The 360 is objectively the worst console from the past gen.

How is this even a question? It's, ultimately the most expensive connsole to own, has a library filled with multiplats and few worthy exclusives, it breaks easily, and it introduced some of the worst trends from the generation (such as monthly fees). 

PS this is coming from someone who owns a Wii and 360. But the only reason I do is because my friend gave it to me for sixty bucks.

K.

you spelled subjectively wrong.

2nd largest library ( Wii is 1st) and best scoring library. When the list of exclusive scores ended on here the 360 and PS3 only differed with around 4 games but the 360 has around 200 more games then the PS3. Not only the highest scoring liubrary but also had the most entertainment apps.

It had a bigger library than the PS3 and Wii and had almost exactly the same number of exclusives as the PS3. Price is completely dependent on the individual user. Certainly the early models of the 360 were a mess, but the later ones were much more reliable. It had the best online by a mile for most of the gen, until basically Sony copied everything on XBL, plus it didn't have a giant outage after comprising info .... Hardly objectively the worst console, but since when have the herd on SW been objective?blue_hazy_basic

So you're okay with paying fifty bucks a month for something that should be free?

you spelled subjectively wrong.

CaseyWegner

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]It had a bigger library than the PS3 and Wii and had almost exactly the same number of exclusives as the PS3. Price is completely dependent on the individual user. Certainly the early models of the 360 were a mess, but the later ones were much more reliable. It had the best online by a mile for most of the gen, until basically Sony copied everything on XBL, plus it didn't have a giant outage after comprising info .... Hardly objectively the worst console, but since when have the herd on SW been objective?turtlethetaffer

So you're okay with paying fifty bucks a month for something that should be free?

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]It had a bigger library than the PS3 and Wii and had almost exactly the same number of exclusives as the PS3. Price is completely dependent on the individual user. Certainly the early models of the 360 were a mess, but the later ones were much more reliable. It had the best online by a mile for most of the gen, until basically Sony copied everything on XBL, plus it didn't have a giant outage after comprising info .... Hardly objectively the worst console, but since when have the herd on SW been objective?turtlethetaffer

So you're okay with paying fifty bucks a month for something that should be free?

50 bucks a month? :|

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]It had a bigger library than the PS3 and Wii and had almost exactly the same number of exclusives as the PS3. Price is completely dependent on the individual user. Certainly the early models of the 360 were a mess, but the later ones were much more reliable. It had the best online by a mile for most of the gen, until basically Sony copied everything on XBL, plus it didn't have a giant outage after comprising info .... Hardly objectively the worst console, but since when have the herd on SW been objective?turtlethetaffer

So you're okay with paying fifty bucks a month for something that should be free?

It is hard to say which was the weakest this gen for me. It is between the Wii and 360. Wii had like 2 more games I cared to play, but it's hardware is shit as is it's controller. The 360 only has two games and unreliable hardware and charges for what everybody else gives for free. PS3 was the only option I had this gen.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]It had a bigger library than the PS3 and Wii and had almost exactly the same number of exclusives as the PS3. Price is completely dependent on the individual user. Certainly the early models of the 360 were a mess, but the later ones were much more reliable. It had the best online by a mile for most of the gen, until basically Sony copied everything on XBL, plus it didn't have a giant outage after comprising info .... Hardly objectively the worst console, but since when have the herd on SW been objective?CaseyWegner

So you're okay with paying fifty bucks a month for something that should be free?

50 bucks a month? :|

My mistake, it was a typo, sorry.

Stil. Wanna pay for something that should be free??

can't really argue with facts, and you forgot to mention that it's nothing but an online fee collector for multiplatform games now.  

How it must suckk to be a xbox  fan and have to pay extra just in order to play the full content of mutiplats but have no more exclusives to look forward to.  With how MS has abandon the system now, defenders of XBL look even more stupid paying MS for nothing.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]It had a bigger library than the PS3 and Wii and had almost exactly the same number of exclusives as the PS3. Price is completely dependent on the individual user. Certainly the early models of the 360 were a mess, but the later ones were much more reliable. It had the best online by a mile for most of the gen, until basically Sony copied everything on XBL, plus it didn't have a giant outage after comprising info .... Hardly objectively the worst console, but since when have the herd on SW been objective?blue_hazy_basic

So you're okay with paying fifty bucks a month for something that should be free?

can't really argue with facts, and you forgot to mention that it's nothing but an online fee collector for multiplatform games now.  

How it must suckk to be a xbox  fan and have to pay extra just in order to play the full content of mutiplats but have no more exclusives to look forward to really justify it over other systems.  With how MS has abandon the system now defenders of XBL look even more stupid paying MS for nothing.

casharmy

Even though I'm pretty sure you're a well known troll, I actually agree with what you said here.

Okay.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

So you're okay with paying fifty bucks a month for something that should be free?

turtlethetaffer

50 bucks a month? :|

My mistake, it was a typo, sorry.

Stil. Wanna pay for something that should be free??

360 has Forza. Which is pretty much better than most of the PS3 library by itself. But then there's PGR 4, Gears, Halo, Trials Evolution.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

So you're okay with paying fifty bucks a month for something that should be free?

turtlethetaffer

50 bucks a month? :|

My mistake, it was a typo, sorry.

Stil. Wanna pay for something that should be free??

no. there's just no choice.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]It had a bigger library than the PS3 and Wii and had almost exactly the same number of exclusives as the PS3. Price is completely dependent on the individual user. Certainly the early models of the 360 were a mess, but the later ones were much more reliable. It had the best online by a mile for most of the gen, until basically Sony copied everything on XBL, plus it didn't have a giant outage after comprising info .... Hardly objectively the worst console, but since when have the herd on SW been objective?blue_hazy_basic

So you're okay with paying fifty bucks a month for something that should be free?

it's $60 dollars...so yeah he was misguided.  He was $10 short :o

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

can't really argue with facts, and you forgot to mention that it's nothing but an online fee collector for multiplatform games now.  

How it must suckk to be a xbox  fan and have to pay extra just in order to play the full content of mutiplats but have no more exclusives to look forward to really justify it over other systems.  With how MS has abandon the system now defenders of XBL look even more stupid paying MS for nothing.

turtlethetaffer

Even though I'm pretty sure you're a well known troll, I actually agree with what you said here.

He isnt a troll.  He believes every word of the drivel he types.  

So basically the reason you think it is the worst console ever is because of the xbl fee?CanYouDiglt

Did you read the OP?

[This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]Sweenix

[QUOTE="Sweenix"][This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]blue_hazy_basic

u suck! i hope a cat scratches your eyes out!! :evil:

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

So you're okay with paying fifty bucks a month for something that should be free?

casharmy

it's $60 dollars...so yeah he was misguided.  He was $10 short :o

still wrong. :|

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]So basically the reason you think it is the worst console ever is because of the xbl fee?turtlethetaffer

Did you read the OP?

360 has Forza. Which is pretty much better than most of the PS3 library by itself. But then there's PGR 4, Gears, Halo, Trials Evolution.

speedfreak48t5p

let's remeber PS3 has 3 exclusve GOTY winners this gen > other games you try to hold as some kind of arguement against PS3's library

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Sweenix"][This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]Sweenix

u suck! i hope a cat scratches your eyes out!! :evil:

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

can't really argue with facts, and you forgot to mention that it's nothing but an online fee collector for multiplatform games now.  

How it must suckk to be a xbox  fan and have to pay extra just in order to play the full content of mutiplats but have no more exclusives to look forward to really justify it over other systems.  With how MS has abandon the system now defenders of XBL look even more stupid paying MS for nothing.

StrongDeadlift

Even though I'm pretty sure you're a well known troll, I actually agree with what you said here.

He isnt a troll.  He believes every word of the drivel he types.  

[QUOTE="Sweenix"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] lol but no! :Pblue_hazy_basic

u suck! i hope a cat scratches your eyes out!! :evil:

poooop :?

I would put it barley ahead of the Wii. Could of been so much more, but after 2009 it just tanked. Heil68

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Not everyone did (most didn't as it happens) and I think you're incredibly misguided on how much XBL costs :lol:CaseyWegner

it's $60 dollars...so yeah he was misguided.  He was $10 short :o

still wrong. :|

I would put it barley ahead of the Wii. Could of been so much more, but after 2009 it just tanked. Heil68

[QUOTE="Heil68"]I would put it barley ahead of the Wii. Could of been so much more, but after 2009 it just tanked. blue_hazy_basic

[QUOTE="Heil68"]I would put it barley ahead of the Wii. Could of been so much more, but after 2009 it just tanked. blue_hazy_basic

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]So basically the reason you think it is the worst console ever is because of the xbl fee?CanYouDiglt

Did you read the OP?

How many of these "exclusives" that makes the system "beat out" the PS3 are Kinect games? Just wondering, because ATM I can only think of a few games that were exclusive to the 360.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Heil68"]I would put it barley ahead of the Wii. Could of been so much more, but after 2009 it just tanked. Heil68

It had a bigger library than the PS3 and Wii and had almost exactly the same number of exclusives as the PS3.
Price is completely dependent on the individual user.
Certainly the early models of the 360 were a mess, but the later ones were much more reliable.
It had the best online by a mile for most of the gen, until basically Sony copied everything on XBL, plus it didn't have a giant outage after comprising info ....
Hardly objectively the worst console, but since when have the herd on SW been objective?blue_hazy_basic

This should have ended the argument right here :P

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]It had a bigger library than the PS3 and Wii and had almost exactly the same number of exclusives as the PS3. Price is completely dependent on the individual user. Certainly the early models of the 360 were a mess, but the later ones were much more reliable. It had the best online by a mile for most of the gen, until basically Sony copied everything on XBL, plus it didn't have a giant outage after comprising info .... Hardly objectively the worst console, but since when have the herd on SW been objective?turtlethetaffer

So you're okay with paying fifty bucks a month for something that should be free?

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

It had a bigger library than the PS3 and Wii and had almost exactly the same number of exclusives as the PS3.
Price is completely dependent on the individual user.
Certainly the early models of the 360 were a mess, but the later ones were much more reliable.
It had the best online by a mile for most of the gen, until basically Sony copied everything on XBL, plus it didn't have a giant outage after comprising info ....
Hardly objectively the worst console, but since when have the herd on SW been objective?AdobeArtist

This should have ended the argument right here :P

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

It had a bigger library than the PS3 and Wii and had almost exactly the same number of exclusives as the PS3.
Price is completely dependent on the individual user.
Certainly the early models of the 360 were a mess, but the later ones were much more reliable.
It had the best online by a mile for most of the gen, until basically Sony copied everything on XBL, plus it didn't have a giant outage after comprising info ....
Hardly objectively the worst console, but since when have the herd on SW been objective?blue_hazy_basic

This should have ended the argument right here :P

You're a proficient mechanic ;)