The 360 continues to evolve graphically while the ps3 has hit a ceiling

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#51 KarateeeChop
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yeah it's a shame that the ps3 hit is peak with u2, and u3 looks even worse than u2 in some areas. :(

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#52 FoolwithaLancer
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yeah it's a shame that the ps3 hit is peak with u2, and u3 looks even worse than u2 in some areas. :(

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You'd have to own a PS3 and play the Beta to know that ;)

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#54 deactivated-59d151f079814
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............. Sorry.. But who cares? True or false, games look great right now.. I want gameplay DEVELOPMENT not graphical development.. In the end of the day I have spent more time on games like Terraria, which is a simplistic looking 2d game.. Then I have many "cutting edge graphics".. In the end who cares? Games look great, why do people want to press it yet want the same bland gameplay mechanics being released.. I honestly hope the consoles go on for another 4 years before they get replaced next gen.. Simply so we can see the devs to stop hyping graphics but to start actually having to put new substance in their games.. Heaven forbid that they release a game with replayibility or game length exceeding over 100 hours that doesn't include multiplayer options.
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#55 Heil68
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Disneyland Adventures and Sesame Street are evolving? I would rather see it regress.
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#56 FoolwithaLancer
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Disneyland Adventures and Sesame Street are evolving? I would rather see it regress. Heil68

No Gears 3 and Forza 4 are though ;)

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Disneyland Adventures and Sesame Street are evolving? I would rather see it regress. Heil68

You surelly love to talk about kinect! You do know that there are like 600 non kinect games on 360, right??

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#58 ShadowMoses900
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yeah it's a shame that the ps3 hit is peak with u2, and u3 looks even worse than u2 in some areas. :(

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If you had a PS3 and Uncharted you would probably enjoy it and love it. But since you don't I can understand your logic. My 360 doesn't work anymore but I still think it has good games, I don't know why but for some reason I enjoy a good game despite what system it's on. But hey that's just me and I'm crazy for thinking there are good games on every platform that I can enjoy, even if my 360 doesn't work anymore.:wink:

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#59 eboyishere
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actually they both hit the celing, lol at you thinking 360 has more energy left
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#60 skrat_01
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BEHOLD. SYSTEM WARS VERY OWN GAME DEVELOPERS. Right? Right. Please
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When it comes to 360 and PS3 I don't understand why anyone would think to themselves "there's no way teh graphix will get any better." I can only understand that thinking with Wii, because it is stuck in last generation graphics.

But other than Wii, people seem to forget that during a console lifecycle, the graphical quality continually gets better. Just when it is thought that there is a "peak" level, something else comes out that has even better graphics. This has always been the pattern, way back to Atari 2600 to now.

I'm sure lot people didn't think games like Rage and Skyrim would ever look this good on a console.

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#62 deactivated-5ec2b2cb7a41e
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if you care about grahics get a gaming pc.
also when ps3 was releasin great looking games xbox had still gears 2....

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#63 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="hiryu3"]stuff like this isn't even entertaining anymore.ShadowMoses900

Indeed, it's always the same thing here on SW, I know people say "this is SW NOT fanboy wars" but guess what? It really is...

Some 360/ps3/wii/PC fanboy makes fanboy bias thread that says "blah blah blah (insert console name) sucks, blah blahblah look at me yell some more". The same threads always keep popping up and the same fanboys always show up to either support or attack the thread. There is NO logic in this place. I hope these people arn't adults becasue that would be really REALLY sad lol.

"system wars...not fanboy wars" means this isn't a forum to argue about fanboys.

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#64 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="hiryu3"]stuff like this isn't even entertaining anymore.CaseyWegner

Indeed, it's always the same thing here on SW, I know people say "this is SW NOT fanboy wars" but guess what? It really is...

Some 360/ps3/wii/PC fanboy makes fanboy bias thread that says "blah blah blah (insert console name) sucks, blah blahblah look at me yell some more". The same threads always keep popping up and the same fanboys always show up to either support or attack the thread. There is NO logic in this place. I hope these people arn't adults becasue that would be really REALLY sad lol.

"system wars...not fanboy wars" means this isn't a forum to argue about fanboys.

oh ok got ya.

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Is this a joke? Whereas I'm not one to hate on the 360 (great console), it peaked graphically a couple of years ago. The PS3, on the other hand, only seems to be getting better. As far as graphics and power are concerned, I have a strong feeling that Xbox vs PS3 will turn out a lot like Genesis vs SNES. Guess which is which.charizard1605
would not sya the 360 peaked years ago when we have games that look much better than games from years ago. does not make sense....
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Is this a joke? Whereas I'm not one to hate on the 360 (great console), it peaked graphically a couple of years ago. The PS3, on the other hand, only seems to be getting better. As far as graphics and power are concerned, I have a strong feeling that Xbox vs PS3 will turn out a lot like Genesis vs SNES. Guess which is which.charizard1605

Just curious but which game are you speaking of that showed that the 360 peaked "a couple of years ago"?

...and whatever game you're talking about are you saying that there is no current game or upcoming games that look better than the one you are speaking of that came out "a couple of years ago"?

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#67 LP4EVA2005
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HAHA NO! *serious face*
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#68 TH1Sx1SxSPARTA
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considering the fact that these are pieces of plastic and not living organisms, no the 360 is not evovling, neither is the ps3
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Waiting for hermits to respond in 3,2,1....

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considering the fact that these are pieces of plastic and not living organisms, no the 360 is not evovling, neither is the ps3TH1Sx1SxSPARTA
Best damn comment I have read on system wars today, hat tipped.
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Silly boy, I'd recommend going back to school and taking Logic 101 as well as maybe Debate 101.

I'll give you a 6.5/10.

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Is this a joke? Whereas I'm not one to hate on the 360 (great console), it peaked graphically a couple of years ago. The PS3, on the other hand, only seems to be getting better. As far as graphics and power are concerned, I have a strong feeling that Xbox vs PS3 will turn out a lot like Genesis vs SNES. Guess which is which.charizard1605

nah a couple yrs ago 360 wasnt getting gears 3 graphics

i dont see the big upgrades from uncharted 2 tho so saying ps3 just keeps getting better ehh

resistance 3 actually looks pretty crappy imo

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#74 TH1Sx1SxSPARTA
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[QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"]considering the fact that these are pieces of plastic and not living organisms, no the 360 is not evovling, neither is the ps3skrat_01
Best damn comment I have read on system wars today, hat tipped.

YES! **fist pump**
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#75 hgjhgdfgbfdgfds
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xbox360 still has no fps that look better than killzone3.
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On paper PS3 is more powerful but in real-world performance both consoles are even. As powerful as the Cell is it's hampered by having less available RAM than the X360 and an inferior GPU. PS3 seemed to pull ahead of the X360 in graphics a couple of years ago and it was due to a few high-budget and graphically orientated games. The X360 started getting the graphically orientated stuff later down the road so that now both systems are neck and neck. Both systems have been maxed out in 2011, I don't expect things to noticeably improve next year.
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#77 hgjhgdfgbfdgfds
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killzone3 character models have eye lashes gears of war 3 has none or halo reach or crysis 2. I like when dev's add small details like that makes the graphics more polished.
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#78 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Thing is, it IS turning into that. Yes, the Genesis and SNES were both awesome. That is the point. However, the generation started with the Genesis having a clear technical advantage. Then over time, the Genesis peaked, while the SNES's superior power led it to establishing an immense lead over the Genesis as far as graphics and technical aspects were concerned. That is exactly what will happen this time- the Xbox is the Genesis, the PS3 is the SNES.charizard1605

The ps3 and 360 are completely even tech wise.

Sure, the 360 won't have anything to match UC2/Gow 3 until Gears 3 comes out, but when it does come out there will be no game that's more technically advanced on either system.

RAGE will be the most technically advaced game on both consoles, and that's a multiplat.

Actually, they're kind of not even. Firstly, as far as sheer RAM is concerned, the 360 wins resoundingly. 512MB of unified RAM wins over the PS3's crippled 256MB RAM + 256MB VRAM. Then again, the PS3's seven core asymmetrical Cell architecture IS more versatile and far more capable than the 360's architecture is. The PS3 IS more powerful than the Xbox 360, if only by very little. I agree with what you said about Rage, although I think that has more to do with skilled programming and developing skills (kind of like Rare's technical wizardry with Donkey Kong Country) than with power available to the developers.

Xbox 360's symmetrical PPE X3 architecture IS more versatile i.e. unlike SPEs, you don't have watch for unsupported VMX formats, instructions and elaborate program restructure with multi-core PPE. PS;SPE's ISA is based on VMX ISA.

IBM's latest PowerPC A2 follows Xbox 360's multi-core PPE idea i.e. scales from 4 to 16 cores.

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When it comes to 360 and PS3 I don't understand why anyone would think to themselves "there's no way teh graphix will get any better." I can only understand that thinking with Wii, because it is stuck in last generation graphics.

But other than Wii, people seem to forget that during a console lifecycle, the graphical quality continually gets better. Just when it is thought that there is a "peak" level, something else comes out that has even better graphics. This has always been the pattern, way back to Atari 2600 to now.

I'm sure lot people didn't think games like Rage and Skyrim would ever look this good on a console.

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law of diminishing returns dude. The HD twins have been out 5/6 years all the tricks, techniques and secrets have slowly been revealed in how to come up with the best looking visuals. In some cases this has been leading to obvious compromises (ie unappealing motion blur or inconsistent fame rates or reduced resolution et al). The margin of improvements has narrowed right down and in some cases the technical improvements are actually subjective, with older techniques of AA actually being better looking just more resource hogging. Short of a developer finding something out big then I'd say the systems were maxed out. Crytek seemed to think so.
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#80 ronvalencia
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if you care about grahics get a gaming pc.
also when ps3 was releasin great looking games xbox had still gears 2....

ioannisdenton

Epic was updating UE3 engine and they have do it for atleast 3 HD platforms i.e. PC, Xbox 360 and PS3.

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What games are continuing to evolve on the 360? As a matter of fact, what games has the 360 got this year other than multiplats? We all know why multiplats look better on the 360 most of the time and its not because of whats under the hood lol. I totally disagree with everything from the OP.
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#82 djsifer01
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xbox360 still has no fps that look better than killzone3.hgjhgdfgbfdgfds
This. The 360 still has no game period that looks as good as KZ3. Its not even a power issue between the two consoles. Its the fact Sony stomps MS into the ground in development talent.
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[QUOTE="Heil68"]Disneyland Adventures and Sesame Street are evolving? I would rather see it regress. PAL360

You surelly love to talk about kinect! You do know that there are like 600 non kinect games on 360, right??

Oh yeah? Can I go tot he store and buy one that's come out since Reach That's exclusive to the 360? I've been looking and looking and I can't seem to find one. :(
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"]Disneyland Adventures and Sesame Street are evolving? I would rather see it regress. Heil68

You surelly love to talk about kinect! You do know that there are like 600 non kinect games on 360, right??

Oh yeah? Can I go tot he store and buy one that's come out since Reach That's exclusive to the 360? I've been looking and looking and I can't seem to find one. :(

Why are you limiting yourself to games that have released this year :?

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Why does everyone want second place so bad :?

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Because the Wii is a joke?
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

You surelly love to talk about kinect! You do know that there are like 600 non kinect games on 360, right??

FoolwithaLancer

Oh yeah? Can I go tot he store and buy one that's come out since Reach That's exclusive to the 360? I've been looking and looking and I can't seem to find one. :(

Why are you limiting yourself to games that have released this year :?

I'm not. I actually went back to 2008 to find a game to play on the 360. Pretty sad.
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[QUOTE="FoolwithaLancer"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"] Oh yeah? Can I go tot he store and buy one that's come out since Reach That's exclusive to the 360? I've been looking and looking and I can't seem to find one. :( Heil68

Why are you limiting yourself to games that have released this year :?

I'm not. I actually went back to 2008 to find a game to play on the 360. Pretty sad.

Kind of like how I had to wait till mid 2008 to find a game I wanted to play on the PS3. Pretty sad.

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#88 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="FoolwithaLancer"]

Why are you limiting yourself to games that have released this year :?

FoolwithaLancer

I'm not. I actually went back to 2008 to find a game to play on the 360. Pretty sad.

Kind of like how I had to wait till mid 2008 to find a game I wanted to play on the PS3. Pretty sad.

Yup..thats why I waited to 2008 to buy a PS3. Little did I know the 360 game library would evaporate into thin air.
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[QUOTE="FoolwithaLancer"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"] I'm not. I actually went back to 2008 to find a game to play on the 360. Pretty sad. Heil68

Kind of like how I had to wait till mid 2008 to find a game I wanted to play on the PS3. Pretty sad.

Yup..thats why I waited to 2008 to buy a PS3. Little did I know the 360 game library would evaporate into thin air.

Couldn't the same be said for people who bought there Xbox 360 in 2010-2011? They have a great backlog to play now.

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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="FoolwithaLancer"]

Kind of like how I had to wait till mid 2008 to find a game I wanted to play on the PS3. Pretty sad.

FoolwithaLancer

Yup..thats why I waited to 2008 to buy a PS3. Little did I know the 360 game library would evaporate into thin air.

Couldn't the same be said for people who bought there Xbox 360 in 2010-2011? They have a great backlog to play now.

What about people who were early adapters and gave MS our hard earned money only to see our dreams and hopes dashed and our beloved system turn into the debacle it has become? lolowell, right? Too bad, we got your money, now suffer? Yeah, that sounds about right for MS.
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The 360 Vs PS3 war is not even interesting anymore. That's one of the reasons I don't even post here as much. Forza 4 looks incredible though :D
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[QUOTE="FoolwithaLancer"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"] Yup..thats why I waited to 2008 to buy a PS3. Little did I know the 360 game library would evaporate into thin air. Heil68

Couldn't the same be said for people who bought there Xbox 360 in 2010-2011? They have a great backlog to play now.

What about people who were early adapters and gave MS our hard earned money only to see our dreams and hopes dashed and our beloved system turn into the debacle it has become? lolowell, right? Too bad, we got your money, now suffer? Yeah, that sounds about right for MS.

What about the people who bought the PS3 in 2006? They got screwed 2 years straight.

What about the people who bought Move? They're getting extremely screwed right now.

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What games are continuing to evolve on the 360? As a matter of fact, what games has the 360 got this year other than multiplats? We all know why multiplats look better on the 360 most of the time and its not because of whats under the hood lol. I totally disagree with everything from the OP.djsifer01
FM4 and GEOW3 are not multiplats last time I checked.
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how does a 6 year old console evolve?
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Well, with Crysis 2, and now Gears 3, it really is showing that it has room to grow left. Uncharted 2 seems to have topped the PS3 out seeing as Uncharted 3 doesn't look vastly different. Could U3 be the next Gears 2?

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[QUOTE="djsifer01"]What games are continuing to evolve on the 360? As a matter of fact, what games has the 360 got this year other than multiplats? We all know why multiplats look better on the 360 most of the time and its not because of whats under the hood lol. I totally disagree with everything from the OP.racing1750
FM4 and GEOW3 are not multiplats last time I checked.

Those arent out yet. I love Forza, getting it day 1. i was talking about up to this point in time.
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#97 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="FoolwithaLancer"]

Couldn't the same be said for people who bought there Xbox 360 in 2010-2011? They have a great backlog to play now.

FoolwithaLancer

What about people who were early adapters and gave MS our hard earned money only to see our dreams and hopes dashed and our beloved system turn into the debacle it has become? lolowell, right? Too bad, we got your money, now suffer? Yeah, that sounds about right for MS.

What about the people who bought the PS3 in 2006? They got screwed 2 years straight.

What about the people who bought Move? There getting extremely screwed right now.

I hope the move fails and fails hard. I dont care about it and I"m not planning on buying it. I hope they discontinue it by years end so I never have to hear about it again. Serves them right trying to catch those casual dollars. Thank goodness they haven't jumped ship on exclusives like MS has.
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#98 racing1750
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[QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="djsifer01"]What games are continuing to evolve on the 360? As a matter of fact, what games has the 360 got this year other than multiplats? We all know why multiplats look better on the 360 most of the time and its not because of whats under the hood lol. I totally disagree with everything from the OP.djsifer01
FM4 and GEOW3 are not multiplats last time I checked.

Those arent out yet. I love Forza, getting it day 1. i was talking about up to this point in time.

Ok no worries.
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#99 Silverbond
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Why does everyone want second place so bad :?

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Because the Wii is a joke?

1. Sony and MS take the Wii quite seriously, actually.

2. He wasn't even talking about the Wii.

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[QUOTE="Heil68"] What about people who were early adapters and gave MS our hard earned money only to see our dreams and hopes dashed and our beloved system turn into the debacle it has become? lolowell, right? Too bad, we got your money, now suffer? Yeah, that sounds about right for MS. Heil68

What about the people who bought the PS3 in 2006? They got screwed 2 years straight.

What about the people who bought Move? There getting extremely screwed right now.

I hope the move fails and fails hard. I dont care about it and I"m not planning on buying it. I hope they discontinue it by years end so I never have to hear about it again. Serves them right trying to catch those casual dollars. Thank goodness they haven't jumped ship on exclusives like MS has.

There are 5 upcoming non Kinect 360 Exclusives plus an HD port you have to look forward too. Sorry if none interest you.