite and tell me it wasn't a product of really giving fans what they wanted - and tell me it hasn't been financially rewarding :D
[QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="wavebrid"]Well I'm glad they accomplished that step. I don't think you've read how efficient the Wii's tech really is. Maybe educate yourself a bit, and come back with an argument.[QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="Cpt_Meh"][QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="Cpt_Meh"][QUOTE="fedameda"]1. Give it an architecture that isn;t older then the PIIIfedameda
effecient? its little more then a modified G3. Who cares thats its more effective per clock then the 360 and PS3, both have enough hertz ratings to render the Wii a pathetically obsolete console. Both can feed their processors with far more bandwidth then the wii. Come back when you at least are using something based off of a G4.
Hahahahahahaha.... By efficient, I mean it's own processor doesn't bottleneck itself. Just a SLIGHT oversight on Sony's part. I realize the Wii isn't nearly as powerful as the PS3/360, but you act as if it's a step back from the Dreamcast or something.
Its not, for all purposes it is as strong as a dream cast. All Nintendo did was a die shrink and increase clock rates. The bandwidth the the CPU probably hasn;t changed as dramitcally as the clock rate has. It probably will bottleneck itself, its a problem all G3-G5 chips have
god you know nothing do you
come back when you know what your talking about nvm..... you never come back
This coming from a person who probably doesn't know what a G3 even is.
Dont cut and paste an article about the G3 from wikipedia
wonder where you got that idea :o :|
from idiots who point and call people stupid, then paste an article form wikipedia to prove their supposed knowledge, which almost always contains wrong data. If you want to cut and paste, do it form a better source at least
i didnt call anyone stupid or idoits and i didnt paste anything.
and you really need to learn some history before you reply to me
Buy a 360 or quit complaining. Nintendo doesnt need to hear about how to improve the Wii when its doing so successful. Sure there is room for improvement but then again Nintendo is it's own company and doesnt need to hear about it from you. Obviously they arent stupid, and they will put in what they see fit for their budget. They are not like Sony and Microsoft and they dont intend to be. If only you would have payed attention to the past 2 e3's then you would not have to post a thread suggesting improvements.Massive room for improvement. At the least they could have widened the pipelines, but they didn't. It barely cost them any money to make the damn thing. They could sell it for $150 and still make massive profits. They fact that they shove a crappy 6 year old architecture with such a massive price is appalling. Well with your logic, the Nazi party wasn't broken, so who should we have gone in and fixed it?
Thats like telling Microsoft how to run their company, or telling the colts how to play football. Room for improvement? Always.
Sure those would be great to have in the system, and I'm not saying I dont want them. Nintendo is working on what they think is best. And obviously they are doing well, I dont see any reason why to try to fix something that isnt broken.
hiho24
[QUOTE="hiho24"]Buy a 360 or quit complaining. Nintendo doesnt need to hear about how to improve the Wii when its doing so successful. Sure there is room for improvement but then again Nintendo is it's own company and doesnt need to hear about it from you. Obviously they arent stupid, and they will put in what they see fit for their budget. They are not like Sony and Microsoft and they dont intend to be. If only you would have payed attention to the past 2 e3's then you would not have to post a thread suggesting improvements.Microsoft has taken a dominating lead this generation (one the Wii is catching up to) simply by taking some basic advice that fans (both inside and outside of the company) gave them. Did they launch with another black box tethered to a bulky controller, devoid of online at launch, one year after the competition? No. I have never believed Nintendo to be stupid. I have, however, found faults with their current system that would be nearly free for them to fix, that they have yet to address. To pretend that the Wii is perfect, or to pretend that it can't or shouldn't be is ignorant. Just because Nintendo has come close to selling 5 million units doesn't mean that they shouldn't, or won't address fans problems in the future.
Thats like telling Microsoft how to run their company, or telling the colts how to play football. Room for improvement? Always.
Sure those would be great to have in the system, and I'm not saying I dont want them. Nintendo is working on what they think is best. And obviously they are doing well, I dont see any reason why to try to fix something that isnt broken.
subrosian
1. factor one 360 was out how long?
2. all system has faults
3. no one is pretending wii is prefect
4. this system just got out you go to GIVE TIME
Support the classical controller on all games. Some games just don't work well with the Wiimote.
[QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="wavebrid"]Well I'm glad they accomplished that step. I don't think you've read how efficient the Wii's tech really is. Maybe educate yourself a bit, and come back with an argument.[QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="Cpt_Meh"][QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="Cpt_Meh"][QUOTE="fedameda"]1. Give it an architecture that isn;t older then the PIIIwavebrid
effecient? its little more then a modified G3. Who cares thats its more effective per clock then the 360 and PS3, both have enough hertz ratings to render the Wii a pathetically obsolete console. Both can feed their processors with far more bandwidth then the wii. Come back when you at least are using something based off of a G4.
Hahahahahahaha.... By efficient, I mean it's own processor doesn't bottleneck itself. Just a SLIGHT oversight on Sony's part. I realize the Wii isn't nearly as powerful as the PS3/360, but you act as if it's a step back from the Dreamcast or something.
Its not, for all purposes it is as strong as a dream cast. All Nintendo did was a die shrink and increase clock rates. The bandwidth the the CPU probably hasn;t changed as dramitcally as the clock rate has. It probably will bottleneck itself, its a problem all G3-G5 chips have
god you know nothing do you
come back when you know what your talking about nvm..... you never come back
This coming from a person who probably doesn't know what a G3 even is.
Dont cut and paste an article about the G3 from wikipedia
wonder where you got that idea :o :|
from idiots who point and call people stupid, then paste an article form wikipedia to prove their supposed knowledge, which almost always contains wrong data. If you want to cut and paste, do it form a better source at least
i didnt call anyone stupid or idoits and i didnt paste anything.
and you really need to learn some history before you reply to me
you implied idiot with your "learn something and come back" and apperntly you know something which may pertain to it and almost undoubtably are going to paste something from a source
[QUOTE="hiho24"]Buy a 360 or quit complaining. Nintendo doesnt need to hear about how to improve the Wii when its doing so successful. Sure there is room for improvement but then again Nintendo is it's own company and doesnt need to hear about it from you. Obviously they arent stupid, and they will put in what they see fit for their budget. They are not like Sony and Microsoft and they dont intend to be. If only you would have payed attention to the past 2 e3's then you would not have to post a thread suggesting improvements.
Thats like telling Microsoft how to run their company, or telling the colts how to play football. Room for improvement? Always.
Sure those would be great to have in the system, and I'm not saying I dont want them. Nintendo is working on what they think is best. And obviously they are doing well, I dont see any reason why to try to fix something that isnt broken.
fedameda
Massive room for improvement. At the least they could have widened the pipelines, but they didn't. It barely cost them any money to make the damn thing. They could sell it for $150 and still make massive profits. They fact that they shove a crappy 6 year old architecture with such a massive price is appalling. Well with your logic, the Nazi party wasn't broken, so who should we have gone in and fixed it?
the wii is more powerful than xbox that is plenty for this gen
you got no prove for the wsecond part.
so 360 could of sold it 250 your point?
ps3 could of ben 300?
[QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="wavebrid"]Well I'm glad they accomplished that step. I don't think you've read how efficient the Wii's tech really is. Maybe educate yourself a bit, and come back with an argument.[QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="Cpt_Meh"][QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="Cpt_Meh"][QUOTE="fedameda"]1. Give it an architecture that isn;t older then the PIIIfedameda
effecient? its little more then a modified G3. Who cares thats its more effective per clock then the 360 and PS3, both have enough hertz ratings to render the Wii a pathetically obsolete console. Both can feed their processors with far more bandwidth then the wii. Come back when you at least are using something based off of a G4.
Hahahahahahaha.... By efficient, I mean it's own processor doesn't bottleneck itself. Just a SLIGHT oversight on Sony's part. I realize the Wii isn't nearly as powerful as the PS3/360, but you act as if it's a step back from the Dreamcast or something.
Its not, for all purposes it is as strong as a dream cast. All Nintendo did was a die shrink and increase clock rates. The bandwidth the the CPU probably hasn;t changed as dramitcally as the clock rate has. It probably will bottleneck itself, its a problem all G3-G5 chips have
god you know nothing do you
come back when you know what your talking about nvm..... you never come back
This coming from a person who probably doesn't know what a G3 even is.
Dont cut and paste an article about the G3 from wikipedia
wonder where you got that idea :o :|
from idiots who point and call people stupid, then paste an article form wikipedia to prove their supposed knowledge, which almost always contains wrong data. If you want to cut and paste, do it form a better source at least
i didnt call anyone stupid or idoits and i didnt paste anything.
and you really need to learn some history before you reply to me
you implied idiot with your "learn something and come back" and apperntly you know something which may pertain to it and almost undoubtably are going to paste something from a source
:roll: oh yea i did :| no im not wasting my time with someone on a fourm over something so lame :)
[QUOTE="hiho24"]Buy a 360 or quit complaining. Nintendo doesnt need to hear about how to improve the Wii when its doing so successful. Sure there is room for improvement but then again Nintendo is it's own company and doesnt need to hear about it from you. Obviously they arent stupid, and they will put in what they see fit for their budget. They are not like Sony and Microsoft and they dont intend to be. If only you would have payed attention to the past 2 e3's then you would not have to post a thread suggesting improvements.Massive room for improvement. At the least they could have widened the pipelines, but they didn't. It barely cost them any money to make the damn thing. They could sell it for $150 and still make massive profits. They fact that they shove a crappy 6 year old architecture with such a massive price is appalling. Well with your logic, the Nazi party wasn't broken, so who should we have gone in and fixed it?
Thats like telling Microsoft how to run their company, or telling the colts how to play football. Room for improvement? Always.
Sure those would be great to have in the system, and I'm not saying I dont want them. Nintendo is working on what they think is best. And obviously they are doing well, I dont see any reason why to try to fix something that isnt broken.
fedameda
There's a big difference between your complaints and mine. My complaints *aren't* with the underlying hardware. I understand what Nintendo was trying to do, appreciate it, and have some ideas about how they can go forward with the console they already have. It's kind of like if someone at the DS launch had said "y'know, it'd be sweet if I could play Animal Crossing over wifi with my friends" - it's something achievable (in fact it has been achieved) - that builds on the vision the company already has. What you have a problem with is the system in general - your idea to improve on the Wii is essentially to strap a motion-sensing controller to the 360 or PS3.
[QUOTE="hiho24"]Buy a 360 or quit complaining. Nintendo doesnt need to hear about how to improve the Wii when its doing so successful. Sure there is room for improvement but then again Nintendo is it's own company and doesnt need to hear about it from you. Obviously they arent stupid, and they will put in what they see fit for their budget. They are not like Sony and Microsoft and they dont intend to be. If only you would have payed attention to the past 2 e3's then you would not have to post a thread suggesting improvements.Microsoft has taken a dominating lead this generation (one the Wii is catching up to) simply by taking some basic advice that fans (both inside and outside of the company) gave them. Did they launch with another black box tethered to a bulky controller, devoid of online at launch, one year after the competition? No. I have never believed Nintendo to be stupid. I have, however, found faults with their current system that would be nearly free for them to fix, that they have yet to address. To pretend that the Wii is perfect, or to pretend that it can't or shouldn't be is ignorant. Just because Nintendo has come close to selling 5 million units doesn't mean that they shouldn't, or won't address fans problems in the future.
Thats like telling Microsoft how to run their company, or telling the colts how to play football. Room for improvement? Always.
Sure those would be great to have in the system, and I'm not saying I dont want them. Nintendo is working on what they think is best. And obviously they are doing well, I dont see any reason why to try to fix something that isnt broken.
subrosian
Nintendo is a company that does address complaints - look at the DS Lite and tell me it wasn't a product of really giving fans what they wanted - and tell me it hasn't been financially rewarding :D
You're absolutely right. I like the Wii but there are many things Nintendo can do now to make it better. In the end, I buy systems for its games, and I can't game on without Nintendo games (I'm very interested in the next FF:CC on Wii though). However, I do like the fact that so many games for the 360 take advantage of XBL, and I'm considering getting a 360 when it drops in price. I'd love to be able to play all of Halo 3 and Army of Two in addition to Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, and Super Smash Bros. Brawl. The only thing I'll miss as a Wii60 owner is FFXIII, but no game is worth $600. I don't think I've seen a disappointed Wii60 owner on SW.
You know what else would be cool? The ability to customize the way your Wii home menu looks, like you can do with the 360 dashboard.
[QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="hiho24"]Buy a 360 or quit complaining. Nintendo doesnt need to hear about how to improve the Wii when its doing so successful. Sure there is room for improvement but then again Nintendo is it's own company and doesnt need to hear about it from you. Obviously they arent stupid, and they will put in what they see fit for their budget. They are not like Sony and Microsoft and they dont intend to be. If only you would have payed attention to the past 2 e3's then you would not have to post a thread suggesting improvements.
Thats like telling Microsoft how to run their company, or telling the colts how to play football. Room for improvement? Always.
Sure those would be great to have in the system, and I'm not saying I dont want them. Nintendo is working on what they think is best. And obviously they are doing well, I dont see any reason why to try to fix something that isnt broken.
wavebrid
Massive room for improvement. At the least they could have widened the pipelines, but they didn't. It barely cost them any money to make the damn thing. They could sell it for $150 and still make massive profits. They fact that they shove a crappy 6 year old architecture with such a massive price is appalling. Well with your logic, the Nazi party wasn't broken, so who should we have gone in and fixed it?
the wii is more powerful than xbox that is plenty for this gen
you got no prove for the wsecond part.
so 360 could of sold it 250 your point?
ps3 could of ben 300?
The other two consoles would not make profit if they sold it for a lower price, Nintendo could have. The majority of cost in console developement is R&D, which mostly goes to a new architecture, but wait, the wii uses the same architecture with a die shrink, giving effectivly no R&D cost. And the Wiimote did not take millions of dollars in R&D
Ten Ways to Improve the Wii
1. Make widescreen support mandatory for all Wii games.
   Widescreen support? What games don't run in widescreen?Â
2. Quality screen the PS2 ports. If your game looks the same on the Wii as it does on the PS2, we don't want it. Nintendo has this power, they should use it.
   What are you talking about? Zelda looks better than a PS2 game. Heck, GC games look better than PS2 games.Â
3. Online ranking, online *now* - start with the Mario Sports games, bundle the ability to play against "strangers" with a rank system. Matchmaking won't be based on rank, but "leveling up" for playing lots of games - it will be a nice reward for hardcore gamers.
   You are lucky Nintendo is even doing online play, so don't complain yet.Â
4. Clean up the party - enough party games, the third parties have it more than covered - we don't need a dozen tech demos on the market when Wii Sports comes bundled already.
   Games are games. No one tells the 360, no more shooters, or Sony no more FF games.Â
5. Where's Mario - no seriously, Galaxies, Paper, and Kart are mandatory games to get out ASAP.
   He is coming. Jez, a launch without Mario, teh horror. Give it a bit. They had Zelda and the first system to actually come with a game free at launch in years.Â
6. Smash Bros ... worldwide, regional, and local leaderboards - ok Nintendo?
   Why are leaderboards a big deal? Cheaters, modders, and glitchers are the only ones up there.Â
7. Special Editions in the US / UK - seriously, stop keeping the cool consoles in JPN this generation. There are *plenty* of Nintendo fanboys who would pay anything for a Shigeru Miyamoto signature "Triforce Wii".
   I'll agree on this one.Â
8. Make Dolby Pro Logic II support mandatory for all games.
   Pro Logic is terrible anyway. If anything, Dolby Digital, but any decent reciever can make 2 channel stereo into Dolby Pro Logic anyway. Why waste Nintendo's time?Â
9. Colors
   I'm not looking to rebuy a console cuz its blue. Lets focus on getting enough white ones on store shelves first.
10. Metroid Prime Online multiplayer - CTF, Slayer, King of the Hill, Assassins, et cetera. Please, don't repeat MP2...
   The Wii Friend Code system seems more in need of fixing than this, but its your list... subrosian
[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="hiho24"]Buy a 360 or quit complaining. Nintendo doesnt need to hear about how to improve the Wii when its doing so successful. Sure there is room for improvement but then again Nintendo is it's own company and doesnt need to hear about it from you. Obviously they arent stupid, and they will put in what they see fit for their budget. They are not like Sony and Microsoft and they dont intend to be. If only you would have payed attention to the past 2 e3's then you would not have to post a thread suggesting improvements.Microsoft has taken a dominating lead this generation (one the Wii is catching up to) simply by taking some basic advice that fans (both inside and outside of the company) gave them. Did they launch with another black box tethered to a bulky controller, devoid of online at launch, one year after the competition? No. I have never believed Nintendo to be stupid. I have, however, found faults with their current system that would be nearly free for them to fix, that they have yet to address. To pretend that the Wii is perfect, or to pretend that it can't or shouldn't be is ignorant. Just because Nintendo has come close to selling 5 million units doesn't mean that they shouldn't, or won't address fans problems in the future.
Thats like telling Microsoft how to run their company, or telling the colts how to play football. Room for improvement? Always.
Sure those would be great to have in the system, and I'm not saying I dont want them. Nintendo is working on what they think is best. And obviously they are doing well, I dont see any reason why to try to fix something that isnt broken.
Tristam22
Nintendo is a company that does address complaints - look at the DS Lite and tell me it wasn't a product of really giving fans what they wanted - and tell me it hasn't been financially rewarding :D
You're absolutely right. I like the Wii but there are many things Nintendo can do now to make it better. In the end, I buy systems for its games, and I can't game on without Nintendo games (I'm very interested in the next FF:CC on Wii though). However, I do like the fact that so many games for the 360 take advantage of XBL, and I'm considering getting a 360 when it drops in price. I'd love to be able to play all of Halo 3 and Army of Two in addition to Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, and Super Smash Bros. Brawl. The only thing I'll miss as a Wii60 owner is FFXIII, but no game is worth $600. I don't think I've seen a disappointed Wii60 owner on SW. I was disappointed with the DS launch for the same reasons I'm a bit miffed by the Wii launch - there just aren't enough good games out there yet, and we're left getting the shovel (badly done ports) by the third parties. I haven't bought a Wii yet for this reason, but with Sonic and the Secret Rings coming on February 20th, I'm done holding out. I agree with you on the Wii60 though - I think there's a beautiful mix between these two platforms. Wii delivers a lot of the creative, classic harm, while the 360 gives you access to the graphical goodness you need for "your head explode" gaming. I wouldn't want Halo on a Wii, and I wouldn't want Zelda on a 360. I'll own both this generation (along with whatever Gameboy comes next) simply because there are games that each one does better. Honestly I'd like to get the 360 first (I'm absolutely dying to pick one up for Gears - I already own the game but not the system for it) but at $400, and with redesign rumors, I'm hesitant. My biggest problem is that retailers were giving $100 store-credit or rebates more Christmas, but aren't now. I feel strange getting a price increase for waiting - whereas at least if the Wii were to price drop I would have gotten it relatively early, I wouldn't feel bad.
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