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#1 zipozal
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If there was such a thing, an attachment that connected to your PS3/360 that made all the games run at 1080P with 4xAA and High Rez Textures would you buy it?

Some Console Games ( GTA4/COD4/Halo 3) Don't Even Run at 720P they run at 600P

Note:

600P =0.61 Megapixels

720P = 0.92 Megapixels

1080P = 2.07 Megapixels

So for a game like Call Of Duty 4 it would up the resolution more than 3x

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#2 Moto1971
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Hahaha, reminds me of when the Expansion 'Pak' came out for the N64.
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#3 zipozal
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Hahaha, reminds me of when the Expansion 'Pak' came out for the N64.Moto1971

Or the 32x / SegaCD

Those didn't make the existing library visually better though..

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#4 Couth_
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Nah. That would make them PC's. And I already have a gaming rig
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#6 Twig978
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only noobs and idiots think 1080p is pointless.

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Most games are natively 720p, they are just upscaled or streched to 1080p. Some games, not all.
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#7 zipozal
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[QUOTE="Panther501"]

only noobs and idiots think 1080p is pointless.

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Most games are natively 720p, they are just upscaled or streched to 1080p. Some games, not all.

He obviously knows this, all he is saying is that there is a significant difference between 1080P and 720P so to say it is pointless would be idiotic.

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#8 aaronmullan
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There is only one thing I care about less than the resolution I play games in.

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#9 WilliamRLBaker
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1080p was before its time, the same as 720p.
we'll be in a much better position in the next 5 or so years in all realms like internet speed, and consoles...etc

Same with TV's.

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#10 Luigi_Vincetana
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Maybe, Though I could just hook up my PC up to the TV and play the same games at those settings anyway.
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#11 anshul89
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I'll take 60 fps.

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#12 zipozal
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I'll take 60 fps.

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I'll take 60 fps / 16x AA / 1600P myself...but thats pc gaming

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#13 NielsNL
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Upgrade? I don't get it. There already are games that do 1080p. There already are games that do 4xAA. And high res textures is not defined well enough. What is high res?

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#14 AnnoyedDragon
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Even if such a magical device existed developers would simply use the extra performance to push their games harder, bringing the res/aa back down.

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#15 NinjaMunkey01
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The whoe point of consoles is that one you have one theres no need to upgrade for ages till next gen.

What if you dont want to upgrade? That means you dont get to play the best games.

Its a horrible idea. If you want to do things like that get into PC gaming.

EDIT: and 1080p isnt pointless. Hi def movies and some games show that quite well...

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#16 zipozal
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Upgrade? I don't get it. There already are games that do 1080p. There already are games that do 4xAA. And high res textures is not defined well enough. What is high res?

NielsNL

There are hundreds of games for the PS3/360 less than a handful of them do 1080P, high res textures would be PC quality, pretty much all console games have fairly low res texture in environments in comparison which is why when you look at multiplatform games the console versions textures are typically the PC's at medium.

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#17 NielsNL
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[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

Upgrade? I don't get it. There already are games that do 1080p. There already are games that do 4xAA. And high res textures is not defined well enough. What is high res?

zipozal

There are hundreds of games for the PS3/360 less than a handful of them do 1080P, high res textures would be PC quality, pretty much all console games have fairly low res texture in environments in comparison which is why when you look at multiplatform games the console versions textures are typically the PC's at medium.

Ah now I see! This is a hermit elitism thread in disguise. Moving along.

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#18 DragonfireXZ95
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I already have that. It's called a computer. :P
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#19 zipozal
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[QUOTE="zipozal"]

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

Upgrade? I don't get it. There already are games that do 1080p. There already are games that do 4xAA. And high res textures is not defined well enough. What is high res?

NielsNL

There are hundreds of games for the PS3/360 less than a handful of them do 1080P, high res textures would be PC quality, pretty much all console games have fairly low res texture in environments in comparison which is why when you look at multiplatform games the console versions textures are typically the PC's at medium.

Ah now I see! This is a hermit elitism thread in disguise. Moving along.

And I've proved my point, most voters would, as expected most console gamers would be PC Gamers they are either just

A to lazy

B frightend by supposed high costs (even though you save tons of money on the game cost assuming you buy a few games a year)

C Turned off by any of the many numerous false problems of PC Gaming

D Afraid of Change, it's always easier to stick with what you know.

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#20 lowe0
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I'd rather they just came out with a new platform. Bolting stuff onto a console usually doesn't work out so well (see 32X).

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#22 lowe0
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[QUOTE="zipozal"]

And I've proved my point, most voters would, as expected most console gamers would be PC Gamers they are either just

A to lazy

And? It's entertainment; it doesn't magically get better because you put more effort in. If I don't really value the advantages of PC gaming over what I'm already getting on a console, then why bother putting in the extra effort?
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#23 MortalDecay
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Add-ons like that never do very well.
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#24 brandontwb
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I'll take 60 fps.

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Same. I would lower everything else for 60FPS because it makes the gameplay and the graphics twice as good in my opinion.
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#25 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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meh, I'd rather pay less money, myself
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#26 badtaker
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[QUOTE="zipozal"]

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

Upgrade? I don't get it. There already are games that do 1080p. There already are games that do 4xAA. And high res textures is not defined well enough. What is high res?

NielsNL

There are hundreds of games for the PS3/360 less than a handful of them do 1080P, high res textures would be PC quality, pretty much all console games have fairly low res texture in environments in comparison which is why when you look at multiplatform games the console versions textures are typically the PC's at medium.

Ah now I see! This is a hermit elitism thread in disguise. Moving along.

cows now care for Res after sales
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#27 ronvalencia
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If there was such a thing, an attachment that connected to your PS3/360 that made all the games run at 1080P with 4xAA and High Rez Textures would you buy it?

Some Console Games ( GTA4/COD4/Halo 3) Don't Even Run at 720P they run at 600P

Note:

600P =0.61 Megapixels

720P = 0.92 Megapixels

1080P = 2.07 Megapixels

So for a game like Call Of Duty 4 it would up the resolution more than 3x

zipozal

For effective 1080p game play, the new attachment required is a new GPU i.e.

1. a GPU with more than 8 ROPs or equivalent.

2. a GPU with 256bit wide bus or equivalent (e.g. GDDR5 128bit instead of console's current GDDR3 128bit).

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#28 Syferonik
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Yes i would cuz i f****** hate jaggies on consoles
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#29 Filthybastrd
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Addon? Maybe.

1080p addon? That'd be a really bad move.

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#30 tirralirra
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Is this a real thing or just something you guys want. Cos you can't just upgrade the resolution of games. I mean, the PS3 has an upscaler, but no game on console at the moment is 1080p native. Besides there are rumours PS4 might support HD2. But I'm thinking 3D gaming might come into the picture soon.
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#31 tirralirra
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Yes i would cuz i f****** hate jaggies on consolesSyferonik
1080p won't get rid of jaggies...>.>
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#32 Syferonik
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[QUOTE="Syferonik"]Yes i would cuz i f****** hate jaggies on consolestirralirra
1080p won't get rid of jaggies...>.>

Hellllllllllllllll no. I have an 1080p and with it you notice jaggies even better:lol: all you need is higher AA not the x2 AA bs most of games uses.

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#33 tok1879
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[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

[QUOTE="zipozal"]

There are hundreds of games for the PS3/360 less than a handful of them do 1080P, high res textures would be PC quality, pretty much all console games have fairly low res texture in environments in comparison which is why when you look at multiplatform games the console versions textures are typically the PC's at medium.

zipozal

Ah now I see! This is a hermit elitism thread in disguise. Moving along.

And I've proved my point, most voters would, as expected most console gamers would be PC Gamers they are either just

A to lazy

B frightend by supposed high costs (even though you save tons of money on the game cost assuming you buy a few games a year)

C Turned off by any of the many numerous false problems of PC Gaming

D Afraid of Change, it's always easier to stick with what you know.

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...ooor it could be that they like having one little box, attached to their tv, that could be switched on with just a button press of a controller, that plays ALL the games of that console without any head ache inducing tweak needed. Oh i see you tried to cover that, "too lazy?" :lol: sure dude.
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#34 ManicAce
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[QUOTE="tirralirra"][QUOTE="Syferonik"]Yes i would cuz i f****** hate jaggies on consolesSyferonik

1080p won't get rid of jaggies...>.>

Hellllllllllllllll no. I have an 1080p and with it you notice jaggies even better:lol: all you need is higher AA not the x2 AA bs most of games uses.

1080p compared to 720p reduces the amount of jaggies significantly if the level of AA is the same. But that requires the game to be run at that resolution natively, upscaling won't have the same effect. As for the question, I think it would depend on the price for most people, and whether you have a TV/Monitor capable of taking advantage of it.
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#35 imprezawrx500
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it already exists, it's called the pc.
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#36 Wasdie  Moderator
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Well that would be physically impossible, so I won't even consider it.

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#37 decoppel
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If it was possible, my yes is still dependant. I would like to see how good of a job it does, on games that actually look stellar for 720p.
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#39 lolatvideogames
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that would own if they released memory expansion for ps3/360 so for example f.e.a.r 2# on xbox360 textures would look same as they do on my pc. i played fear2 demo on my 360 and pc, the 360's version has lower resolution textures easily noticeable on the brickwall in the beggining of the demo.
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#40 Marka1700
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No. I dont even care. I still run most of my PC games in 1280x1024 or 1024x768.
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#41 zipozal
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that would own if they released memory expansion for ps3/360 so for example f.e.a.r 2# on xbox360 textures would look same as they do on my pc. i played fear2 demo on my 360 and pc, the 360's version has lower resolution textures easily noticeable on the brickwall in the beggining of the demo.lolatvideogames

It's that way for really almost every multiplat

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#43 linkin_guy109
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only noobs and idiots think 1080p is pointless.

Panther501
its not pointless but paying 200 extra bucks on top of whatever we have already payed would be a load of crap, with lots of games running at hd res's or close to hd resolutions i can bear with a few less pixels and 200 dollars extra in my wallet
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#44 zipozal
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[QUOTE="Panther501"]

only noobs and idiots think 1080p is pointless.

linkin_guy109

its not pointless but paying 200 extra bucks on top of whatever we have already payed would be a load of crap, with lots of games running at hd res's or close to hd resolutions i can bear with a few less pixels and 200 dollars extra in my wallet

Few less? Double is quite a difference and in some cases like COD it would be triple which is an astronomical difference.

On top of that :lol: how much more did you pay for that 1080P TV :lol:

If you found a TV one 1080P one 720P with the rez being the only difference I think it's safe to say it would be more than 200 more for the 1080P :lol:

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#45 Tessellation
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GTAIV is only sub HD on ps3,Xbox 360 is 720p 2xAA.
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#46 zipozal
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GTAIV is only sub HD on ps3,Xbox 360 is 720p 2xAA.Tessellation

Wrong! Call Of Duty 4, an abysmal 600P

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#47 killerfist
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Meh, I'm careless. The games look fine as they are. (and yes, I have a 1080p TV)
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#48 Brownesque
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Try PC gaming.
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#49 Brownesque
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"]GTAIV is only sub HD on ps3,Xbox 360 is 720p 2xAA.zipozal

Wrong! Call Of Duty 4, an abysmal 600P

*takes deep breath* And COD3 on XB360, COD4 on both consoles, MW2 on both consoles, WAW on both consoles, MGS4, NG2 on 360, Ghostbusters on PS3..... you know what? Screw it.

Both of you read up on just how many games render below 720p on consoles here

There are literally dozens.

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#50 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"]GTAIV is only sub HD on ps3,Xbox 360 is 720p 2xAA.zipozal

Wrong! Call Of Duty 4, an abysmal 600P

You're the only one wrong regarding GTAIV resolutions on both consoles Grand Theft Auto IV on PS3 = 1152x640 (no AA) Grand Theft Auto IV on Xbox 360 = 1280x720 (2xAA) http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?s=29838095a0af31a9369f2a5114d1419e&t=46241 and i never said anything about COD4.