The 360 has no variety at all.

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#1 WarTornRuston
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Then explain this:

Platformers- Super Meat Boy, Fez, Bajo Kazooie, Rayman Origins, Splosion Man, Mrs S'plosion Man, Sonic 4, Trials,,,,yes Trials

Action- Shadow Complex, Bayonetta, Crackdown, Red Dead Redemption, Batman Arkum Series, Deus Ex, Splinter Cell Conviction, Alan Wake

Racing- Hydro Thunder, Sega Rally, Ridge Racer, Dirt Series, EA Racers, Project Gotham 3 and 4 (Everyone forgets this one), and the Forza series. Not to mention Burnout, Split/Second, and Blur.

RPG- Mass Effect, Skyrim, Lost Oddyssey, Fable, Fallout, not to mention all of those JRPG's that don't sale on any playform.

Shhoters- Battlefield, Call of Duty, Gears, Halo,Metro 2033, Left 4 Dead, Borderlands, Rage......This list could go on for a while

Puzzle games- XBLA is full of them as well as those little fortress games I hate. Portal 2?

Clasics and remakes- Tons of them on XBLA- Microsoft does not feel the need to re=release them to minimal sales after spending a year and a half of wasted money converting them to 720p.

Fighting games- Dead or Alive 4, Capcom fighters, Mortal Kombat, not to mention a ton on XBL.

I swear Shadowmoses gets dumber every day. Now do they have the first party variety? Not as many games of course but it is a business choice and one that obviously worked.

Plus they have Kinect- The one thing that is hated by all but put the nail in the PS3 coffin.....ha ha ha.....

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#2 Blabadon
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You're letting SW get to you.

Enjoy your games instead of arguing with idiots, it's much more fun. :D

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Come on dude, you are just as bad as the ones you are trying to prove wrong. :| Dont let shadowmoses win :P
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#4 Ravensmash
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Anyone who seriously thinks the console doesn't have variety (or any system for that matter) has probably spent too much time using SW as a gaming guide. Be prepared for such solid arguments such as; "but they're not all exclusive!" or the ever delightful "[shooting game] is top seller!!!"
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LOL pretty much only multiplats.

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The multiplats provide variety. If you want to look at 1st part titles, that may be a different story.

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#7 devilsoultaker2
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C'mon now don't be silly teh 360 got no games
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#8 Gue1
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That "variety" is on the PS3 as well. :roll:

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#9 Ravensmash
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That "variety" is on the PS3 as well. :roll:

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Yes, but people here struggle to comprehend that both consoles have large and varied libraries 7 years into the gen.
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#10 tonitorsi
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Multiplats? Again?

You see, this is why people say they have no games,

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#11 casharmy
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[QUOTE="Gue1"]

That "variety" is on the PS3 as well. :roll:

Ravensmash

Yes, but people here struggle to comprehend that both consoles have large and varied libraries 7 years into the gen.

7 years...hmm ok

so what would you say were the 7 best games on xbox360?

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="Gue1"]

That "variety" is on the PS3 as well. :roll:

casharmy

Yes, but people here struggle to comprehend that both consoles have large and varied libraries 7 years into the gen.

7 years...hmm ok

so what would you say were the 7 best games on xbox360?

Halo 3 Gears of War 1 + 3 Forza 4 Halo Reach Super Meat Boy Arkham Asylum Trials Evolution Alan Wake Although honestly, those are just games I've really enjoyed this gen, are not in any order and would probably change with a new post.
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="Gue1"]

That "variety" is on the PS3 as well. :roll:

casharmy

Yes, but people here struggle to comprehend that both consoles have large and varied libraries 7 years into the gen.

7 years...hmm ok

so what would you say were the 7 best games on xbox360?

Well, That would be opinion but mine are: Bioshock Rayman Origins Halo Reach Uncharted 2 Dirt 3 Batman AC and Mortal Kombat. Red Dead Redemption and Mass Effect 2 should get mentioned as well. So it is multiplats for the most part. I have a PS3 and I bet I play 360 exclusives more than the PS3 exclusives. That is the truth.

As for 360 exclusives?

Halo Reach

Forza 4

PGR4

Kameo

Alan Wake

Fable 2

Trials hd

Fez and Gears 3 gets a mention. Again, Decent Variety.

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#14 LovePotionNo9
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Sure got some nice racing games, but I get my fix on the PC. But I wouldn't complain if Forza came to PC. I mainly would want Shadow Complex and Lost Odyssey. But it's not enough to buy my own system. Got access to a 360, so it's good enough. Would also be nice if Dead or Alive 4 was on PC. That's why next Xbox needs to be 360 compatible; got to get those few 360 exclusives that look fun, as few as they are.
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#15 casharmy
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[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Yes, but people here struggle to comprehend that both consoles have large and varied libraries 7 years into the gen.WarTornRuston

7 years...hmm ok

so what would you say were the 7 best games on xbox360?

Well, That would be opinion but mine are: Bioshock Rayman Origins Halo Reach Uncharted 2 Dirt 3 Batman AC and Mortal Kombat. Red Dead Redemption and Mass Effect 2 should get mentioned as well. So it is multiplats for the most part. I have a PS3 and I bet I play 360 exclusives more than the PS3 exclusives. That is the truth.

As for 360 exclusives?

Halo Reach (xbox's biggest go to franchise AAA)

Forza 4 (quality racer AA GS) (AAA on MC)

PGR4 (good racer AA)

Kameo (decent plaformer AA)

Alan Wake (good action game AA)

Fable 2 (good RPG AA)

Trials hd (good downloadable game AA)

Fez and Gears 3 gets a mention. Again, Decent Variety.

I am not trying to rag on 360 or anything but look at your list.

the other poster said himself that the 360 has been on the market for 7 years...and that's NOT all consoles PS3/wii came a year later. Now Look at your list?

Now if you ask a PS3 fan to list the 7 best games in the 6 years it's been on the market I bet they would be able to give you a more impressive list and all retail exclusives, and yep sheep would be able to give a better line up of exclusive wii games as well.

I'm not saying the 360 has no games, what I am saying is that just because 360 has lot of games (more then the other consoles) it does not mean they are more impressive.

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Wait what? This discussion is about variety, and you're now throwing around subjective criteria like things sounding impressive? And now talking about GS scores as well? You're strolling off topic.
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First Party titles lack variety because there isn't much to begin with when you compare the amount to Nintendo or Sony first parties. Overall the library has variety though.
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#18 xOMGITSJASONx
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How can any console this gen NOT have variety. That should havebeen your question

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#19 ydnarrewop
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Nothing wrong with the box.
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Of course the 360 has variety in its overall library of games. System Wars is about exclusives though and the 360 is sorely lacking in that area.
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Of course the 360 has variety in its overall library of games. System Wars is about exclusives though and the 360 is sorely lacking in that area.FlamesOfGrey
No it's not. Doesn't it have the largest exclusive library out of the main three? (possibly not the Wii, unsure)
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[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Yes, but people here struggle to comprehend that both consoles have large and varied libraries 7 years into the gen.Ravensmash

7 years...hmm ok

so what would you say were the 7 best games on xbox360?

Halo 3 (xbox biggest go to franchise FPS AAA)

Gears of War 1 + 3 (quality AAA 3rd person shooter)

Forza 4 (quality racer AA) (AAA MC)

Halo Reach (xbox biggest go to francise FPS AAA)

Super Meat Boy (quality AAA multplatform downloadable game)

Arkham Asylum(qualty AAA multiplatform action game)

Trials Evolution (good AA downloadable XBLA game)

Alan Wake ( good AA multiplatform action game)

Although

honestly, those are just games I've really enjoyed this gen, are not in any order and would probably change with a new post.

Repost same logic applies to what I posted to the other guy:

The 360 has been on the market for 7 years...and that's NOT all consoles since pS3/wii came a year later. Look at your list?

Now if you ask a PS3 fan to list the 7 best game in the 6 years it's been on the market I bet they would be able to give you a more impressive list and all exclusvie, and yep sheep would be able to give a better line up of exclusive wii games as well.

I'm not saying the 360 has no games, what I am saying is just because 360 has lot of games (more then the other consoles) it does not mean they are more impressive.

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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"]Of course the 360 has variety in its overall library of games. System Wars is about exclusives though and the 360 is sorely lacking in that area.Ravensmash
No it's not. Doesn't it have the largest exclusive library out of the main three? (possibly not the Wii, unsure)

Only if you include low scoring ones.
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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"]Of course the 360 has variety in its overall library of games. System Wars is about exclusives though and the 360 is sorely lacking in that area.Ravensmash
No it's not. Doesn't it have the largest exclusive library out of the main three? (possibly not the Wii, unsure)

Does it? The 360 is lacking in its exclusive variety especially in the pass couple of years.

Also, do you want to count shovelware and low scoring exclusives as well?

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You asked me what my favourite games on xbox 360 were and I told you. I didn't nitpick, I just laid out 7/8 titles off the top of my head that impressed me. There is no logic to what you're saying. I'm sure a PS3 fan (although I'm unsure of why that term is being used to exclude me) could come up with a more impressive sounding list, or a Wii gamer, or a PC gamer, or a fellow 360 gamer too.
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#26 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"]Of course the 360 has variety in its overall library of games. System Wars is about exclusives though and the 360 is sorely lacking in that area.themajormayor
No it's not. Doesn't it have the largest exclusive library out of the main three? (possibly not the Wii, unsure)

Only if you include low scoring ones.

Oh, we got to use the specific criteria in SW, how silly of me to forget. If a statement goes against your agenda, turn to scores or sales!
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"] No it's not. Doesn't it have the largest exclusive library out of the main three? (possibly not the Wii, unsure)Ravensmash
Only if you include low scoring ones.

Oh, we got to use the specific criteria in SW, how silly of me to forget. If a statement goes against your agenda, turn to scores or sales!

Okay, if you want to count shovelware and such then I would guess the Wii wins and the 360 comes in second with PS3 third.
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"] No it's not. Doesn't it have the largest exclusive library out of the main three? (possibly not the Wii, unsure)Ravensmash
Only if you include low scoring ones.

Oh, we got to use the specific criteria in SW, how silly of me to forget. If a statement goes against your agenda, turn to scores or sales!

Yeah it's the metagame rules. But I don't know, I guess for lems 'Game Party: In Motion'is like the second coming

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] Only if you include low scoring ones. FlamesOfGrey
Oh, we got to use the specific criteria in SW, how silly of me to forget. If a statement goes against your agenda, turn to scores or sales!

Okay, if you want to count shovelware and such then I would guess the Wii wins and the 360 comes in second with PS3 third.

Sure thing.
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#30 freedomfreak
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360 does have variety.

"it only does shooters" is like most phrases used in this place,hyperbole.

And moronic.

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You asked me what my favourite games on xbox 360 were and I told you. I didn't nitpick, I just laid out 7/8 titles off the top of my head that impressed me. There is no logic to what you're saying. I'm sure a PS3 fan (although I'm unsure of why that term is being used to exclude me) could come up with a more impressive sounding list, or a Wii gamer, or a PC gamer, or a fellow 360 gamer too.Ravensmash

That's just it, They really couldn't (check someone already did) and I already knew that because I am aware of the 360 library. I do not konw why a 360 fan would get mad at anyone saying the 360 doesn't have any varitety when it's more or less the case.

Yes 360 has multiplatform games that is well established, but no one NEEDS a 360 for multiplats. 360's variety isn't added up by how many games that it has which can also be found elsewhere, it's added up by what sets it apart I.E. exclusives and furthermore quality games that stand out and are worthy of attention.

When you talk about the great games that set each system apart, the top 2 games mentioned are Gears and Halo, after that it's Forza, then people just fish around to fill in what ever is there because there really aren't any other high quality games to nominate.

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]You asked me what my favourite games on xbox 360 were and I told you. I didn't nitpick, I just laid out 7/8 titles off the top of my head that impressed me. There is no logic to what you're saying. I'm sure a PS3 fan (although I'm unsure of why that term is being used to exclude me) could come up with a more impressive sounding list, or a Wii gamer, or a PC gamer, or a fellow 360 gamer too.casharmy

That's just it, They really couldn't (check someone already did) and I already knew that because I am aware of the 360 library. I do not konw why a 360 fan would get mad at anyone saying the 360 doesn't have any varitety when it's more or less the case.

Yes 360 has multiplatform games that is well established, but no one NEEDS a 360 for multiplats. 360's variety isn't added up by how many games that it has which can also be found elsewhere, it's added up by what sets it apart I.E. exclusives and furthermore quality games that stand out and are worthy of attention.

When you talk about the great games that set each system apart, the top 2 games mentioned are Gears and Halo, after that it's Forza, then people just fish around to fill in what ever is there because there really aren't any other high quality games to nominate.

Gears, Halo and Forza are three very popular IPs that MS use to essentially sell consoles, alongside being recognised as very good games in their respective genres overall, regardless of exclusivity - I'm not sure why it's surprising why they're brought up all the time. You've asked a few posters in this thread, and that's the backbone of your argument? 360 has as much variety as any other system, and equally 'impressive' sounding games depending on subjectivity.
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Does this mean I win? :cool: :P

If so let's rejoice!

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I think we can all agree on that! Mmm...rejoice indeed!

No hard feelings man, don't get mad about other thread. Besides you guys already won it anyway. I admitted I was wrong.

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[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]You asked me what my favourite games on xbox 360 were and I told you. I didn't nitpick, I just laid out 7/8 titles off the top of my head that impressed me. There is no logic to what you're saying. I'm sure a PS3 fan (although I'm unsure of why that term is being used to exclude me) could come up with a more impressive sounding list, or a Wii gamer, or a PC gamer, or a fellow 360 gamer too.Ravensmash

That's just it, They really couldn't (check someone already did) and I already knew that because I am aware of the 360 library. I do not konw why a 360 fan would get mad at anyone saying the 360 doesn't have any varitety when it's more or less the case.

Yes 360 has multiplatform games that is well established, but no one NEEDS a 360 for multiplats. 360's variety isn't added up by how many games that it has which can also be found elsewhere, it's added up by what sets it apart I.E. exclusives and furthermore quality games that stand out and are worthy of attention.

When you talk about the great games that set each system apart, the top 2 games mentioned are Gears and Halo, after that it's Forza, then people just fish around to fill in what ever is there because there really aren't any other high quality games to nominate.

Gears, Halo and Forza are three very popular IPs that MS use to essentially sell consoles, alongside being recognised as very good games in their respective genres overall, regardless of exclusivity - I'm not sure why it's surprising why they're brought up all the time. You've asked a few posters in this thread, and that's the backbone of your argument? 360 has as much variety as any other system, and equally 'impressive' sounding games depending on subjectivity.

actually I've only asked one question to see if my theory was correct or not.

also:

I can name games on bothwiiand PS3 that prove that bold statement wrong based on critical profession reception. Youkonwhow we have evaluated games all generation long, this isn't anything new, when it comes to debates critical reception >>>> personal opinion

let me put it like this, you make the argument that 360 has the best overall library based on having the most high scoring library do you not? Then what is this "subjectivity" you speak of? it would be hypocritical to try to evaluate what we are talking about based on something different than what you already tried to use to prove your original point. It seems you are also go by critical reception (majority journalist opinions, reviews,scores and praise from professionalgamesites) from the beginning.

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exclusives dude, exclusives
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#37 Ninja-Hippo
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You're letting SW get to you.

Enjoy your games instead of arguing with idiots, it's much more fun. :D

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What this guy said. Ignore the bogus arguments, don't engage in them.
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If you enjoy them then just play them. Who cares what others think. Sometimes I think gaming would be better off if we didn't have forums to get into people's heads

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#39 WarTornRuston
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Luckily I am white enough to own all 3 consoles. However......

I am wondering if the 360's same exclusives get mentioned by Lems because the games are just really high quality products that appeal to everyone with the 360? Obviously Halo built the original XBOX and the 360 gamer probably bought the 360 just for that series. Obviously they have kept the quality high (Regardless of what anyone who hates Halo says) and that is why it is always the first or second game listed.

Gears in basicall this gen's Halo for the XBOX gamer. Obviously it did not reach Halo's level but it was still (At the time) fresh and grgeous, and everyone with a 360 wanted it.

Fable and Forxa are the other main ones and there is a reason for it. The first 2 Fables were great and Forza has really became the top console racer on the market. I have that and had GT5 and it is not even close. The premium cars in GT5 look a bit better but everything else from the gameplay, structure, online, enviroments- Forza beats it hands down.

I listed PGR and Kameo because I loved the series. I did not have Gears listed in my top 7 because I like....Variety.

Now- On the PS3. I have 21 games right now plus PS + and I will provide a pic if needed. I mainly play multiplats on it and a few days ago I was fussing because I could not find a full game or game at all in MAG, Starhawk, Twisted Metal, or Killzone 2.

The PS3 has more exclusives and more variety but the games have smaller communities for the most part. I think you are saying a PS3 list would have more variety from person to person but I think it is because the PS3 does not have those must have games for the masses. I like Sly Cooper. Most people like Ratchet and Clank. I prefer Heavenly Sword over God of War and Resistance over Killzone. But the problem is none of the 12 PS3 exclusives I own with the exception of Uncharted 2 are better than the 360's top 5.

Eveyone is different I guess. But for someone like me who only likes certain game types the 360 has the games I am looking for. I do not care about Mod Nation Racers, God of War, Ico, Genji, Little Big Planet......So to me, The PS3 does not have the better games in the genres I like.

This forum does not get that concept at all.

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Resistance 1, 2, 3

Killzone 2, 3 [probably 4 before end of gen]

Uncharted 1, 2, 3

Warhawk 1, 2

MAG

SOCOM

etc

Shooter console confirmed

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#41 arkephonic
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But does it have *gasp* Uncharted??

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#42 princeofshapeir
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But does it have *gasp* Uncharted??

arkephonic
You can watch movies on your 360, sure.
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#43 WarTornRuston
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But does it have *gasp* Uncharted??

arkephonic
Yep. it is listed in my top 7 games this gen but it is still just a good looking Tomb Raider clone with ho-hum shooting mechanics. What is your point?
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#44 arkephonic
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But the problem is none of the 12 PS3 exclusives I own with the exception of Uncharted 2 are better than the 360's top 5.WarTornRuston

What are the top 5 Xbox 360 exclusives?

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#45 Blabadon
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[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

But does it have *gasp* Uncharted??

WarTornRuston
Yep. it is listed in my top 7 games this gen but it is still just a good looking Tomb Raider clone with ho-hum shooting mechanics. What is your point?

Tomb Raider clone? So you're just making this thread for the sh!tstorm? Nice.
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#46 WarTornRuston
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[QUOTE="WarTornRuston"]But the problem is none of the 12 PS3 exclusives I own with the exception of Uncharted 2 are better than the 360's top 5.arkephonic

What are the top 5 Xbox 360 exclusives?

Do I look like Domino's to you? Look it up. I have them listed on page 1. But my list will be different from others so my list is irrelevant.
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#47 WarTornRuston
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[QUOTE="WarTornRuston"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

But does it have *gasp* Uncharted??

Blabadon
Yep. it is listed in my top 7 games this gen but it is still just a good looking Tomb Raider clone with ho-hum shooting mechanics. What is your point?

Tomb Raider clone? So you're just making this thread for the sh!tstorm? Nice.

Well since I can play the Tomb Raider clone any time I want and have beat all 3 I think I have a right to call it what everyone else was calling it when the first one was released. Dude Raider.....That is what it is. If you don't like it than so be it but it does not make it untrue.
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#48 arkephonic
Member since 2006 • 7221 Posts

As for 360 exclusives?

Halo Reach

Forza 4

PGR4

Kameo

Alan Wake

WarTornRuston

First of all, Alan Wake isn't exclusive. Secondly, Kameo is a solid game, but that was a 360 launch title, and it is painfully obvious that it is a 6 year old game. I own it and have played it, it is good but top 5? Lol.....

2 car racing games in your top 5? :lol:

I can't believe this is your list, and you say nothing on PS3 can touch it. This is straight up laughable. I can't tell if you're joking or not.

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Sony has so many exclusives because they are scrambling to find something that actually sells. Gran Turismo games only come out once a decade now and MGS is no longer exclusive so they are desperate for a system seller like Halo and Gears. Hell even Fable outsells most PS3 exclusives and those games are pretty bad.
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#50 arkephonic
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Nothing on PS3 can touch the 2 car racing games, the past their prime Rare launch title that sits at a generous 80% on Gamerankings.

Halo Reach is excellent, I'll give you that.